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news days, and it makes us better, so thank you. >> lucky me. thank you. harris: nineteen days to go until election day. the final showdown between donald trump and hillary clinton was icy. no traditional handshake before or after the 90-minute debate. and then perhaps the headline coming out of last night. the big stunner, donald trump refusing to say whether he would accept the election results if things don't go his way on november 8th. here it is, watch. >> you have been warning at rallies recently that this election is rigged and that hillary clinton is in the process of trying to steal it from you. i i want to ask you here on this stage tonight, do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely, sir, that you will absolutely accept the result ares of this election? >> i will look at it at the time. i'm not looking at anything now. i'll look at it at the time. >> you saying you're not -- >> what i'm saying is i will tell you at the time.

i will keep you in suspension. >> well, chris, let me respond to that, because that's horrifying. every time donald claims things are going his -- this is a mindset. this is how donald thinks. and it's funny but it's also really troubling. harris: trump campaign manager kellyanne conway says the gop nominee wants a fair shot and points to recent presidential politics as a guide. >> he basically is saying until he knows the results, they're certified and very knewed, he's not going to completely concede an unknown. al gore, had you asked him 16 years ago, ladies and gentlemen, would he have conceded the election, he'd say, sure, i'll respect the results, but then he sees he's only losing by 500 some votes in florida, and then we know what happened next. harris: when reminded about al

gore, the 2000 recount and all of those weeks of uncertainty, here's what hillary clinton's running mate, tim kaine, had to say. >> this made it all the way to the supreme court back in 2000 when al gore contested the election results, is so does he not have a point in some way to say let's see what happens and then i'll make a judgment? >> if all he had said during the entire last few weeks is of course we're going to see what happens on election day, this wouldn't be a controversy. but he's going around again and again perpetrating a lie that the election is rigged, he's saying that over and over and over again because he knows that he's losing, and it's insulting to voters. we do know how to conduct elections. we do it, and that's why his comment last night was so shocking. harris: not exactly an acknowledgment of the question that was asked, jerry, about what happened in 2000. so just talk to me about the sheer facts of this and where we are. >> there's been a usual,

predictable amount of swooning by the media and the political establishment, you know, sort of talking to their fainting couches and, oh, my goodness, how could he possibly say something so utterly un-american and unconstitutional and horrific. look, he could have put it differently, but what he said he would do last night in response to chris wallace's question was exactly what al gore did in 2000 which was to wait and see the result. and, by the way, also exactly what john kerry did in 2004. the last two times a republican president won the presidency, on both occasions it was close, and on both occasions there were challenges. famously in 2000 with the 36-day recount in florida. but people forget that in 2004 the result was also close. it was decided by ohio. john kerry initially thought about challenging it and, by the way, has subsequently told people they thought -- harris: that's the interesting point. >> and don't forget the house of representatives, when the election results as they have to

be, have to be certified by the house of representatives, more than 30 democrats in the house of representatives voted not to certify ohio's to election. so all donald trump actually said last night was he will do what the last two democratic losers have done, which is wait and see the results, see if there were any questions, any suggestions of legal concern, of illegality, of irregularities, let that process work itself out and then see what happens. i think people have got a little carried away. harris: so what you're pointing to is the fact that he's not a politician, because a politician would have different timing -- sandra: but he has a lot of politicians speaking on his behalf, and you are seeing his surrogates pushing back against all this outrage. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani saying if the election is too close of course he wouldn't accept it. al gore didn't accept it, did he? everyone's using the al gore analogy. another supporter, alabama senator jeff sessions, also made the gore comparison. he said, though, in his words he's going to accept the

election, but if there's fraud or impropriety, i think he's not waving that off now. to your point, jerry baker, he could have worded this much differently last night and said i am going to accept the outcome of a fair process. i believe in that process, that's why i'm running for president. >> quite right. and i think, and where tim kaine does have a point, a small point is, look, even if he just said last night we'll wait and see the results and, yeah, if it's okay, i'll accept it. this does come among the background of saying it's rigged, they're going to steal the election from me. absolutely, sandra, he could have put it in a more nuanced way -- harris: the timing of that, the getting out in front of it -- meghan: these quotes are important. in 2002 hillary clinton said george bush was selected, not elected according to nude -- "newsweek" hag -- magazine. so my problem is with the liberal pearl clutching right now.

