>> we'll be cooking up a little more "happening now" in the next hour. we will see you back here then. >> great to have you, everybody. "outnumbered" starts right now. harris: fox news alert now. leaked emails appearing to reveal turmoil and angst within the clinton world when news broke that hillary clinton had used a private email account as secretary of state, a situation her soon-to-be campaign chairman called a quote, hot mess. all this 13 days out from the election. this is "outnumbered". i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith. meghan mccain. democratic strategist julie roginsky. political editor for townhall.com. guy benson. good to have you back. >> hi, ladyies. harris: good haircut. >> i don't know about that. young and fresh, something like that. harris: all of the above. big political day, are you ready? >> big time. harris: we will begin with

leaked emails courtesy of wikileaks dealing with apparent frustration and fingerpointing over the penchant for secrecy within clinton's inner circle. avenues broke last year about hillary clinton's use of a private server n a telling exchange from march 2015, soon to be campaign chair, john podesta, and clinton confidante, nira tanden, talking about, why she didn't release emails sooner. she wrote this. this is a cheryl special. know you love her but this stuff is like her achilles heal or kryptonite. she can't say know to this [bleep] why didn't they get this stuff out like 18 months ago. so crazy. end quote. to which podesta wrote. unbelievable. tanden answers her own question, i guess i know the answer. they wanted to get away with it. the emails appear to show in

august of last year, months after the email scandal blew up clinton's aides were struggling how to convince her to apologize for it all. julie, i have to come to you first, our democrat on the couch. you have not liked since the beginning this was messy. hot miss what they're saying. >> it's a hot mess. i'm glad they were saying in private what i was saying in public. this is all revealed. this is hot mess. she never have done it. when it was revealed she had done it and she should have come out apologized and she made a mistake. i said this all along, she has allergy to saying she's sorry. that is their words not mine. i may be paraphrasing. they did ask her to do that and she ultimately did it. i get her frustration. same frustration she and other democrats think about this this was calculated decision to do this. once you did it you should have it and apologized for it and

moved own hopefully. harris: guy, one of the other things we learned about the emails, that president obama knew about this, and chatter in the background among the same people how you clean that up. we'll talk about that in a little bit but just overall what do you think about the situation? >> i think julie is right on the money here. the thing that is frustrating though the calculation by cheryl mills and hillary clinton clearly was, set up the scheme for our own purposes. if its ever discovered, hopefully it never wilt be, let's lie about it constantly, if the lies are exposed, quasi-fake apology and not really and try to outlast the thing. near a tanden hit nail on the head. they thought they would getaway with it. they were right. they paid a little bit of political price, protected by obama administration. because donald trump is nominee, hillary clinton looks like she is poised to win. that is demoralizing reality. she will get away with this. harris: the slide got a little

steeper with talk about all this. if they were laying on ground horizontal that is one thing. today it is at a pitch. donald trump is picking on this on the stump. others are talking about this. this is low-hanging fruit. >> i was fascinated about the insight into relationship between hillary clinton and her staff. quite obviously she surrounds herself with yes men and yes women will never call her out on things that are illegal. one. quotes, we're trying to avoid subpoenas. that is very dangerous for a leader who is going to become president. tough make hard decisions f you are only surrounded by people that will kiss your you know what instead of give it to you straight that is problem. all clinton scandals, only sorry when they're caught. they're never sorry doing something illegal or potentially, did in fact sacrifice -- sandra: people close to her that she should be sorry and say something to the public. that being said, who may be working for her in the white house if she is elected president? cheryl mills doesn't have formal role in the clinton campaign

today, but these emails reveal she is intimately involved in the decisions being made for hillary clinton. >> no, cheryl mills is at center of every hillary clinton story. sandra: she could have a prominent role in clinton -- >> i bet she will. of course she will. she has been close and tight with hillary clinton basically her entire career. hillary clinton trusts her implicitly as she should. she has gone to bat for her. she was recipient of highly unusual immunity grants from the fbi during the investigation she played every role imaginable. she was subject of investigation. she was a witness in the investigation. she was given immunity in the investigation. she was hillary's lawyer present in her questioning by fbi. this woman is at center of it all, they gave her a free pass. it is mystifying. harris: she was also, as i understand it, working with classification rights that perhaps she shouldn't have had at that point, if she was looking at this material that definitely had some cs on it. >> untouchable chairman mills. to meghan's point, this is really insightful who will

