heather: we'll see you back here many an hour. jon: "outnumbered" starts right now. sandra: fox news alert, this is a live look at west palm beach, florida, where donald trump is set to hold a rally for a second straight day as the gop nominee is fighting back against accusations published in "the new york times" that he made unwanted advances on two women in the past. three other women also came forward to make similar accusations. as we look at that podium and await donald trump, this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner, meghan mccain, taw ya kyle and today's #oneluckyguy, we welcome back the former speaker of the

house, newt gingrich. his new book, treason, another of the speaker's gripping international thrillers. it is in bookstores now, and with all due respect, mr. speaker, you are outnumbered. good to have you. >> it's great to be here. and calista was thrilled because she loves the show. harris: you wrought us some books -- >> i should have brought you her new book, it's called hail to the chief, and ellis introduces -- he's the elephant, and he introduced 4-8-year-olds to all the presidents. >> she's in the basilica choir, so we spent all of last week at rome. harris: cup a romantic city. harris: speaker, we want to get your thoughts on a will a lot of things happening. the ugly turn in this

presidential race, lawyers for the republican nominee demanding "the new york times" retract the report this which two women claim he touched them inappropriately. one alleged incident in 2005, the other happening more than 30 years ago. the candidate responding on social media saying, quote: the phony story in the failing new york times is a total fabrication written by the same people as last discredited story on women. watch. and trump's lawyer firing off the letter to the paper say, quote: your article is reckless, defamatory and constitutes libel per se. it is apparent from, among other things, the timing of the article that it is nothing more than a politically motivated effort to defeat mr. trump's candidacy. and this fiery reaction from trump campaign spokeswoman katrina pierson. >> just to answer the question on why would they come out, don, because 15 minutes of fame. you attack donald trump and the tv -- the media puts you on tv to tell your fake story just to

get debunked a few days later. that's exactly what's happening here. this story did not happen. sandra: as you can imagine, hillary clinton's camp wasting no time pouncing saying, quote: this disturbing story sadly fits everything we know about the way donald trump has treated women. these reports suggest that he lied on the debate stage and that the disgusting behavior he bragged about in the tape is more than just words. speaker, where are we at here? without getting into these individual allegations, broadly seeking how is donald trump handling this? >> well, look, i think that -- i have no idea what he will do, because his natural reaction is to counterattack directly on that topic. i think if they would focus on the wikileaks and they would focus on the things we're learning about the secret hillary clinton and focus, for example, on the anti-catholicism -- sandra: but he'll say the problem with that, speaker, is that the media won't cover it. >> that doesn't matter. it gets covered by the act of him saying it.

i mean, he has 27 million people on social media. he has an ability to reach people you can't imagine. harris: good point. >> and you don't want to let the media set your agenda. if you let "the new york times" define the next 27 days, hillary will get elected just by default. sandra: is the trump camp worried right mow? >> i think they're furious, and they have to be worried at one level because there's this steady -- first of all, avoidance of everything that hurts hillary and this steady drum beat of trying to find some way to beat trump. it's the most one-sided news media i can remember in my lifetime. it's amazing how much "the new york times", for example, is totally in the tank. sandra: and, meghan, we were talking about this, are they lacking a concerted effort to target women amidst all of these allegations where they seem to be losing women, and there are still a lot of undecided female voters that are out will. is the trump camp doing enough to speak directly to them?

meghan: there is such hypocrisy with the media right now that they're so fended against these accusations against donald trump but not against bill clinton more decades. already there's a liberal hypocrisy with that. i hate "the new york times." they wrote a parol horrible article about my mother when my father was running that is taught in journalism classes. it's hard to believe them. there are also other publications talking about this, and the narrative i worry about being spun is you have to believe juanita broaddrick and paula jones, but you aren't to believe these accusers? 311% of the vote doing 31% of the voting bloc is single women. my advice are, get aye advantage ca out there, get melania, every woman that really knows this man and can debunk this, get them on tv in as many shows as possible. harris: and that was my question, speaker, is about the surrogates. i know that they have the women for trump, we've interviewed them on fox news channel, and they're led in part by ivanka

trump, so you know you have these strong women's voices, kellyanne conway, you've got these strong women voices that can take this on. it is a lot to ask the public not to believe one set of victims when you've been saying and criticizing hillary clinton for not believing the victims and those who allege that her husband had done things as well, those women. so i'm just wondering about the surrogates. >> first of all, i can't answer that. i don't know why they aren't. i did see kellyanne yesterday doing, she did a case study in taking on the interviewer and not yielding an inch and doing it all while smiling and literally fought her way through the interview. harris: she's good at what she does. >> she's very good. but the other point, and you guys may not agree with this. look, in just one example clinton goes to brazil in a secret speech to a bank that pays her $225,000 and paid bill 400. she says my dream -- dream is a pretty big word -- my dream is of a western hemisphere with

