145 miles per hour. now this program notes, stay tuned to fox news channel for coverage the second presidential debate. that's it for today. have a great week and we'll see you next fox news sunday. it's 3:00 on the east coast. 2:00 p.m. here in st. louis where we are counting down to the second presidential debate and we're nervous. if you thought the first debate got heat, tonight we could see, i don't know, armageddon. face-off for the history books. could be the first time we hear from hillary clinton since it caused hundreds of republicans to disavow donald trump. how will he respond on a night that could make or break his campaign? as for secretary clinton, she is facing a controversial leak of her own. what she allegedly told wall street big wigs that goes against what she said in public. and pit falls for candidates in town hall style debate and exactly who are the voters that will ask the questions tonight

and how did they pick them? debate day in the usa. be very afraid. let's get to it. good afternoon from the spin room on this gorgeous campus. this is fox news special coverage continuing on and on as hillary clinton and donald trump get ready to face off in the second presidential debate. washington university is a short drive from downtown st. louis, along the iconic gateway of the mississippi river. we can pretty much guarantee -- that wasn't exactly right but i understand the urgency. none of those match-ups will be anything like tonight. donald trump warning his own party, if you're not with me, i'm moving on without you. republicans have been breaking ranks and dropping support of their own nominee by the dozens. and trump is firing back on the twitter machine as you might imagine. so many self righteous

hypocrites, he writes. watch their poll numbers and elections go down. exclamation. he also tweeted, tremendous support, except for some republican leadership. thank you. in fact more than 40 gop leaders have drawn support for their nominee. 40. nothing like this ever happened. and came after the release of the video from 2005. some of those republicans have called for donald trump to get out of this race now over the vulgar, sexually agregressive a frankly disgusting comments he made. trump used explicit language to say co-get way with kissing and groping women because he is famous. basically he talked about sexual assault. republican nominee has something like apologized but vows there's no chance he is dropping out. in the meantime there is campaign manager poof and be gone. she backed out of her appearances on this morning's sunday shows. rudy giuliani filling in instead. saying it was a quote scheduling

problem that kellyanne conway still supports trump. chris matthews this morning on the the plane here, called rudy giuliani baghdad bob. think about it. giuliani also argues on fox news sunday that trump is a changed man. >> his comments were wrong. they were very wrong and reprehensible and he has said that and he apologized for it and i think that what you're looking at is a man who's gone through 14 months of running for president, understands the weight on his shoulders of all of these people who voted for him, believe in him. >> the chairman of the republican national committee reince priebus also dropped out of the schedule appearance on the cbs. trump staffers told the network they wanted a campaign person to take place instead. reince priebus blasted trump saying no woman should ever be described in those terms or talked about in this manner ever. it is important to note that kellyanne conway and reince priebus were on donald trump's

flight on their way to st. louis. we're also learning from the clinton campaign that hillary clinton has been holding back on responding to this issue. the plan is for her to come out swinging tonight. we'll have much more ahead and our campaign chairman told chris wallace that donald trump needs to explain himself. >> this is who this guy is. and i think that the american people can just hear for themselves in graphic detail which you know i hope every voter actually takes the time to see what is really on that tape. >> and tonight, america will be watching to see how the candidates handle this issue and whether donald trump dw, well, bounce back. we have team fox coverage. jennifer griffin as always covering hillary clinton's campaign. but first carl cameron, covering the campaign in st. louis. as trump put it, it's been an interesting 24 hours. >> and the next 24 could be even

more so. he has an awful lot of hurdles to clear tonight. trump campaign recognizes that. they have been doubling up on efforts to try to get him to stay disciplined in his message. his message should be apologetic, con trite, believable, they would like to see donald trump as a sympathetic figure tonight rather than as a bully and all of those things have to lead him to a clean and decisive victory that can just just hold the holes in the boat and fill them up for the time being. not as they he can turn the me moent um around at this point. he was getting ready to slip in the polls prior tolt release of this video. the outrage of descent of republicans as a consequence of that has got to be stopped. the bleeding has to be tourniqueted. because this is a town hall meeting, because one one of the moderates is a woman, because his opponent a woman and because about half of the audience will be women, he has to persuade them that he has changed.

