michelle obama in north carolina. key battleground states. we'll be watching and we'll show you a little built of that when we're back. >> 12 days to go. we'll see you back here in one hour. >> "outnumbered" the starts right now. sandra: fox news alert. closing the gap, and on to me. this is "outnumbered" by the way. that was harris faulkner. harris: really? sorry. sandra: until election day, a new "fox news poll," showing donald trump cutting hillary clinton's lead in half, as the candidates ramp up their attacks on the campaign trail. all right, officially, this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. here today, and there she is. harris faulkner. harris: i'm here for you, babe. sandra: host of "kennedy" on fox business, kennedy. former national security councilmember unpresident bush and obama, gillian turner. today's #oneluckyguy, iraq and afghanistan veteran and fox news contributor pete hegseth is here and he is "outnumbered".

harris was trying to figure out what was going on. you were working. the cam was on you for a second. harris: i'm sitting next to pete. so i'm happy. it's all good. >> you distract me every time. sandra: you have your pumpkin orange tie. magic socks as well. sandra: well-accessorized. harris: are we 12 days out? sandra: unbelievable. can you wait. let's begin with this "fox news poll." it's a new one. it finds hillary clinton now leading donald trump nationally by just three points, 44-41% in a four-way race. last week the democratic nominee was up by 6 points. two weeks ago hillary was leading by 7. all this as candidates continue to slap each other on the trail. >> he says not paying taxes makes him smart. well i don't know, i don't know how smart you have to be to lose a billion dollars in one year. besides, what kind of genius loses money running a casino for

heaven as sake. >> here is woman goes home, goes to sleep all the time. think of it. she has no energy whatsoever. she make as speech for 15 minutes. she goes home, goes to bed. she has less energy than jeb bush. [cheering] sandra: pete hegseth is losing it over here. >> i love it. amazing political theater. sandra: full belly laugh. >> yeah. it is. he is making a closing argument if you want to be strong, if you want a strong leader who is engauged come to me. the best thing donald trump has going for him in these last 12 days, is hillary clinton. reality of her for the next four years. every voter with hesitation of about trump has to walk into the ballot box to say, am i ready for that or will i go with my gut? that is what trump folks ares hoping for, over the period of time they will walk away from hillary clinton if he has continue to show strong performances. sandra: they're both trying to grab the undecided voters out there. i want to make sure to let

everybody know, if they didn't know, that you hadn't supported donald trump all along. >> no. sandra: you made the conversion. >> i was rubio guy. cruz guy, never hillary guy. i guess trump. i will probably pull the lever for trump. this to me is election is about america, whether we fight and save for it. it is not conservatism or leftist. do we have country tore not. do we support our cops or not. do we rebuild military or not. do we have borders or not. do we support the national anthem or not? we're having cultural clash. sandra: you're saying this is much different election than we've seen. "harris polling" shows, this is really tight race with 12 days to got. harris: that makes it traditional which might be only way it is traditionallal from what we've seen this season. you interjected, what about women -- don't any of those. i heard you. i want to bring you into the conversation here. what pete is listing, none of that was irrespective about

women. women care about the military and economy. i was curious you ask what about women. >> people is talking about this unprecedented host of issues we're dealing with. i agree, especially on national security front. we were talking about this morning, how do you reconcile yourself this, is question i asked of myself and my girlfriend, how do you reconcile, forget about the tape even from two years ago. how do you reconcile his attitude towards women with all the other issues? i believe, i think a lot of people aren't realizing it yet, terrorism is women's issue. women unfairly across the word bear the brunt. harris: terrorism is everybody issue. >> it is but greatly and deeply affects women not widely appreciated. >> i would answer that just briefly. you don't have to own everything donald trump said or videotape 11 years ago. i'm not okay for that. i'm not voting for pastor in chief. i'm voting in that context. >> doesn't his attitudes towards half the american population factor into his ability to lead the nation?