hillary clinton surround herself with if she is president? will she listen to people emailing privately amongst themselves things is crazy. this is mistake. why didn't they get rid of this 18 months ago. which was sound advice. they didn't take it. she went with the secretive, not sorry advice from the closest people. >> one thing i will say, two people apparently john podesta, nera tan den, at the time 18 months prior involved with the hillary clinton campaign. they're saying they were not there and not involved with it. hopefully they will have people like nera tan den who is very capable and good involved in the administration as a result. harris: they may talk more without email. >> when i worked in the senate, alongside hillary clinton as senator. she had incredible staff second to none. that is good people. >> that is ridiculous. she does not keep good people around her. >> that is total fallacy. as you said people around her. whether they are friends of hers at very least, saying don't do this, don't do things illegal.

she surround herself with yes men and women. >> enablers. >> very competent people. stand by that. best senate staff of anybody i ever seen. sandra: one of leaked email exchanges is raising questions about president knew about hillary clinton's private server even though he claimed he did not and only learned about it watching the news in her words. watch this clip from march 2015. >> did you know about hillary clinton's use of private email server. >> no. >> while she was secretary of state? >> no. sandra: no, he said. after that interview clinton aide chairman mills send an email from john podesta. she said we need to clean this up. he has emails from her. they do not say state got governor. white house press secretary josh earnest, i recognize that some. president's critics attempted to construct some type of conspiracy about the commune

between the president and secretary of state but they failed to put forward a conspiracy with stands any scrutiny. but, donald trump, says the email from mills is evidence that the president knew much more than he lets on. >> obama, he had to know that hillary was using an illegal server but he claimed otherwise. so that means obama is now into the act and now i understand that the despite his hatred of the clintons, because i know one thing, bill hates him, but despite his hatred, now i understand why he pushed her, because he didn't want to get caught up in the big lie. he is caught up now, folks. we have to investigate the investigation. sandra: meghan mccain, how big is this? meghan: i wonder want to know if josh earnest thinks american public are gas lighted to somehow think the president

didn't know anything like this was going on. everything clinton team touches gets infected. i think it blose up into bigger scandal. i don't know why the media is not covering it. sandra: julie, the emails clearly state that the president was exchanging emails with her that did not have government email address. >> my question, when we saw the emails, header says hillary clinton or says whatever her email address was at clinton dot, whatever the server name was. if i get emails from harris faulkner, for example, comes up with harris fogger in. won't come up as email address. comes up with your name. question for me, what did it come you up with email. harris: sometimes it does. like if we email back. >> i -- >> he was using pseudonym in the emails t didn't just auto populate initially. at some point he had to look what her actual email address was, it was @ clintonemail.com

at state.gov. what is interesting, people said maybe they were talking about unofficial business like pals trading kitten gifts. >> i doubt that. >> i doubt it too. so does huma abedin who we learned from the fbi investigations notes she was shown an email between the president and secretary of state and she told the fbi looking at email, how is this not classified? she saw what was going on in the emails in unsecure, non-government system. sandra: president was so definitive in the response you saw there, no, he had no idea he says. that is all we can go by. harris: behind the scenes then if they were looking how they were going to fill in the gap between what he said he knew and what the reality was, that is a hot mess. that is the definition i believe. so i mean, this is, i understand there are 13 days to go and your party is hoping to run out of clock. >> pretty much. harris: this could follow her beyond this. this is insidious in the background. >> in fairness i think it is possible the president didn't know the extent of scheme and

