of that, this is what you see. this is little bit south of miami. it is my understanding -- >> north of miami. >> north bay village. you can see we're already starting to see weather change. more reason to pay attention. >> see you back here in an hour. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. harris: we will begin with a look at that storm. fox news alert. hurricane matthew has once again become a category 4 storm, a beast getting bigger this hour. 200 miles across. that is something to note. we'll get into that in a moment. it is really changing the landscape of haiti or has. flattened, growing death toll of more than 65 people to give you idea what this storm canada. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith. radio talk show host meghan mccain. talk show host and spokesperson for the libre initiative, rachel campos duffy. today's #oneluckyguy, welcome back fox news contributor and

columnist for "the washington times," charlie hurt. we say you're outnumbered. >> i feel outnumbered. delighted to be outnumbered. harris: busy news day. let's get to it. hurricane matthew expected to make landfall in florida in a few hours. four states declared a state of emergency. millions of americans are ordered to evacuate from the coastline. florida governor rick scott with this warning. >> don't take a chance. a small movement could mean a lot. that's why we have to prepare for a direct hit. so again, if you need to evacuate and you haven't, evacuate. this storm will kill you. time is running out. we don't have that much time left. harris: forecasters say this hurricane could hit florida twice. senior meteorologist janice dean live in the extreme weather center. start there with the boomerang effect? >> that is five days out. we are concerned with that. it is a little bit after rarity

that we see that track come full circle, it is still five days out and beyond five days, you know, the forecast tracks get a little bit muddy. but what i can tell you we're dealing with, potentially unprecedented hurricane along the coast of florida, that is going to last a duration of 60 hours. it is a major hurricane is set to rake the east coast of florida. really feeling effects on west coast of florida as well. we have tropical storm warnings. orlando, florida, over the next couple of hours, we'll see conditions start to deteriorate in south florida. well-defined eye. category 4 storm. this is day five this has been a major hurricane which is a record in atlantic basin for month of october, to see a storm of this strength for this many days. future radar comes very close to port st. lucie. northwest of that, overnight tonight. that doesn't mean you will not see conditions deteriorating along the south coast of florida

as well. then it makes its scrape along the coast. doesn't make landfall. doesn't really matter. if you have core of very strong winds of 140 miles per hour, that is all you need for a lot of destruction and potentially catastrophic damage along the east coast. then friday, we'll have to contend with the potential of major hurricane off the coast of south carolina and georgia. then we potentially watch this storm do a recurve. look at the track as of 11:00 a.m. cat-4 storm. thursday, starting to see conditions deteriorate. it make as close pass around the melbourne area north and east on friday morning f it makes landfall, it doesn't make a difference f it is close to the shore, moves 20 miles to the left of that, that could mean between 50 mile-per-hour winds and 120 mile-an-hour winds. that will be crucial. we're still dealing with a major

hurricane up towards georgia. south carolina, cat 2 storm. which is what harris talks about. this will be topic of discussion. has to do with upper level winds. a trough helping to guide this northward. high pressure in the atlantic that will recurve it and squash it down. then we might see a recurve of a tropical storm. but again the main message here, we're dealing with a storm. one of which the east coast of florida perhaps has never seen. we haven't had a major hurricane hit anywhere across the u.s. in 10 years, meaning category 3 or higher. not only see six to nine foot storm surge with this, that is the pushing of water with the counterclockwise winds along the coast, we could get eight to 10 inches of rainfall, isolated amounts over a foot and destructive strong winds. gfs and gfs and euro come into close agreement. if not a landfall, couple times off east coast of florida.

then into georgia and the carolinas. then we watch the weird curve does happen. on average once in a decade but we have see hurricanes do this, recurve thing. there is the euro. almost identical. that is why that track is fairly certain that we are going to be dealing with a major hurricane along the east coast of florida, perhaps for a period of 60 hours. that is 200 to 300 miles along the coast, which again could be catastrophic. that is why risk scott is using dire language he is using. harris: absolutely. we haven't heard the language since sandy. this storm will kill you if you don't get off the beach. language is very strong. talk about the width of the storm. you talked about a distance more than 200 miles. that is frightening but the width of the storm? >> the hurricane-force winds. category 4 hurricane force wind stretch 30 miles.

