so in the average of all polls trump is behind 6.2 percentage points. do you believe he can turn it around in the next 18 days? facebook.com/kelliefile, on twitter@megynkellie. thanks for watching. let me know what you think. ♪ welcome to welcome to "hannity," and tonight the race for the white house is in the final stretch and voters will be headed to polls in 18 short days. donald trump will be here in a minute with reaction, but first it's been a big week in politics. the candidates faced off in third and final debate in las vegas. the liberal mainstream media lost their minds over donald trump's comments about accepting election results, despite a long history of democrats doing the exact same thing. although fox news cannot independently verify, undercover tapes from project veritas appear to expose very sinister schemes by democrats to incite

violence at trump rallies and to commit massive voter fraud. and tomorrow the gop nominee will make a major pledge to american voters in getties burg, pennsylvania. joining us with details, 2016 republican presidential nominee donald trump. mr. trump, how are you? i'm very good. thank you, sean. >> can you give us a preview, it almost sounds like a contract with america or promises to america that you're going to be talking about tomorrow. what can you tell us? >> well, we're going to be doing a lot of things. we will be lowering taxes. we will be strengthening our border. we will be getting rid of regulations. the regulations are going to be gone, because, i mean, you look at this country, what is happening with regulation goes, and we need them for security and we need them for certain things like the environment, but our regulations are just taking over our companies. we can't compete anymore. we're going to be terminating, repealing and replacing obama care. we will be saving our second amendment. there are a lot of things, sean. i think it will be very special. >> i talk a lot about the profound differences, the

supreme court, vetting refugees, saying radical islam, cutting taxes, raising taxes, keeping obama care, getting rid of obama care, building a wall, not building a wall, energy independence, no independence, education top down and to the states. those are deep, profound differences. do you think the voters understand the choice that is theirs this election? >> well, i think they do and i think if they watched the debates they would really understand a lot. i mean right now i think you have two very clear choices. you have a really clear choice between hillary clinton and myself, and if you just look at the stances on everything, she is going to raise taxes, i'm going to lower taxes. she is going to increase regulations, i'm going to cut regulations down to a minimum, a good number but down to a minimum. there's so many different things. we are going to rebuild the military, take care of our vets, save the second amendment, we're going to repeal and replace obama care, which is a total disaster. she wants to make it even a bigger mess. going to spend trillions and trillions of dollars on it.

it is crazy what is going on. >> yeah. >> you have a really clear choice, a very distinct choice. >> you had been very critical of the media throughout this entire process. now through wikileaks we know the following news organizations, univision, abc, cbs, nbc, new york sometimes, politico, boston globe, all of the organizations, cnn, in one way fashion or form a have been in the pocket of hillary clinton. what is your reaction to that? >> it is totally brutal. i mean you can do something that's, you know, just fabulous, it is perfect, everything is great and they end up giving you bad news and bad stories, bad coverage. it is the single greatest pile on they say. this isn't me saying it, it is other people, even news organizations. the single greatest pile on. despite that, you just saw the crowd we had outside. we're in pennsylvania now. we left north carolina, i'm going back to pennsylvania, the a different section in pennsylvania. in a little while. we have a massive crowd there. it's been unbelievable what is going on. i think that it is not p --

although as you know three polls caming out today saying i'm leading nationwide. look, it is a question of tax egs, a question of borders, do we want to have a country or not, we're going to have strong borders. we will have people come into our country, but legally through a process. i think a lot was learned in the debates. i think you understand how we did and how well we did in the debates, and i think we really showed a big difference. >> i want to ask you and you brought it up during the debate. i want to play you one small clip of the project veritas videos and it is about the flow of money to these operatives that admit and brag they're fomenting and causing violence even back in the chicago incident in march, but also talking about a massive voter fraud plan that they have, and they want to orchestrate. i want you to hear how the money flows and then respond to the two specific tapes. listen to this. i am contracted to him, but i answer to the head of special events for the dnc, and the head