when donald trump says it, it's unconstitutional, undemocratic, it's anti-american. but when john kerry and hillary clinton say it about george bush, then it's okay. harris: but the difference is, too, i'm reading that "newsweek" quote right now, it goes on to say that bush's machine had raised far more money to, quote-unquote, ruin the reputations of the democrats during that election season. so there was this feeling of aftermath having said it. what donald trump's doing now is he's forecasting what will happen if things don't go right. so is that just the nonpolitician in him? julie: that's not the nonpolitician in him, that is somebody who doesn't care about a peaceful transition which is exactly what he's talking about. when he's going around telling people to be poll watchers because democrats are going to steal these elections, there's vast fraud going on all around the country -- apparently it's only democrats who perpetuate election fraud based on, by the way, or zero facts to make the case. when he's ginning his base up and then proceeds to say and i'm not sure if i'm going to accept the results of the election,

taking all of that in tandem, what he's essentially saying is that we conduct our elections in a fraudulent matter, and if he's the loser of this election, hillary clinton will be elected fraudulently, she will be a fraudulent leader. that is the conclusion that one can draw based on everything that he has said leading up to this point. if he had said yesterday -- meghan: this is my problem -- julie: wait a second, let me finish my thought. if he had said al gore lost this election by 500 votes in florida, and as a result al gore was right to wait and see how florida played out until he conceded to george bush, that's fine. i get that. what i have a problem with is saying everything leading up to election day is one vast fraud -- harris: well, he didn't exactly say that. julie: it's what he's implying. meghan: you can't have john kerry saying i lost because of fraud, but then saying fraud doesn't exist. just be intellectually honest and consistent. i don't like this either. i think it distracts from the main message, but you can't be speaking out of both sides of your mouth. >> john kerry actually said to,

according to some reporting that we've seen, that he said to the afghans when he was talking about the problems of the afghanistan elections, he said, oh, we know all about that, because i had the same thing in ohio. julie: that's appalling, if he a said that. harris: absence of abuse of widespread irregularities, yes, this is kellyanne conway -- sandra: do you think, julie, the media's pushing this as a the big headline? julie: you can be a democrat or republican. the day that george bush was certified as the president-elect of the united states, i and most democrats, not all, but i and most rational democrats said this is our president, and that's all it is. if your now saying that this election is illegitimate, that um plies that the president is ill he g8 mitt, and that is a very dangerous thing -- >> but that's what democrats said about george bush. julie: and i disagree with them because once he got elected and once it got certified, that's

it, he's our commander in chief. it's over. meghan: it can't be fraud when john kerry loses and not fraud because donald trump is saying it. this is the main problem -- harris: kelly ann congressway, absent of widespread abuse, yes, they will accept the results of the election, but she also says i think trump will be president. well, part of the debate was focused on the scandals both hillary clinton and donald trump are dealing with right now. how each of them handled their controversies. handle your scandal. plus, no handshakes, i mentioned their families. the final showdown got pretty personal at points, whether it was the most vitriolic one yet and how that could affect voters. and you know what? we're making more "outnumbered," we call it overtime online, and after the show join us on our lye chat. we love it when you do. click to overtime tab when you go to foxnews.com/outnumbered. also last night we were on

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sandra: we are awaiting donald trump to step up to the podium at the delaware county fair in delaware, ohio. he is expected to speak in this hour. obviously, there is high curiosity about what he will say just hours after last night's big debate. we will bring his comments to you live when he steps to the podium. meanwhile, scandals played a big part in last night's debate. both hillary clinton and donald trump on the defensive at times over the controversies surrounding them. so how'd they handle it? well, here's hillary defending her e-mail practices and the clinton foundation. >> she destroyed 33,000 e-mails criminally, criminally. >> every time donald is pushed on something, which is obviously uncomfortable like what these women are saying, he immediately goes to denying responsibility. >> why isn't what happened and what went on between you and the clinton foundation, why isn't it