open borders. now, that's 600 million people including the ms13 gangs in el salvador, the drug cartels in mexico, the cocaine dealers in colombia. if my choice was to get in a fight over bill's accusers versus donald's accusers or to say to the country you really want a president who secretly tells the brazilians she wants to open the american border for 600 million people? i think you win the election on big thicks -- harris: but he's not talking about that. >> and that's a mistake on his part. i do not think it's smart for donald trump to get sucked into these kind of personality fights, and he doesn't seem to be able to resist it. he would beat her badly if he would go to the big issues where she is so wrong and where wikileaks -- the secret hillary's worse than the public hillary, and the public hillary was already on the edge of losing. harris: you talked about two donald trumps this morning on fox business. >> right. i think there's a big donald trump as a historic figure. this is the guy who aroused the

republican party, beat 16 other candidates, set a whole new series of national debates the people thought was impossible. but then every once in a while he reverts to this smaller figure who gets sucked into a tight and who says things that make no sense. and i just think that if he could discipline himself to stay big, he would win, he would win this election by a shocking margin. harris headquarters there's more, and i'm going to come to you first, taya. trump's camp is telling bloomberg that new women have come forward with accusations against bill clinton. and the campaign ceo, steve bannon, reportedly laid out the team's strategy to his staffers tuesday saying, quote: this has nothing to do with consensual sexual affairs and infidelities. this is bill, we're going to turn him into bill cosby. he's a violent sexual predator who physically abuses women, who he assaults, and she takes the lead on intimidation of the victims, end quote. team trump is also launching a media blitz with some of the

former president's accusers appearing together on hannity tonight. but hillary clinton dismissed the strategy as desperate. watch. >> his campaign said today that they're going to use a, quote, scorched earth strategy for the remaining four weeks of this race. now, that just shows how desperate they are. thats' all they have left -- that's all they have left, pure negativity, pessimism, and we're not going to let donald trump get away with it, are we? i will stand up and defend every single person in this country from the insults and the disrespect that we hear from him! [cheers and applause] harris: just to toss in a fact, she did begin a conversation at the end of the first debate with the beauty queen, alicia machado, and tapes that had been unearthed. so to say that it's not in bounds, she has gone there too. taya: right, unfortunately, so many people are are going the take what the candidate says and

use that, that's going to be their one-liner that they use in conversations with other people. as a candidate, all you have to do is give people something they can say to comfort themselves. they want to support you, and you give them the one line or two lines that they can use whether it's true or not, then they're good. that's like the sheep part of the population, the sheep that are people. i feel like we can sit here and say it's so hypocritical, and it is, and it's correct me if i amt rational, all of those things, but strategically, it works. she has to give them the line they want to hear, and it turns into votes. sandra: but, speaker, this strategy though at this point, i mean, less than 30 days out from election day, i have people come up to me all the time -- and i'm sure you do too, harris -- that say enough with the personal attacks. they want to hear about the issues. they're exhausted -- harris: we're talking about the issues. sandra: why is this such a good strategy for trump right now? >> i don't think it is a good strategy. i think he has huge -- he has so

much material on wikileaks that he could spend every day on a serious public policy scandal. all the speeches, i mean, have you read all of the leaks about her speeches to wall street? is this the candidate you can be for? somebody ought to be going to the sanders people because several -- one of the clinton staffers describes them as communists. i mean, the contempt and the venom in the wikileaks is stunning. as i said a while ago, and "the wall street journal" picked up on it this morning in a very good editorial, you know, you have clear anti-catholic bigotry, and if that had been done to muslims or gays, there'd be an outrageous demand from "the new york times" to fire the people. but since it's anti-christian, that's the one acceptable bigotry. harris: i gave the example that yesterday was the beginning of yom kippur. had it been another faith, i don't know, maybe, maybe not. going forward, is he listening to you?