>> i also look at women that are around him said he conducts himself professionally and obviously he has made mistakes. we've seen those on full display. that doesn't have to be full content. sandra: consider polling today. fresh "fox news poll." do what attribute donald trump shrinking margin? is he staying on message? kennedy: couple things. people have much shorter attention span for scandal they have in even recent past presidential elections. and something, i think, a lot of this is cleverly timed by opposing campaigns where, they find people who have stories and they put them before the media and media jumps on it. but i think something that the clinton campaign didn't bank on some of this would actually fade before this really crucial window. because if you think about it, two weeks before the race, that is when a lot of people are really starting to tune in. maybe they caught one or two of the debates. if they caught that final

debate, very adeptly moderated by fox news's own chris wallace, they saw what was essentially a draw that was about a lot of issues. so if donald trump can keep the trumpisms to a bit of a minimum and keep the scandal and verbal controversy at bay for next two weeks he can certainly slice into the remaining lead she has got in this poll. harris: you put it so deliciously, short attention span for scandal. you could apply that across the board. champagne on the posterior of kim kardashian, blew up internet. next day we were talking about something else. sandra: thank you for that image. harris: salaciousness, we've seen it. >> remember how donald trump closed out second debate where he actually said hillary clinton, i commend her for her stamina. he is undercutting what he is saying now. he likes to reverse -- she is tired. kennedy: she doesn't quit and is a fighter than different than stamina. he says she takes too many naps and days off.

harris: we'll move on. guess what, wikileaks, released a brand new batch of hacked emails. this shows big concern over hillary clinton's email scandal. july 2015 email exchange, clinton confidante neera tanden wrote to campaign chair john podesta over her concerns over a cnn poll, at a time when hillary clinton's trustworthy numbers were taking a hit. tanden wrote this, quote. do we actually know who told hillary she could use a private email and has that person been drawn and quartered? like, whole thing is bleeping insane. there were cuss words in there. i tried to talk around it. fast forward now to more than a year. new fox poll finds a majority ot trust hillary clinton. here it is. a whopping 67% do not find the democrat honest and trust worth i this. this coming very same day as another batch of emails appear to show bill clinton aides pressuring foundation owners to give the former president

business opportunities. you have a couple different things going on here, pete. >> you sure do. it appears a very small circle were behind the idea to do the private server which doesn't change -- actually should reinforce what terrible judgment she has, what a bad decision that was. that was a decision driven by hillary clinton to say i don't want these communications shared with anyone. pins it even who are on her. this wikileaks stuff, unholy mix for hillary clinton. trump is setting the ship. every day she has to deal with a new batch. not that the american people are obsessed with them, but white noise in the background, if you can't trust her, she plays by her own rules the sim is rigged that does add up. harris: kennedy it is interesting, this election cycle donald trump has taken a lot of heat for not necessarily listening to people behind the scenes. this points out some of that same heat should be thrown hillary clinton's way. they were trying, according to emails we're seeing released to have conversations about what

was right and what was wrong. not just this batch. previous ones. not everybody. but ones we talked about yesterday. did they think she would get away with it, blah, blah, blah. i think it is interesting those types of things really could be brought on to her too. kennedy: it highlights the internal struggle and competent people she has around her that have issue with the system she created that really sicko fannic , neera tanden who okayed the server, whose idea was it? i bet it is cheryl mills. if it is not cheryl mills, whoever it was will be senior policy advisor in the white house. that means they will be affecting national policy. that will have direct affect on our lives. they have got questionable judgment they have not sufficiently answered for. sandra: they highlight her questionable judgment. one of the emails we looked at yesterday, called into question her instincts and this is within her circle asking that question.

