right now. and welcome. oh, yeah, longwood university, in virginia the site of the vice presidential debate. we have eric trump coming up. kellyanne from the trump campaign, campaign manager and so much more first. he hasn't been on the program in five, tense years? >> you've been afraid to let me on. >> that's not true. how you doing, reverend jackson? >> great. i thought it was an exciting debate tonight. i thought kaine brought lots of energy and lots of preparation. >> don't think he interrupted too much? >> well, he was exuberant much the way trump uses it as a style. his content was there and i thought he did -- number two, he defended hillary. i thought pence did not defend

trump. he left his back uncovered. he was accused of -- >> i disagree. let me ask you this, do you think -- >> well, trump, he accused him of not paying his taxes, he didn't try to defend it. when you accused him of investing in russia, he didn't defend it, or his attack on the mexicans, he didn't defend it. >> let me ask you a question, would you pay more in taxes than you are supposed to? >> well, not necessarily. >> no, you would take every legal deduction like trump does and, by the way, like hillary clinton did. in 2015 she deducted $700,000. >> that's an unjust law. >> that's an unjust law that hillary followed? >> no, the law of trump not paying taxes in 20 years. >> he paid hundreds of millions in taxes. >> we don't know that. >> we do know it. he released a financial statement. >> we don't know what he invested in, who invested in him, we don't know. i think you should put the clinton foundation, the trump foundation side by side, tax returns side by side and make a

judgment. right now without the -- >> don't you think it is corrupt for hillary clinton to take money as secretary of state, isn't it a conflict of interest, and take money for the clinton foundation at the same time? >> she didn't. there's no evidence she did. that's an accusation. >> the ap said 55% of the people she let in to see her as secretary of state, individuals, 55% donate todd clinton foundation. >> there's no evidence in those meetings she broke any ethical standard, and the clinton foundation has a ve high acceptable record. trump's foundation is under strong legal suspicion because it did not invest in the people. >> let me ask you this. hillary clinton says that she cares about women and that she cares about guys and lesbians and she believes in religious freedom. she took with her husband for the clinton foundation nearly $25 million from saudi arabia, a country where women can't drive, women are told how to dress,

they're told whether they can go to school or work. she took another 10 million for the clinton library, and they kill guys and lesbians for being guy and lesbians and persecute christians and jews. you're a reverend. my question is would you take money from a country that kills guys, lesbians, persecutes christians and jews? >> that problem with a number of other countries -- >> i'm asking if you would take money from that country? >> i wouldn't be inclined. >> so it is wrong what she did. >> she didn't take the money. >> the clinton foundation and library did. >> the relationship with saudi arabia, i think -- >> isn't it immoral if you take money from a country that treats women like third class citizens, and kills guys and lesbians. >> these african-americans in history, that's not the way the world works, hannity.

>> let me ask about the economy and then we'll move on. since obama's been president, we now have 12 million more americans on food stamps, 8 million more americans in poverty. we have the lowest labor participation since the '70s, the worst recovery since the '40s, 51-year low of homeownership rate, and for black americans 58% of black americans since obama has been president on food stamp it, 20% increase of black americans out of the labor force. can you argue in any way, give me any statistics that shows that black americans are better off having had obama as president? >> well, he came in office with 800,000 job loss that month, and that job negative for seven years is unfinished business. had there not been such resistance, for example affordable healthcare. >> wait, wait, affordable healthcare you promise to keep your doctor, your plan and save $2500 a year. families saw a $4,100 increase in the last eight year. >> it can be modified with

people that have healthcare who never had it before, insured who were never insured before. >> but the promise wasn't kept. >> but the resistance was unestimated. the resistance to his presidency, the head wind has been an atrocious one. there was no attempt, for example, he put forth a campaign for fast rail, we could make the sail, make it less dependent on foreign oil and it was killed. >> you didn't answer my question. can you name one economic statistic i told you since obama, he's had eight years, reverend. 60% increase of black americans on food stamps, nearly two to one higher unemployment rate in the black community. can you name one statistic black americans are better off under eight years of obama, america's first black president. >> blacks are in positions they were never in before. more than that, sean, what i'm concerned about is that the banks with sub prime lending