what mr. trump calls pay to play? >> well, everything i did as secretary of state was in furtherance of our country's interests and our values. >> why don't you give back the money that you've taken from certain countries that treat certain groups of people so horribly? >> i'd be happy to compare what we do with the trump foundation which took money from other people and bought a suggestion-foot portrait of donald. i mean, who does that? [laughter] it just was asson,ning. sandra: that was certainly a big moment last night. donald trump was also asked about his controversies, including allegations of unwanted sexual advances. here's how he answered that question. >> well, first of all, those stories have been largely debunked. those people, i don't know those people. i have a feeling how they came. i believe it was her campaign that did it. the stories are all totally false, i have to say that. and i didn't even apologize to my wife who's sitting right here, because i didn't do anything. i didn't know any of these women.

i didn't see these women. >> donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger. >> she mentions this, which is all fiction, all fiction and lies, probably or possibly started by her and her very sleazy campaign. >> it's not one thing, this is a pattern. sandra: so hard to decide where to go first there. jerry baker, how did the two candidates handle their scandals last night? [laughter] >> well, they took different approaches, but they were trying to do essentially the same thing which was to sort of, basically, deny. i mean, hillary was pressed on this issue of the clinton foundation, and there's no question that, you know, even if there's no evidence of a direct pay to play, that is foreign countries giving money to the clinton foundation and then, surprise-surprise, getting favorable outcomes from the state department when she was secretary of state, there's so much smoke there, that there's plenty of evidence. but she was able to bulldoze her way through that.

trump took the approach of, once again which he always does, denying things he's already said. actually trying to get away with flatly contradicting himself or flatly contradicting what ores have said finish others have said. the thing about not apologizing to melania -- sandra: so let's talk about that moment, because i think that was a huh moment from a lot of people when he said he didn't apologize to my wife but she is, in fact, on the record with fox news in an interview saying that he did apologize to her. meghan: i thought it was very uncomfortable for people that don't follow politics, that was trending for a little while on twitter. i would just leave melania out of everything possible at this point because, again, that poor woman has, quite frankly, been through enough. what's important to me is him bringing up the fact that the clinton foundation took money from saudi arabia and qatar, and her inability to be able to say why they ended up taking those donations and why they hadn't at

this point given the money back. i thought that was one of his strongest points. so if you want to talk about real insults towards women, you're talking money from countries who will chop women's hands off -- harris: i agree with you, meghan, in terms of going from point to point, he gave examples of how gays and women have been treated in these other countries, and she pivoted to a six-foot-tall likeness of him by the trump foundation. i didn't understand really where she was going with that other than to pivot away from the question. but it really, i thought, left a divot in the conversation for her because she wouldn't even acknowledge those two things are not on the same par. julie: a couple things. jerry, you're absolutely right where he's saying these allegations against me by these women have been vastly debunked. they haven't been. people magazine just ran an article citing numbers of women who are standing by the reporter who wrote the story saying that he harassed her. but the problem for hillary, and this is something she has to think about, is this: i think

she's going to be president. so this will all go -- the comparison to donald trump will go by the wayside. she'll still have to deal with the trust issue once she's commander in chief. i thought the minute she became a senator the clinton foundation should have ceased to exist, so maybe bill clinton should have come up with a different model to channel his philanthropic efforts because this model was not going to work if his wife was going to be a senator or secretary of state. so that's what she has to contend with once she's president, is that she's not going to be running against donald trump. it's not going to be a comparison of two untrustworthy people. it's going to be just her. so she has to regain the public trust, and the clinton foundation, i'm not quite sure what she could say at this late admit to make it better, but it leaves a lot of questions. i think sometimes the clinton campaign thinks this is some republican, right-wing conspiracy. it's not, i'm a liberal democrat -- harris: you saw megyn kelly