to your point, kennedy cheryl mills doesn't have official place in the campaign but if hillary clinton elected in the white house, you have to assume one of these yes people, cheryl mills would work in a hillary clinton white house. you look at emails you realize who she would surround herself with as president. harris: at least somebody she would check in with. she had friends she would check in with, they weren't supposed to have access to her in the state department. the fact she would check in with somebody makes sense. >> part of what constitutes good leadership when we talk about president, not just that you never mess up, that you never make a mistake. everybody is going to do that. how you take accountability and responsibility and deal with the aftermath. what i really, what rankles me the wrong way about this was, when you, even, you know, after the news broke about the email server, a mad scramble to try to assign blame all over the place. first it was the i.t. guy who was subpoena under up on the hill.

then it was colin powell who fought back against that. now, there is always this sort of panic to try and pin it on somebody. that is kind of what bothers me, even more than the original sin which was decision to set up the server in the basement. >> very good point because this has always been a campaign about a person rather than a cause. get hillary clinton into the white house come hell or high water. what does she stand for? we're stronger together. what does it really mean. harris: that is interesting, a person not a cause. #i'm with her. we'll move on. remember jonathan gruber the obamacare architect, he is back and apparently has more to say. why he claims the law is working as designed, despite skyrocketing premiums that start next year. plus donald trump sitting down with his family for a revealing interview as he prepares for the final stretch of the campaign. will it move the needle in this very close race. and, facebook live will be sitting there talking. you can join us.

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♪ kennedy: welcome back. you know who else is back? jonathan grubbier. he says -- gruber. deny the fact that obama care premiums will sky rocket he says the it working as designed. he said the stupidity of the american voter helped the bill pass. he insists surging premiums will impact only small number of consumers. he says anything done at all raising tax penalty for those who doesn't buy insurance. >> the law is working as designed. however, it could work better. and i think probably the most important thing experts would agree on is that we need a larger mandate penalty. we have individuals who are essentially free riding on system. essentially waiting until they get sick and getting health insurance.

kennedy: meantime donald trump continuing to hammer of issue on the campaign trail saying obamacare was flawed from the start. >> real change begins with immediately repealing and replacing the disaster known as obamacare. [cheering] that one's not even close. and hillary wants to double up and triple up. what a disgusting situation. and it was no good. it was no good the day it was conceived. kennedy: but hillary clinton has repeatedly said repealing the health care law is not the answer and she wants to fix it instead. all right, pete, here is the issue i have with what jonathan gruber said. he wants the federal government to force people to buy insurance. that is what the mandate is. >> of course. kennedy: says the mandate is not coercive enough. people are not being penalized enough for opting out of the

system until they really need it when there is catastrophe. a lot of people realize it is less expensive to pay the penalty than actually get insurance especially now when in places like arizona premiums spiking 116%, not to mention deductibles. talk about that there. >> the mind of a jonathan gruber a technocrat, not that their designs could be wrong but the american voter around people are still stupid and need to be told what to do. that is the ruling class mentality. in minnesota, premiums are up 60, 70%. you have only one provide most places. one choice. kennedy: that is not a choice. >> that is not a choice. that is not freedom. exactly what we would say would happen. cost goes up, choice goes down. people aren't going to want it because they don't have the option. kennedy: sandra, the bottom line here, jonathan gruber again despises the dirty working-class people who were on the exchanges, those who do not receive federal subsidies. i says small sliver. half the people who have

obamacare insurance didn't get it on exchanges. sandra: to your point people have learned it is less expensive for them to pay the penalty and wait until there is a catastrophe to actually get health insurance, and that his idea to fix this, i can't even believe he said it out loud is to raise the penalty then? that is the idea of how to fix it. donald trump though, while he is hitting this hard and it is working for him, appears to be, needs to be a little bit more specific. this what i read when i see all the criticism of obamacare, we need to get rid of it and replace it. what is exactly is he saying going to do about it. >> repeal is not necessarily the right way to go here. i'm not a defender of obamacare, but since i'm playing devil's advocate today, you can't turn around to 15, 20 million people who have health insurance who didn't two years ago and renege. what happens to them. harris: they won't be able to afford it. that is the problem. actually donald trump if you go to the website, he has been talking maybe not as much in detail you about the plan is aligned with keeping what is