tropical storm winds stretch 160 miles from the center of the storm. you're talking about 300-mile wide storm. sandra: janice, it is sandra smith. obviously the governor is telling residents of florida to prepare for the worst here. what is the best-case scenario? if we don't see it make landfall what is a good scenario look like considering the winds that we're seeing right now? >> the good scenario is more of, offshore, way offshore hurricane that doesn't bring those, those tightly-packed winds in the core, center of the storm, which are 140 mile-an-hour sustained winds. that stretches for 20 miles away from the center of the storm, that eye, that very calm area of the storm. so if that stays off like 50 miles off the shore, then, we're in better shape. but all of the reliable forecast models are showing, if not a

very close landfall, just a scrape along the coast of those hurricane forms winds, which is the worst-case scenario. listen, i will be first one to tell you hope we're wrong. i hope tomorrow people are mad at us. harris: yeah. >> but we have to err on the side of caution, and prepare for the worst. sandra: governor is urging people to get out now. the storm could kill you. janice, thank you, the top story now. people are under evacuation orders in florida, georgia and the carolinas as hurricane matthew takes aim at the u.s. leland vittert live in daytona shores, florida. with the very latest. what are you seeing, sandra? reporter: if you look behind me, if you saw it was windy day on daytona beach and wind coming in and surf is out. if greg pans out, see what

matthew is bringing, high winds and heavy waves but black ominous cloud headed our way. if we look at the atlantic it really kicked up as we got here this morning. i wouldn't say there is a sense of panic in the community but there is sense of urgency after hearing what governor rick scott said about the storm. major concern on the barrier islands is the storm surge. the water rising up will come over the boardwalk and waves crash into businesses along atlantic avenue. you see windows boarded up, sandbags. that extends a couple of blocks in. all of the hotels here have closedded their doors. they have boarded up and kicked simply everybody out. couple million people all up and down the atlantic coastline under evacuation orders. what does that mean? that means the police are saying if you stay, not going to come help you. that is the message from daytona

beach police. at 7:00 p.m. sundown, they will close bridges. no one can come on to the islands. police officers are working 20 hour shifts as they begin to try to secure this city. a lot of police say they are worried they may not get around this city because of how high the storm surge could be washing over the barrier islands here. fuel is very scarce, if you can find it at all. most of the gas stations we've been too, the pumps are wrapped up in plastic and people have gone home. food, we found food a little bit earlier. right now, those even as far as inland as orlando, which is 40 miles off the coast are being told they need to be able to shelter in place, hunker down in your houses three days. if you get to a shelter which they opened earlier, folks are told there may not be food or water. you have to bring your own. sandbagging operations shut down at 3:00. by sunday down, the police are saying they simply want everybody off the roads because

of how much worse this storm is going to get. as janice was staying it could last 24 or so hours. they want people to stay inside. then comes cleanup. florida power and light brought in thousands of employees. they're staged all over in hotels around this area, ready to work when the storm passes. as for preparations you get a sense people are prepared? you certainly do. things are people worried about here specifically this issue it has been 10 years since there was a major hurricane to hit florida. certainly a long time since one hit right here. not only people have become a bit complacent because there have been false alarms but other issue they're dealing with, lady, so many people moved here the past 10 years they don't understand the power of these storms. they look out, they see this, like these folks down here taking selfies saying we'll ride the storm out. by the time they realize how bad it can get, it is certainly too late.