schemes got bailed out. >> i agree with you here. >> people got locked out. >> i agree with you here. >> got reconstruction. >> but you can't give me one statistic? >> i can't right now. >> you're going to come back on my show. why do you avoid me? we call, we say, reverend jackson, come on the program. >> you avoid me. >> you really believe that? >> i'm not afraid of you, hannity? >> are you sure? say it for the audience. >> i'm not afraid of anything. i'm ready to take him off. >> reverend, god bless you. good to see you it earlier in the spin room right after the debate we talked to eric trump and here is part of that interview. eric trump. tell us of the debate. >> he did a great job, mike pence did an amazing job and reinforced the reason my father picked him for a running mate. he was poised, articulate, strong and smart. i was proud of him sitting there. the amount of comments we have gotten about how great he was tonight, it was an unbelievable debate. >> one thing that was similar in

the first debate with your dad and hillary clinton, in this debate they've got their list of talking points and going to get them in no matter what. mike pence seemed to stand back and say, you're running a negative campaign, let's stay on question. >> not talking about hillary's 35-year record but only talking about my father. they keep mentioning russia which i thought was ironic, yet bill clinton was giving speeches in russia many, many times, getting $500,000 and a million dollars to give a speech. you look at the russian nuclear deal with $145 million was paid to the clinton foundation from russia after the u.s. gave 20% of its uranium stom pile to the country. i find it so ironic they kept bringing up that topic. >> i thought we got to more substance, we talked about immigration, vetting refugees, we talked about the iranian deal, we talked about the creation of isis by the united states pulling out of iraq and syria in particular. is substance better for the campaign?

>> i think it is because their track record was horrible. look at what happened in iraq. look what happened in syria. look what happened in libya. it is not just that those countries are totally disstabilized and a total mess and isis is running rampant, the u.s. spent $6 trillion fighting wars that haven't worked and we're in a worse spot than we were before. we have lost thousands and thousands of troops and that was something never mentioned before, and it is actually very, very sad. the middle east is a hornet's nest because of failed foreign policy. russia and the reset button was a total disaster which led to so many of the situations we see over there. we haven't exerted power as a nation and it is very, very sad. we need tough leadership and you saw it from the governor tonight. >> i think this is really more than any other election in our lifetime, maybe kartdcarter and reagan, it is a choice election, if you look at saying radical islam, supreme court, they didn't get to it tonight, building a wall, not building a wall, vetting refugees or not,

obama care, replacing, repealing, keeping it or doubling down on it. there are substantive basis. i feel on the left they try to muddy the waters. do you think that choice is coming clear with 35 days to go? >> there's no question they try to muddy the water because what other choice do they have? hillary clinton has been a politician longer than i've been alive if you can believe it. >> 46 years now. >> look where we are as a nation. the politicians who created the mess won't be the politicians to fix it. the politicians that created obama care and the mess we have there and have created the $20 trillion worth of debt that we have and haven't fixed an educational system in this country that's ranked 30th in the world will not be the same people who fix the problem. you know who is going to fix the problem? somebody who comes in from the outside and can tear washington apart. that's what my father will do. his heart and soul is in this mission. he has dedicated his life and given up his life to go in and try to better this country, and him and mike pence -- >> they really are -- the economy came front and center

here, and hillary does want to raise taxes, kind of doubling down on obama's agtenda, but in the last eight years 12 million more on food stamps, lowest participation rate since the '70s, lowest homeownership in 50 years. with that said, why do they act as though the economy is good. kaine said in the last year we created this many jobs. i'm like the last eight years we have 12 million more on food stamps. >> and people in the united states haven't gotten a raise in 15 years if you can believe it. they haven't gotten a raise. median incomes have been stagnant. problem with that is taxes have gone up, obama care premiums went up, utilities, your cost of living went up but people are making the same amount of money they were 15 years ago. we have 100 million people in this country out of the workforce. since we signed nafta -- >> 95 million. >> we lost one in three manufacturing jobs that went overseas. we no longer have them in our country.

