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i'm paul gigot, hope to see you right here next week. donald trump's worldwide tour of nine states in the last 72 hours before election day, he's heading to reno, nevada, this evening, after events in florida and north carolina earlier today. we're going to check in with our own campaign's carl cameron on the trail. >> hillary clinton focusing on just a handful of battleground states in her visit, including right here in florida, wrapped up a rally just about two hours ago, heading off to pennsylvania. all of this as wikileaks releases thousands more clinton e-mails this weekend. >> and we are taking our show on
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the road today. two battleground states, both florida and ohio. welcome to this very special edition of america's election headquarters. i'm elizabeth fran in cleveland, where all votes up for grabs in the state with 18 electoral votes. leland? >> and from the windy shores of lake erie, you can see elizabeth all bundled up there in her jacket. welcome to miami beach, folks. it's sunny and 80 degrees here, folks. florida always a battleground state, in a must-win for donald trump. his -- donald trump's campaign feels as though florida is a must-win, as well. the clinton campaign feels like if they can take florida, which they, right now, feel very confident they can, they think that will end things pretty early in the night.
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as you know, liz, our own chris saying just about 11:00 p.m. was the over/under when we know how all of this will shake out tuesday. the one bellwether state that always seems to go with the victor is ohio. something that i know you've spent a lot of time looking into, over the past day or so. >> right. and we had a professor on earlier, who noted that really, ohio is the microcosm of the nation. and so you're seeing both candidates put a ton of attention here, especially here in cleveland. we saw hillary clinton here, last night. there was a jay-z and a beyonce concert. we see her coming back tomorrow, where we know that she's going to be campaigning with lebron james. so, certainly, a ton of attention in ohio. and also right here in cleveland. now, clinton's rival, donald trump, also begun his day in florida. he's doing a four-state blitz, that takes him across the country to key battleground states. from florida to north carolina, then out west to nevada, and denver, colorado. that's where we find our own fox
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news chief political correspondent, carl cameron. hi, carl. >> hi, elizabeth, welcome to denver, your hometown, mile-high city. it's a tremendous sprint that's underway by both of these candidates. it involves thousands and thousands of paid staffers, tens of thousands of -- actually, hundreds of thousands of volunteers, the trump campaign plans to knock on 4 million doors between yesterday and today and this weekend, with literally 100,000 shift hours of volunteers. the clinton campaign is significantly larger than that, and they say that to win a presidential race, it takes three things. money, message, and organization. trump has not spent as much money as hillary clinton has. but he's gotten a tremendous more news attention than hillary clinton has. because of his dominance of the air waves during the republican primaries and since. and then there's the message.
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and donald trump's travel message today, or his strategy and his message is really depicted by his travel. today, he started in florida, on the i-4 corridor. it's the biggest concentration of voters in florida. it's the most demographically representative of the country in florida. it stretches across the pennsylvania. he started -- he starts in tampa, and runs across florida, through orlando, to daytona beach. whoever wins the i-4 corridor will win florida. and if trump wins florida, he has a shot at winning on the electoral college map. what he has to do, quite simply, is flip pennsylvania. which was won by obama in 2012 and flip florida that was won by obama in 2012. and win all the states that mitt romney did. if he does that, trump can actually pull off a victory. from there he went to north carolina. north carolina is a state that romney won, but it's one that trump has to win as one of the states that romney won, with that strategy.