questioning donna brazile on whether debate questions had been given ahead of time. the e-mail leaks and revelations whenever they're coming from, the story has such tentacles. they go back to the nucleus of we don't trust from the american people. you see it in the polling. sandra: so, jerry baker, as we look at this live picture in delaware, ohio, waiting for donald trump to step up and give us his words, perhaps commenting on last night's performance, what do you expect to hear out of the candidate? >> the sure as we've heard before -- the same as we've heard before with, he'll double down -- sandra: will he take a victory lap? >> he will. i'm sure he'll say he won. he'll say -- you know, one thing he can't do is criticize the moderator, to be fair. [laughter] sandra: fair enough. julie: he'll find a way. >> you know, he'll say she lied and she's crooked hillary and everybody's against him and there's still a conspiracy. you know, we're two and a half weeks away from the election, and i think nothing's going to change. sandra: we'll talk about chris wallace and his moderation of

that debate later in the show. in the meantime, last night's debate turning into a global showdown. the candidates going at it over russian president vladimir putin and hillary's claim that moscow is illegally hacking into dnc computers to try to influence the election. who won that fiery exchange? ♪ ♪

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harris: a fierce exchange during the debate over or vladimir putin. hillary clinton accused donald trump of being a puppet of putin saying intelligence agencies have linked moscow to recent hacks of democratic party accounts and what clinton claims is an an attempt to influence the election in the united states. but trump fired back saying he's never even met putin and that clinton does not like the russian leader because he outsmarted her when she was secretary of state. here it is. >> finally are, will donald trump admit and condemn that the russians are doing this and make it clear that he will not have the help of putin in this election, that he rejects russian espionage against americans which he actually encouraged in the past? >> she has no idea whether it's russia, china or anybody -- >> i am not quoting myself, i am quoting -- >> hillary, you have no idea. i don't know putin.

he said nice things about me. we got along well, that would be good. from everything i see has no respect for this person. >> well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president -- >> no puppet. >> and it's pretty clear -- >> you're the puppet. putin has outsmarted her every step of the way. >> mr. trump -- >> excuse me. >> mr. trump -- >> i'm not a plant here, i've just got to -- harris: those two threw more shade than a forest. [laughter] my goodness gracious. [laughter] for the record, though, donald trump and president putin actually have met. he may not know him, but they've met. >> it's confusing. trump did once say that he had met putin in a green room at a tv event. it was never confirmed, but subsequently he said he didn't meet we don't have any independent proof of it. harris: all right. >> look, i think the problem here is what transfer says about piewt -- what trump says about putin and russia is exactly right.

there's no question that in the last eight years putin, russia -- vladimir putin's russia has become much more powerful, much more profile, much more leverage in the world whether it's in eastern europe, annexing crimea, taking over large parking lots of the few -- parts of ukraine, it's got a foothold in the middle east, what it's doing in syria, it's got an alliance with iran, it's mended relations with turkey, it's bullying the europeans. and be a lot of the blame for that lies with the president and his secretary of state at the time. the problem, the problem is -- and this is what's disturbing -- is instead of just sticking to that, he never says, he seems, he always seems to confirm this suspicion that people have that actually he's doing vladimir putin's work for him. what's striking last night, that he will attack the american electoral system which elects a president, president obama, and call into question the american election system, but he won't attack the russian election system, by the way, where there really is corruption and

crookedness and all kinds of bad things. harris: so you just enumerated the facting -- facts for us, and you're saying the issue is he's in concert with how putin does things. i think it seems like it's glorified and maybe there's a different way he would want to say it. julie's head almost popped off. julie: i'm going to calm down. let's, first of all, talk about what russia looks like under vladimir putin. it is a repressive regime, their economy's tanking in large part because of the sanctions that the american government and european governments that hillary clinton led have placed upon the russians. the average russian is living on a couple hundred dollars a month. they are repressive. you want to talk about repressive regimes towards gay people, towards minorities, they're assassinating reporters, there's no free press. they are hacking into our e-mail systems, all of our intelligence agencies agree on this except for donald trump. everybody pretty much acknowledges this. but yet donald trump and what's absurd to me is, you know, he has every right to criticize hillary clinton from taking

