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be sure to tune in tomorrow for a fascinating presidential debate. and we will see you next week on sunday next week. >> yeah, yeah. welcome back to the campus of washington university in st. louis, missouri. we are less than 24 hours out from the second presidential debate. this one even more crucial for the struggling trump campaign following that potentially disastrous audio leak that has a growing number of republicans calling for trump to quit the race. i'm shannon bream. this is a special edition of "fox reports." trump spent his day saturday in full-on damage control trying to recover from the release of an 11-year-old audio recording in which he makes vulgar comments about women. here's a portion. >> i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. like a magnet.
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i don't even wait. and when you're a star they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. do any of that. >> trump turned to twitter to address his critics and supporters, blasting out this. "the media and establishment want me out of the race so badly. i will never," all caps, "drop out of the race. will never let down my supporters." hillary clinton's dealing with her own fallout heading into the debate. after wikileaks dumped another round of damning documents last night. we have team coverage tonight. exactly one month away from election day. jennifer griffin is here in st. louis. but we begin with chief political correspondent carl cameron in new york city. hi, carl. >> reporter: hi, shannon. the last 24 hours have been the most tumultuous of donald trump's entire presidential campaign. those tapes have caused republicans across the country to denounce him. some saying that he should let mike pence be on the ticket. and the next 24 hours are likely to be just as tumultuous, with tomorrow night and the debate in
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st. louis against hillary clinton where questions about this entire episode are sure to come up. donald trump says he will never withdraw from the race, and amid gop demands that he quit told the "washington post" "they're not going to make me quit and they can't make me quit." he told the washington journal, "there's zero chance i'll quit and the support i'm getting is unbelievable." house speaker paul ryan disinvited trump to wisconsin's fall fest today after hearing the 11-year-old tape of trump boasting his fame allowed him to grope women without con sentd or warning. running mate mike pence who said he found trump's remarks horrifying was scheduled at the last minute to go in trump's place today but he canceled this morning too. ryan said he was "sickened" by trump's vulgar description of his conquests. trump aides believe the clinton campaign found and released the tape as part of their opposition research. >> when you're a star you can do it. ugh do anything.
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grab them by the [ bleep ]. i'm automatically attracted to beautiful women. i just start kissing them like a magnet. i don't even wait. >> trump aides believe the clinton campaign has more bombs to drop. the only republican woman in this year's gop presidential primary is carly fiorina, issued a statement saying "donald trump does not represent me or my party." the republican national committee chairman reince priebus said, "no woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner. ever." even in florida, struggling in the aftermath of hurricane matthew, the republican governor had to deal with trump's lewd statements. >> i don't know why he would say things like that. i think it's absolutely wrong. >> reporter: u.s. senator john thune a member of the republican leadership on capitol hill tweeted "donald trump should withdraw and mike pence should be our nominee effective immediately." conservative republican senator ben sass of nebraska, a former christian college president, made his pitch for pence to take over. "character matters. @real donald trump is obviously not going to win but he can still make an honorable move. step aside and let mike pence
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try." but nationwide ballots with trump's name have already been printed and forcing him out would be virtually impossible. pence has made no public comments about replacing trump and trump insiders say pence remains on the ticket. he issued a statement saying "i do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them. i'm grateful that he's can expressed remorse and apologized to the american people." with a critically important town hall-style debate tomorrow in st. louis, trump tried to put out the firestorm first with a brief statement apologizing if anyone was offended. then added a video released overnight as outrage spread. >> anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am. i said it. i was wrong. and i apologize. i've said some foolish things. but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clinton has actually abused women, and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed, and intimidated his victims. >> former rivals chimed in aggressively. florida senator marco rubio, who's endorsed trump tweeted
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"donald's comments were vulgar, egregious, and impossible to justify. no one should ever talk about any woman in those terms, even in private." and trump's democratic rivals are also pouncing. >> any republican who has said they are for donald trump, they need to be asked by the press and others and by constituents right now, do you still think he's qualified to be president of the united states? do you still think he is? >> reporter: the trump campaign believes that hillary clinton's campaign is behind the leak of this video, and they suspect that there will be more. in the meantime, the republican party has made the decision to halt a number of direct mail message pieces that were going to be going out across the country saying that they're going to have to slow down and see what happens. there's a report tonight in the "wall street journal" that the republican party in its victory fund, a joint fund between the rnc and donald trump, will begin spending money only on down ballot candidates, meaning house and senate members.