sandra: leland makes me nervous to hear you say that you don't see panic from the residents there. the governor said, you don't want this to be i didn't know it would be this bad moment. as far as preparations, you said gas is running out. stores shelves look plentiful. are you getting sense these are people who are saying, you know what? we'll ride this one out or expecting this could be the big one? reporter: well there is certainly a couple different camps here. a lot of folks we met at grocery store, it will be hurricane party. we'll stock up. we've ridden these things out before. a lot of folks saying they're leaving. vast majority of folks you have to think have headed out of town. you think about hotels in fort myers, which is five, six hours away from here, are already filled up with evacuees. a lot of people heeded those warnings. others said look, we've been through this before. we're going to stick around. then you have to see what happens. it is a sad case certainly. then you have to think about the police and first-responders who

end up sticking around as well because that's their job. often times they're put in great peril when the folks call 911, once it is too late. sort of the real question, can the police officers or firefighters get to them in time to rescue them? can they get to them without putting lives in too much danger? you get a sense covering these and living down here for couple years, you get a sense people take this one a lot more seriously. those really stark warnings that we heard from governor scott and heard from local officials, as they speak on local television, they tend to show you this is a very different storm. people seem to be sensing that urgency. important not to be pa nick. that is how you have car wrecks. we had a pile up earlier today, those kinds of things. you have a get a sense of urgency here. sundown is 8:00 is when everybody wants to be inside. sandra: we'll hope for the best. leland vittert from daytona

beach shores, florida. be safe. harris: one thing is ominous, exactly what the storm is already doing. it is churning. we know where it has been. before the show we were pulling pictures, one in particular of haiti. we know that was earthquake-ridden area, and many of the people were in structures that might be weakened, but my goodness, gracious. when you talk about a storm flattened the landscape, look at haiti, just breaks your heart. you know more than 65 people that they know of at this point have perished in this. where they will go, where they have been for the last couple of days, those are big questions because as you heard janice dean saying earlier, the hallmark of this storm early on it was very slow-moving. that it sat for a long time. it wasn't just the winds. it was the rain. it was inundation of water that left people so stricken by the storm. faster-moving now. it picked up so much power, category 4. we'll continue to watch it,

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harris: fox news alert. we continue to cover hurricane matthew we will be getting on to politics. we want you to know we're on this right now. you can see remnants of the storm already moving into florida's coastline. millions of people have been moved out of the way. the governor of florida is hoping that many more who remain behind will heed the warnings and get away from the beast that formed into category 4. we'll stay on the story for you. we can tell you it is upwards 2 to 300 miles wide. its path could be 2 to 300 miles moving up the coast. we're on it. here on "outnumbered," telling you exactly what is happening with the storm. as things happen and change, we'll bring it to you. sandra? sandra: we turn now to presidential politics with the next debate, count it, three days away.

donald trump's campaign adding a last minute town hall in new hampshire to his schedule tonight. allowing him to get a little extra practice for the debate he will face against hillary clinton on sunday. as the gop nominee said to be getting help from chris christie, a town hall veteran. mr. trump's allies and staffers, purportedly to emulate mike penn's debate style from monday night. he is heaping prays on his performance. >> mike pence did a incredible job. i'm getting a lot of credit, that was my first choice or first hire as we say in las vegas. he was that nominal. he was cool, and smart, you take a look at him, he was meant to be doing what he's doing. sandra: meantime as she did before the first debate, hillary clinton carving time with her campaign schedule to prepare. today she is off the campaign trail. all right.

i want to go to charles hurt first. we're three days away. this is another big moment in this election. what do you expect? >> i hope donald trump has spent this time preparing because he needs to. the first -- the first performance was, it wasn't his best but i have to say i think media sort has overplayed how bad it was. and what we're seeing in the polls, you know, drop-off largely because of the overwhelmingly negative and i think, you know, in unwarranted level. sandra: one of the criticism, meghan, even coming from his supporters, get off of what you don't want to talk about. pivot and talk about what you do want to talk about which he sort of struggled with, many agree on the first debate. you have a lot of experience with town halls. how should he be preparing? >> i political town halls one of the oldest forms of democracy in the united states because you have to face-to-face answer any