we don't make anything anymore, we don't produce anything anymore, we don't have jobs anymore. these politicians have killed the american dream and my father wants to bring that back. >> i want to go back because everything you are saying here is substance. everything tim kaine had to deal with your father and his personality and what he might have said here, there and everywhere, that seems to be all he wants to debate. what advice do you give your dad? because obviously that's their strategy. >> well, listen, that is their strategy. it is very sad that's their strategy. they can't run on their own track record because it has been, quite frankly, horrible. that's their strategy, to divert and move in different directions and spew a lot of lies, and certainly a lot of lies were coming if one side tonight and that's very, very sad. my father has to keep going with his message and it is a message spot on. put america first again. very simple. create jobs, create safety, fix our educational system, fix our medical system, which is a total wreck after obama care. start putting america first again. our president comes off a plane in china two weeks ago. they don't even bring a

staircase up to air force one, they don't bring a staircase. that's how little respect the rest of our world has for our country and it is so sad. my father will see respect absolutely restored. >> proud of where the campaign is right now, do you feel victory in 35 days? are you glad it is coming to an end? >> no question about it. >> marc mark calpern is behind him. >> i'm proud of my dad, he is one of the best men in the worlds. mike did an amazing job. i was proud to sit front and sent and represent the family tonight. >> thank you so much. a very good night for indiana governor mike pence. i spoke with trump's campaign manager kellyanne conway and trump's senior adviser jason miller. >> joining us is kellyanne conway, communications director jason miller. i have to get all of you millers on the campaign straightened out here. one of the things that stood

out, how annoying tim kaine was tonight. >> goodness, it was shocking even to those who don't really care for him. i mean tim kaine spent all of this time interrupting and actually ignoring the moderator, female moderator i would like to remind the left who loves to throw around words like sexist and unhinged. but mike pence kept his calm. he was there to talk about issues and substance and he did that. i think policy the way ronald reagan famously said, sean, that we saw tonight the first execution of judgment in leadership by donald trump after he became the nominee was to select mike pence to run on his ticket as vice president, and i think tonight you saw the fruits of that. >> you are the communications expert here, not me. i have only been in radio 30 years and i'm starting my 21st year at fox. from a communications standpoint to constantly interrupt? >> it was really bad for senator kaine to do this. i think the calm and even feel that governor pence had this evening, really allowed the viewers, the people at home, the

voters to get a sense of what the message was. that's ultimately with our ticket what matters, it is the message. it is mr. trump and governor pence's message of restoirng our economy, protecting our economy. that came there. >> one of the things that's very clear from the strategy just as an outside observer is they want to dump the kitchen sink and only talk about the kitchen sink of donald trump. i think it was "the washington post" described it as he's trying to put ten pounds of sand in a five pound bag. >> it looked awkward. i hope tim kaine was promised a fabulous prize every time he vomited out the string of talking points. >> i wish i said vomited out. why didn't i pick up on that? >> they weren't funny or particularly effective because they were so nonresponsive to the question asked. if you are watching at home, sean, you saw the actual question posed by the moderator and then tim kaine's answer and the two did not meet. at least mike pence was able to answer the questions. but this has been the strategy

all along. what do we talk about every single week together? that our campaign is about issues and their campaign is about us. time is running out now. it is a great test in the remaining month, a great test for america, do you want this election to be about issues and be about you or do you want it to be about donald trump and about the insults that hillary clinton and tim kaine bring to bear. >> this is the whole thing. it was interesting from another standpoint, issues that didn't come up in the first debate, vetting refugees, immigration, digging into this bad iranian deal, some on and so forth. seems on issues that's where you want to be, that's where the trump campaign is. does this wear thin in the next two debates if hillary continues to regurgitate robotically or vomit out those lines? >> it does. i think we have to cut tim kaine a little slack this evening. i mean i think it is tough for anyone to get up there and try to defend hillary clinton's record, to try to defend her on the e-mails and the fbi, to try to defend her on illegal

immigration, to try to defend her on making the world less safe. i mean that's a tough job. so i'll cut senator kaine a little slack on that one. it goes to what this movement is that mr. trump and governor pence are leading. >> i thought donald trump answered a few questions he didn't need to answer, the birther question or issues about his taxes, and i thought governor pence highlighted this point, this economy is not good. >> that's right. >> you have 12 million more americans on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty, and in both debates hillary and senator kaine make it sound like everything is going great. where are they living? >> well, they live in their own minds. in fact, that's exactly my point, that if we will win on the issues. we have the dynamic compelling messages and the issues, we win. that's why we're highly competitive in states like ohio, iowa and florida, the states that romney and mccain lost.