of the special events of politico for the campaign. campaign pays dnc who pays democracy partners who pay the foefal group. >> so let me reiterate. it says the campaign pays the dnc, who pays democracy partners who pays the foefal group. they're the people bragging about fomenting violence at your events, inciting it, and they're the people that talk at length about massive voter fraud in this election. you came under heavy fire after the debate for saying, i'll keep you in suspense about accepting the election outcome. what is your reaction to these tapes? >> i have been saying for a long time it is a rigged system. it is terrible what is going on. and then the politicians playwright along with it. i mean you have 1.8 million people who are dead who are registered to vote, and some of them absolutely vote. now, you tell me how they do that. there's only one way. you have 2.5 million people or

so registered in two states. that means they're voting twice. look, we have a system. i'm a big believer in the system. i bloulove our country, but i t i've done a great service by pointing it out. a lot of people agree with what i'm saying, that i can tell you. our rally in chicago, that's where they were. they were there, and nobody could figure out what was going on, where did these -- they're real thugs, by the way, real thugs, and they injured policemen and people and they should be put in jail. these are bad people, and, again, it is a rigged system. who got blamed for it? our rally people, us, me, everybody. we all got blamed for it. >> hillary herself blamed you for it. >> and it had nothing to do with us. >> well, the democratic operative overseeing this visited the obama white house 342 times. what does it mean to you? >> i think it is a disgrace. i guess he saw the president 44 times they say. who knows? but i think it is disgraceful. can you imagine, the one overseeing violence -- and this

is a criminal act. i don't know if you saw the picture, the cops were leaving, these policemen, these great people were leaving with massive gashes in their head from these people. these are professional thugs. they were being paid $1500 a day, and they got cellphones out of it. no, this is a very serious problem. i think come november 8th i think we're going to win, and maybe bigger than people ever even dreamed. when you look at pennsylvania, look at what is happening here. when you look at north carolina where i just left, you look at ohio and you see what is happening. you see what is happening with some of the jobs, the companies that are leaving our country and going to mexico and other places. you see what is happening with obama care, which is such a disaster. obama care is a catastrophe. premiums are going up 60, 70, 80%. the care is no good. you can't even get it, the deductibles -- say what you want, bill clinton said it is the craziest thing i've ever seen. he said that and probably sefrd for it. but he said it is a disaster, a

total disaster. >> and coming up, part two of my interview with donald trump. i will ask him about the wikileaks revelations, plus the original insurge enlt patrick j. buchanan will join us. he is calling out the establishment saying they fear donald trump. also later tonight. >> [ inaudible ]. >> here's hillary clinton caught on tape back in 2010 lecturing her staff at the state department about the importance of cyber security. it is a video you've got to see to believe. that and more tonight right here on "hannity."

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with the 2016 republican nominee, donald trump. >> as i talk to you i'm going to put up the headlines of wikileaks including the things we discovered including the latest solicitation, $12 million from a country that secretary clinton as secretary of state thought abusing their own citizens, $12 million, also a paid appearance to go to the clinton fon dags. on the side of you right now is a list of all of the revelations. i know you've been paying attention to it. the media has not. they've largely ignored it. what does it tell you about the clintons and about the campaign and about their tactics? i mean they would -- they even exposed how they would go after obama and his father being a muslim and obama used cocaine and going after bernie sanders and of course you. what do you get out of these wikileaks revelations? >> take a look at what is going on. i mean look at as an example, this wasn't wikileaks but look what you said about the voter fraud that was uncovered with the tapes. look at what you said about the

thugs going into arenas and starting a problem. look at what came out today about the "new york times" where they have reporters that are soft or safe or something. i have those same reporters and they are brutal. they're not brutal, they're dishonest, totally dishonest. you know, it is a totally dishonest group of people. you just take a look at what has happened. look at how you get set up. they say you saw somebody in 1902 and you touched the person. i mean give me a break. this is stuff that all doesn't exist, sean. this is dirty, disgusting stuff, and they'll find out, it will be revealed at some point. this is dirty, disgusting stuff. >> yeah. >> you know what? it is no way, it's no way it should be. we're supposed to be a great democracy. it's no way it should i mean a certain magazine wrote some horrible things, i guess it came out today. nobody reports -- i'm not going to get involved in it, but nobody reports it. if somebody calls the newspaper and says one thing, they make a big deal out of it.