money from saudi arabia for the clinton foundation. his son admitted they do a lot of business russia. really? the trump organization, as a result, takes a lot of money from a very repressive regime that does a lot of awful things. he needs to stop making excuses for the most dangerous man on earth. he's more dangerous than the iranians because he empowers the iranians -- sandra: so why do you think he's doing it? >> was i think the -- because i think the trump organization has a lot of interests in russia -- >> they deny that. julie: you know what i would love to see in his taxes? sandra: where are you based onsome. >> on the fact that his son said they do a lot of business russia. meghan: but i think it's as simple as putinen said nice things about me. you would realize how dangerous it is to act like you could be friends -- harris: to glorify that -- meghan: who is doing everything he can to try and make russia a superpower again. he wants to belittle the united states as a superpower. the reason why the syrian refugee crisis a raging is

because putin has given aid to assad. if you even understand at a minimal level, everything trump has said, the p.o. to w. comments about my father, the stuff about woman, the stuff about putin -- just let me finish because this is emotional for julie and i -- this is by far the most dangerous, by far the most ignorant, and i cannot bring myself to vote for him. harris: so when you talk to trump supporters, jerry, and hay say things like, well, we don't understand why he keeps talking about russia, does he just have a fascination with the power of it, how do you think his supporters take this? >> i think on the one hand they just dismiss everything that the media says. i -- they say it's not true. julie's right, that was e an effective moment for hillary last night, 17 national security agencies. she actually accused him of lack of patriotism because he seems to be rared to believe vladimir putin over 17 conscientious, decent american, people who work for american intelligence agencies. that's an extraordinary thing in

itself, but a lot of people say, oh, that's just the media, we don't believe it. and this is disturbing, because i agree with everything julie and meghan said about russia. putin -- it's a horrible regime. he's an ex-kgb man, he's repressive, he's nasty to use a different donald trump phrase from last night. that said, he's very popular in russia. he has rebuilt russian -- the economy's a mess, it's true, but he's rebuilt russian pride after what was seen as the humiliation at the end of the cold war. he is stomping on the world stage, going around the world, and he looks like a strong leader doing all kinds of bad things, we know, but he looks like a strong leader. and i think some americans say, you know what? i kind of wouldn't mind my president looking like that -- julie: the reason he's like that, and i have to stress this, is because he has gotten rid of all opposition, all free press -- >> it's more complex than that. no, the country has really restored a lot of its pride in itself -- meghan: because he hasn't given

anybody any other reason. harris: they're playing the wrap music, and in the meantime, two rivals sparring over what voters call the number one issue, the economy. who came out on top when it comes to your pocketbook? and we are awaiting that donald trump rally where we expect to hear from him for the first time since last night's showdown perhaps, and we're told any minute perhaps on the topic of whether he would accept the election results which he talked about last night. we will bring you this event with donald trump when he steps to the lectern immediately when it happens live. stay with us. ♪ ♪

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this is the first time we'll be hearing from him. perhaps he'll talking about whether he'll accept election results in november, part of the discussion in the last debate last night. let's watch. [cheers and applause] >> and i worked in ohio, and i love ohio, i can tell you -- [cheers and applause] early voting is underway, so make sure you mail in your ballot, and you have to do it quickly and in person. but on november 8th, get there. we're going to do something that has never been done before in this country. [cheers and applause] believe me. ladies and gentlemen, i want to make a major announcement today. i would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the united states that i will totally accept the

results of this great and historic presidential election if i win. [cheers and applause] all right. seriously, the debate last night was amazing. and everybody said i won. [cheers and applause] including every single online poll, and some had it at 90 and close to 90%. so that's pretty close. [cheers and applause] the question of voter fraud came up during the debate.

we want fairness in the election. this is having nothing to do with me, but having to do with the future of our country. weto have -- we have to have fairness. john podesta, hillary clinton's campaign chairman, was quoted in wikileaks as saying illegal immigrants could vote as long as they have their drive's license. driver's license. what i'm saying is don't be naive, folks. don't be naive. one of the big issues that came up last night was the fact that the clinton campaign has paid people to disrupt violently our rallies and to incite absolute, total bedlam. >> lock her up!