question you want from the constituents. unlike some in the media, no bias, no press secretary to meander things the way you want, you know this, your husband does it. this is makes me uncomfortable donald trump not having political experience. i had a woman on my radio show. i want a woman to ask donald trump do you think i'm fat. that something, could come from anyone, could change, could change the election. so i'm looking forward to it. that being said, hillary clinton is going to have to be a human and have a real response and she is not good at this either. i'm really looking forward to sunday. sandra: all right. his strategy the first time, rachel, is not so much preparation. should he be preparing more or differently this time? >> absolutely. when you have a question from real people, they want real answers. you can't answer around. really he has to sit down an learn how to, you know, the policy. i think the personality, he is

going to win on because she is very wooden, she is very rehearsed, comes off in phony. "snl" clip, it was funny, this weekend said my human father. i think there is something there about her where she is so overrehearsed and sort of talking pointish. i think people are kind of over talking points. they like real talking gift but he has to have some substance. he has to prove he cares even a little bit about policy and digging in. sandra: as you just heard, he was very complimentary of his running mate mike pence's performance the other night. perhaps he learns, a calm, cool collected style on the stage. harris: i hear the word style. i don't think preparation is style. like i wish we could get away from those two things being oppositional. it is not you're being stylish by being off-the-cuff and not prepared. being prepared is not a style. you can do both, have your personality, know your stuff,

items come up because you know you can talk about, we have those things we win on as human, we win on some and not on others, that is not style. that is winning and preparation. >> hillary clinton she is such a preparer, which is something people really like about her, but it does become, if it becomes sort of thing where it is robotic and automatic, which people come to expect from her. it does sort of eat in -- harris: not preparation of one-liners. that is the difference. preparation of knowing her facts. >> it came off as very phony and grating when he had canned one-liners. >> emphasizing with the american public and average joe, i'm no longer a fan of chris christie he did it an art form. some politicians can do it like poetry. donald trump and hillary clinton are not those time of people. sandra: who do you think will come out. >> she has to focus group which

pantsuit she wears. >> set it up for us. you know where to find all the debate coverage. we're all over it, wall-to-wall coverage. main event happening 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on fnc. c. we are tracking powerful and deadly hurricane matthew as it steams closer to the florida close. expected to make landfall hours from now. our fox team is live on the ground with more on this potentially catastrophic storm. questions whether bill clinton is hurting his wife's campaign more than he is helping? his most recent gaffe. whether he is too much of a distraction.

sandra: growing concerns this hour over potentially catastrophic storm. we're watching hurricane matthew. it has been upgraded to category 4 as it barrels closer

to the united states. florida governor rick scott warning residents in matthew's path to get out now. bryan llenas live from the florida coast with very latest where many, many people are making preparations for this big storm to potentially make landfall. bryan? reporter: sandra, the preparations are coming down to the final hour. as the hurricane comes closer to closer in florida. we're between sebastian and vero beach north of west palm. conditions are deteriorating. look at idea of beach and coastline here. the water really starting to pick up. you can tell by the picture, we've got one of those feeder bands starting to come in. this is what we're seeing all throughout florida. the water getting rougher. feeder bands coming in and beach eroding there as conditions get worse and worse. this is category 4 major hurricane. a at this point getting supplies need to do so or have done so. at this point the conditions only get worse.

when the conditions get worse, last thing you want is to be stuck in a car or in a road at any moment when hurricane-force winds start going. 1.5 million floridians have been asked to evacuate all along the east coast. effects of the storm from miami up through jacksonville. we're talking about major, major low areas, coastal areas and barrier islands like we're on, mobile homes being asked to evacuate. leave and leave now. the governor, rick scott, spoke many, many times today. he urged people to really pay attention to what could be a catastrophic storm. >> this is gameday. this is going to hit. intercoastal bridges are locked down in palm beach county. if you're on the east coast from palm beach northwest likely see wind between 100 and 150 miles an hour. just think about that. 100 to 150 miles per hour. these catastrophic levels can