his aides, his campaign, saying that the time-out on the trail, meeting americans, changed his perspective and attitudes and behavior. but it doesn't take too much of an inspection of the record of the last 14 months to realize he has insulted a lot of people, including women during campaign, not just 11 years ago, shep. >> i guess there are a number of things he could do tonight. he could come out, apologize to his wife and women everywhere. and could do a contrition tour. or he could come out on the attack and bring up stuff about her campaign. do we have an idea about what he's playing. >> it is important that you mention the statement from melania trump his wife. she said that his rhetoric was unacceptable and hoped that other people would accept his apology as she has. it is still an important message for the wife to say that. as for trump's likely counter attacks, he's been telegraphing them now for several days. he hinted before the last debate

that he might go after bill clinton's infidelity. of course in hint thaeg might, he is effectively going after point's infidelity. today he tweeted about juanita broad rick. there is a statement on the breitbart page, and a woman accusing him in rape in the 1977 0s, 1978. she has a new video on breitbart it is worth noting that steve bannon used to be the boss of breitbart. and he tweeted last night, retweeted i should say, two of juanita broad rick's most recent posts. her allegations of rape against bill clinton has never been made proven in court. but were he to go there tonight, the attempt to set things right with women voters across the country could be at very, very high risk. on the other hand, trump is not one to hold a punch when he thinks he has one.

shep? >> carl cameron here at washington university. carl, thank you. and facing her own set of problems as we head into tonight's showdown. wikileaks is back at it. and releasing a batch of what it claims are hacked e-mails that include details from clinton's closed door speech from wall street execs. this is after trump making vulgar comments about women. that's an understatement, but you know what i mean. hacked messages come from the e-mail account of clinton chairman and in some clinton staffers seem to flag force into wall street speeches as possibly problematic for her campaign. in one speech secretary clinton said she is quote kind of far removed from the middle class americans. new york times and others point out clinton's tone and language in the closed-door speeches clash with the more liberal stance in her primary battle with senator sanders. on fox news sunday, rudy giuliani who is a campaign

operative for donald trump called the democratic nominee a liar. >> so we have two hillary clintons. which says we have a person who's a liar because that's what she is. >> but the clinton chair says the campaign speeches were taken out of context. >> what she said on this campaign trail was she will be tough on wall street and that's exactly what she will do. meantime clinton is doing last minute debate prep here in st. louis. ahead of the town hall face off. and jennifer griffin with the latest from campaign clinton. >> hillary clinton has landed here in st. louis. she is at the hotel where she will be prepping more and relaxing we understand. she spent about eight hours at the same hotel near her house in new york prepping yesterday. all day yesterday. going through this town hall format. when she boarded the plane to st. louis from westchester new york today, the pool reporter shouted a question at her and asked her for her response to the trump tapes.

she chose to ignore them as we have been reporting. she will not likely speak about that before tonight. on board, there were more than a dozen of her top advisers. they have to be feeling pretty good about the past 48 hours in terms of the news cycle. they think her wikileaks leaks are paling in comparison to trump's audio tapes. we know that she does have about a dozen top advisers with her and she will not be doing a walk through here as she did in the past at the past debate. now it's safe to say shep that this will be no lincoln douglas debates. those took place in 1858 not far from where we are in st. louis. if you look back in history, the two candidates had breakfast together and then went on to debate for many hours. one notable point about that debate as we were talking about

this morning, steven douglas had a sore throat at the time and went on stage drunk. the real question for hillary clinton is will she shake donald trump's hand when she comes on stage. >> will she just go sit down and not pay any attention to him? what do we know about what her plans are in the aftermath of all of this crazeneiness? >> we don't know a lot about her plan because her campaign kept a distance stance. they have told their surrogates not to talk about it. they want her first remarks on stage standing next to donald trump to be the first remarks. her running mate did weigh in yesterday. here is what he said. >> so if it were locker room banter, it would probably kind of be a little bit of a disqualifier but he is describing things he did which are basically tentment to sexual abuse or sexual assault. >> i think gives a clue of the direction they will be heading.