whole private server in a basement somewhere. harris: if he didn't know that he knew her email didn't have a dot-gov. sandra: talk about political strategy. donald trump is pushing this on the campaign trail. >> shows how corrupt she is. she lives by a set of rules and standards and other politicians and other americans do not. i would stay on this messaging and message of huge disaster obamacare is. stay as far away as everything as possible. hit her hard and hit her in the jugular, as hard as he does that i think he could make up points. >> meghan is waiting for pivot. >> i think intellectually disinagainous to say hillary clinton surrounds best staffers when we're using example after example how her and entire team -- let me tell you something, people that work for my father don't believe we're all above the law. clearly staffers that work for hillary clinton not only she but her entire team are immune living and working under the same laws an standards. >> they have been vindicated in

that belief, which is disgusting and reality. >> what is she going to do if she becomes president? it is absolutely pet filing. harris: i wonder if she walks away from these people. this is damaging for her. >> she will not talk way way. harris: how does she deal with. >> listen, these are people she has been with 20 years. she is not walking away from them. >> they know where all the bodies are buried. sandra: shake hupp in 2016. new poll donald trump pulling away from hillary clinton in battleground state as independents appear to move in the trump's camp. when president signed affordable care act it appears to be imploding as many insurers dropping out and premiums set to skyrocket. can republicans seize on obamacare's troubles and will it harm hillary? there is just a few days left. ♪ 80% of women say a healthy lifestyle is a priority.

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to help our children thrive. harris: fox news alert. hillary clinton has just said she does not recognize the america which donald trump is describing. she is alive in lake worth, florida. part of the america that is being described today though is the fact that not only pulled dead heat together in that state, but in some polling donald trump jumped ahead by a point or two.

this is organizing event for hillary clinton in lake worth, florida, right now. she turns 69 today. it is the first time we've heard her on the stump on her birthday. let's watch and listen for a moment. [cheering] >> after all this election is more important to young people than anybody else, and to have you register and then turn out and vote is absolutely terrific!. you know what else? listen to this. more than 10 million people have already voted in this election! [cheering] and two million of them right here in florida. [cheering] so florida's already cast 20% of the votes that have been already in the ballot box. now, i got to tell you, i heard really inspiring stories. i will just tell you one. steven from st. augustine has

been fighting a rare form of lukemia and heart disease. he has been in and out of the hospital a dozen times in the last two years but he told his family, told his friends, he told the nurses and people in the hospital how important it was that he get a chance to vote. so i heard yesterday he ditched his oxygen tank, which i would not have recommended. he clung to his walker, he stood in line, and he cast his vote for a better america. [cheering] don't let anybody tell you they don't have time to vote in this election with somebody like steven making that enormous efforts. and you only see numbers like this when people are motivated

to stand up for what they really believe in and i really believe americans are coming together at the end of this election, and not just democrats but republicans and independents, and i want to thank all of the republicans and the independents who are here today, who are part of making our country better for everyone. [cheering] and you know what? this is not just about what we're against. it is about what we're for. we have a lot of things to be for. it is about a common vision we share, of a hopeful, dynamic, unified america where everyone counts and everyone has a place. so i really believe, it may be my name on the ballot but it really is about all of you. every issue you care about, every concern you have about our country or the world, just imagine that being on this

ballot, it really does come down to who we are as a country. the future of the economy is on the ballot. i believe when the middle class thrives, america thrives. and i have said this for many years. [applause] harris: all right so we're watching hillary clinton and a battleground state of florida and as we told you, the 2016 race is heating up in that state where she is with 13 days to the election day. new bloomberg poll shows hillary clinton is behind donald trump 45-43%. independent voters narrowly moving to trump in battleground state. many say must-win for the gop. guy? >> this is welcome news for the trump campaign. only second poll -- harris: what is the making difference. >> in last 16 that have him ahead. independents big difference in the particular poll.