completely wipe out well-built homes and destroy neighborhoods. reporter: florida power and light says 2.5 million people could be without power when the storm comes friday night, saturday morning. sandra? sandra: brian, we've seen reports today, cruise ships are being turned around, rerouted, obviously away from any of these shorelines and areas. vero beach, i know a couple that was vacationing there over the weekend this is very popular tourist destination. have tourists been able to evacuate? have they been able to get flights out of the area? are they heeding warnings? >> i spoke to a couple tourists somebody here from texas. i thought this would be regular hurricane. he came down to the beach. i don't see anybody. people told him during hurricane season people come out on the beach enjoy the sights. when he didn't see anybody he was scared. based on what we're hearing local reports, what we've been

talking to, people are starting to realize and already realized this is major storm. hotels bunkered down. many people are not staying at them. many people have went west, at this point going north may not be the best idea. the storm will be hugging entire east coast north. so if you can't go west and can't bunker down in your hotel. next best bet go to shelter or school usually. go to a friend's house. timing is everything. this storm is coming in now and hitting really hard tonight. we don't want people to get stuck, sandra. sandra: bryan llenas, thanks for braving the elements down there in vero beach, florida. thank you, sir. reporter: no problem. harris: it is coming in fast. we'll stay on it. growing questions whether former president bill clinton is doing more harm than good to his wife's campaign. mr. clinton recently criticized obamacare calling it the craziest thing in the world. he tried to walk that back. donald trump said clinton blew

it by torching president obama's signature lesson. >> there is bill clinton is at it. it doesn't make any sense. and that is -- model. it just doesn't work! can you imagine what was going on. a big part of her campaign is obamacare. big part. and she wants to double up and double down and wants it to go -- i mean, this woman doesn't know what the hell she's doing. harris: there have been some other questionable moves along the trail from hillary clinton's husband. remember when he met with attorney general loretta lynch at phoenix airport this summer. happened at height of justice department probe of hillary clinton's private email server. sparking negative headlines. just this past thursday slammed bernie sanders potentially angry supporters. heckler shouted he couldn't vote for somebody that sends thousands of people to prison, mr. clinton's 1994 crime bill.

here is his reaction. [shouting] >> wait, wait. wait, wait, wait. i agree, if i had sent millions of your people to prison or she had that would be good. hillary didn't vote for the '94 crime bill even though senator sanders did. harris: that obamacare comment i mentioned. here it is now. >> you've got this crazy system where all of sudden 25 million more people have health care and then people are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and theirn hal. it is craziest thing in the world. harris: he later said he strongly supported that bill but added there are problems with it. okay. rachel you were about to scoot off the couch you were laughing so hard. >> this is sign that donald trump is even impacting bill clinton. starting to tell the truth and say things the way people see them. you know, you don't know middle class voters if you can't admit

that obamacare is not working for them. if you don't get it, then you don't get them. what he is doing, he is trying to, unfaithful as he has been in the past i think in this case he is trying to help her. he is trying to shower that she doesn't have to tie herself 100% to the obama legacy. she is doing that to get black votes. that is understandable, and she also likes them as surrogates but to say that obamacare is great and i will double down on it is not a winner in this election. harris: you know, charlie, i saw it kind of a different way. mr. clinton has an opportunity to tack to the middle for hillary clinton, his wife, without her actually having to do it! >> meaning that -- harris: was this a trial balloon or this on purpose? he is pretty deft at this. >> that is interesting. maybe that is what he was doing. the other problem here is, agree with you, rachel, he does feel,

he feels people's pain. so he obviously is going to say something like that but. the problem for, the other problem with it is, it underscores just how different hillary clinton is from bill clinton as a campaigner. she doesn't feel anybody's pain. so, when he goes off script. the other thing that i, is worth remembering is, let's not forget in 2008 he was going off script like crazy during that primary in south carolina. we develop could have, you could make the argument that he tanked her there. what is that about? what is the undercurrent -- harris: did he allow her to have it both kay ways, meghan? >> i different it a different way. he is not the same bill clinton he was in the '90s, even if he is making push for more moderate democrats despite what bernie sanders and president obama think.