>> they interviewed a woman on cnn for 45 minutes, turns out she claims you were molesting you on the plane. then an eyewitness came on with judge jeanine pirro who said it neverng happened, wsaid i was sitting ne sitting next to them. she was on a public plane and you would think she would have called out for help. >> by the way, it never happened. >> you have an eyewitness that corroborates that for you, an eyewitness. >> so you understand, all of that stuff was fabricated, made up, never happened. when you see, they come like every two days. never happened. >> how does -- >> never, ever happened. >> how does cnn put the woman on for 45 minutes and then the guy that was sitting next to her -- >> i think it is a disgrace. >> they don't even ask him one question. >> it is the most rigged system i have ever seen, and i've been talking about it for a long time. it was rigged against bernie sanders and it is rigged even more against me. >> well. >> it is a disgrace. >> by the way -- >> they poison the voters with this kind of stuff and this kind

of junk that never happened. >> well. >> it is not like a question it may have. none of it ever happened. >> obama, al gore, hillary clinton, bernie sanders have all themselves at different points said it is a rigged system. i don't have time to get into it now. i was glad to see the other night, there's so much money that has come from countries like the million dollar gift from qatar. qatar allows marital rape and marital beatings. the up to 25 million to the clinton foundation from the saudis, 10 million from the soudys for clinton library. women can't drive, told how to dress, guys and lesbians are killed, christians and jews are persecuted but she takes the money. you want her to give it back. has anybody followed up on that? >> she should give it back. no, absolutely not. you're not surprised. i brought it up in the debate to her, give the money back. $25 million at a minimum, give the money back. she didn't want to answer that question if you noticed. >> i did notice that. i consider, how can you be the champion of women's rights, guy

and less bean rights, religious freedom and take money from countries that abuse all of those groups? >> sean, you have seen things and i have seen things and i've been going through things i never -- nobody could imagine that this could happen in the united states, nobody could even imagine it. but i'll tell you what, we're going to win the election and we're going to clean out the swamp. you know, i'm using the expression we're going to drain the swamp of washington, d.c. it is a swamp of absolute corruption, it is absolutely corrupt. we're going to drain the swamp. we'll see what happens. we're gone to win. we have such enthusiasm. i just left this rally two minutes ago, i'm sitting in a room about 200 degrees -- i've never seen it, it is like a steam room. >> i know you love that. >> no, it is just wonderful. i tell you what, at least you're on the side of, you know, exposing some of this stuff. the press doesn't want to do it. it is incredible what's going on in the country, but come

november 8th you watch. you saw this arena. it was packed with thousands of people outside. something is going on that's very, very special. plus, three poll als came out ty including rasmussen and another poll that called it the most accurate four years ago, and they say i'm winning nationwide. >> it is a one point lead. i db, investors business daily tip poll has you up by one. they've been the closest in the last three cycles. i do think there are a lot of balls in the air that haven't been factored into the polls yet including the last debate, including the project veritas videos, including i don't think the public is absorbing what i'm showing every night in terms of the wikileaks reveals. i know you have to go. i want to ask a final question and give me as detailed an answer as you can. tomorrow you're going to make a pledge and put it on paper for the american people. you're doing it in gettysburg. >> right. >> give us a preview. what is it about? is it like a contract with america? >> sean, i want to do it tomorrow. i don't want to do it right now.

i really want to do it tomorrow. i can only say we're going to make america great again. we have so many problems. our taxes are too high. we're going to reduce them. our borders are weak, our regulations are crazy, drugs are pouring into our country, people are coming into the country that we really shouldn't have come into the country. we have drug lords and criminals and murderers, and i mean what is going on in this country is incredible. hillary wants open borders where people can flow threw. we're not going to have a country anymore. we're going to do something special and tomorrow i think will be a special day and a special place. >> did you have fun at the al smith dinner? did you mind getting booed a little bit. >> i did. no, look, we say what is true and some people don't like hearing it but we say what is true. there were a lot of different people in there. it was a great dinner. it was a great dinner. i enjoyed it. i thought it was great. >> did you get in tlubl when you went home to melania last night? >> no, i didn't. she was great. she understood. it was probably the moment of the evening. people loved it.