we'll wait to see if outlyer and beginning of a trend. trump people hope is beginning of a trend. marco rubio up 10 points in the senate race. i'm told internally, numbers are, rubio up four or five. trump down two points. harris: we look at electoral map a few weeks ago, states that were normally republican were pink, not red. arizona, you talk about a trend. trump ahead 46-45. that is march begin of error and it is a tight little bit in his favor. something is shifting. >> i mean, looking at me. if i, ever told me a democrat would possibly win my home state of arizona in my lifetime i would have said you were crazy or smoking something. honestly if i were campaigning him hard in some states. still within his reach to win arizona. problem with donald trump. he has base of supporters. hillary and donald trump need white college educated voters and college educated women. that is the pool left to grasp from. if he is trending with

independents this is good sign for him. he should be hitting hard in some states that are more pink than necessarily just in florida. harris: when you look at a place like north carolina which started i believe, in person early voting on october 20th, last week, you had 10 million people plus already cast ballots. sandra: the woman who oversaw the polling we saw we're quoting in florida, she said, i think this sums it up pretty well, this suggests trump has more opportunity in florida than some think is realistic given poor standing with hispanics. this is real interesting poll. says the race is not done. you do wonder why donald trump is up in d.c. and not down in florida. harris: he is being businessman. rolling out the hotel. still getting a lot of political coverage. you have a big thought bubble over your head. can we go to you first next? >> of course. harris: meanwhile you may have heard donald trump complaining often about what he claims is the unfair treatment from the mainstream media that he gets. the stunning new survey that

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the study as he defended his ticket's criticism much the media. >> brit hume likes to say, winners take responsibility. losers blame others. to try to blame these numbers entirely on media being rigged is not real, is it? >> well, i think, you know, i hear that rif a little bit that, pointing out the overwhelming bias in the national media is somehow, you know, making an excuse. i think just making an observation. media research center just came out with a study of media coverage. it showed since the conventions, i think the number was that donald trump had gotten significantly more coverage in more than 90% of it, had been negative. sandra: guy, already about to start talking. your thoughts. >> they're right about that. the media coverage of trump has been overwhelmingly negative and bias against trump speaks for itself. it is undeniable. i do think it is important to remember though, not too long ago, this same mainstream media gave trump about $2 billion

worth of free publicity and airtime during the republican primary and harvard study went through some of the major outlets and percentage of positive coverage during the primary. cbs news, 66%. "new york times," 63%. "washington post" 65%. then he wins nomination and surprise, surprise, they turn on him. this was predictable, and it is destructive and it is hurting him. this notion that nothing ever affects him, nothing would ever hurt him, some of us argue that wouldn't carry over to the general and it hasn't. sandra: the trump campaign is sticking with this, julie. mike pence went a step further than just slamming the media. he went as far as recent rally calling out individual reporter for colluding with the hillary clinton camp. watch this. >> some of these emails. this guy at cnbc, harwood, after he moderated a republican debate he was communicating with the chairman of hillary clinton's campaign about how he had been

vindicated in his tough questioning of donald trump. you got this person who was at "politico," clinton operative said they could do the most shaping if they reached out to her. the shaping of stories. "vanity fair" just wrote an article touting how "the new york times" and "washington post" brought down donald trump. sandra: julie? >> couple of observations. one is guy is absolutely right. the same media is the reason he is nominee today. talk to ted cruz? somebody going ballistic at thought that the media is turning on him, when -- >> all of them. >> all of them. not just ted cruz all of them. secondly, look, john harwood who i think is good reporter is not on ballot. they're wasting their time going after media because all they're doing is preaching to their own we're. thirdly, this is very important point, if they don't want negative stories about themselves, they will have always negative stories, i'm not pretending media cover him fairly i do think the media has certain bias but i also believe one way to get media not

covering sex scandals, stop proactively bringing them up. when donald trump stands up at podium suing women, supposed to talk about bringing country together at gettysburg, guess what media focuses on? your sex scandals. everybody in the media brought it up. we talked about it on the very couch the other day because of the fact he goes to gettysburg. supposed to give overarching speech. harris: you talked about it on the couch as democratic guest. >> the problem here if he doesn't want the sex scandals covered don't bring them up. move on maybe the media moves on with you. harris: many of us had moved on to the intense email dump that has come from both the fbi and the wikileaks. go ahead. >> some of these journalists he pointed out i think it is fair to call out people like john harwood, people in "politico" who are emailing hillary clinton's campaign and giving them advice saying great things about hillary clinton. that is, in every conceivable way political malpractice and should be grounds for firing some of these people.