yesterday trump was in colorado and couldn't get in the arena. in arizona people waited outside since yesterday to get in. he's like the most successful performer who never played an instrument in these venues. usually you have to come with a singing voice, a piano or crowd to pack them in like he does. the media says crowds don't matter. yes, they do. you know what else the pun dits are going to say tonight? they're going to say, you know, the vp debate never matters, it is not going to move the needle. that's how you know he did a good job. bill clinton trashed obama care and her running mate here tonight i think delivered a lackluster, very uneven performance where he looked like he was unhinged and interrupting. >> answer that? that one is tough to top. i mean you see there can't be that many energy and enthusiasm for clinton and kaine coming out of tonight. >> this is a choice election, a choice on every big issue of our

time. say radical islam, not. obama care, keep it or leave it. immigration, build a wall or don't. education from the state, top down from the federal government. supreme court. these are real choices. 35 days, this country will make a very important choice. >> it is. if you want a change, trump and pence, that's where it will be. >> and americans agree. 70% of americans say they want to take the country in a new and different direction. that makes the issue very clear. i think the other thing we saw tonight is that mike pence, even though he's known to be calm and he's known to be low key and, you know, indiana nice, he was not taking it when tk wim kaines lying about donald trump or lying about gf. i think what i liked g him tonight he is tapped into what donald trump says let's give our voice to the forgotten man and woman, when he said to im kaine

do you think things are going well. >> i think we ought to have a drinking game, every time they regurgitate robotically we take a shot. problem in is ten minutes we will be on the floor. we montaged them, we have the whole thing. we put them all together. >> by the way, he was interrupting the moderator but ignoring her. i want to make that point too. want to make that point as a woman because i don't believe in gender politics at all but, boy, does -- >> if donald trump did it, mike pence did it. >> that's right. if they had done it that's all you would hear about. that's all we heard about last week, i think unfairly so. look, i talked to you last night, too. why is hillary clinton at only 53% among women in the new cnn poll? what is holding -- >> i have a last important question because a lot of people thought -- all right, after the judge, after the kahn issue, why did he go back to alicia machado? >> he was trying to say that he has actually -- he gave her a second chance and he felt like he was very -- treated very

unfairly and hillary clinton obviously through it in there at the end and he was being attacked. i will tell you, i always feel donald trump is at his best when he's talking about the horrors of obama care, when he is talking about building the wall, when he is talking about the syrian refugee policy, talking about destroying radical islam, talking about creating jobs and trade in immigration access that he has been able to bring to the forefront of the voters' consciousness, sean. that's what got him to be the nominee and that's what americans want to hear. when i go to rallies, when he starts ripping on repeal and replace obama care, people are on their feet and what they want to hear. >> good point. guys, good to see you. thank you so much. tell the other miller high. thanks, kellyanne, good to see you. and coming up, lisa boothe, charlie hurt will join us here in the spin room to react to tonight's debate. geraldo rivera and much more, also reince priebus. straight ahead from virginia.

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>> finish. >> the clinton foundation accepted foreign contributions from foreign governments and foreign donors while she was secretary of state. >> now i can weigh in. >> she had a private server. >> i get to weigh in now. >> that was hillary clinton's running mate senator tim kaine interrupting. the rnc saying he did it over 70 times earlier tonight. here with reaction from washington times charlie hurt and contributor lisa boothe. i couldn't take it. it is like i literally screamed at the tv, shut up. did you have the same feeling? >> it was almost like the clinton campaign kind of sent him out over prepared and sent him out and he was so eager to get in there, and he over -- >> and regurgitate robotic lines. you know what's interesting, that's what hillary did. now he's done it. two more debates we have to hear this and not hear about the economy or anything substantive? >> the problem for senator kaine by doing that he came across as