>> all right. mr. trump, have fun on the campaign trail. i know you have more to get to today. appreciate your time. >> thank you. thank you very much, sean. >> coming up next to niept right here on "hannity." >> if hillary clinton gets elected we've got four more years of obama. we have a disaster. we have isis all over. donald trump continuing to go after hillary clinton on the campaign trail. the original insurgent patrick j. buchanan will join us. also tonight -- the department said [ inaudible ]. >> well, that was hillary clinton back in 2010 talking to her staff at the state department about the real importance of cyber security. pretty hypocritical. frank luntz, pat caddell are here with reaction as we continue tonight on "hannity." ♪ hannity.

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♪ we have a bunch of babies running our country, folks. we have a bunch of losers. they're losers, they're babies. we have a president, all he wants to do is campaign. his wife, all she wants to do is campaign. if hillary clinton gets elected, we've got four more years of obama. we have a disaster. we have isis all over. we won't win anymore, and your taxes are going up and she wants to double up and triple up on

obama care, which has to be repealed and replaced. it is a disaster. we are going to start making things in america again. we are going to start making things in north carolina again. we are bringing back our jobs. america first, remember that. >> all right. that was donald trump earlier today at a rally in north carolina as he looks to build momentum ahead of election day. next guest, the original insurgent patrick j. buchanan who penned a new article about the panic within the republican establishment writing, quote, the establishment is horrified at donald's defiance because deep within its soul it fears the people for whom trump speaks no longer accept its political legitimacy or moral authority. joining us now with reaction, the author of "the greatest comeback" patrick j. buchanan. pat, i agree 100%. there's a political earthquake that is going on, and in 20 days

it is going to be a huge discussion about the future of the republican party. one of the things most frustrating to me is when 65%, and every primary poll of republicans saying they feel betrayed he and voting in record numbers for trump, and then the establishment stepping all over him, being more critical to him than either obama or hillary, i think they have totally miscalculated the mood of the public. your thoughts? >> i'll tell you, sean, it is not only the republican establishment, the national establishment has lost the country. trump's great accomplishment is to expose the fact that the establishment of this country is responsible for insecure borders, the masses coming across our borders, invading our country. they're responsible for the trade deals that have deindustrialized america and destroyed the jobs of millions of american workers and responsible for getting us into endless and unwinnable wars and

he exposed the disconnect between the national establishment frankly and the american people. that is a great achievement for him. wikileaks has come along and exposed the fact that the course of the establishment, the media, is basically in cahoots with the hillary clinton campaign and the democratic part. >> pat, will we have learned -- and that's another fight we will have november 9th this year, because this needs to be exposed in even more detail. but of course with election coverage we don't have the full time to devote to it. but you have a republican establishment, a democratic establishment, a globalist establishment and a media establishment that is all sort of in ways we never dreamed of aligned together. it is now all exposed, but i don't think the american people are absorbing the magnitude of that to this point. will they absorb it within the next 18 days? >> you know, i think -- let me say this, sean. the enormous fire and energy and size of the trump rallies, the

magnificent turnout inside the republican party for cruz and for trump, the huge turnout for bernie sanders, the fact that trump as of about three or four weeks ago was tied with hillary and had momentum, that tells you the country wants to be rid of this establishment. the way we are going now, we could get a real possibility that the republican elites who are repudiated in the primaries and in their primary and the democratic elites who basically fixed it against bernie, they will together control the destiny of the country, and we will have a nation whose establishment represents washington, not the nation it is supposed to serve. i think we're headed for some very difficult times. frankly, some of these tactics that you have mentioned on your show about these folks in chicago are really more disturbing than some of the things that happened in watergate. >> you know, i mean look at what they're saying. you know, i just showed this to

mr. trump. you've got hillary's campaign, pat, paying the dnc, paying democracy partners, democracy partners paying an activist group that is on tape bragging about taking credit for violence at trump events, it is organized everywhere. putting in people to intimidate others, and massive voter fraud on a level -- again, both of these things funded by their own words by hillary and her campaign. >> let's talk about the individuals that they allegedly now -- if it is true that they sent people out to start fistfights and maybe ignite a riot and disrupt and destroy the trump rally, if they were behind the chicago thing and if they were paid by the clinton campaign, we are talking about the clinton campaign financing brown shirt tactics in the streets of chicago. i mean they have called, you have been called and i've been called fascist for something we