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sean spicer, the senior adviser and strategist for the republican national committee, says that is absolutely not true. what is true is that tomorrow night's debate has the potential to be tremendously and if trump is contrite and manages somehow to begin to put this episode behind him, he can continue on and potentially be competitive throughout. but republicans across the country think that if he doesn't do well tomorrow night a lot of really tough decisions might have to be made next week. shannon? >> millions will be watching. carl cam, we thank you very much. he is traveling with the trump campaign. thanks, carl. well, hillary clinton spending today off the campaign trail, but a very busy saturday nonetheless between debate prep and seizing on donald trump's latest controversy. the clinton camp had its own spinning to do following another wikileaks e-mail dump. jennifer griffin has the story right here in st. louis. ♪ >> reporter: the clinton campaign is not saying whether or not the new e-mails released by wikileaks are authentic.
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they're quoting members of the intelligence community who say that it is possible that whoever hacked into the e-mails could have all the querd some of them to make them more damaging, calling it a sophisticated russian disinformation campaign. "it should concern every american that russia is willing to engage in such hostile acts in order to help donald trump become president of the united states." the e-mails released late yesterday include thousands of campaign e-mails apparently sent by chairman john podesta that reveal the inner workings of the clinton campaign and contain potentially damaging excerpts from clinton's wall street speeches. one excerpt from a speech given to goldman sachs in 2014 has the header, "clinton admits she is out of touch." "obviously i'm kind of far removed because the life i've lived and the xlieconomic, you know, fortunes that my husband and i enjoy. but i haven't forgotten it." the speech excerpts also delve into her support for a single payer health care system like the one in canada.
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she also expressed praise for trade deals and open borders. clinton spokesman glenn kaplan said in a statement, "earlier today the u.s. government removed any reasonable doubt that the kremlin has weaponized wikileaks to meddle in our election and benefit donald trump's candidacy." donald trump tried to use the leaked e-mails to divert attention from his hot mike moment. "hillary clinton's secret wall street speeches prove what we have known all along, that clinton is a self-serving washington insider who has continued to deceive the american people for 30 years." clinton spokesman brian fallon criticized the media for playing into the hands of the russians by publishing the mails. "striking how quickly concern about russia's masterminding of illegal hacks gave way to digging through fruits of hack. just like russia wanted," he wrote on twitter. another discovery, comments she made about the transpacific partnership trade deal p "my dream is a hemispheric common
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market. smt future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere." clinton told a brazilian bank in 2013. she added, "we have to resist protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access." rnc chairman reince priebus issued a statement. "the truth that has been exposed here is that the persona hillary clinton has adopted for her campaign is a complete and utter fraud. how can bernie sanders and many like-minded democrats continue to support her candidacy in light of these revelations?" the clinton campaign was expecting an october surprise. they just thought it would be coming from julian assange and from the russians perhaps. they did not, however, shannon, expect this sort of gift on the eve of the debate. >> what has been the reaction so far? it's not been out there for long. but there's debate in the meantime. i mean, there's a lot going on in clinton world. >> well, they have been absolutely mum since this happened. you had tim kaine, her running mate, in nevada yesterday. he did make a statement.
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he said it sickened him. and he called on republicans to distance themselves from trump. but the clinton campaign and clinton herself have been absolutely silent. and that is by design, we're told, by a senior aide to clinton. in fact, they have told their surrogates not to go out there. they don't want to get in the way of this narrative. they feel let this play out for the next 24 hours until the debate, and then we'll hear from hillary clinton herself at the debate. so all eyes really will be on the debate. and they want that moment because they know how many people will be watching and the anticipation they figure there's another news cycle where people would be talking about donald trump's hot mike moment. >> how is she preparing for this debate? any differently than last? >> well, hillary clinton likes to prepare, as we know. she usually spends four full days in advance of a debate. and we were told today that she spent a full eight hours at the hotel where she's been prepping in ryebrook, new york.