working. you should go and read it. it is one of the things outside of foreign policy where he doesn't, he is a little thin on that he says i don't want to give away too many secrets. i think he targets very well with obamacare what his ideas are. >> people tease lines around the state. competition around states really does matter and does change the game. one thing in fair just, we always believed the left wanted to fail it because they really want single-payer. medicare for all. they say these things knowing it will not work. they will come with a bigger. kennedy: do you think bill clinton and president obama would admit obamacare if they didn't want it to fail? that is exactly what they want to happen. they want to turn health care into the va. that would be disasterous for the rest of the country. final step of the election donald trump is trotting out his family. melania and the kids doing a sit-down interview answering a lot of questions. whether it helps win over voters, he is slamming reporters

that questioned him leaving campaign trail to open his hotel. he says no one seems to care hillary took time off to go to a concert. whether the mainstream media are being unfair giving a double-standard? stay with us. all finished.

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>> yes, i believe that. because to accuse somebody without evidence it is very hurtful. honestly, do we still need to talk about that? i think american people want to hear the problems that we have in america. >> she is so right about that. so right about that. >> they want to hear what we do to make america better. talk about jobs. talk about secure our border. sandra: then the rest of the family joined. here is ivanka and don, jr. >> we're very proud of our father and what he's accomplished. it is amazes. >> when you look at the people he is touching on a daily basis, fixing america is so bigger than any of that regardless. >> i never in the past seen him fail. this is obviously on another level. sandra: harris go to you on this. we've been having conversations with recent days and weeks especially since video surfaced that we hadn't seen or heard

much from donald trump's children. here we are 12 days left, he has them back out on the trail. harris: this kicks off simultaneously something else going on in the campaign. women for trump are back out there in florida. they go to north carolina and florida, and ohio. talking with the campaign i tell you this is in concert. they are aware of the criticism they wait adlong time. i wanted to piggyback off something gillian said how much women do or don't care about lewd comment and that sort of thing. 63% in recent polling of women said that is not going to affect the way they voted. they will be voting for donald trump in this particular poll when asked about whether videotape with the lewd comments mattered and some other things. it is interesting, we always talk about the economy. it really comes down to that. this timing of the news about obamacare is a gift to this particular campaign right now. sandra: let's go back to the second to last debate, it was the second of the general election debates, second of the three, the last question, they were asked to say something

complimentary about each other. even hillary clinton was complimenting donald trump's children and the way they have come up. so will this help him? >> what better compliment? yes. more kids, please. i think they are a great demonstration, of a father and family of a somebody who clearly values his kids. they're great spokesmen for him. so i think there should be even more of this, especially women. ivanka and others get out there attest to who he is in public and private. that he doesn't have a public and private position like hillary clinton does. he is respectful. i think it is all good and should keep rolling. sandra: will this help? >> absolutely. i think all the children do a great job, particularly ivanka. i think you have seen her in a spate of ads recently because she is so well-spoken and connects with people very easily. i actually grew, i went to ballet school her growing up. we shared a part in the nutcracker. >> pull the tape. pull the tape. >> we were alternates, we shared

a part one year. knew her as a kid. she was very sweet. i think they do a great job for him on the campaign trail. i think they should be out there every day between now and then. sandra: will it help, kennedy? >> yeah, i absolutely think it does. the fact you're talking about his family and children being well-spoken and not scandal. jpmorgan chase there is one in three chance we'll be in recession. he is considered better handling the economy than hillary clinton. if he stays in those two lanes it will be better for the last two weeks of his campaign. >> to your point, a lot of people haven't been paying attention. we all judge at some level, when you see kids out of control, you look at parents, right? i think america will look at these kids, hey, what a greatbatch that must reflect well on mr. trump. harris: women for trump by the way is run by donald trump's daughter-in-law, laura trump. you have extended family on this you will be seeing too. new questions of media bias