a petulant child and governor pence came across as the adult in the room. governor pence had a perfect debate tonight. he did exactly what he needed to do, was defend donald trump but layout the indictment of hillary clinton. he did that. he brought up the private e-mail server, the clinton foundation, and the most important thing he did was draw the contrast between saying i'm a governor from indiana, donald trump is a business guy, these are politicians. that contrast was perfect. >> think of it, what is a good businessman do all of the time? they hire great people. look at the people, loot at governor pence tonight or look at rudy guilliani around him or newt gingrich. i disagree with chris christie on some things, but you know what i mean. >> that the first hire is governor pence and it reflect well on him. i also thought tim kaine truly strained credulity with the litany of things trying to take the foreign policy failures like

benghazi, like the iran deal and tried to turn them around. >> like positives. >> yeah, and then blaming trump for them. >> and what universe is he living in, the economy is good, we created x number of jobs in the last two days but don't worry, everything is great. >> and that sticks with people because they may not pay attention to it like in a conscious way, but they do. this guy is full of it. >> and governor pence asked senator kaine when talking about how the economy allegedly is so great, he asked him something along the lines of, is it? do you remember that comment during the debate, which is smart. >> is it good? and you'd pay more in taxes than you would supposed to? how many americans do that. >> no wonder the economy is bad. >> you have to wake up if you're a liberal in norng and say, gee, i need to pay more. more reaction to tonight's vice presidential debate. that and reince priebus as we continue from the spin room at longwood university. we'll continue. what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways

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americans who believe that we can have a stronger america at home and abroad, who believe we can get this economy moving again, who believe that we can end illegal immigration once and for all. >> all right. another moment from tonight's vp debate. joining us salem radio nationally syndicated talk show host larry elder, fox news controversy monica crowley, and fox contributor doug schoen. the lines have been regurgitated, do they go away now? >> think you will hear more it. hillary's lead has grown marginally. >> i would get rid of it. >> you're not going to because donald trump took the bait. tim kaine was there to create as many problems for mike pence as possible. it may not have been elegant and i think pence won the debate, but kaine did what he was trained and sent out to do. you will see the same performance with a little empathy thrown in on sunday night because it is a town hall,

from secretary clinton. >> what do you think, monica? >> i think that governor pence's dominant performance has the potential to reset this campaign, maybe not dramatically but maybe enough to get undecided voters or voters uneasy with the trump/pence ticket to take a second look. what mike pence did tonight was essentially prosecute the case against both barack obama and hillary clinton in terms of their policies and their record. he also in terms of his demeanor was calm and rational and therefore reassuring to a lot of these voters. remember, sean, that debates are less about policy nuance than they are about style, tone, the occasional zinger, and demonstrating the ability to think on one's feet. in all of those respect governor pence totally dominated, and i think -- i think actually altered the view of the trump/pence campaign going into the next presidential debate.

>> larry, your thoughts? >> well, it depends on how many people watched the debate. my fear is that only a fraction of the people that watched the first debate will watch this one, but i agree in terms of style, in terms of appearance, in terms of impressions, mike pence was calm. he was the ice to donald trump's fire. i just kind of wish when the attack on donald trump's character came up that pence had mentioned that a man had worked very closely with hillary described hillary as a friend whom he respected and said she had unbridled ambition and she was greedy. when kaine said that donald trump was putting himself first, it would have been nice to remind people that one of the most respected leaders in america, colin powell, has called hillary greedy. i also think that some other things were left on the table, and i think regarding isis we should remind people that obama pulled out all of the troops out of iraq over the advice of ambassador to iraq, over advice of joint chiefs, over the advice of the cia director, his entire

national security team urged him not to do it anyway after callis isis jv he did it anyway. >> i wish we had more time. thank you for being with us. when we come back geraldo remember vara and sheriff david clarke here as we continue live from virginia straight ahead. i love getting more for less. and sheriff david clarke here as we continue live from virginia straight ahead. p?p?h