they are going to say and hillary clinton will say tonight that this is more than just locker room talk. more than just words. this is evidence of behavior of a sexual predator. shepherd? >> jennifer griffin. here at wash-u. thank you. >> donald trump are listing republicans abandoning his candidacy. a little trick that might take time as there are a lot of them. what strategy does he need tonight with the debate? a look at how donald trump is expected to handle the pressure. that's live near washington university near downtown st. louis on a historic campus, on a day for the history books. guess what guys, i switched to sprint. sprint? i'm hearing good things about the network. all the networks are great now. we're talking within a 1% difference in reliability of each other. and, sprint saves you 50% on most current national carrier rates. save money on your phone bill, invest it in your small business. wouldn't you love more customers? i would definitely love some new customers. sprint will help you add customers and cut your costs. switch your business to sprint and save 50%

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well, one of tonight's debate moderators is reporting that one of the first set of questions will be about the donald trump recordings. trump saying he will work hard to defend himself and may go on offense by bing bringing up bill clinton's past if i dell its. what do they need to do to recover from past few days? ken thomas, from the associated press, maybe he is watching and maybe can you help him. what does he need to do? >> i think he needs to show contrition on one hand. he indicated he will go on the attack as well. but the question is, how does he ballet pl jazzing for his actions, showing that he has changed that he has learned from this campaign and that he is a different person? while at the same time going on

the offense and raising bill clinton's past, which he says he will do. >> how will bill clinton's past help him against hillary clinton? can you help us understand? >> he will argue that hillary clinton was one of bill clinton's biggest defenders. that she bullied some of the people involved in the '90s and before. and that basically, this might muddy waters and help him argue that hillary clinton has not been the champion of women that she portrayed herself to be over the years. >> doesn't he on some level, you said contrition. he made the argument that he has already been con trite. he said he apologized. but i wonder if this sort of broad ranging specific and widespread apology, all different kinds of people might change the tone to where this attack thing that we are hearing is coming might be palettable. i know some people advising him

and that sounds more reasonable. you know? >> i think that's possible. depend on how apologetic he is at the top. you have to think that this is going to come up in the first five minutes of the town hall. the other tricky part is that this is a town hall debate. he will hear from regular americans. it is just much more of a challenge for him to be confrontational with regular voters than debate moderator. >> but anderson cooper and martha radis, i would say legendary political reporter in her own right, and trailblazer, i think. she is among the first women to get out there and do this job with the boys, if you will. having her come at him with that question and i would guess that's how they would do it, having her come at him with that question remind me of megyn kelly's fiasco, the last time a woman used his words against him, his exact words, she became this villafide character.

if he did that tonight against martha, that could be deadly. >> it is dangerous territory. i think he has two big audiences here tonight. he has to speak to the american people. but particularly suburban women, married women -- >> suburbs of philadelphia. >> yes. or orlando or washington, d.c. college-educated women who saw this and are very turned off by it. he has to address them and reach them. but he also has to speak to house and senate republicans whole be weighing his response tonight and determine do they continue to do all they can to elect donald trump or do they cut their losses and do they just try to save their majority in the senate? >> and would you suspect that it is shortly after this debate hearing from the likes of above paul ryan and mitch mcconnell because they've been quiet. >> they've been quiet. i would expect we may hear something from them tonight but more likely we will hear

tomorrow because there's a scheduled conference call with house republicans where they will digest how trump does tonight and determine a roadmap for the future. >> it is an interesting night. >> should not be boring. >> no, it shouldn't. thank you. >> thanks, shep. >> hillary clinton is dealing with issues of her own, no doubt. and if this was a different election year the wikileaks story would probably dominate the news right now. her leaked speeches to wall street. apparently a very different side of secretary clinton. really contradicting almost everything she said on the campaign trail about trade and banking. her campaign said the leaked e-mails are not accurate. we will get into that next. we will be back to debate day in usa. but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks.