>> no. [laughter] sandra: is he listening to anyone? >> watch what's happening. they've designed a strategy of being very direct to see if they can destroy bill clinton more than "the new york times" can destroy donald trump. now, i think for the country at large that's a tragedy, because donald trump on every major issue represents a majority of the american people, and if he would draw the contrast with hillary on the big issues, he would crush her. she couldn't survive the he went to the big issues. harris harris it sounds like politics 101. meghan, you have seen your father run time and time again x you know when it gets personal, who does he listen to? meghan: i've said it before, i'll say it again. we have chemical weapons being used against our soldiers this iraq right now. focus on do you know why isis arised? because hillary was part of this administration. let's talk about the economy, let's talk about everything the american public is yearning to talk about but this stuff about sex is and women, it is a slow

drip to the bottom. and i'm sor arely the women's vote, whether i like it, apparently hashtag repeal the 19th amendment was trending on twitter last night. it's a big demographic, and they're going to come out and vote, and the republican party can't afford to look anti-women right now. >> i say something? you said something about iraq. you have an administration which hillary clinton was part of which is paying the iranians $150 billion while the iranians are supporting and supplying the rebels in yemen who twice this week fired on american destroyers. meghan: yes. >> now, the idea that your tax money is going to tehran to go to yemen to shoot at our own ships, that, to me, is an issue that's worth developing that probably 95% of the american people would say that's really stupid. and let hillary try to defend it. harris: and then you couple that with the month of october, which is the window for us to move in and retake mosul. we're surround ared by people,

our troops are surrounded by people who are not necessarily on our side. shia troops have not promised there won't be shooting at our men and women. so these are issues that are not being talked about. we're trying to retake a city we already took -- >> and we clearly, by the way, have boots on the ground -- harris: people are in the boots, so, yes. taya, quickly i wanted to yet your thoughts on how do you get the candidate to listen. taya: donald trump didn't listen in the beginning, and it made him successful. was he did it -- because he did it his own way, if i was to try to climb inside his head, i think he's got an issue, right? he knows that it got him this far. disregarding what his strategist told him, but now he's got to go should i keep disregarding him? the truth is, no, at this point it probably isn't. so he's got this fine line. he's already appealing to the population that loves the fight in him and lovings the person --

loves the person who says i don't care what you think. he does immediate to tone it back a little and go back to the issues, and national security's a big one. sandra: going back to meghan's position, bring back out your family, your daughter, your casuals, show him playing with his grandchildren. i mean, there's some strategy there that we could volunteer. harris: all right. [laughter] well, smartest person on the couch, he's not listening to him -- >> no, no. she was the smartest person on the couch. thats' pretty good. harris: a growing firestorm over leaked e-mails purporting to show top hillary clinton allies mocking catholics and evangelicals. we got into it a little bit, we're going to go deeper. now palmieri's response as the trump campaign is stepping up for calls to have those involved fired. and just suggestion days away our own chris wallace set to make history hosting the final debate showdown between the two presidential candidates, the first fox news general

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sandra: donald trump's campaign is calling on hillary clinton to fire top advisers over hacked e-mails appearing to show them mocking catholics. in a 2011 e-mail exchange, campaign spokeswoman jennifer palmieri appearing to write, quote: many other conservatives are catholic because they think it is the most social hi-acceptable, politically-conservative religion. their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelicals. but now palmieri denies any wrongdoing. >> i'm a catholic. i don't recognize that e-mail that we saw, and this whole effort is led by the russians. the russians want -- work sated the attack, we believe as noted by the statement from the director of national intelligence that they're also behind the timing and manner of the leaks, and we are not going to do any more to comment or aid their effort. sandra: trump campaign manager kellyanne conway says the clinton team e-mails expose its

hostility to catholics. >> the hostility towards religious liberty and to the beliefs that we hold as catholics should not go unnoticed or unpunished. we call on hillary clinton to apologize and to fire the staff who have engaged in this vicious anti-catholic bigotry. sandra: trump himself echoing that message at a rally in florida yesterday. watch. >> the new e-mails also show members of clinton team viciously attacking catholics and evangelicals, did you see that? it's just the latest evidence of the hatred that the clinton campaign has for everyday, faithful americans. if you're a person of faith be, i think you're going to vote for donald trump. sandra: all right. so he's making his case there. do you think palmieri should be out as far as working on the campaign for hillary? >> ask yourself a simple question, the they had said exactly the same things -- and there's a lot more stuff there -- if they'd said exactly the same things about muslims,