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from about noon and she left about 8:00 tonight. this is a little bit different because it's a town hall format. but certainly they are going after every possible answer. they expect they'll get some tough questions themselves. and remember, during that commander in chief forum she did have some trouble with some questions from the audience about her e-mails. so they certainly will be prepared for that. but i would say they are gleeful right now at the opportunity to address this audiotape because women voters, remember shannon, are going to be the key to this election. in places like pennsylvania, the philadelphia suburbs, women voters are the key in a lot of swing states. >> and the town halls are so different too because you're getting real people asking real questions. i know we can't wait. it's great to see you in person. you're doing a great job. >> thank you. >> do not forget, tune in tomorrow to fox news sunday in the morning. our own chris wallace sits down with trump adviser rudy giuliani. chris also has an exclusive interview with the clinton campaign chairman john podesta. his e-mails among those
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wikileaks say they got. check out your local listings. you don't want to miss it. and be sure of course to keep it right here on the fox news channel. tomorrow you can watch all of the predebate information. our coverage and the detabate o course at 9:00 p.m. eastern. fox news weather alert. hurricane matthew weakening tonight but local leaders are warning everyone the threat is far from over. we're getting reports of at least ten deaths in three different states. florida and georgia now cleaning up as the carolinas cope with the devastating flooding. they've already had trouble with this in recent weeks. steve harrigan is live in north carolina to give us an update. >> reporter: the back side of this storm is leaving where i am in wilmington, north carolina but with it some heavy gusts of wind at times more than 80 miles per hour. also kick up some 15-foot waves. the death toll across four states now has reached 11, and three of those here in north carolina. as we see some transformers blow
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out behind me. the death toll here in north carolina has come from people out on the road. we've still seen a number of people out despite warnings. one of those deaths from a car hydroplaning on water on the road. the others came from submerged vehicles. we saw more than 40 water rescues today here in the state of north carolina. in fayetteville one woman with a young child was rescued by first responders from about five feet of water. both mother and child now doing well. what's next here after this wind will finally die down could be several days of flooding. the storm has dumped 15 inches of rain on coastal north carolina. so we could see rivers swell beyond their banks over the next day or two. also officials are warning about the integrity of roads including some major roads could be compromised, adding to the severe damage which is already estimated to total more than $6 billion. shannon, back to you. >> all right. steve harrigan live for us on the scene there in north
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carolina. so where is the storm heading next? rick reichmuth has more from the fox extreme weather center right now. hey, rick. >> shannon, it's hard to believe how long we've been talking about matthew. started as a wave off the coast of africa, pulled across the atlantic, in across the caribbean, became a category 5 storm just north of columbia, made a little bit of landfall across cuba and haiti causing all the damage and the death toll especially in haiti. and finally made landfall in the u.s. across parts of south carolina. getting ready to move off the shore. but before it does we have a long ways to go. very significant amount of rain that is going to continue to fall. it will pull offshore eventually, but that is not going to happen until about tomorrow afternoon. so because of that we still have a very long night ahead of us, especially into south carolina. rainfall rates are going up even though the storm is weakening at least in its wind intensity. we've seen rainfall totals around a foot in savannah. but you see even higher across parts of south carolina and north carolina. and a lot more rain to be had. because of that all the flooding concerns going on. flash flooding going on across a