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later today, he'll be nevada, where there was some bad news delivered by ron ralston, the state's premiere political recorder, who basically did an analysis of the early voting and absentee voting in nevada and concluded that the democrats have a huge, huge lead, perhaps an insurmountable one. and in ralston's view, is pretty much toast. and later tonight, he'll be here in colorado, a state where the polls have been see sawing back and forth. hillary clinton has had the more historical advantage here. so much so that several months ago, she stopped her tv advising in coloradoally didn't campaign here for several weeks. trump caught up, she put her ads back on tv, and now it looks like he has a little bit of a deficit and a little bit of catching up to do here in colorado. tomorrow, he's going to go to minnesota. he had been planning to go to wisconsin. even house speaker paul ryan said he's going to join him there. trump has decided to cancel that vet and instead going to minnesota. the trump campaign thinks they see some momentum there, so they can expand into blue states,
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literally flipping states that have been democrat in the case of minnesota for decades. >> carl cameron, appreciate that report. >> you bet. >> let's bring in donald trump jr. live with us from trump tower. appreciate you joining us, sir. good saturday to you. >> likewise, likewise. how's it going? >> it's going pretty well. the question is, how is it going for you? i'm in miami beach. you're in the middle of a campaign. three days until election day. what's the strategy here? we see this switch now with your father going to minnesota. what does the campaign know that perhaps the pollsters haven't figured out yet? >> listen, i think we see a lot of momentum in some of these traditionally blue states. i think we have a lot of opportunities there. so i'm going to virginia tomorrow, not necessarily another state that you would expect to be doing well, but we are. and i think it's because, candidly, people are sick and tired of politicians. and that's a bipartisan problem. i think both sides have failed the american people so often that i think our message of
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change, of having a real outsider come in to d.c. and break up that system is something they're looking the forward to. >> well, you talk about people being sick and tired of politicians. your father has made it very clear that he is anything but that. and you see that from the very beginning. take you down memory lane, a little more than a year and a half ago, when your father came down the escalator at trump tower and announced that he was running for president. we're playing that video right now. a year and a half ago when you saw this, did you ever think we'd be here three days before a general election? >> right now we've lost donald trump jr.'s audio. you're looking here at pictures of donald trump as he was there down at trump tower. do ef-with donald trump's audio?
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his son's audio back, guys? >> we don't have his audio back. we'll keep working on it there in terms of what we can get. this happens sometimes. you have us in florida, donald trump jr. in new york. >> it does happen. >> and the control center there in washington, d.c. now says we have his audio back. your audio is back. i'll ask the question. a year and a couple of months since your father walked back down the escalator to announce his candidacy. did you ever think you'd be here now? >> listen, i've learned not to bet against him. it's been an honor and a privilege for me to go around the country and meet people who have been so affected and/or disaffected, frankly, by washington, d.c. politics. but honestly for me, for my brother, my sister, it's changed us a lot. when you see people who have gone through what they've gone through, when you see the people who have lost so much hope in their government and you see that glimmer of hope in their eyes that you may be able to change that around, it's pretty amazing. it's been a very humble and a very special year for us. >> we often talk about the
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commander in chief test. and whether someone running for president can pass that test. but there's another role, as our kevin corke at the white house often points out, the president fulfills. and that is, the comforter in chief, at times of great national crisis, great national sadness. and you think about ronald reagan after the challenger explosion. you think about bill clinton after columbine and oklahoma city bombing and george w. bush after 9/11. give us an anecdote from your childhood that says your father is ready for that role as well. >> honestly, you know what, i see it not so much even in the family. family, that's going to be obvious. but i see it in the way he's created his employees. we have people that are executive in our organization, they started off, they were blue collar people, but he saw something special in them. he saw something in them, a work ethic, an innate talent or street smarts, he promoted them and kept giving them more and more. now they're high-level executives.
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but they didn't go to college. they don't have some sort of fancy degree behind their name. it's that kind of opportunity and that kind of talent that they probably didn't even recognize in themselves that i've seen my father -- he sees it and latches on to that and gives those people opportunities. very few executives, if any, would ever give to someone that doesn't have those other qualifications. i've seen him do it time and time again. i think it's that kind of opportunity. i think it's that kind of ability to see something special, to see a talent in someone, that's what america's looking for. that what america needs to have unleashed. . there's so potential there that's been kept down by the elite in d.c., by over-regulation, but bureaucrats sitting anywhere a-conditioned offices in the beltway, telling people around the country how they should be running their businesses and making them have teams of lawyers and accountants to be able to do basic tasks. >> don, i need to get in one more question. and it dovetails off of this. so many folks that we talk to, even republicans, a young
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millennial republican that ed with on the show last hour said, look, i think hillary clinton's a liar. i think she's a terrible person, i think she's a criminal. all things that your father has said that she agrees with. at the same time, though, she says she is not yet convinced because of sort of his unorthodox campaign style at times. where's the disconnect between the man you just described promoting the young blue collar worker up to be executive and this young voter. what's the closing argument? >> i think the disconnect is, they haven't seen him in that capacity. the old, walk softly but carry a big stick. well, we're in a situation where you have to use the big stick, okay? my father coming in as an outsider taking on the liberal media, taking on the clinton machine. taking on the corruption. taking on the d.c. elite, on both sides. that's a rare opportunity. that's not something we're going to get again in our lifetime. someone who's willing to take on the system. an outsider who can come in and fight his way to the top to do that. he has had to be a fighter.