there are a lot of emdemocrats unhappy with obamacare. this is not media to do it in front of a stage with a massive group of people. i'm of the mind set he is trying to subconsciously harm his wife's candidacy. this is third or fourth time. this is very strange. harris: protect his own legacy at very least? >> basically this cnn piece, exploring whether he is asset or distraction from the campaign sums it up. if she can't manage him on the campaign trail, how will president hillary clinton manage him in the white house? >> wasn't great when donald trump said, can you imagine what happens when he came home that day? we all thought, welcome home. how was your day? >> she will go down in history as first woman president of the united states of america. what does he go down in history for? harris: he was president before. we are tracking that huge and deadly storm. hurricane matthew is barreling toward florida. we could already see at vero beach some very dark skies.

winds are already whipping above levels they normally do this time of year on windy day. the storm is definitely about to arrive in the next few hours. forecasters are saying it could leave severe damage along the southeast coast. it will sit in the vicinity for 60 hours. 60. a monster. category 4. new questions about the influence hollywood may have on the presidential election. a number of celebrities are coming out in support of hillary clinton. i don't know if that is breaking news. but will voters listen to these celebs? do they ever? we'll talk. (announcer vo) when you have type 2 diabetes,

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governor scott, could have us see the largest evacuations ever in the state of florida. it potentially is unprecedented the damage that it could do as it moves in as a category 4. we know it killed people in the caribbean. it got smaller. and now it is getting bigger and graining strength and speed as it moves towards the united states, moves on in. the governor activated additional 1000 national guard members. that will bring the total to 2500 to help with evacuations for people yet to leave and get people to shelters next few hours. this thing is coming. he says if you go out in the storm, at the height of the storm it can kill you. we're keeping our eye on it as it happens. hurricane mat you thousand. the -- matthew. >> growing questions about the influence hollywood could have on the 2016 race as numerous celebrities are urging americans to vote and make their preference clear. stars like robert downey, jr.,

don cheadle, martin sheen appearing in a recent video with this message. >> on tuesday, november 8th this country will make one of the most important -- >> the most important. >> the most important decisions in it is history. >> a racist, abusive coward who could permanently damage the fabric of our society. >> we can not pretend both sides are equally unfavorable. >> another group of actors teaming up with the clinton campaign. they're out with this. >> the violence and nasty rhetoric against man behind is unacceptable. >> if trump gets into office -- >> it will only get worse. >> this video featuring celebrities like ann hathaway and leonardo dicaprio urging americans to vote for a candidate with progressive values. >> you have to suck it up and do it. that is what it means to be american. >> get out there and register now. >> if you care about your future vote. >> ridiculous. [laughter]. sorry. i can't sit through this.

let's look at this with young people. do you think this is effective with young people? do these stars have credibility with them? >> if young people only cared about hollywood celebrities no republican would ever get elected to anything ever. hollywood hysteria over donald trump i find entertaining. god forbid buck the trend and speaking for anti-establishment republicans across the country. my biggest problem with this is, people in hollywood, i lived in los angeles a year-and-a-half, they think i know better to be. working class american, you may live average life and making minimum wage, let me tell you what is bless for you. sandra: what did ann hathaway mean, suck it up. harris: because they don't like her. >> don't you think this sort of reinforces, when you get the media lining up behind her, elites, hollywood elites, wall street?

doesn't this just reinforce trump's message that it is all these guys against you? i'm the rich guy. the only one who gets you? >> they invented elitism. anytime you have these masters of illusion and fantasy world coming out telling us, oh, this is how you're going to fix the real world, get out of here. i think people think it is ridiculous. harris: why don't they just tell people to vote? that is crisis point we have in this country. people sit home. they sit it out. if they don't like what's happening, they don't go in go like this. they just don't. one. reasons why gary johnson, even though, i feel so bad for him, don't know about aleppo, but still he is still getting a percentage when you look at four-way race totals in average polling across the country. because people are, they're not really feeling great about either candidate. so tell them to vote. exercise their right. make some choices. sandra: the question is whether or not they have an effect on young people and their vote, i think absolutely because there are a lot of young people who, this is all they pay attention

to, "us" magazine, "us weekly," "people" magazine. they look at on facebook, social media. they listen to what the celebrities have to say, despite what the policies are or know what they are. leonardo dicaprio, he is big climate change guy. flies around in private jet all over the world to pass along his climate change message and lives in his mansions. harris: he flies on air, right? he is not using fuel. >> biggest load of hypocrites, biggest load of hypocrites are hollywood -- sandra: now meghan so worked up. >> i find it offensive. harris: ann hathaway said suck it up, vote for hillary clinton. >> stop watching her terrible movies. harris: a smidge more than four weeks until election day but hurricane matthew is threatening to overshadow the race, everything in the news cycle as it barrels closer to the united states with potential devastation. the storm is already causing