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good part of the state of north carolina, stretching in toward virginia as well. and we're going to see the rain continue to fall in across parts of delmarva, push a lot of surge even toward that area as well as part of the outer banks. the storm is off the shore of south carolina but we're watching it kind of interact with a cold front that is going to push it out of here eventually. but what happens in the meantime is that rings a lot of that moisture out. you'll notice it's gone by midday tomorrow. still breezy conditions but at least the rain is over. that doesn't mean the flooding will be gone. all this rain has to go somewhere. so the smaller streams will lead into some of the bigger rivers here in north carolina and cause major flooding. and we still have a lot of rain to be had. take a look at this. we're going to see some spots. there's kind of a feeder band that is lining up here across the outer banks. and as that band lines up and we're pretty confident kind of in this being the scope of it, a lot of areas maybe in the six to ten-inch range of additional rainfall. some spots maybe a little bit more than that. so the flooding throughout the overnight hours and the start of the day on sunday is going to be
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extreme. especially across parts of inland north carolina. shannon? >> all right. thank you very much, rick. right now a manhunt under way in california after a deadly attack on police officers. will carr is live from our west coast newsroom with the very latest story. will, what can you tell us about what happened? >> reporter: well, shannon thorkts te authorities tell us tonight they are actively looking for a cop killer in palm springs. they say they do have a home surrounded right now but they admit they're not even sure the gunman is inside of that home. this all started this afternoon when they received a domestic disturbance call. officers went to a house about five minutes north of the heart of downtown palm springs, and they went to the front door. that's when they say the man ended up unloading on these officers. now, this is very close to the police headquarters there. so officers swarmed the scene and that house where the shooting took place and it turned into some sort of
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s.w.a.t. standoff that continues to go on. witnesses tell us that they witnessed emts in the streets trying to save the officers. all three were rushed to a local hospital where the two, one man and one woman, were pronounced dead. >> i am awake in a nightmare right now. that's me. but you know what, as the chief of police i have to step forward and stay focused and i've got some very qualified managers here that will take a bunch of aspects of this investigation and we will press forward. >> reporter: members of law enforcement say they're still not 100% sure that the gunman is actually inside of the home right now. they're asking for residents in palm springs to stay inside of their homes with the doors locked. shannon. >> will, what can you tell us about the officers who lost their lives today? >> reporter: well, both officers were both parents. we'll start with the first. 27-year-old leslie zaredny.
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she'd been with the police department for a year and a half. she just returned from maternity leave. we're told she has a four-month-old baby girl. then there's officer jose vega. he goes by gil. he was a father of eight. 63 years old. he was a 35-year veteran of the palm springs police department and he was set to do -- to retire in december. he'd already turned his paperwork in. >> today palm springs lost two brave officers. they go out every day and put their boots on the ground for everybody in this community. >> reporter: we're told the third officer who was shot is doing okay and is alert tonight. shannon. >> just a reminder of the sacrifices these people and their families make every single day. will, thank you. well, the list of republicans distancing themselves from donald trump is growing tonight.
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house speaker paul ryan is one of them. it's fueled by concern that trump could sink other gop candidates on the ballot next month. that story is up next. and the debate countdown is on. our panel weighs in on the dos and don'ts for clinton and trum tomorrow night. on a night that has just gotten a whole lot more important and interesting for both candidates.
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as the trump campaign tries to recover from that audio leak, more republicans are distancing themselves from their nominee. for many a growing concern tonight that trump's name atop the ticket could hurt down-ballot republicans. steve doocy was in alcorn, wisconsin earlier today where trump was supposed to campaign with house speaker paul ryan.