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well, the leaked trump tape is of course dominating the news. in fact on planes, trains and automobiles lately, every time you see somebody they recognize you, they'll go, what the heck is going on with donald trump? not one person has said to me, hillary clinton has some explaining to do in tonight's debate because wikileaks released claims that her e-mails were hacked from the clinton campaign and they are a mess. they include what appear to be excerpts from paid speeches to wall street. donors. in which they she takes a more friendly tone toward trade and bank regulationes. that's another understatement. laura mek letter is a national report he for wall street journal and is live forness st. louis. a lot more than that. she told them she wants free trade and open everything and she said exactly the opposite of what she says today. >> that's not exactly the opposite. what she says today is she likes some trade deals, doesn't like others. she gives this very nuanced approach and said she has a high bar for them and has a tone that basically says i'm skeptical of these deals. i'm against the trance pacific

partnership even though i once was before it, now i'm against it. she sort of has a skeptical tone is the way i phrase it. and speeches that she gave before she launched her campaign, her tone is very much more pro trade. and it is frankly what a lot of people suspect that where her heart is. is that she is essentially generally speaking supportive of free trade agreement deals. not that she backed every single one but that she is in favor of more liberalized trade. >> an extremely hot topic in the primary what could bernie sanders have done with this? >> well bernie sanders spent months saying she needs release the transcripts. probably because he thought there was something just like in there. he thundered at her for this. if this was released during the primary, it would have been very damaging to her. i don't know if it would have brought her down but it would have been damaging. he could have said, you can't believe her.

she says one thing behind closed doors and another thing on the campaign trail. now in general election, much broader electorate she is appealing to, less damaging and certainly less damaging coming out the same weeks and days as trump's 2005 video. >> it is hardly in theable as a result. at least in most places. you look in the headline of anything, it's not that. but co-make it into something tonight. >> i think he will try. if he is smart, he will try. this is an opportunity for him to say, the heart of his campaign, just like the heart of the sanders campaign is that i'm not an establishment politician. i will change the system. she talks in these, in one of the speeches about the fact you need to have sort of a public position and private position. now in fact that is kind of how politics works. you don't want to tell everybody publicly what your bottom line is or you can't have a negotiation. that's what bothers people. they say one thing to you and something else to other people.

so i think that to the extent that he can turn this into his larger message, which is that she is just playing the game, i'm changing the game. i think that that could be effective for him, if he can break through. >> it is hard to imagine that tomorrow, that's what people remember about tonight. no matter what he does. >> i just don't think so. i think the video from 2005 hit such a raw nerve for everybody that this is what we are saying and what they are talking about yesterday and tomorrow and who knows how much longer. >> i've been somewhat surprised by the discipline of his opponents, and in that they are just, when there is a high rise burning down, you know, they just are watching it. >> that's what a senior clinton person told me. we're not talking about this right now. we're not bringing hillary clinton out to bring any interviews. there is nothing we can do that would make this any more damaging than what republican party is doing itself. over the weekend, you saw just one prominent republican after the next.

jumping off the trump campaign. and saying they no longer support him. so when you have john mccain making your case, why would you want to get in there and compete for that air time? you know, so they are just going to, i think, try to let this ride. >> well, it's riding. >> indeed. >> nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> wall street journal, corporate cousin of ours. a couple days ago donald trump tried a little softball. you decide. this has not bothered to celebrate candidates but to question them. of all the debates, this is the one that gives the candidates the chance to show us really more of the person rather than the candidate. and there's an art to this. it is a learned thing but there's an art here. and both clinton and trump will have challenges this evening. plus tom bevin, co-founder of real politics.com, what the polsters will look for.