said. look, i mean, what took place in the attempt to disrupt and destroy a democratic rally, those are fascist tactics in the streets of chicago. i was in chicago in 1968. abe ribikoff used that phrase but he was attacking the chicago cops, sean. but if people are doing this, that is exactly -- that's what gerbels and rome and others did with the brown shirts. >> i want to know and they're saying in their own words, hillary's campaign pays the dnc who pays democracy partners, democracy partners pays for those fomenting violence and scheming voter fraud, is it a fair question what did hillary know, when did she know it, what did her campaign know and when did she know it? by the way, this guy, the operative who oversaw the thing went to the obama white house 342 times. what did obama know and when did he know it? >> the great question is if, was

this guy shooting his mouth off and nothing happened and he wasn't paid for anything and he had a legitimate reason to go to the white house 300 times? but let me say this, i was in the white house in 1968, october 15th, they found the dirty strike ster had been sending pizzas to a muskie rally. we had an emergency meeting in the white house. the fbi was all over this like a cheap suit. where is the -- i mean they ought to immediately have this guy in and take a look at this and talk to the people involved in those riots in chicago and question them as to whether somebody paid them, and does anybody know if these individuals, again, are just shooting their mouth off or they did what they're talking about? i mean they were fired instantly. that suggests to me that the people that fired them know they were up to no good. >> yeah. all right, pat. we're going to watch this. what is your prediction? how is it all going the play out? who do you think is going to win this? >> i think, you know, i think the donald is behind the eight ball right now, and what he's got to do, he has to raise his

polls basically in the general national polls from about -- to about at least two or one behind him, and that's the only way i think you're going to tip the whole thing over. look, he has to win florida, ohio, north carolina. >> north carolina, yeah. >> nevada and iowa, and then he is short by about five if he holds on to arizona. of course, texas, of course and georgia. it is an uphill climb. he knows it i'm sure, as do the folks. i think there's still an outside chance to get that inside straight. >> listen, pat buchanan, nobody thought you would beat a sitting president in new hampshire, did they? >> no, they didn't. but then they beat me in '33. >> i don't know. you could have stopped right there. >> you know, new hampshire -- listen, in '92, sean, i didn't win it, but they thought in the white house i did win in new hampshire. >> all right. pat buchanan, the original

insurgent. thank you. up next right here on "hannity." she said i can't recall 39 times. well, that's a lie because everything there she could recall. >> all right. highlights from donald trump's rally today in pennsylvania. we'll check in with frank luntz, pat caddell, they're here. more wikileaks revelation goes, the leaked e-mails reveal hillary clinton's role in soliciting role for her family foundation, allegedly runs far deeper than we thought. mercedes schlapp and charlie hurt as we continue. go, go!

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years. she lied over and over and over and over. 39 times, right? she said to the fbi on july 4th weekend, not recorded and not sworn in. not recorded and not sworn in. she said, i can't recall 39 times. well, that's a lie because everything there she could recall. >> donald trump slamming hillary clinton over her ongoing server scandal. also today, fox news obtained a video from 2010 showing hillary clinton actually lecturing her staff at the state department about, get this, using cyber security. watch. i think it is the responsibility to as americans, but at state department

employees we have to guard our sensitive information. the [ inaudible ] work around [ inaudible ]. so the real need for cyber security is that we [ inaudible ] the department policy [ inaudible ] to help protect all [ inaudible ] because together we can do our part. >> all right. joining us with reaction pollster frank luntz and fox news controversy pat caddell. mr. luntz, i was impressed, donald trump according to focus groups one twon two of the thre debates. that's a high bar. >> yes, it is a high bar, but the challenge for him now is he's running five or six points behind and, sean, there is still a path. it is a very small one, very narrow one, but that path goes based on rhetorical questions. i'm going to give you three that you can ask again and again