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>> reporter: republicans in tight races are on the run from trump. calculating that they'll stand a better chance in november if they aren't aligned with their own party's nominee. in illinois senator mark kirk says that "djt is a malignant clown, unprepared and unfit to be president of the united states." in wisconsin senator ron johnson says that "donald trump's recent comments are completely indefensible and i refuse to even attempt to try do so." and in new hampshire senator kelly ayotte says that "i will not be voting for donald trump or hillary clinton and instead will be writing in governor pence for president on election day." on capitol hill republican strategists are reportedly now nervous about down-ballot races. >> things are looking worse right now for republicans to hold the senate. just a couple of days ago it was looking very positive. and when you have a big curveball like this arrive nobody can quite read the way it's going to go. >> reporter: other experts say this is a two-way street and the down-ballot candidates can damage trump the same way he can
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damage them. >> this could be the thing that pushes people over the edge, especially if you have a lot of high-level republicans signaling enough is enough. >> reporter: but what do people think outside the beltway? this afternoon at the wisconsin event trump was uninvited from and pence backed out of women in the crowd told us they do not think it's helpful for republican lawmakers to back away from donald trump. >> they're just trying to gain from it. i feel they're just -- we should be all together. we're all for the same thing, you know, stopping isis, closing our borders, getting rid of our debt. >> i can understand what they're doing because it is -- was pretty awful. but that was 11 years ago and i think they should go behind trump and stand behind him. >> it's bad for the party. it doesn't show us as a united republican party. and they should really be standing behind trump right now. >> reporter: here at speaker of the house paul ryan's fall fest ryan, the governor scott walker and senator ron johnson were all interrupted at random times by trump supporters screaming trump's name, saying "we want
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trump." things did stay mostly civil but parts of the party here in wisconsin do appear to be divided. shannon? >> our thanks to peter doocy. we're going to talk about all of this with our panel right after the break. plus the clock is ticking down to 9:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow night. donald trump heading into the debate already in damage control and playing defense. can he reset the race a month out from election day? y. i'm here in bristol, virginia.
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switch your business to sprint and save 50% on most current verizon, at&t and t-mobile rates. don't let a 1% difference cost you twice as much. whoooo! for people with hearing loss, visit sprintrelay.com. donald trump standing firm today saying there is zero chance he will quit the race for the white house. that comes amid a growing number of calls from republican lawmakers for him to step aside. after 2005 video surfaced of the presidential nominee making lewd comments about women. let's bring in our panel to talk about it. steve hayes, a senior writer for the weekly standard. dr. gina louden is the host of american trends with dr. gina. tom bevin is the real clear politics co-founder and publisher. and rick grinnell is the former u.s. spokesman to the united nations. i want to start, guys, by playing robert jeffries. he is a very prominent pastor. he is on trump's faith advisory council. it sounds like evangelicals are going to stick together. here's what dr. jeffries had to say. >> it's probably true there are other things from his past that will come out as well.
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but i think what he can do is say i'm ashamed of what i've said, it doesn't represent who i am, and i'm a changed person and i will never exhibit this behavior from this point on. >> rick, i've heard from other evangelical leaders who say, listen, if our choices are him and hillary we've never been choosing him to be a church leader, we're voting for him as president of the united states. i know you think to those comments that he hasn't given a genuine enough apology yet. do we see it tomorrow night? >> maybe. but i am hoping that he does it before tomorrow night. i'm hoping that he has his moment where he can be authentic. pastor jeffress is right. there are evangelicals, christians in general that absolutely want to forgive him because they're looking at the choices between hillary and donald trump. they want to go there. and donald trump has got to make it easier for them. he's got to show that he is really apologetic, that this was a moment 11 years ago and it's never going to happen again as jeffress said. >> he says that he has changed over time.
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and over this campaign. and become a different person. here's a bit of what he tweeted out today. one of the main ones, of course. "the media and establishment want me out of the race so badly." all caps 37, "i will never dropt of the race, never let my supporters down, #make america great again." he's not going anywhere. but there's a lot of chatter about how you can get him off the ticket. >> there's a lot. at this point donald trump really only has two choices. when your campaign manager does not want to go on tv to defend you -- >> you're referring to kellyanne conway, who's going to do some of the sunday shows tomorrow. she's being replaced by rudy giuliani. we don't know why. >> reince priebus also backed out and rudy giuliani the lone surrogate now. trump has two options. one is to sort of pull the plug, which he clearly intends not to do. and the other is to go to war and go to war against bill, against hillary, and against the republican party. and that seems to be where things are headed given some of the indications of the things we've seen and read.