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but i've also seen him be an incredible grandfather, seen him be a comforter. he can do both. i don't think you can do it in this process, against the odds that he's fought against. against the machine that he's fought against. and all we want to do is end the corruption in d.c. we knew it was going on, but we're running against the most corrupt candidate in the history of the presidency. and i think the american people have had enough of that. >> well, certainly, a number of the voters in florida, we've heard and talked to on miami beach have expressed that. donald trump jr. from trump tower, i know you've got a long 72 hours ahead of you on the campaign trail. good luck, sir. >> thank you very much. >> thanks so much. and we heard donald trump jr. talking about hillary clinton. fair and balanced, as always. clinton campaign surrogate phillip levine, who's the mayor of miami beach, who was just at the hillary clinton rally here in miami will be joining us in the next half hour to respond. don't miss it. over to liz in ohio. where the rain is coming down in
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miami. >> yeah, this is a fox news alert. vice president joe biden is speaking right now to voters in bristol, pennsylvania, trying to shore up votes there in a very crucial swing state. as you know, all hands are on deck. let's listen in live, now. >> we're in a situation where if any one of our -- if any one of our kitchen tables you turned and you said something like, um, you know, because i'm the star on a football team or i'm the star -- i'm the guy who has the most money in the class, or i'm -- that i have a right to go ou and grab women any way i want to. you'd get knocked off the chair. no, no, no. really. really. if you didn't speak with dignity in your house or my house, your dad may not use the same
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expression, but whoever's a guest in your home is a guest. and you're not allowed -- in our household, you weren't allowed to make fun of anybody because, like me, i stuttered a lot as a kid. or you weren't allowed to make fun of anybody because they had a cleft palette or a clubfoot or they had some problem. my mother used to say, everybody, joey, has something. everybody has something. but you know what? the idea to my dad and mom, if they were here, that the major republican party, one of the two major parties, the grand old party -- it is a great party, the party of lincoln, that somebody with that nomination would be getting up and -- and this is not for applause, this is a simple fact. get up at 3:30 in the morning and tweet with veitriol about a woman's body and about what a pig women are. >> you have been listening live
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to vice president joe biden. he's speaking at a get-out-the-vote event in bristol, pennsylvania. you can see he's really getting the crowd riled up there. he's hitting republican candidate donald trump very hard, as you know, he's stumping for hillary clinton, the democratic nominee. all hands are on deck. there are surrogates all across the country and they're having live events between now and tuesday. so, of course, we're keeping an eye on all of those and wii continue to bring you the latest from the trail. i'll pass it on to leland now. >> well, those events, with everybody from president obama, michelle obama, jay-z, beyonce, even king james heading to wisconsin to campaign with hillary clinton. hillary clinton has a two-point lead over donald trump in the latest fox news national poll. that is, of course, within tb margin of error. the democratic nominee herself hit florida this morning, and will be in pennsylvania tonight,
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as she will monday night, making the closing argument. those two states, as we heard from carl cameron skpz and as w heard from donald trump jr., have a lot of voters, have a lot of electoral voters that could truly change this race. fox news correspondent jennifer griffin on the trail with hillary clinton. >> reporter: leland, rain cut short one of hillary clinton's event here in florida near ft. lauderdale, but she did have a moment to speak on stage with sybrina fulton, the mother of trayvon martin. >> you are a hearty bunch to stand out here in the rain! i don't think i need to tell you all of the wrong things about donald trump. but here's what i want you to remember. i want to be the president for everybody! everybody who agrees with people, people who don't agree with me, people who vote for me, people who don't vote for me! >> reporter: 5.7 million votes have already been cast here in all-important florida. as of today, democrats are up