lock her up! lock her up! it's so bad, so bad. and, you know, i've had occasions where we had rallies, and it was so uncredibly violent, i said, what's going on over here? these were paid people by the clinton campaign, and it just came out. and i give a lot of credit to the people that brought this out, believe me. this is criminal behavior this that violates centuries of tradition of peaceful, democratic elections. a campaign like clinton's that will incite violence is truly a campaign that will do anything to one. and a candidate like crooked hillary clinton who will lie to congress, lie to the fbi, destroy 33,000 e-mails, put her

office up for sale and put our confidential information mt. reach of our enemies -- in the reach of our enemies is a candidate who is truly capable of anything. including voter fraud. in addition, it was just learned that hillary clinton was given the exact questions to a previous debate word for word by donna brazile who is now under tremendous pressure to resign from the dnc. as she should be. [cheers and applause] she should resign. how can a woman do that? that is cheating at the highest level. but i ask you, why shouldn't hillary clinton resign from the race?

she was given -- think of it. she was given these questions, she used these questions, studied the questions, got the perfect answer for the questions and never said that she did something that was totally wrong and inappropriate. hence the name crooked hillary. [cheers and applause] years ago there was a show called the $64,000 question. a contestant got the questions in advance, and his life was ruined. they found out about it, remember? anybody remember his name? come on. van dohrn. very good. you look younger than that. charles van dohrn. charles van dohrn was his name.

he got the questions, and his life was ruined. but hillary, hillary clinton got the question -- think of it. forget donna brazile, she should resign. she looked like such a fool last night on television trying to say, well, she didn't know what was going on. she had no idea. she said, get me out of here. she got the questions, she got the questions, she gave them to hillary clinton. hillary clinton didn't say i'd like to announce that a mistake was made, and i can't take these questions. i mean, look, how many questions are there, right? can you imagine if i got the questions? they would call for the reestablishment of the electric chair, to you agree with that? right? [laughter] she got the questions, and she didn't report it. she went out there knowing the questions, she didn't report it. that is very dishonest.

she's a very dishonest person. this is even bigger because we are going for the presidency of the united states, so this is very important. hillary clinton is the most corrupt and dishonest person ever to seek the office of the presidency. [cheers and applause] so it's in that context that i was asked a question about whether i would agree in advance to concede the results on election night if for some reason we should lose, which we're not going to lose. [cheers and applause] and that was sort of an unprecedented question. be al gore or george -- if al gore or george bush had agreed three weeks before the election to concede the results and waived their right to a legal challenge or a recount, then

there would be no supreme court case and no gore v. bush or bush v. gore. and there have been numerous other cases. in effect, i'm being asked to waive centuries of legal precedent designed to protect the voters. [applause] but listen to this. according to pew -- highly respected -- there are 24 million voter registrations in the united states that are either invalid or significantly inaccurate. okay. i think the people in this room understand it more than our leaders. although maybe our leaders understand more than we think they understand. listen to this. 1.8 million people are dead, but they're registered to vote. some of whom vote even though

they're dead. which is really a hard thing to do. [laughter] but it's easyfraud is involved, right? so you've got 1.8 million people who are dead who are registered to vote, and some of them vote. one was a republican, and after death became a democrat. [laughter] it's true. 2.8 million people are are registered many more than one state -- in more than one state. so you've got 2.8 million people that can vote in ohio and someplace else. and 14% of noncitizens are registered to vote. and then i hear we have such a beautiful, everything's so wonderful. you understand where i'm coming from, i think, right? now, i am not a politician, so i can say it like it is.

but those are terrible, those are terrible and frightening statistics. america is a constitutional republic with a system of laws. these laws are triggered mt. case of fraud or -- in the case of fraud or in the event of a recount where it's needed. of course, i would accept a clear election result, but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. [cheers and applause] right? and always i will follow and a abide by all of the rules and traditions of all of the many candidates who have come before me. always. bottom lewin, we're going to win -- bottom line, we're going to win. we're going to win. we're going to win so big.