they'd have been fired that morning. if they'd said that about gays and lesbians, they'd have been fired that morning. truth is, on the american left the one bigotry that's acceptable is against christians. they don't find christian refugees to bring to the u.s. there's a whole bias here which also tells you what hillary's supreme court justices will be like. these will be anti-religious bigots who are determined to impose left-wing values using the power of the government. harris: so you just threaded the needle right along that issue that many in your party are saying that donald trump should focus on, the u.s. supreme court picks. i'm not hearing him do that. >> he should. if you look at how radically clinton will change america, you're talking now about 40 years, not four. if she picks three or four judges, she'll permanently move them to the left. also there's a commission now in massachusetts which is on transgender issues, and the commission has said that one of

the things they want to explore is whether or not churches are going to be required to change the way in which they address people. for example, saying our father, by definition an inappropriate term. the idea that you have a government agency beginning to go down a trail of dictating in the universities, dictating in the media, dictating -- this is totalitarianism on the left. sandra: something you talk a lot about, meghan. meghan: yeah. can i say something? other than the fact that it's abhorrent, bill clinton was saying something derogatory about, quote, rednecks on the campaign trail. there is a distinct bigotry against a certain segment of the population that is socially acceptable in the media and with people on the left. you're talking about hard working, god-fearing americans who are flocking to trump for this reason, because they know that the clintons and obamas and everyone on the left sees them this way and belittles them and looks down on them and their way of life and their values. sandra: taya, will this even hurt hillary at all?

obviously, trump is using this in his rally yesterday, he may today. he has yet to start speaking. will this hurt her? taya: i said what the speaker said is shul true, probably it's just an acceptable bigotry, and people would write it off. i think part of the problem is that this campaign, it's a machine, right? their campaign managers, they've been doing it a long time, probably before she officially announced she was running. i think they're not looking at people, they're looking at people who are getting in the way of their vote. and so i don't think they're actually looking at them as human beings -- harris: as individuals. taya: right. those people are in the way of our -- are getting in the way of our votes. what you said about donald trump and linking to the supreme court justices, that's huge. and i think he could find that happy balance of hitting back, doing the counterpunch and just doing a small link to the supreme court justices like you did here -- harris: thread the needle. taya: yes, thread the needle. meghan: it's why he should have been vp, and you know i was advocating -- [laughter]

biggest mistake he made. [laughter] harris: what taya's bringing up -- >> by the way, i'm still kind of -- [laughter] sandra: you want to enjoy the moment. i was upset. this is such a huge mistake. meghan: look at what he's doing. honestly, this is exactly the messaging the trump campaign should be doing right now. harris: so here's my question, what is going on behind the scenes that you know right now that might be a reason why these needles are not being thread? >> i honestly don't know. i'm mystified. i can't make sense of it. harris: i mean, is this an indication of this being kind of a penalty for being less traditional? >> no, i -- look, trump -- i think somebody said it a while ago very well. trump is a unique character. he's never run for anything before, he comes out of nowhere, he beats 16 people, 7 or 8 were actually very good candidates. he got the most votes of any republican in history, and so he's standing there going let me get this straight, i'm a billionaire, you're not. i got 14 million votes, you didn't. i beat all those other guys that

had all those consultants and money, tell me again why i'm listening to you? i think there's a certain challenge which you can understand at a human level, but it makes it harder for him to put together a -- he's at the edge of winning a historic victory. i mean, he could beat hillary by a margin that would be startling. but to do that, he's got to focus in a way he's not used to doing. sandra: only a few days left, and the countdown is on for the third and final presidential debate. hillary clinton and donald trump will face off against wednesday in the first general election showdown ever moderated by a fox news anchor. what the topics are going to be and what each candidate needs to do. and a fox news exclusive, two the people closely involved in the year-long probe into hillary clinton's e-mails are speaking out saying the decision to let the former secretary of state off the hook has roiled the fbi and the justice department. what this could mean for her white house race. ♪ ♪

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harris: noose -- fox news alert. this is in west palm beach. what we are expecting him to do right away go from that meeting to what you see on the right-side of the screen, that's a rally and you see former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. you will see trump goes from one to the other. we will take it live on fox news. final presidential debate twinl hillary clinton and donald trump is six days away. fox news sunday host chris wallace will be moderated, first fox news anchor to moderate presidential debate. each to get 15 minutes. major new developments, death and entitlement for number one, immigration, the economy, the

supreme court, foreign hot spots and fitness to be president. taya, what do you like about it? >> i was surprised by the fitness to be president. i don't know. i didn't know that was a physical thing about like they've shown hillary passing out or a mentally fit to be president. i wasn't sure -- my reaction was i thought they were doing like a health thing, i don't know. >> could be both. harris: it could be. what you think about the topics? >> a moderator that had obama martha or i know i'm sucking up to newt right now, one of the best debate history moments is when you called out john king on liberal questions and bias and john king doesn't have a show anymore so clearly that had an impact.