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trump. here is what we know about tonight. donald trump will most likely get asked about his vulgar, and that's an understatement, i don't know how better to put that, is talk of sexual assault regarding women. and hillary clinton will be ready to answer for her wikileaks data dump no doubt. what we don't know is how they come across in a very different setting than the first debate at hofstra on long island. there are no podiums here. no moderator questions they've done in advance. this is supposed to be about the people. instead clinton and trump will answer to quote "real voters." this is something the campaign manager said she is familiar with and she enjoys. as her campaign would put it, she's had some very real moments in these town halls that served her well in past cycles. donald trump have any experience in this type format. he did have some softball kind last week in new hampshire.

how does this town hall pour mat work exactly? >> you have two moderators, shep, and 40 audience members joining the candidates on stage tonight. as you say, it'll be the people's debate. that's what they like to say here at washington university. you have a town meeting format where there are half the questions coming from audience members. other half coming in from the outside via social media and moderators, anderson cooper and martha raddatz can follow up which could be an important component to what happens tonight. and there is a clock. donald trump was thought, under a lot of people's mind, to be practicing for tonight's town hall. one thing went over before was the two-minute clock. and hillary clinton will start. that's decided by coin flip. you see the two chairs up there. see where the moderators will be. audience members will join them up there as well. i think is important in terms of the format tonight, audience members had until this morning, until sunday morning to submit their questions.

that's means anything in the news from the trump tapes to the clinton wall street speeches, you name it, it is up for debate tonight. it could come up because the questions had to be submit bid this morning. who is called on, the order they are called on, that is up to martha raddatz and anderson cooper at washington university tonight. >> always such a pleasure to come here. been here for a couple of debates before. man, what a beautiful university. fill folks in on this place. >> it is interesting. because they've had more debates here than anywhere else, right? five debates at washington university in st. louis. people say why is that? it goes back to 1992 which is interesting because at the very last minute the commission decided in 1992 for the bush/clinton/pe row debate and they gave washington university a week to get ready. and apparently did a great job because they keep getting asked again. so she called him, he called his brother who is the chancellor

here at the time and you know, the rest is history. came to washington university but it just shows you, you take advantage of that opportunity, right, shep, and do you a good job and they call you again. which they have. >> and i'm glad they have. >> thank you. good to see you. >> how will trump's comments about women and sexual assault translate into poll numbers? our next guest has support for the republican nominee among independent and women voters could continue to erode. you think? let's bring in tom bevin, publisher and co-founder of real politics and realpolitics.com. that's where we get the average for the poll answerss and it is look at how things stand. how do things stand? >> well it is not good for trump, obviously. been a bad 7 to 10 days. he pulled this race almost close to even. a point, point and half. then we saw his position erode.

he lost ground to independents. lost ground among suburban white women. and what happened in the last 24 to 36 hours will continue. and we won't have any poll numbers until probably mid toll end of next week that will give us a first look at how badly he's been damaged. >> and by that you mean like four or five days away from now? >> correct. yeah. >> because if they start the polling in the middle of this, they got get it in, tabulate it and bring it to you. >> right. when you have an event that happens on friday afternoon and debate happening on sunday, it is all mixed together, right? so polsters probably go into the field hopely for us monday so we can have something by thursday or friday to take a look at. >> his hard core supporters, according to most of the poll we looked at, they have been solid and unwaivering. >> they have. and i think that will continue. that's been one constant. whatever the controversy has been, mixed up with male and

female and we have seen anecdotal evidence of female trump supporters, that they are still with him and i suspect they will still stay with him. it is the more moderate left ideological types that don't like clinton, leaning towards trump, maybe taking a step away, this will maybe scare some of those folks off and move into hillary clinton column. i think he needs to keep the gender gap to a minimum. romney won by 5 point and lost the election. trump needs to do at least as well if not better this time around and right now he is losing ground there. >> they had said in their postmortem from the last cycle that they needed to do better with blacks and hispanics. now they realize that didn't go very well. one place where republicans haven't been so solid is evangelical. >> they stuck with him through the most part though there's been a debate within the evangelical about this, a very heated debate.