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and that is going to make for a very interesting debate tomorrow night and next 30 days leading to the election. >> absolutely will. dr. gina, we've seen all kinds of different sides of him. but it does look like the fightering is s. going to be the one showing up and stick around. he says he's not going anywhere. how does he find the nuance to work with holding on to the people that he had where he still has a deficit of trying to win over people who've yet to make up their minds? >> i think that just being super honest and transparent like mr. trump has been from the beginning. he never claimed to be a pastor. he never claimed to be a role model. he's admitted who he is from the beginning. so i think sticking with that course of action is the best for him. and i think media perhaps needs to turn a little bit of attention possibly to hillary clinton and some of the things that she's done that she hasn't apologized. there seems to be just a different media standard for the two candidates. and i think they also have to put this in perspective because by tomorrow night this isn't what we're going to be talking about. this will be old news. this is something that happened. and i also think there will be continued releases.
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every single time hillary clinton knows another e-mail dump is coming they're going to release something like this. people are going to have to decide what it is they want because this is a binary choice. >> and steve, this is what we're hearing about all through the primaries, that listen, there are things that are going to be detrimental to trump, that they're being held by major media outlets so they can use them in the general election. and we keep hearing from all different sources there is more to come. how does he fight back? >> yeah. one of the producers of "the apprentice" said that you think that what you've seen so far is bad, wait until you see what's coming. and there are all sorts of rumors circulating today about what that might involve. there are apparently some comments that he made that have something to do with race. we don't know what's coming but it's a good bet that there's something more that's coming. i just disagree respectfully with dr. gina. i can't imagine trump going back to the old trump or trying to be honest and transparent. i just don't think that's the way he's been at all throughout this entire campaign. he can barely get through a paragraph without saying something that's false. that's why he's had to be fact checked so many times. and i understand that there's
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bias in fact checking. but he says things that are false all the time. i don't think it's going to be enough for donald trump to try to remake himself at the debate tomorrow. i just don't understand how anybody could be giving him that advice. he is who he is. i think one of the reasons that this is like we'd heard him is it's not a departure from what we've seen from donald trump over the years. it's consistent with not only comments that he's made throughout the campaign but things that he wrote in his own books years ago when he talked about bagging married women or boasted about his sexual prowess. >> rick, there are plenty of people who think hillary clinton says things all the time that aren't true as well but she's not getting fact checked by the mainstream media the way he is. >> totally. look just on the foreign policy side, which i try to fact check her all the time. constantly. i mean, just in the last debate she talked specifically about china and russia and her role in the iran deal. totally fabricated. was not what happened. for 18 months she didn't do anything and she's now pretending like she was going
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around doing diplomatic meetings. that's not true. but our media is not that interested in fact checking some of the policy stuff because we have an audio tape, a video of donald trump saying some outrageous things. so again, i think the american people will absolutely forgive. but what they have to do is they have to see a contrite donald trump. and then they will forgive. this is a choice between two people. and they want -- so many people want to choose the alternative to hillary clinton. >> all right. panel, stick around. we've still got a whole lot more to talk about. next up we're going to talk to the panel about the story that's largely been overshadowed this weekend. wikileaks posting what it says are thousands of e-mails connected to the clinton campaign, including what the group says are excerpts from all of the speeches that hillary clinton gave to wall street and others. we'll have a lot more with the panel on that. next. my insurance rates are probably gonna double.