i think chris wallace is going to do a good job and he'll be able to keep them on track. sandra: if people say it was a great debate and i don't remember you being there, i would have done my job. harris: anything ever again and you don't hire megan mccain -- i have done his show a lot of times. i think he will approach this with professionalism. i think he will use a tone that will be respectful to both of them than you have seen out of the couple -- i thought trump was 2 on 1 and 3 to 1 on second debate. i didn't think it was right and he comes out of a family of a

great tradition of real news as opposed to political sob. so my guess is, i'm sort of looking forward, because i can't -- [laughter] >> you talk about these two people, maybe las vegas is the right place to have -- harris: all on the table. i want to go maybe take down a lot of the topics. debt and entitlements have not gotten as much. what perspective trump will hit from there? >> we are $33 trillion in debt. there's no interest rates. sending wrong signals to the market and students are graduating with huge amounts of indebtedness because it's such a big issue. i think he will approach frit the stand point is we have to get economic growth and control spending and balance the budget which is a topic i'm particular fond of.

harris: on the flip, hillary clinton? >> things are getting better and eventually who will take care of the debt but who cares. sandra: let's assume donald trump is watching right now and you will give him advice before he goes up stage, what can he do differently? >> i thought he did very well the other night. the first debate he was not nearly as prepared. he improves as much between last sunday and wednesday as he did in first debate two second debate, he will do fine. go to wikileaks, go to clinton's own words. >> it's not debate performance, it's the problem. it's the spin after. he did a great job, he put her in her place at the last one despite having these two moderators, i agree, it was 3 against 1. it's the surrogates keeping narrative in the positive, going to positive direction from performance. harris: all right, good to have you. as we have been telling you, fox

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>> unlike anything else. the debate is fair and balanced. for the first time ever chris wallace is asking the questions and getting real answers from the candidates. don't miss the critical final presidential debate with moderator chris wallace october 19th right here on fox news channel. >> looks like some republicans are getting back behind donald trump. four gop members of congress who had made headlines for demanding that trump drop out now appear to be reversing course saying they will vote for their party's nominees, in the house new jersey scott garrett and alabama's bradley burn, also back in the trump fold nebraska governor, even though he canceled a pair of fundraisers

scheduled earlier this week with vp mike fence. the folks got back on the trump train before last night's reports of women accusing trump of making advances. i was surprised they flip-flopped so quickly. do you think that makes a difference? bigger issues now? >> remembering that every republican's goal should be to defeat hillary clinton and if in that process you elect donald trump. they don't have to go around the country and defend trump. that's trump's job. they do have to beat hillary clinton because she will be a nightmare if they keep house and senate and four years of hillary clinton, it'll be a nightmare. far more corrupt than obama and far more dishonest than obama and harder to control than obama and frankly they haven't done a good job of controlling obama. from a legislative stand point if i was still in office, i would do everything i could to beat hillary clinton. >> senator, isn't that why people hate politicians. a lot of the american public do.

low approval rating. now is someone going to unendorse today because of the revelation. >> when you get the media going in a lynch mob phase, nobody can defend, every hour, two straight days. some of the people panic. they sudden think that's reality. this is a fight, you know, and you said, okay, they got that round, we will get the next round but that also requires that the republicans get much better of figuring out, for example, answering questions about trump and wikileaks and hillary. that requires a level of training. republicans don't like to fight. it was very revealing the other night when trump was asked what he could say positively about hillary, he said, you're a real fighter and you don't quit and i admire that and i think that's

something every republican can look at and if you want to be in this business, you better be prepare today fight because you are trying to change the most powerful country in the world and the other team was willing to fight to stop you. sandra: speaker, you have put your best out there to make sure you're getting republicans on board. why do you think you haven't been more successful at -- at getting them mind trump? >> trump has made mistakes that made it easy for them not to be rushing in. part of it is he's a genuine revolutionary thinker. if you represent the old guard and you're the people who got us into iraq and afghanistan and trump comes along and says after 15 years, we are not winning, a lot of folks in washington who made a living out of what they were doing. there's also -- trump is going to represent a profound change in who the lobbyist and appointees are and a lot of folks going, maybe i will be better off with hillary clinton. harris: they're also making

clear that many establishment have not been with him from the beginning and he has said very plainly specially in the last 36 hours, i don't need you. >> right. harris: that's got to be scary for some of them. >> wild and wily ride. you will have lots to talk about over the next few years. >> people find it hard to endorse him when he makes missteps like that. maybe that's the environment that they have to fight but i do think there's people like me that wishes that could be civil and maybe they have a hard time reconciling that. >> new questions whether the fbi's reputation has been damaged after a source tells fox that agents unanimously wanted to pursue charges but a top position not to do so.