all of that being said, one of my favorite quotes from the movie, primary colors, the media giveth and the media taketh away. you live by the press, you die by the press. you have a message, candidate, campaign is stronger when the media will inevitably turn on you as they do all republican candidates everywhere. it's a liberal media that we live and die by. sandra: we want to highlight this moment from last night for those who didn't see it. a big moment on "the kelly file" when megyn kelly and newt gingrich got into it over media coverage of donald trump. the former house speaker slamming the fact that the networks spend more time on negative stories about trump rather than accusations against bill and hillary clinton. watch. >> my point to you, as a media, as a media story, we don't get to say 10 women are lying. we have to cover the story sir. >> sure. okay, so it is worth 23 minutes of the three networks to cover that story and hillary clinton and in a secret speech in brazil

to a bank that pays her 225,000, saying her dream is open border where 600 million people could come to america. that is not worth covering? >> that is worth covering and we did. >> tames of your show recently, you are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy. >> me, really. >> that is what i get out of watching you tonight. sandra: didn't end there. then came this exchange. >> you want to comment on whether the clinton ticket has relationship to a sexual predator? >> we, on "the kelly file" have covered that story as well, sir. >> i asked you use the words, bill clinton sexual predator dare you. say bill clinton sexual predator disbarred by the arkansas bar. disbarred by the arkansas bar. >> excuse me. >> $850,000 penalty. >> excuse me, sir, we on "the kelly file" have covered clinton matter as well. we hosted kathleen willey. we covered examples of him being accused as well. but he is not on the ticket. sandra: that exchange happening last night. we've all had a chance to watch

it. julie, your response first? >> well, i was on megyn's show night before we were talking about the very subject because the trump campaign pulled their spokesperson to come on to talk about. think could have opportunity to respond to it. they did not. secondly, this is going to sound a little ungracious, i find it fascinating that the messenger of the trump campaign is sending out to talk about sex scandals is talking about obsession with sex is newt gingrich who at the time he was impeaching bill clinton for sex scandal was involved in his own secret sex scandal having an affair. sore, but that is reality. maybe newt gingrich is not the best messenger to talk about obsessions with sex and sex scandals. sandra: there a lot of talking for sure happening about this today. trending on twitter. everybody continues to get caught up what happened last night. i want to let you know donald trump has now responded. congratulating the former speaker on what he said last night. listen to this. >> by the way, congratulations, newt on last night.

that was an amazing interview. [applause] that was an amazing -- [applause] we don't play games, right, newt? we don't play games. sandra: meghan. >> very uncomfortable watching that exchange. felt like i was watching my parent fighting. i'm big fans of both people. i see newt gingrich saying we spend as much time and attention on these leaks and sex scandals. i understand you're talking about 10 women coming out with really insane allegations against donald trump. also responsibility of megyn kelly to cover it. that being said, this conversation that they had, this argument they had i think people in america are having this argument right now. i think this is lens into argument people on left and people on the right are having. i wish we would focus on hillary clinton. >> obsession with sex line was a little silly there, i think from newt gingrich. there were piping hot takes on social media last night when this was all going down, with people seeing what they wanted

to see. newt gingrich destroyed megyn kelly. megyn kelly made newt gingrich melt down. what i saw my eyes and ears intense exchange between professional journalist and partisan in the final weeks of a very emotional campaign. i get that. i don't think that either one of them won the exchange. they both did their job. sandra: fair enough. harris? harris: interesting. i wish i had seen it in the context. by the time i saw it, right, i'm flipping around, we were watching games and stuff last night. it already had commentary with it. it was loaded, as you put it, with that commentary. so i had to kind of put all of that aside, watch video on its own and i agree. 13 days to go, i'm not surprised to see a person who is surrogate, supporter of donald trump, coming from that point of view that hard. that being said, he took it personal. and that has somewhat backfired at times during this campaign. it will be interesting to see how this goes. >> you know, find somebody, you