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another october surprise in the presidential another october surprise in the presidential election wikileaks releasing what it says are hacked e-mails from clinton's campaign chairman reportedly also including excerpts of some of those paid speeches that clinton gave to wall street. let's bring back our panel to talk about it. steve hayes. dr. gina loudon, d. tom bevin and rick grinnell here with us. i want to read what they say is an excerpt from a speech she gave in 2014 about being out of touch with the middle class. these are some of the remarks attributed to her. "we had a middle class upbringing. we had good public schools. we had accessible health care. so i lived that. and now obviously i'm kind of far removed because the life i've lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and i now enjoy." tom, she's got to stay connected with the middle class, with the people. but this speech to a bunch of wall street bankers makes it
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sound like she's living the good life. >> i mean, honestly, of all the things that came out of those e-mails this one is sort of the most innocuous to me. she hasn't driven a car since 1996. this is not something that's revelatory in any way, that she's not connected -- >> she's not living like the rest of us. >> exactly. the other stuff, though, i think is very consequential and would be more consequential if it hadn't been overshadowed dramatically by all the trump stuff that's gone on. >> and gina, we talked earlier about one of the things where she talked about having a public and a private message that are different because she has to play all sides. is that just what politicians do or does it expose something new we did know about her? >> i always go back to the psychology because that's my background. and i just can't get past the fact that she literally is admitting to her voters that she doesn't think they're smart enough, she doesn't think they're smart enough, shannon, to connect the dots and know that she is lying to them. that would be so insulting to so many voters across the country, i would think anyway. but maybe they just see it as a continuation as you pointed out earlier, steve, that she has a
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30-year record of corruption and crime and so maybe people are more used to it than they are with mr. trump. >> i want to play a little bit of what the gop's vice presidential nominee mike pence had to say. i believe this is yesterday in ohio. about how this plays and how the media handled it. here's what he had to say. >> it really is amazing since i joined this campaign. i joined this campaign, it's just about been two on one with the media doing half of hillary clinton's work for her every day. do you ever notice that? it seems like the more information comes out there's wikileaks released a whole new batch of e-mails today for your weekend enjoyment. >> steve, fair to say that the media is doing a two on one, doing hillary clinton's work for her? >> well, certainly the media has served as an amplifier for the arguments that hillary clinton has made against donald trump. now, i would argue that donald trump has made their job pretty easy by saying things it makes it easy to amplify. i don't know what tom is talking about frankly. he says we've known for a long time that hillary clinton was
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wealthy and out of touch. it's news to her because remember, she said she was dead broke in 2000. i mean, this is news to her. i think to go back to the media question i think if you look at the way that the media have focused on donald trump and not reported deeply the kinds of things that they would report of course if hillary clinton were a republican, there's absolutely no question there's a double standard. but as i say, i think donald trump has made their job pretty easy. >> does this hurt her at all? she's been out there trying to get millennials -- the millennials don't like trump or clinton. they're not pulling -- neither of the primary candidates are polling well with that group. she's also had to try to pull in the bernie supporters. many of them are younger. and it seems like they do not buy what she's selling. when they hear these things where she's talking about cozying up to wall street. listen it's a free country. if she wants to make this money giving these speeches to these groups, fine. i don't think anybody begrudges her that. but if she's saying something different publicly about what her positions are and trying to
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align herself with bernie sanders and that wing of the party, will this resonate with them at all like she wasn't really telling us the truth? >> interesting enough. if you look at research about millennials, the number one thing is that they want authenticity. they really sense it. and they liked bernie not because he was polished but because they believed his message and they thought he was authentic. the irony is that if hillary clinton would actually just own it and say i'm really wealthy, i didn't grow up this way but this is an american success story and because i'm wealthy i'm committed. and if she was authentic about being wealthy i think they could turn it around. but instead her instincts are to be extremely secretive about it and duplicitous. >> the problem with that is the way she's made her money has been a 30-year -- right? it's been sort of confluence of big government, big business, all of those things. she's been a public servant all her life and still ends up with 100, 150 million dollars. that's part of what i think those millennials sort of rebel
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against. >> yeah. i think that's true. except where else is she going to go in she is wealthy. own it. and just be humbly accepting of the fact that you're living the american dream. be grateful. and then talk about other ways that people can get the american dream. >> but she really isn't living the american dream. mr. trump is living the american dream. she's the one who has made this money in public life. and she's not only made it in public life, she's made it many would argue at least in really corrupt ways. she really can't embrace that because she really doesn't have that to embrace. it's not like she ever crate single job, like she ever worked in the private sector. there's just nothing there for her to embrace in terms of the american dream. so she can't relate to that average worker. >> well, you know, there was so much that was made about mitt romney the last time around, creating this evil caricature of this super rich guy that you know, is evil and doesn't care about real people. i mean, how does she embrace that and also look like, you know, she cares about people but she owns the fact, you know,
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steve, that she is wealthy? >> i think it's a hard case for her to go to millennial voters and say you too can make $100,000 on cattle futures. it's not going to work. even though she may be able to do that authentically. i think her bigger challenge is losing millennials not to donald trump but possibly to people wanting to stay home and especially to gary johnson. i mean, gary johnson has done better with millennials. he's done things i think that would be potentially discrediting, but it doesn't seem to have hurt him at least yet. >> we'll see. if they show up on election day. because as we all know third-party voters oftentimes don't show up on election day. the weekend's controversies for both campaigns just raising the stakes for tomorrow's debate even higher. our panel is going to tackle some advice for them. that's next. tomorrow's debate even higher. our panel will have some advice for them, that's next.