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7,000 votes. that's how close this race is. early voting ends in some florida counties tonight. hillary clinton's first stop here in florida was in a neighborhood called little haiti. that's where she spoke to members of the african-american community, a key community in their get-out-the-vote effort. >> let me just say, because i know we've got work to do today. we've got to knock on doors. there has never been a more important election when you stop to think, as jean said, about who we are as a country. i think we're stronger together. and i think the diversity of america is a great gift and blessing. so i will fight every single day to provide greater opportunity here in florida and throughout america, for all people. >> reporter: the campaign turned to stars like jay-z and beyonce
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along with well-known hip hop artists to get out the vote in cleveland, ohio. last night, it was a mostly african-american crowd there and will be crucial to voting on tuesday. clinton goes to philadelphia later today for a get-out-the-vote concert headlined by katy perry and stevie wonder. love trump's hate is the message today. we're also hearing that in florida, there is a surge in latino voting. that could make the difference. the real clear politics average right now shows clinton up by just 1.2 percentage points here in florida, where there are 29 electoral votes. trump needs florida if he's going to win the electoral map. back to you, leland. >> jennifer griffin on the bus. it was a little rainier earlier. that's why hillary clinton cut short her event here in miami. and there's another rainstorm, you might be able to see, that's just moving over miami beach. and jennifer brought up this very critical issue here in florida, which is demographics and how this state breaks down north to south, with a very deep red north in the panhandle from the i-4 corridor of orlando,
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daytona beach, and tampa. and obviously, as we move farther south, the one thing that makes this difficult to poll is, and they have the same issue in ohio, is how is demographics have changed from 2012 to 2016, as there's more hispanics, younger hispanics here in florida, and especially a growing puerto rican population. there's a lot of debate over the pollsters, about how much of each group to try to include in those polls. and then, of course, comes the question, how do you weight those separate groups, which is why we're seeing things so tight, and both campaigns saying, hey, the other guys have it wrong in the polls. i'm assuming you're seeing the same thing there in ohio? >> yeah, we do. and ohio is incredibly diverse. we spoke with a professor earlier, and you know, we see hillary clinton hitting specifically cleveland very, very hard. there's other parts of the state where she may not fare as well, so her time may not be well spent there. but we're also seeing a lot of emphasis on those independent
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live pictures from a somewhat rainy miami beach.
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we have the mayor of the city of miami beach coming up here in a couple of minutes. see if he can't work on the weather for us. in the meantime, boy, has this election had so many surprises, whether it'd be james comey's announcement from the fbi, wikileaks, the donald trump tapes, so much has happened and it's still happening as people are starting to sort through the latest wikileaks e-mails, as they are more that have come out this morning. in all, over 50,000 of john podesta's, that's the chairman of hillary clinton's campaign, 50,000 of his e-mails have been released. our kristen fisher has been carefully combing through every last one of them to find the most interesting tidbits and joins us from back in the studio in washington. h hi, kristen. >> wikileaks has been releasing these e-mails for almost a month now. and from the dping, one of the most concerning elements for the clinton campaign is what these e-mails reveal about the clinton foundation.