want to stay on subject, crazy to stay on it trump campaign, get kellyanne conway. >> get a woman. >> a woman. more importantly not somebody who is not rudy joule or newt gingrich who doesn't have the same skeletons in their closet. >> megyn kelly was wrong. i don't have anger management issues. i have media bias issues. some calling it political gift for donald trump and republicans after the white house announces obamacare premiums will skyrocket by double digits next year. an the gop take advantage of this news? could it be a game-changer? less than two weeks left. ♪

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the they hope to seize all those surging costs to help them on election day. while barnstorming florida yesterday donald trump are slammed obamacare and saying it is blowing up and hillary clinton wants to double down on it. >> it is killing our small businesses and killing individuals, it is no good. deductibles are so high, you can't use it, you will never get to use it. it will get worse and hillary clinton wants to keep it. she wants to spend a fortune on it. she wants to keep it. and your numbers will get up, up, up and it will get worse, worse, worse. repeal it and replace it. harris: clinton's communications director jennifer palmieri, says hillary clinton wants to fix the law. hear that is. >> she has a plan that would help address making health insurance more affordable, go through public option and medicare buy-in. we shouldn't do what donald trump wants to do, throw

away the gains which have made in terms of people having access to coverage and, and also protection that the affordable care act provides in terms of lifetime limits, limits of lifetime costs and covering preexisting conditions. harris: tell you, it's a rare day when the feds and the health care companies, insurance companies all get on the same page. we saw it with unitedhealthcare, with aetna and others there were problems with the premiums and people were going to suffer. when she says retain all the good things it has done, what about all the millions of people coming off roles right now because companies aren't going to play in the same way? >> the law is failing on its own merits. that spin from the clinton campaign is literally laughable. they're saying she has a plan to fix this. this is her plan. people forget about this. president obama when he was candidate in 2008, he put out a different health care plan. the obamacare plan with individual mandate tax, that was hillary clinton's proposal. she is the godmother of

obamacare. now it is spiraling down as we predicted that it would. she is going to ride in here, don't worry, everyone, my plan is failing. let me fix it with more government, more spending. i don't think so. every republican down ballot should be hammering away at this. kelly ayote in new hampshire has a great ad out today. they should be following the lead. thank god trump is talking about it. >> most effective campaign ad for my father's campaign is boeing after obamacare. i don't think this is republicans, democrats are responding to. i couldn't said it better. the . when your husband is going out on talking about what a disaster the obamacare is the idea you will quote, fix it i don't believe it. she should get as far as away from it as possible and need entirely new plan. harris: what is interesting about what you're just saying when bill clinton said this was craziest things he ever seen, paraphrasing him own a tiny bit, because i'm pretty sure that is what he said. he didn't say this is how my

wife would fix it. i would imagine, jewelly in a short little while to go back and clean that up. might have been interesting to get honest take he was giving, give an idea what the plan would be. sandra: turning this into politics today with 13 days left to go, if it has been such a disaster since the inception, we've been reporting on all problems it had why would we expect this is going to have any significant impact on hillary clinton's campaign with a few days left if it hasn't had that. of an impact up till now? >> because of the report came out two days ago, with double-digit premium increases. sandra: do you expect a big political impact? >> i think it is having a political impact. it requires focus of the campaigns and republicans can say last time republicans lost really badly and democrats controlled everything was 2008 and in 2009 and 2010, the democrats jammed this thing through. we can not give them control of the government again. >> here is the problem politically and advantage politically for republicans. advantage politically this came at precisely right time. you're absolutely right, if republican stay on this

non-stop, not talk about all myriad of things donald trump -- >> make again kelly. >> talking about sex scandals how he would sue women this would be good idea to do 13 days non-stop. the problem these premium hikes are not going to be felt until next year. theoretically people you're going to be screwed. people screwed already don't like the plan but they're baked into voting for, that is not what you're voting on. not hitting pocketbooks. harris: they're already having this conversation. >> they're not. harris: i'm not going to plan for next year. i will wait before it happens. >> no. unfortunately polling shows it repeatedly tax hikes or anything else, until it starts property tax hikes -- >> levels are coming down. bills are arriving in the mail. >> not arriving new rates significantly probably early next year. >> you're wrong about that. harris: conversation is happening right now. i would say this though, because i hear you say it, i hear others say it, that donald trump is not staying focused on this. if you have watched the last few of his stump --