but this won't step him well with any part of the coalition really. that's why, because of the amount of media coverage it is getting, nonstop. absolutely everybody has heard of it. it will be part of -- part of that coverage and part of what is filtered in, literally, a hundred percent, the way it's been played across the media. it will filter across the demograph demographics. >> he has an opportunity at least to stop the bleeding tonight. this is the it -- this may have more audience than the last one. >> i think the first five or ten minutes is crucial. trump has to, i think, address it head on. right up front. make some sort of con trite sincere apology and try and move past it. and turn the debate back to hillary clinton's record. trump can say look, i said some bad words, i'm sorry. i'm ashamed of that. but are you going to hold my words from 11 years ago against me versus hillary clinton's record of the last 11 years. it has to be something like that. that allows the public, gives

them the space to forgive them if they are willing to forgive that and puts the debate back on the territory that wants it to be on. which is her, not him. >> thank you. >> you bet. >> more coverage ahead. but first, a look at other headlines of the day. hurricane matthew downgraded to post tropical cyclone and moving out to sea. thank you. after killing almost 16 people in the united states. north carolina man, say most victims were there. most victims stranded in their cars or homes because of floodwaters that were predicted. in north carolina, the crisis is not over. >> as the sun rises in north carolina and blue sky returns, our state is facing major destruction and sadly loss of life. >> he said crews rescued almost 900 people from the flooding. police in fayetteville north carolina, about a hundred miles east of charlotte took this video of police rescuing a woman and her toddler from a vehicle,

would you look at this? man. fayetteville is almost -- also about a hundred miles from the coast. the forecast says the area got more than one foot of rain. steve, about 30 miles from fayetteville, how is the situation there now, steve? >> shepherd, it is a lot worse than i thought it would be here. we have a rough ride to get here. as i speak, i am standing here in about four feet of water. about mailbox level height. little subdivision called mayfair. there's about 200 or 300 people still in their houses here. did not get out during the storm. and what we are seeing now are live rescues. seeing people, private citizens with their pickup truckes with boats and canoes that are heading into the houses and two or three at a time. slow-going here. and neighbors helping neighbors. going with their boats. don't know how often this is

repeated. [ inaudible ] >> well steve harrigan's cell phone is breaking up. from these pictures, it is clear. this is from the fayetteville police department. they gave us this video and gosh you look at these first responders and think about all they are doing for the people in their community. truly risking their own lives for them. and for north carolinians least and for others koechbt, this is not over. >> back to the debate preview. first manhunt in palm springs, california. have you heard about this? it ended this morning. they arrested man now suspected of killing two police officers. one officer just back from maternity leave. other headed for retirement. we're live in an update there. plus kennedy joins me here on the set in the spin room where anything can happen. especially when there's a kennedy. we're at washington university. glad to have you with us. you can run an errand.

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what we've now learned things about the man accused of shooting and killing two police officers in palm springs. the cops tell us he's a gang member. he served time for failed murder plan. actually that's from the desert sun newspaper, which cites court records. here he is, john felix. this all happened in palm springs, as you know about a hundred miles east of los angeles. the associated press reporting that shortly before the shooting, the suspect's father told a neighbor that his son was acting crazy and wanted to shoot police. will car picks it up from there. will, officers were going to a domestic disturbance call, right? >> that's right. now they are trying to figure out if he was actually targeting these officers. the neighbors saying that the father said he wanted to shoot cops.

it then led to a 12-hour standoff with the s.w.a.t. team and he wasn't taken into custody easily. the s.w.a.t. team todhad to gase house, forcing felix to exit the back. that's when they saw he had high caliber magazines. he could face the death penalty p. he has also a history of physical altercation with a police officer in the exact same door way where the shooting took place yesterday, shep? >> and new information to us on these two officers, will? >> yeah. absolutely rocked the palm springs police department. both were parent, including leslie, 27 years old. she just returned from maternity leave. she had just come back within the past couple of weeks. she leaves behind a 4-month-old daughter and her husband. >> and to see her laying down,

with her eyes open, and to witness her husband in full riverside county sheriff's uniform, because he is a deputy sheriff, kiss her on the forehead for the last time. it's tough. and we're going to rely on all of you to help pups. >> officers vega also shot and killed. officers of eight. shep, third and fourth officers killed in southern california. on wednesday, sergeant with the los angeles county sheriff's department was shot and killed as well. shep? >> will carr. will, thank you. more debate coverage ahead. a look at how town hall audience members are picked. kennedy's in for that. picking up for kyle. here you go. you wouldn't put up with part of a pizza.