between now and election day. is america safer today than it was eight years ago? does hillary clinton have the honesty and integrity to be president of the united states? and who is more likely to hold washington accountable? if that is the focus, you can change millions of voter minds. the question is, will there be that discipline and will there be that focus. >> does hillary clinton -- what was the last one? >> the last one is who is more likely to hold washington accountable. >> pat caddell, what are your thoughts where we stand? >> i think we stand -- it is a little unclear because the polls are everywhere. i find a lot of them pretty confusing, and i think i understand the business. but i think that he's several points behind probably, but i think that there's more than a small pathway. i think there's a big pathway. the base attitudes in this country are structured against the incumbent party, against hillary clinton and the

democrats. if donald trump can rise to making this a referendum, even bigger than what frank luntz is saying. the real issue here is who owns america, the people or the political class? whose ox is being gored? the people know it is theirs. they believe the system is rigged against them economically. trump has to put these questions and the question of do we continue to go down the road of decline or do we make changes and do we turn -- overturn the corruption in washington. those are huge issues. his problem is he is being way too tactical and not strategic enough in my opinion. >> let me ask you this. do either one of you think that the polls, maybe there's a certain percentage of people that won't say they're voting for trump, or is that just fantasy thinking among trump supporters? i tend to say you've got to believe the polls. do you think there's a possible brexit effect? i say you can't count on it. what do you say, frank luntz? >> i agree with you. we polled in brexit and we had

remaining by two points. for us the key sub text was what percentage of friends and neighbors will vote to leave? by asking that way you're more likely to get an honest answer. if the focus is just on the polls over the next 18 days, nothing will change because in the end voters don't vote on polls. i agree with pat, the bigger the issue, the bigger challenge, the more it is about change versus the status could, the more likely you will get a change electorate. but it requires those kinds of questions to actually move the opinions of voters. >> yeah, i think that's well said. as you have traveled around the country, i know you've discussed this, it is always very difficult for a republican because they've always got to thread the needle unless they can somehow break into and get back some of those blue collar voters that have gone democrat in recent years, get people in states like pennsylvania, wisconsin, ohio locked in and michigan. does donald trump's message

resonate any more than past republicans because he's different on issues involving trade? >> let me give you a straight answer. the answer is yes, his message resonates more. her persona is what concerns people. if it were just about his message, sean, i believe that his language versus hillary's, his position versus hillary's, trump wins. but on the persona they see her as being experienced, they see her as being presidential, and they're not sure about his temperament. >> even though 70% think she is a liar and untrustworthy? >> absolutely. that should be the issue. you raised the point, if that's how they're voting trump wins, but it's not been the focal point over the last two weeks. >> if he does that for 18 days you think he comes back in a big way? >> it is tough because they're not going to be standing side by side between now and election day. >> frank luntz, good to see you. >> thank you. >> coming up, more stunning

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so new revelations from wikileaks continue to expose hillary clinton and damage her campaign. the mainstream media, they're mostly ignoring what is being released but we're keeping very close tabs on it right here on this program. now, here are some of the biggest discoveries from this week alone. hillary clinton personally tried to secure a $12 million donation from the king of morocco under the condition that she'd appear at a clinton foundation function in the country. now, after hillary apparently realized this would be after the launch of her presidential campaign and could hurt her politically, well, she tried to back out but her close aide huma abedin faulted hillary for the fiasco by saying, quote, she created this mess and she knows it. we have long time clinton ally doug ban revealing as a member of the clinton board initiative he signed a conflict of interest agreement but that, quote, bill clinton doesn't have to sign such a document even though he is personally paid by threw

clinton global initiative sponsors, gets many expensive gifts from them, and some of that at home, i could add five different examples of things like that. dnc chair donna brazile under fire for leaking primary town hall questions to hillary clinton in her campaign, in another e-mail she trashed president obama's economy. she said, quote, i think people are more in despair about how things are, yes, new jobs, but low wage jobs, housing is a huge issue. most people pay half of what they make to rent. here with reaction fox news controversy mercedes schlapp, from washington times charlie hurt. i have been saying it about the economy. i'm glad somebody knows the truth about it because they're not saying it on the campaign trail, mercedes. >> no, no. i think there's a sense of let's stay quiet about the economy. i mean president obama and clearly michelle obama since they've been out on the campaign trail for hillary clinton, they've made it a point to