we're going to win so big. [cheers and applause]mber 3th, o win. -- november 8th, we're going to win. together we are going to deliver real change that puts, again, america first. it's going to be america first. [cheers and applause] >> usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! >> thank you. boy, do you people have spirit. [cheers and applause] so early. [cheers and applause] beautiful. it's a beautiful thing to see. all over the country, it's the same. the spirit, it's a movement like they've never seen, the dishonest media, they've never seen anything like it. they've never seen it. they've never seen anything like it. they've never seen anything like it. we are going to renegotiate our terrible trade deals, end illegal immigration, stop the massive inflow of refugees,

reduce surging crime, cut taxes and regulation, unleash job-producing energy, american energy -- [cheers and applause] rebuild our military and take care of our vets. now -- [cheers and applause] our vets. our great veterans have not been taken care of the way they should be taken care of. that i can tell you. our vets are treated oftentimes not as well as illegal immigrants, and is we're going to change that very fast. our vets are going to be treated properly and with great respect. that's not happening now. [cheers and applause] and we are going to repeal and replace obamacare. [cheers and applause] just in cause you haven't

noticed, rates are going up 60, 70, 80%. next year's going to be worse. it's a catastrophe, and it's dying anyway, but we're going to repeal it, replace it. you're going to have great health care at a practice of the cost, okay? [cheers and applause] your jobs will come back under a trump administration. your jobs are fleeing. your incomes will go up under a trump administration. your taxes will go way down under a trump administration. and hillary clinton is going to raise your taxes. she's going to raise your taxes. your companies won't be leaving ohio under a trump administration. [cheers and applause] right now our economy isn't growing practically at all. last quarter it was only around 1% gdp. people have hardly ever heard of numbers like that. if in china it goes to 7 or 8%, it's like considered a national catastrophe. here we're 1%, isn't everything wonderful? everything's not wonderful.

and if it was wonderful, we wouldn't have packed auditoriums no matter where we go, believe me. i'm going to get us to 4% growth and maybe more and create 25 million jobs for our country over the next ten years. [cheers and applause] many workers are earning less today than they were 18 years ago. they're working harder, they're working longer, but they're making less. and in some cases, they're working two and three jobs. but still taking home less money. it's ridiculous. they're getting older, they're working harder, and so am i. i'm working harder and i'm getting older too. believe me. i'm working harder. [cheers and applause] companies like carrier are firing their workers and moving to mexico. ford is moving all of their small car production to mexico.

when i'm president if a company wants to fire their workers and leave for mexico or other countries, then we will charge them a 35% tax when they want to ship their products back into the united states. [cheers and applause] and they won't leave, believe me. [cheers and applause] those companies will not leave if we do that. they will not leave, and you know what? if they do, that'll be fine. we'll make a lot of money. but they're not going to be leaving. and our politicians should have told you this years ago, you would have stopped this horrible onslaught of companies leaving. but two things. either they're not very smart, or they are smart but they're controlled by their donors and special interests, okay? so either way the people lose. hillary clinton has raised countless millions of dollars from big donors who want to ship our jobs to other countries. you know that, you saw that last night. remember? i said open border, turned out

she wanted open borders. boy, that wikileaks has done a job on her, hasn't it? [cheers and applause] and you take a look, she really has a hatred almost for catholics. she's got a hatred for evangelicals. i mean, what they said about catholics and evangelicals and so many other things, so many other things. and actually the one i liked was john podesta saying that -- who's her campaign chairman -- saying that hillary clinton has bad instincts. she's got bad i'm instincts. i don't want somebody with bad instincts as our president. i'll tell ya, if i were hillary, i'd fire that guy. he's said so many bad things -- [laughter] what bill said about obamacare, right? two weeks ago, he said this is the craziest thing i've ever seen. he was right. he suffered that evening, right?

he suffered. [laughter] but this is why i'm proposing a package of ethic reforms to make our government honest once again. it's time to drain the swamp of corruption in washington, d.c., and we're going to do it. [cheers and applause] those reforms include the following: or a five-year lap on executive branch -- ban on executive branch and officials lobbying the government after they leave government service. they're making a fortune. not going to happen. a lifetime ban on former executive branch officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. a ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for american elections. i don't want that. you don't want that. nobody wants that. then you wonder why do we make all these dumb deals and these horrible deals. friends of mine come up, how could they have made such a stupid deal? they can't be -- i said, they are actually smart, but you have to understand, this is the way

the system works. additionally, i'm going to push for a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of congress. [cheers and applause] it's about time. not only will we end government corruption, but we will end economic stagnation. my plan for the economy can be summed up in three very beautiful words: jobs, jobs, jobs. [cheers and applause] at the center of what will be a historic jobs plan will be fixing our terrible trade deals, and they are terrible. 47 million americans are in poverty, and 45 million americans are right now on food stamps. we have nearly 800 billion annual trade deficit in goods with the world, and the worst so-called recovery since the great depression. you know, we hear about a recovery.