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today's release is no different. check out this e-mail from jennifer palmieri back in april of 2015. in it, she makes the case that clinton should not do a video defending the foundation. here's why. quote, i don't think it's a good idea for her to do. there aren't great answers and in many cases, not her place to answer them. the fact that you have clinton's communications director saying there aren't great answers to questions about the foundation and its donors is a big deal. and a clear headline here. palmieri then goes on to give suggestions as to how clinton should frame her responses for any accusations of pay for play. she advises clinton to go on the record and say if any donors gave money in hopes of influencing the state department, then they're foolish, because she never did and never would. at least this way, she would have taken off the table any notion that there's a quid pro quo, even if some donors may have had bad intentions. palmieri herself was actually the subject of a separate e-mail released today, it's from campaign manager robby mook. and it appears to show that several top aides, including the
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candidate herself, were not all that interested in hiring her back in january of 2015. quote, honestly, h., short for hillary, joel, and jim aren't as keen on jen. so i know that's definitely some inside baseball, but it gives you some insight into perhaps the level of awkwardness that these wikileaks releases might be having within the clinton campaign, just three days before the election, leland. >> yeah, you can imagine all of those conversations they're having on the plane, reading what everyone has said about each other. kristin fisher, live in washington. kristin, thanks so much. liz has more with how this is playing with voters. >> yes, with us now to discuss how the ongoing clinton fbi investigation and latest wikileaks release might affect voters' decisions on tuesday, we have colleen mccain nelson, white house correspondent at "the wall street journal." colleen, thank you so much for joining us. i'm excited, actually, that you're on today. i want to focus politically on the political fallout. and we've heard trump say when
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he's on the stump that if she is elected, obviously, the investigation would shadow over her term. and especially if we donate see more wikileaks, those conversations would continue. so does he have a point? >> well, he does. and the thing that is working in donald trump's favor is that there's no evidence that any of this is going to be wrapped up by election day. so because there aren't clear answers, donald trump can raise any sort of scenario and say, what if this happens. what if congress investigates her and find this? what if they determine that she mishandled classified information in a criminal way? and so he can offer up all these different scenarios and there's no definitive answer. and so these questions continue to dog her, voters don't know what the answer is. and both the fbi review and the wikileaks releases both have served to kind of reinforce many voters' doubts about hillary clinton and reinforce some of her weaknesses and ideas that she's secretive, that she
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doesn't play by the rules. and so, this has certainly dogged the clinton campaign and is not going away between now and tuesday. >> that's what i was going to ask you, from your research and reporting, with all the information that has come out, you know, kristin fisher said a lot of it's inside baseball, but does it give us any insight on how a clinton administration would operate? how it would operate behind the scenes? and how the bigger players would operate? >> it does. this is kind of a strange look into the inner workings of a political operation. and we don't usually get to these things. and it's a little awkward to be reading these private conversations. but you see some of the criticism within the clinton camp of allies clashing or criticizing each other or even allies criticizing hillary clinton. and so, i think that people do have questions about who exactly would serve in a clinton administration, because the clintons have been in politics for so long, they have a huge
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circle of advisers and allies. and so, these e-mails give you a sense of who the players are in a clinton world. and who might be important in an administration. >> you've been following her campaign from the beginning, so i want to ask you, how has her having to respond to these alleges rattled her, especially this late in the campaign? i mean, before the latest fbi announcement, we had leaked reports that she was looking at as secretary of state, and who that could possibly be. so we went from talking about how her future cabinet could look to the fact that the fbi was reopening an investigation. so, how has this really rattled the internal workings? >> right, i was on the clinton plane the day that comey's letter came out. and the clinton campaign certainly did not see that coming. they were absolutely gob smsmac by this announcement. so it did throw off their planes. at least for a few days, they had to scramble and come up with a new strategy in realtime. so for the first few days after the fbi announced that it was
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revisiting the e-mail issue, the clinton campaign struck back, by going after comey, by raising questions about why he did this, how he handled this, and basically saying, this is unfair, this is inappropriate, and hoping that that would fire up her voters. and more recently, in the last few days, they've kind of shifted back to status quo, and they've started attacking donald trump more aggressively and not mentioning the e-mail issue. so, they've gone back to just attacking donald trump and not talking about this. >> i'm so sorry, colleen, that's all the time we have left for your interview. i hate to cut you off, because it's so fascinating. thank you so much for joining us and i'm sure we'll have you back before the election is over. thank you so much. leland? >> and speaking of ohio, where liz is, early voters turning out in droves in the buckeye state. we're going to tell you why the old line, "it's the economy,
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stupid" is driving them to the polls. >> the economy and jobs, making sure everybody works. you know, get everybody working. creating jobs like she's talking about. that's the thing. >> and when we return live to miami beach, mayor phillip levine here with us on whether hillary clinton's get-out-the-vote effort is doing just that.