after donald trump took some time off the campaign trail to attend opening of his new hotel in d.c. yesterday. cnn's dana bash asked him a question that did not go over so well. >> to people who say you're taking time out of swing states to go do this, you say? >> i say the following. you have been covering me for the last, long time. i did yesterday eight stops and three major speeches. and i've been doing this for weeks straight. i left there for an hour 1/2. i'm going to north carolina right now. i'm going to florida. i'm going up to new hampshire. for you to ask me that question is actually very insulting because hillary clinton does one stop and she goes home and sleeps. and yet you will ask me that question. i think it is a very rude question to be honest with you. harris: trump also said in separate interview that hillary clinton went to see adele in concert tuesday night and no one questioned her about that. meanwhile the democratic nominee had something to say about trump's hotel detour. watch.

>> i was struck today that donald trump is actually paying more attention to his business than to the campaign. that is his choice but we're going to keep working really hard to reach as many voters as possible. sandra: can i take that for a second? harris: please, please. sandra: it absolutely is his choice. he would be criticized by employees who count on him to have those companies thrive so they get a paycheck every week, okay? so he has an obligation as a business owner to make sure that those businesses are thriving. it doesn't mean he just sets it all aside because he is running for president. he does have obligation and responsibility there. harris: can i ask you too? you have interviewed some ceos and leaders of company on the fox business network. it is not out of character for somebody to be also looking out for their brand while they do other things. you interviewed people. bloomberg ran for office. you didn't see the bloomberg brand ignored. sandra: publicly-traded company your number one obligation is to your shareholders, board of directors.

the obligation is to your shareholders. in the case of donald trump he has a lot of people who count on him and families that count on him to make sure businesses are thriving. i will defend somebody who makes sure their businesses are running sound. kennedy: hillary clinton can't have it both ways. yesterday she is attacking him because she says he lost a billion dollars in a year and failed at running casinos. how can anyone who run as casino lose money? she criticizes him for going and servicing one of his businesses. so she really has to choose her line of attack there. it also goes to show, this is one of my biggest pet peeves with politicians, they know nothing, not only about business and the economy, but they don't know how to run a business. >> exactly. sandra: harris: a lot of what we talked about this campaign season is earnings and speeches she is giving and her own income. >> for talking. this is great politics. this is exactly what he should do. by the way i run a multi-billion dollar company and build hotels

under budget an on time. which is exactly what he said. this is right contrast. just because it was not campaign stop, doesn't mean there were 40 cameras broadcasting entire event across the country. harris: there were. >> i think this is campaign event. harris: some criticism came for donald trump and governor pence was on the trail in utah, a state arguably he might not be able to win with the electoral vote count. it look ad though donald trump was not working while mr. pence was, except for the fact he had two rallies later. >> also a lot of american voters, certainly some, i will speak for myself are not used to seeing a presidential candidate that's also like a major ceo of a huge corporation and there is a lot of kind of trepidation around that, right? you have to remind people thisth is not sub-saharan african company. doesn't mean our lead remembers corrupt because they have successful businesses they run while they're politicians.

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♪ >> welcome back, top republican congressman jason chaffetz appears to be on the trump train. after yanking his endorsement over crude remarks republican nominee made about women but now the house oversight chairman

says he will vote for trump overall. hillary he says, is that bad for the country. all this as chaffetz says he has years of investigations planned if clinton wins the presidency. he is telling "the washington post" chaffetz says we have two years of material lined up. she has four years of history at state department and it ain't good. she is not getting a clean slate. not like the state department was bending over backwards to help us understand what is going on. we have document destruction. their own rogue system. classified information out the door. we have their foundation doing things, who knows what. kennedy, first to you, is it harmful for candidates to off the trump train and off the trump train and back on. what does it say? >> it makes you look wishy-washy. make up your mind. if you're off, stay off. he is in unique position. he is from utah, state very close, evan mcmullin the independent candidate a lot of conservatives are backing he could win utah.