. after traveling millions of miles as our secretary of state, after being the architect of the foreign policy of this administration, america's less safe today than it was the day that barack obama became president of the united states. it is absolutely inarguable. we've weak ened america's place in the world. it has been a combination of factors, but mostly a lack of leadership. all right. another key moment from tonight's vice presidential debate between governor mike pence and senator tim kaine. joining us with reaction milwaukee sheriff david clark,

senior correspondent geraldo railway var o rivera, i will start with you tonight. >> it was a pleasure watching two decent, god fearing patriotic americans go out at, both of home are the fathers of serving united states marines and thinking how different this campaign would be if these were the two figures at the top of both of the respective tickets. the ratings would be lower, but i think you would have a more sensible and in many ways more reasoned debate over real issues. >> what was so reasonable about tim kaine tonight? he wouldn't shut up and stop interrupting? >> i think in the first half of the debate he was annoying with interruptions. >> was the whole debate, wouldn't stop. >> that's why i give pence the slight advantage over who won the debate. pence did something his boss failed to do.

there was no rosy o'donnell, no ms. universe. governor pence did not rise to the bait that kaine presented. i think that he did an excellent job. i think kaine made made his points as well though, sean. i think in fairness, i give a slight edge as i said to governor pence. i think he won the debate. >> all right. sheriff, what is your take? well, senator kaine came off as a raging lunatick. he needs to layoff the caffeine and go to the decaf. i thought we were going to have a howard dean moment for a minute there. he mentioned a few things worth talking about. kaine criticized donald trump for saying african-americans live in heel. i said it before donald trump did. i said the american ghetto is a hell hole. unless mrs. bill clinton and senator kaine think it is okay for blacks to live in entrenched poverty in crime infested neighborhoods.

he also mentioned community policing. community policing will not work where you have an enfrenched under class that is culturally dysfunctional. it is a two-way street and you can't have a one-sided effort by the police. there are a number of things that tim kaine doesn't understand policing that i think donald trump and governor pence do. >> i don't think he understands policing. i don't think he understands the economy. i don't think he understands the need to vet refugees. i don't think he understands the need for border security. i think the differences are profound, and that's what comes through more and more as we see both camps together here, geraldo. >> you know, first of all to sheriff clarke's point about the hell hole, quote, unquote, that blacks live in, you know, i don't know where sheriff clarke lives in milwaukee county, but i can tell you as a native born new yorker who rides my bicycle everywhere, who knows every street, every corner in this town, harlem is not a hell hole. i got news for you there. beautiful, brown stones there.

there's a striving middle class. there's new restaurants opening all the time. to generalize like that and to call that -- >> geraldo you're being unfair to sheriff clarke. >> no, he is saying -- >> you're right because -- >> they've been neglected. look at chicago, come on. >> there in the chicago situation with all of these homicides and all of the violent shootings, these are -- these are definitely -- chicago has a problem that new york doesn't. there are pockets of real gang violence. >> all right. >> where guns are everywhere. >> we have less than a minute. >> and we stop and frisk -- >> let me give the situation. >> where stop and frisk would be aappropriate. >> sheriff. >> stop and frisk is not inherently. >> we have to give the sheriff a chance. >> i'm at ground level in the american get owe at milwaukee every day. you ought to come with me, spend a week with me, do a ride along, not just a couple of hours, do a ride away, and then i will take

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and welcome back to "hannity," this side of the vice presidential debate as we continue from spin alley. joining us chairman of the rnc ryan priebus. how are you? >> doing great. 22 to 4, it is a big win. >> effectively prosecuted the case for donald trump and really laid out the case why hillary clinton has been a total train wreck in everything she has touched. you know, the fact that he was able to do that tonight was great and we're looking forward to a good few days. >> why the talking points before the debate that mike ended up winning? >> i don't know. we were so confident he would

win, i'm not sure about that, but certainly he did a great job. i thought that, you know, tim kaine was caught flat footed on a few things like the clinton foundation, the e-mail scandal, all of the things that make her so unqualified to be president of the united states. >> one of the things i liked about the debate is very substantive. i was surprised at kaine's style which was constant non-stop irritating interruption. >> it was something else. i was in the debate hall so i haven't looked at it as everyone at home has seen it, but sitting there it was unbelievable the interruptions and constant talking over mike pence. but he was cool as a cucumber. i think he did a great job, and i think it was important for the american people to be reminded that it was hillary clinton that, number one, everything she has done, back from when bill clinton was attorney general to governor to president, when she was first lady, to when she was a senator. every single thing she touched turned to scandal, everything from whitewater on to the e-mail scandal. it was a mess. she can't be trusted. >> the one thing i noticed when