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harris: more outnumbered in just a moment. john: we are waiting rally from donald trump in palm beach. there are reports that he is set to make major announcements this

comes as as a result of women coming with him making sexual advances. first lady michelle obama is speaking right now in new hampshire. he's campaigning for hillary clinton. we are monitoring that. hack e would -- hacker website releasing thousands of emails from the clinton campaign. allegations it is russians are involved. harris: we will be watching. john: thanks. sandra: that's according to fox news' adam housely who spoke exclusively with two people closely involved in the year-long probe were upset with fbi director comey's decision not to recommend charges.

those working the case unanimously said hillary clinton should face charges. no agent working the case agreed not to prosecute. it was a top-down decision. while it might not have been a unanimous decision, the vast majority felt she should have been prosecuted. and at the very least had her security clearance yanked. we go back to james comey's words, he says politics did not have anything to do with the decision that was ultimately made, speaker, your thoughts. >> every lawyer i talked to when they took at the totality of agreeing to immunity, agreeing to destroy the computers, comey's performance is the most disgraceful performance in the history of bureau and next president has to appoint independent counsel.

39 minutes of sitting there talks, a week before they interview his wife and then the interview with his wife where they allow staff to congresswoman in even though they are not, in fact, her attorneys and they don't take any records that there's no recording and she -- the woman goes out and does a good job she does to say 39 times and say, i can't remember, this is the kind of corruption that has led people to decide that they would rather take the risk of donald trump than continue down the road of corruption that clinton represents. sandra: hard to have a good feeling of what went down there, megan. >> i'm not surprised. congratulations getting people on the record. it's something we already knew. i don't feel bad for james comey anymore. at some point he is going to have to step out. the corruption is horrible.

everybody in the fbi except you and everything done for political purposes. it's why people hate the clintons so much and so much distress, they live by a different set of standards and law than the average american does. sandra: the thought that politics was involved with the director of the fbi's decision here, it makes you wonder what the reputation of the fbi will be from here on out. harris: i think it's even deeper than that for comey. he sat in that hearing on capitol hill and he said it wasn't going to be like that. that would mean he lied. it's farther than just do we want to look at for reputation of the fbi, do we want to take a deeper look at this particular individual that promised to have our backseat and get to the bottom of this and make a straight case for possible look of the doj.

if he didn't do his job, it doesn't mean he was bad at it but he was dishonest. >> the president and the attorney general are instructing him to do it. what were the memos, who was in the room? harris: speaker, one of the things that's frustrating for the american people is that it gets hinged to politics. this should be irrespective of that. whether or not we were served as the american public. >> in watergate you had an attorney general and you had deputy attorney general and you had fbi director who all resigned because they would not do what the president asked them to do and in this case everybody caved. sandra: taya, last word. >> i don't think it's much politics than personal. his job is on the line. well, if i can do my job and be untouched and you see the attorney general can get on a plane in broad daylight with bill clinton, personally, you know what, i can be touched.

these people get away with everything. i'm out. that's a good possibility. sandra: we are awaiting on a speech by donald trump. a rally in the key state -- swing state of florida where he says he'll be making a quote, major speech. he'll be addressing the women, the question is will he address the women who have accused him of those unwanted sexual advances. we are awaiting that speech by donald trump

harris: so you know what you have to do. for the first time ever a fox news anchor will be moderating an election debate. you have to watch six days days from today our friend and colleague chris wallace regarded as the best questioner in the business will be moderating the all-important final debate between trump and clinton. it would be held next wednesday october 19th, 9:00 p.m. eastern. pop your corn, the best place to watch debate fox news channel. also awesome, i love this, it's called treason. >> the 40's and said what if isis had two or three people at the fbi, department of homeland security who were traitors? and it's a action book. harris: sizzling.

>> we have ellis the e elephant and treason for adults and you can be scared while your kids are being reassured. harris: thanks for being here. right now happening now. heathes alert. poll has donald trump ahead in utah but hillary clinton and even independent candidate, they are hot on his heels. john: narrow lead there 6 points showing that the reddest states might be less reliable for republicans this year. we are covering all the news happening now. u.s. russian tensions and the white house threatens retaliation of the kremlin. are we seeing a new cold war? thisis just