chaffetz saying he will vote for trump, that is signal to some of his fellow republicans in his home state in order to beat hillary that's what they have to do. it is more about that.

if she doesn't win the presidency, and she has really broken the law you have to go after her for the most egregious law-breaking. that is what they have to do if she becomes president. you shouldn't impose a double-standard there either. if she has done something so bad you have to set a precedent for the future, do it regardless of whether or not she ascends to the thrown. >> if you do it for the american people you will continue effort regardless who is in the oval office. harris: nuance i caught with you, kennedy, pick your battles in a sense. pick the ones with a most evidence. don't throw a basket at it. that is weird world. just throw a bunch if she should

become president and hope some stuff sticks. >> i agree with that. harris: different word other than basket. like i don't know? >> bucket? bushel? harris: okay. >> bushel is not used enough. >> that's a good one. >> we'll bring it back. very biblical. donald trump doubling down on comment he made in the last debate about need for element of surprise in our military strategy. not holding back in response to military expert who says trump has it all wrong. stick around. ♪ i'm terrible at golf.

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harris: more "outnumbered" on this friday eve. let's go to my friend jenna lee with what is happening next hour of "happening now." >> trump rally expected to kick off in springfield. harris: ohio. poles show a slight edge for the traumaticket. we'll take you there live. chris wallace joins us with that. hillary clinton on her campaign plane this hour. she is on her way to campaign rally for first lady michelle obama who has become one of her strongest surrogates this season. mike pence headlined a rally in omaha but expected at a fund-raiser in new york, could raise as much as one million

dollars for the trump campaign. a lot to watch at top of the hour. harris: we'll be watching, thank you. >> whatever happened to the element of surprise, okay? we announce we're going after mosul. i've been reading about going after mosul how long, hillary, three months? these people have all left. they have all left. the element of surprise. douglas mcarthur, george patton spinning in their graves, when they see the stupidity of our country. >> donald trump's comments at last debate sparking criticism from a military expert, former dean of the army war college telling "the new york times," quote, what this shows trump doesn't know a damn thing about military strategy. the republican nominee was asked about that on "good morning america" where he doubled down on his original comments and took a dig at that military expert. >> why can't they win first and talk later? why do they have to say three months before the attack we're going in? so you can tell your military

expert that i will sit down and i will teach him a couple things. >> so he says it is dangerous to broadcast your plans in advance but here is something else to chew on for a second. he tweeted on sunday, this is like, i think three or four days into the ongoing offensive against isis in mosul that it was turning out to be disaster. well the news flash for mr. trump, when you're president you don't get to declare defeat while you've got troops on the ground. americans out in harm's way that is actually deadly. that really upset me about these comments. i think he needs to reflect on that a little bit. harris: that is fair criticism. not only would you not forecast defeat you wouldn't forecast victory either. you have men and women on the ground. >> that is actually deadly. harris: we're playing a critical role what is happening in mosul. isis is running out the backdoor we created for them. they will nest in raqqa where they have been the scorpions.

i think that is fair criticism. >> you have served been out in the battlefield talking about defeat. >> during 2007, iraq surge, harry reid declaring war lost as warfighters surging into baghdad changing the game. that is not acceptable on this comment i think trump is saying a sentiments in a lot of military we have political generals, we forecast our strategy and fight with one hand tied behind our back. that the military is social petri dish as opposed to war fighting institution. harris: he should say that then. kennedy: that is what you're talking about. that is not what donald trump is talking about. >> he says it differently. >> point of clarification here, donald trump saying don't broadcast your plans ever. but general robert scales said actually, this is cordon strategy, you have to broadcast this, we're trying to save a million civilian lives so people don't get caught up. you create more cash the was. and you have to -- casualties, you have to section by section