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in the battleground states of florida and north carolina, there are now questions about its potential impact on the 2016 race. a short time ago hillary clinton campaign spokesman saying they are now asking stations in florida to delay airing their ads on the weather channel until after the storm passes. they had originally spent tens of thousands of dollars of ads there reportedly to coincide with storm. clinton spokesman said ads accounted for 1% of spending. this after a month donald trump seemed to politically outmaneuvered clinton touring parts of louisiana devastating by flooding. clinton did not because she said officials asked her to stay away until the situation was stablized. is it gauche to put ads on the weather channel. >> i don't get the big deal. the big deal is simply ignore a place devastated by one of these things, special legs i

underscores this idea that, that hillary clinton is out of touch and doesn't really get what people are going through. >> what do you think the impact the storm could be on the election? >> that i don't know. i want to add something, i don't think it is gauche. i think it is politically savvy to go where viewers are going to be. i think what matters is how they respond. in the last louisiana thing donald looked strong. she looked weak and frankly the president looked weak. he hadn't even gone out there. so he jumped them on that. this is opportunity for him or her, to come out and sound like they're strong and empa threat tick. i think at the town hall will be a chance to address the situation. it is on the forefront. sandra: clearly her camp decided it didn't look so good. they decided to pull the ads. this is some. criticism they were receiving before they made the announcement. this is spokesperson for former florida governor jeb bush, she tweeted this is colossally huge and unforced error by the

clinton camp. insensitive and will piss off floridians. that was some of the criticism out there. for them to pull the ads they're acknowledging maybe it looked a little insensitive. >> it means they're poll testing anything? harris: i don't think they acknowledged it was insensitive. think i a poll may have told them it was insensitive. whatever. i guess in terms of this, when you up stage a presidential candidate and a president who reportedly was golfing when the enormous amount of water fell on baton rouge, louisiana, you do get this i think reaction. when the next thing happens we don't want to be standing holding the bag and looking like we don't care but to plan for an event that hasn't happened yet, unless you're in a evacuation zone may make you look like you're overreaching. you get what sandra was talking about, the pullback. then there comes, was it genuine or not? it is just the dog chasing its tail at that point.

>> if donald trump had done that he would not be pulling ads. he would double down on it. harris: because it would have come arguably maybe not polled place? i don't know. we don't know for certain. just history tells us when you see campaigns do this sort of thing. i want to ask you though, because your dad, the summer leading up to, correct me if i'm wrong, with the election, we had a lot going on in the country and pulled back on a weekend and said i will focus on the financial mess this country is. he got a lot of credit. >> canceled the first day 1/2 of the convention because there was hurricane. instead they folk conducted on your -- focused on cleanup. harris: it was postively seen. >> both candidates have to take it seriously, go down there, god forbid we don't know what happened. as rachel pointed out donald trump has done a better job. hillary clinton can't go down there with giant group of people with huma standing behind her

with hand sanitizer look like she doesn't know what is going on. i'm sorry, i have no more patience for it. we will of course continue to track the hurricane and bring you latest on the huge storm as it speeds towards the southeast coast. you can run an errand. (music playing) ♪ push it real good... (announcer vo) or you can take a joyride. bye bye, errands, we sing out loud here. siriusxm. road happy.

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may merge with hurricane matthew. >> without a doubt they will. good to see you. harris: we'll stay here for "outnumbered overtime," ot, baby. he loves when i do that. overtime tab or facebook live. "happening now" now.