ensure that keep a happy face on and everything is going to be okay, and it is going to be fine under hillary clinton. so i think what's disturbing is the fact that hillary clinton is really trying to -- i don't quite understand her vision, but sell herself as saying she's the one that's going to be able to create economic growth. when you look at her plan, it is very clear, sean, that when her tax plan alone increases taxes, we're going to see more regulations, we're going to see more of the same, which means economic disappointment for americans. >> yeah. what is your take on the whole morocco issue and the $12 million? is that pay to play, charlie, because it seems like it? >> i think without doubt it is pay-to-play. what is funny about it is that it is not surprising at all. you know, as we dig through all of these things, i mean this stuff makes machiavelli come off as mr. smith goes to washington. what i love about all of the corruption, the pay-to-play, the fully using the state department

as a vending machine for favors and massive donations to the foundation, is that this is all being exposed. we've never seen exposure like this of the inner workings of a campaign. of course, it happens to the most secretive campaign we have seen in modern times, and it is so rich that all of this is spilling out on the clintons. >> yeah, could you imagine, mercedes, look at what happened in san bernardino, john podesta said, well, i wish his name was said faruk, i wish it was chris hayes. tony podesta, his brother, chairman of hillary's campaign, notified of an islamic attack at a somalian restaurant, 14 killed, his reply was, oh, i had lobster there. i'm thinking, imagine if trump had done any of those things, and it is one of thousands we're finding. >> it would have been political suicide if there would have been e-mails exposed like that. what disturbs me is that it is

all about politics. it is all about what it is, turning a terrorist attack, a tragedy on our homeland, into how do you best politically capitalize on the situation. and then, furthermore, it goes into the division, the division into ethnicity, into gender, into the anti-catholic bigotry, going after needy latinos, it goes on and on. what the democrat and clinton campaign have talked about branding republicans as extremist and racist and trying to take the party down while they themselves are dividing us up into these categories. >> you know, charlie, on november 9th, win, lose or draw, there is going to be on this program an analysis of how deeply entrenched and corrupt and abusively biassed the news media is as revelations from wikileaks proves, but i want to point out one specific thing, how in 2015 in an e-mail chain

with clinton staffers they were bragging about let's release a speech to the friends in the media to show that clinton's speeches to the fat cats were nothing to worry about p, cherry pick it, release it, plausible deniability, manipulate the media to do what they want, the very people in their pocket. what did you think of that propaganda technique of theirs that was revealed? >> well, obviously it is working. you know, it worked very well with them. but, you know, and obviously this is something that you have talked about for years and years, about the absolute corruption in the media in terms of the way they deal with republicans versus democrats, and in particular with the clintons. the clintons are so abusive of the media and the media still treats them like this, which is amazing. i think one of the things that will happen at the conclusion of this race is that it won't just be people like you or me or mrs.y talking about corrupt media, i think the public because even the public, the people that will be voting for

clinton, they're realizing, yeah, i'm going to vote for her but, man, she is a liar. even john podesta admits she has trouble with the truth. >> i know, it is funny, right. >> it is a breakthrough moment. i think it is the end of the media as we know it. >> exit question. who is going to win this race? mercedes? >> come on, sean. that's unfair. it is going to be tight until the very end. if he can close it down to two points it will be interesting. >> charlie? >> with a dose of hope i'll say donald trump. >> when we come back we need your help with the important question of the day. woe want your thoughts on that question and more, straight ahead. ♪ diabetes can be a daily struggle,

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i have no feel how it is going to play out. it's been such an unpredictable year. we will be back monday with only 15 days to go. that's all of the time we have left this evening. hope you have a great weekend. hello and welcome back. i'm brit hume and this is "on the record." scant new polling out tonight on the presidential race but what there is suggests a race largely unchanged since this week's debate. also tonight, the moderator of that debate our colleague chris wallace is here to tell us what the experience was like. and we'll show you a newly discovered video out that shows hillary clinton warning state department personnel about, that's right, cyber security. at this hour. donald trump is about to speak in pennsylvania, our team will monitor his rally for any news and bring that to you. at the moment, the national polling average shows hillary clinton with just over 6 point lead in a two-way race and just under that, under a 6 point lead in a fourway. the betting odds continue to show her a heavy favorite by