get to heart of the city and isolate people you're fighting and also create hallway for refugees to get out. >> there is also a big difference between broadcasting your ground strategy or battle strategy and broadcasting a general strategy. you're trying to settle american people the voters, that national security and terrorism is the most dire threat we face today. you know what? you owe the voters a decently thought-out plan, tells us, give us a road map. sandra: let voters decide what they think about his military strategy at this point. clinton said his disrespect for our military knows no bounds. you are convert, now support donald trump. what are you hearing? >> look at military members, vets are overwhelmingly for trump. they know clinton years, the way the military was treated. they remember that. disrespect hillary clinton shows to secret service agents and others they don't want that. with donald trump they see

someone stand broadly and salute be proud of the troops unleash them. there is definitely a strategy to let, military you let people know to minimize civilian casualties. frustration we have with that, drop leaflets on oil tankers against isis because we don't want to bomb those with civilian casualties. they feel like we're fighting politically correct wars. harris: we've done that before, when we did that in history, drop leaflets to let people know that they can get out of the way. >> got excessive. harris: the political side you're making. sandra: any moment now, donald trump he is scheduled to take to the stage in battleground state of ohio with only 12 days until we go to the polls. have we mentioned that this show? yeah a few times. 12 days, everybody. we'll take you to him live when he begins. and this white house campaign has got emotions running very high, if you haven't noticed. sometimes causing high tension among family and friends but never fear. hillary clinton has got the remedy.

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♪ sandra: i promised on twitter there would be a dance party. >> you delivered. sandra: leading to a dance revolution, we're not making this up, people. interview with syndicated radio show "the breakfast club," hillary clinton says we need a quote, national dance party to heal the nation. listen. >> i keep telling people i want to close the deficit. one of the deficits i i want to close is the fun deficits. got to close the fun deficit. i'm sick of meanness. why don't people who support my opponent have fun dancing. do you think they dance? i think we need a big national dance. >> i'm with you. sandra: big national dance party, gillian with the hot sauce. >> that was other part of the clip, interview. sandra: talking it yesterday. harris: talking to black voters. >> so much pandering. >> it's a little painful but i

agree. i agree to idea i have friends on both sides of the aisle and we can fight and have arguments about policy. have arguments about emotional stuff but at the end of the day everybody wants the same thing which is stronger america, better america. harris: shake your tail feathers. >> there is nothing wrong with having a little fun. >> organized fun by hillary clinton. hillary clinton managed prom we can all get to go to with lots of rules and regulations. kennedy: we have so many dance parties in the white house. sandra: former mtv-d.j. what a party. >> i love to dance. harris: give us a move. this friday. >> it is friday. and i like seeing my friend, charlemagne, he is asked her tough questions throughout the political season. unfortunately they wanted to keep it light for her birth party, blah, blah. she panders to people. find her office, says whatever she thinks they want to hear

which is problematic. because you have a candidate a lot of people find to be very unauthentic. >> or she loves to dance. >> no chance. sandra: harris loves to dance. what is wrong with the idea? harris: i do love any excuse to shake my tail feathers but i will say, what is wrong with ising some positivism? it can come from everybody. >> i am all for positive. not fake, national dance parties by hillary clinton. harris: you don't think hillary clinton can dance? >> i would like to see that tape, if somebody talk it. >> she danced on ellen. it was horrific. did the ney, ney. >> danced with the cameras off. >> she dances and harris sings. >> national karaoke party. >> i like that. >> sandra: pete hegseth, thank tha. gillian, awesome to have you. harris: will you karaoke with me? sandra: overtime on the web. find us on facebook

dot-com/outnumbered fnc. we're back on noon eastern. the dance party starts now. "happening now" starts right now. aleppo. >> he said it is necessary to get the terrorist nest in the city. >> an addict's last you refuge. heroin, the not so quiet epidemic. >> can operation granite hammer make a difference in the hard hit state. >> plus, the fight to liberate iraq's largest city. >> why kicking isis out of the mos pul is only the first order