>> it is no the complicated. stay on message. harris: he is talking about this. >> asking him to pivot. >> the problem is, even if he is staying on it stump speech today, what is trending on twitter is megyn kelly and newt gingrich. harris: he can't control that from the stump. >> yes you can. >> yes you can. i think you can. he also commented to newt gingrich. great interview last night. stay on the specific messaging. harris: that is true. >> don't respond. harris: we'll move on. hillary clinton dodging subject of obamacare troubles sitting down for lighthearted interview on unvery-- univision audience. some of her answers are raising eyebrows. we'll talk about. then your rates go through the roof. perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. liberty mutual insurance.

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real mexican food. >> clinton also pointed out her granddaughter, charlotte, who just turned two is learning spanish. >> she learned words. [speaking spanish] >> her father -- and mother and -- [speaking spanish] >> so when she is in the south somehow has miraculous southern accent. when she is on the brake fast club, talks about carrying hot sauce in her purse like beyonce song. she is anybody at anytime. harris: that is strategy, right, julie. >> i have context to make. i too love mexican food. my son is learning spanish. i'm and iring to latino community. >> this is trend what she does depending on audience. >> of course she is politician. lo and behold politicians pander be. harris: is that strategy fired back in all of your years.

>> if you do it subtly, probably not. harris: remember how we saw her walking into chipotle where nobody recognized her eating mexican food. >> i guess it is true she loves mexican food. i don't know if chipotle is the mexican food. >> you guys are so cynical. there is no pandering here. hillary clinton is just an authentic mexican. she loves enchilada from time to time. you're all over her case. sandra: got to kind of tell you, i agree with julie. i love mexican food. >> i love mexican food. most controversial thing i ever say on the show? best mexican food is in boston, cambridge, massachusetts. >> come to arizona. sandra: your head will explode. harris: air son is border state. is this something your dad feels need to do? >> no, it doesn't work. for average american watching a univision, if she is saying -- harris: what matters?

same thing matters to everybody, economy. >> that is what works on top of everything else. by the way, that is blasphemy to say mexican food in boston. tp in arizona. i have seen it. >> video of her dancing? harris: in tucson. >> that was -- harris: the point it is not cambridge, massachusetts is is what you're saying. sandra: likes a good marry you have achy brand. >> >> southern trend in the south talking to black radio show, keep hot sauce in her purse, lyrics from popular beyonce song. this is trend she does over and over again. wears yankee caps in new york. cubs caps in boston. harris: not the same thing. don't talk about the cub. >> i know nothing about baseball. i'm not going around with different hats pretending i'm anything else. harris: i wonder when groups of people, blacks, latinos, when they look at the state of their lives in the economy and how they feel, and things that

you're constantly talking about with us, sandra, about that is really why people go to the polls? this kind of stuff matter. sandra: i don't know that kind of pandering if it is that or truthfulness, will it win over any voters. they care about immigration and economic issues. >> only thing i care about right now, getting a quesadilla because i'm starving. harris: transparency. we're coming right back. >> thank you. meghan: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. harris: i told ya. you don't let anything keep you sidelined.

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harris: 13 days to the big showdown and already we've been talking about, millions of people have done early voting. so this is really going to be interesting going in because

we'll get to find out all the answers. great to see you. >> thanks for having me. this was great. harris: i do love the haircut. >> you're kind. sandra: thank you, guy benson. harris: that will do it for us. see you back here on tv tomorrow at noon eastern. "happening now" now.