you look at the two debates is you've got the democrats seem just fixated on dumping the kitchen sink with their litany of robotic, memorized lines about donald trump and what he said. but they don't seem to want to talk about their tax plan to raise taxes, raise spending. we've got -- the last president has accumulated more debt by the time he leaves office than every other president before him combined. >> or the fact that this litany, as you say, of attacks that they memorize. you know, it is amazing they can memorize all of these things, but when the fbi asked hillary clinton 39 times whether she remembered things that actually mattered, right? she said, i don't recall, i don't recall. she couldn't recall whether she was trained, she couldn't recall anything about things that had to do with her job as secretary of state, not to mention the fact when she did do her job as secretary of state it was a mess. the russian reset, libya, benghazi, isis that is growing out of control. on whose watch did it happen? hillary clinton's watch. she has to answer for that, and

tim kaine was prosecuted with that case tonight. he had nothing to say about it. >> it was interesting. i thought we got more substance in this debate. we did talk imgriggs graduation, we talked about the hall, about comprehensive reform, what they want and donald trump's plan, we talked about vetting refugees, a lot of time spent on iran, on putin, on foreign policy. it seemed when it goes substance they can't defend the economic record of the last eight years or the foreign policy record. >> well, and they can't defend the fact she was the one in unique position to solve these problems as secretary of state. who out there watching this has been secretary of state? there might be, you know, maybe four or five of them out there, that's it. the rest of us, we weren't in position that hillary clinton was in. she had the chance and she failed. i mean that is the number one reason why she cannot be possibly promoted to president of the united states. let's talk about, let's look forward to sunday night and donald trump versus hillary, round two. what advice would you give him? >> my advice would be to always

pivot back. pivot back to hillary, explain to the american people the things that she didn't do when she had the chance. i think he did a great job at the debate last week. i think he's going to come even more prepared and more ready to go because, you know, it's been another, what, it is going to be ten days since the last debate. she is going to have that opportunity. you get the chance to feel what that feels like on that stage as a person who never has run for office before. he's going to come back and do great. >> and definitely doesn't have to answer her questions about his taxes, especially she is somebody who gave a lot of speeches to a lot of special interests and wall street firms and insurance companies, why won't she release? i haven't heard in either debate. >> how did she make this money? here they are with their entire lives with the backs of taxpayers, made $200 million giving get in the way of the

message that mike pence was bringing tonight, which was substance on all of these big issues, immigration, health care, all of these things, immigrati immigration. >> she's an incredible hard worker and someone that never ran for office before. and people in politics all the time can sit here and take these accusations and, you know, i get pounded every day. i wouldn't want your job.

most people don't want my job. >> especially during the primary. it's very hard to ignore criticism. and it's not a criticism. it's just that -- >> it's an attack. she's attacking him. she wants him to respond like water. >> it's not a krit. >> if you have never run office before and someone is attacking you out of nowhere, it is a stuff thing to take. i thought my whole world was coming apart. now i can -- that's like 100 a day now. >> want to know what the first review said? that co that. >> you got good hair. >> it's real, too, like trump's. >> we approach you being with us. you got 35 days to go. you predicting victory and how is the ground game? >> we're doing well in voter registration, but, look, this is coming down to the wire and we are going to keep working hard.

>> ryan priebus. thank you for joining us. we have concluded our night here because this was a pretty feisty have theial debate. from virginia we'll see you back here tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. ♪

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♪ it is 9:00 p.m. here at longwood university at farmville, virginia. and the running mates are ready to roll. good evening, i'm megyn kelly. >> three minutes away from the one and only vice presidential debate of 2016. indiana governor, mike pence, and virginia senator, tim kaine, will face off with 90 minutes without any breaks. >> both men hoping to use that time to boost their party's ticket while reintroducing themselves to the american people. if you look at the recent polls for about a third of the country, this is the very first introduction. they don't know who these guys are. >> that's exactly right. and a lot of the talk, megyn, befor