it's the worst since the great depression. hard to believe. ohio has lost one in four manufacturing jobs since nafta, and china's entrance into the world trade organization -- two deals done by bill and backed strongly by crooked hillary. america has lost, listen to, 70,000 factories since china joined the wto. and by the way, try doing business over in many china. not easy, folks. not easy. we're living through the greatest jobs theft in the history of the world. they're stealing our jobs, they're stealing our companies, they're taking our money. we have drugs, we have debt, we have empty factories. that's going to end. that's going to end. so easy. [cheers and applause] a trump administration is going to renegotiate nafta, the worst

ever signed -- probably the worst trade deal ever signed in history -- stand up to foreign cheating is and currency manipulation and stop the jobs from leaving our country. we're going to stop them. it won't be hard. [cheers and applause] it won't be hard. in order to help bring our jobs back to ohio, michigan with, pennsylvania, north carolina, all across this great nation, i'm going to undertake a major reorganization of our bureaucracy which we have to do. [cheers and applause] have to do. american trade policy is currently mismanaged by dozens of competing bureaucracies spread across the departments of agriculture, commerce, labor, state, treasury. all of these departments. so many departments -- get that mosquito out of here. [laughter] get a little nervous with mosquitoes nowadays, folks. [laughter]

but up here you haven't been hit yet, right? that's what we need is a nice mosquito bite. [laughter] >> we love you. >> thank you. i love you too. mosquito bite right smack in the middle of the nose. [laughter] no, we don't want it. in my administration all trade policy making will be consolidated into one very important office. [cheers and applause] we're going to call it the american desk, and it will be located inside the department of commerce. and i'll be checking with those people. because we're not going to lose our companies anymore. [cheers and applause] it's so complicated. so many different departments have to get involved, and by the time they get involved, they're gone. they've signed with all of these other countries. the mission of the american desk will be to protect the economic

interests of the american worker. and the national interests of the united states because they're hurting our national interests. we owe $20 trillion right now. doubled under obama. and we haven't done anything. our roads are bad, our airports are bad, our schools are bad. everything's bad. they're falling down. so we have all this debt, and we haven't started yet, because we have to fix the infrastructure of our country. it's going to be america first, believe me. [cheers and applause] as part of our plan to brung back our jobs -- to bring back our jobs, we're going to lower our business tax from 35% to 15%. [cheers and applause] we're also going to rebuild our inner cities. african-americans and hispanics living in the inner cities are suffering. the violence the unbearable and and unbelievable. you walk to the store with your child, is and you get shot.

there's no education, there are no jobs, and there's practically no safety. nearly 3,500 people have been shot in chicago since the beginning of year. since january 1st. 3,50 people. that's -- 3,500 people. that's worse than what you're reading about over in the middle east in many cases. more than 60% of homicide are up in washington, d.c. and baltimore. and it's getting worse. to the african-american and hispanic communities who are suffering, i say what do you have to lose? vote for donald trump. i'm going to fix the inner cities. [cheers and applause] i'm going to fix the inner cities. [cheers and applause] what do you have to lose? seriously, and i mean it. the inner cities are so bad. they've been run so badly by democrats for decades and decades and decades.

sometimes more than 100 years unbroken, and they get the votes, and they go on their way, and they don't do a thing. so i hope the african-americans, i hope the hispanics, i hope they're going to vote for trump. we're going to do something about it, believe me. big league. [cheers and applause] we will be a rich nation once again. but to be a rich country, we must also be a safe country. [cheers and applause] and and national security begins at the border. speaking in secret to a foreign bank, hundt -- hillary clinton said her dream is for totally open trade and open borders. you saw that last night when she tried to lie about it, right?