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they decide the moderators. they wanted this town hall style event to be filled with people

who were going to ask questions. undecided voters. so they put gallup to the task of finding voters who were truly uncommitted. they're leaning one way or the other or they're truly undecided and this could be an event that could push them into one or the other camps. and so what they're going to do is they are going to pose questions to the two candidates based on their needs and experience. and they will also be sort of intertwined with questions from martha and anderson. >> anderson cooper and martha raddatz will have the questions in advance. they had tote good them by this morning? >> yes. but they also have 30 participants on stage and 1,000 people in the audience who will be watching and you will have voters directly question the candidates. >> but my point is martha and anderson are going to know what those questions are going to be. >> oh, they know. they control the fate of the political world here in these united states. >> so they're the ones who will decide flow, what order things go in. >> yeah. >> and will there be sometimes in these sorts of debates there's back and forth, like the

regular person might ask a question and then continue the process like a conversation, much like we're doing. >> each candidate will have two minutes. and then there will be a one-minute facilitation period where either martha and anderson can ask a follow-up question or perhaps they will allow one of the voters to follow up and get the satisfactory answer. >> and would these people who are asking questions, the regular st. louis folks, do we get to know who they are? >> i hope so. i hope they release a series of bios and head shots so we get a deeper sense of who's going on on stage. it was do or die for donald trump before the -- >> i'm hearing we may get the names in about an hour, around 5:00. >> and both campaigns have accused the system of being rigged in favor of their opponent. and when that happens, when both camps are complaining i think that you have a better chance of saying -- being even, but you also want to make sure that no one is there tinkering with the main ingredients in the

casserole. >> i hope they don't burn the house down tonight. it feels like we're waiting for an explosion. >> it really does. more so we didn't know what to expect during the first debate at hofstra. >> no clue. >> and there was a great deal of anticipation. but here there is such a new dynamic injected into this debate, what will donald trump say? what will he accuse hillary clinton and her husband of? and there are so many tawdry variables that it will be an even greater experience possibly. >> you have a couple of daughters. lotus and pele. >> didn't call her lois. that's cute. >> i like lotus better. are you going to let them watch stuff like this? >> yes. actually, my sixth-grader is in a social studies class in middle school, and on back to school night i asked her teachers should these students be watching the debates and she said yes, absolutely. so the younger one can't stay up quite that late. she tries. and you know, tomorrow they have the day off from school. but they do watch. they have a lot of questions and they're forming their own

opinions about the candidates. that's a good thing. tonight, however, if it gets too blue then we'll redirect. maybe do a board game. >> a board game sounds good. got to hit one last break. top of the hours headlines just that far away. hang with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (whispers rocket)

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and now, and now we have the debate coming up tonight. i'll be hosting over on the fox broadcast network, your local fox station. bret and megyn will be here. should be quite a thing really. should news break out we'll break in. and it probably will. >> announcer: to the showdown in the show me state. will the gateway to the west lead one of these nominees to the west wing? now, live from washington university in st. louis, missouri "your world" with neil cavuto. welcome, everybody. well, apparently it is tonight. the big debate. the second one. the one that they said was almost an afterthought for a while after that raucous first affair. it's suddenly front and center. all the developments with donald trump and video that has emerged 11 years ago and e-mails that have been dumped on us, democrats say unfairly, about what hillary clinton thought of crucial issues that she might at least be arguing one way in front of campaign audiences