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you haven't even heard my catchphrase. i'm all done with this guy. box him up. that's terrible.
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we are now, less than 24 hours away from the second presidential debate here in st. louis. there is a lot at stake. our panel is back to talk about that. dr. gina loudon, tom bevan and rick grinnell. first advice for trump. >> my advice for trump would be that he's stepping down and he's going to have mike pence fill in for the rest of the race so that
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americans can try to beat hillary clinton. >> really what are the odds you think he does that? >> very slim. but you asked for my advice. >> you think she should step down too? >> no. she should say as little as what she can possibly say to get in the way of this republican train wreck. >> the last thing they want him to do is step down because they love him as their candidate to be their opponent tomorrow night and continue on. dr. gina, best advice for trump. >> i think my best advice to him would be to talk a little bit about what dr. jeffress talked about in the beginning of the show, that he has had a spiritual journey. this is a refining process. you put yourself out there like this and you are going to be humbled. my husband has been in politics much of our adult life and i can tell you it is a humbling experience. i think if he talked about that from that emotional side that he could connect even more so with the people that already like him and maybe even earn some appreciation from those who don't. i guess i would offer about the same advice to hillary, just try to be quiet. or if she could ever apologize
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maybe for the things that came out today if they are indeed confirmed and validated to be true. then maybe she should say something in terms of an apology that hey, that was pretty insensitive of me to say to the middle class and to say that i say a different thing on the campaign trail than i'm going to say, you know, to you guys tonight. >> tom? >> i think the first five minutes of this debate are going to be the crucial pivotal moment and trump needs to come up with yes, address it right off the top. he has to come up with a contrite apology and then he has to make his case and say look, are you -- this is the decision the country faces, my bad words versus hillary's actions, try to spin it around on her and be on offense as quickly as it can be and put it to rest. hillary has to stay upright and i think just -- >> not cough. don't start coughing. >> stay upright. and do as much as she can to stay on policy standpoint and leave trump to be trump. >> rick? >> martha raddatz is one of the
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moderators. she is a foreign policy expert. hillary clinton is not going to be able to get away with a lot. so donald trump should take it on foreign policy during this debate. he should talk about the fact that she didn't put poco haram on the terror list. should talk about the disastrous iran deal. because martha raddatz is there to fact-check hillary. and unlike any other moderator she should be able to do it. >> there's this big discussion if he's going to bring up some of bill clinton's alleged infid sxelts other issues and some say beyond that, they're more serious than that. and there's this secondary issue of whether she then try to quiet these women. >> she could talk about what a painful time that was in her marriage. she's alluded to it before. she's done it successfully. i think it would be foolish for trump to bring it up. it would be like punching a wall if your football team doesn't do well. >> don't bring up the affairs.
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>> we're going to go for now but we will be right back. stick around. we've
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that is it for this special hour of "the that's it for this special hour of "the fox report." this saturday, october 8th,
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2016. thank you for watching. we're live on the campus of washington university here in st. louis. we have special shows for you all day tomorrow. join us for the second presidential debates. it sparkles when i'm dancing at the club. here's what's coming up. >> trump versus clinton. this sunday night sequel. the biggest matchup on tv. will it live up to the hype i'm giving it? maybe. have you lost friends because of this election, many americans say they have. so much for that agree to disagree stuff. later, a segment we are calling tie riss at comic con. my muffins are burning and that's not a euphemism.

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