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to say ohio is a bellwether is an understatement. the buckeye state boasts a voter demographic almost identical to the united states. campaigns pump millions of dollars into political ads to shore up votes. but at the end of it, it's all up to the voters. here in cleveland, for voters, it is all about jobs. some voters were gracious enough to share their voting decisions with us, their thoughts and their opinions outside a polling station here in downtown cleveland. >> i would feel comfortable with someone in office who has the experience of dealing with nations, wars, health care. >> if there was somebody else running against hillary besides trump, i probably would have. but i was just so against him that, ultimately, it just -- >> if turnout is big, then
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hillary will win. if turnout is not as big, donald will win ohio. it's all going to be on turnout. that's what it's going to be. it always has been when it's a light, like midterm elections, republicans dominate. when it's a heavy general election, democrats tend to dominate. >> and leland, everyone who we spoke with were educated and they were thoughtful about their decisions. we had a few people who did not want to go on camera. one of them was a 23-year-old retired -- excuse me, retired after 23 years in the service. she said she did not want to go on camera with her vote, but she did say that it was all about experience for her. so people are very personal, obviously, when it comes to their voting decisions and a lot of them aren't taking it likely. and we also saw, like you did, a lot of families coming to the polling stations this morning. so if anything, folks are engaged, they are educated, and they are interested. >> well, you certainly get same
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feeling down here in florida, in terms of being interested, engaged, and realizing as they've been informed by so many of us, that their votes in florida and ohio could truly choose who the next president is, informed also by every television commercial possibly on-air in these states here in terms of exactly what is at stake, at the expense of millions and millions of dollars. in the end, they'll actually come up with an average of how much was spent per vote in florida, 5.7 million people have already cast their ballots, and both candidates have, of course, spent a lot of face time in the sunshine state, especially donald trump, today. we saw both trump and clinton, donald trump visited tampa, a city in the crucial i-4 region, the corridor that goes from daytona beach, through orlando, down to tampa. that is in yellow on your map. and the home to hillsborough county, which has predicted the president the past 19 of 20
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elections. 40% of florida voters live in that i-4 corridor. hillary clinton spent her saturday in friendly territory, a democratic stronghold just north of miami. you can see there in blue. early voting goes through tomorrow in some parts of this state. the question now, can democrats get out the vote to overcome what is obviously what we have seen here, are some of donald trump's fervent supporters, especially up in the panhandle of florida. here to weigh in, miami beach mayor and hillary clinton campaign surrogate, phillip levine. mr. mayor, always nice to see you, sir. appreciate it. as the rain comes down here -- >> there's never rain. >> we call it liquid sunshine. >> there you go. so now we know you'll spin just about anything. spin for me early voting in florida. >> let me tell you what i know right now. miami beach south is a microcosm. the early turnout vote is going to be literally twice as much as it was in 2012, and miami beach is historically a very strong democratic city.
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>> now, what donald trump's campaign will say to you, absolutely, turnout is huge, and that is because there are so many absolutely fervent trump supporters who won't tell you they're voting for donald trump, but they're coming to the polls. >> in donald's alternative universe, that may be true. but in the reality of the world today, we don't think that's true. there are so republicans, i hear it every day, that are voting for secretary clinton. so as far as dade county, right now, over 100,000 more democrats have voted as opposed to republicans, that's big. these are historic numbers. and as you know in the state of florida right now, the hispanic turnout, which is decidedly very democratic going for secretary clinton is up 30%. >> now, is it up 30%, you think, for one of which reasons, a, there's more hispanics, puerto ricans have moved in, especially into the orlando area, which is heavily republican territory. is it because hispanics are sort of incited or outraged by donald trump, and therefore they are motivated to turn out?
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or there are simply more hispanics? >> i think it has to do with the fact that donald trump has come out as being very anti-hispanic. he wants to build a wall, he wants the 11 million folks to be sent home. he has degraded an a federal judge of hispanic heritage. so you put those together, they're saying, we want nothing to do with donald trump. and the african-americans, the same situation. >> let's talk a little bit about florida as we move north, in terms of the i-4 corridor. and our carl cameron, it's hard to argue with his political expertise, as it goes so far back, who wins i-4 wins florida. a big part of the i-4 corridor, i used to work there in orlando, is the african-american population. and every number we've seen shows african-american turnout is down in florida, it's also down in north carolina, it's also down in ohio. >> i have to disagree. right now african-american turnout is up 22% in florida. it is actually going up. i did an african-american mayor's bus tour two weeks ago
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with great african-american mayors from around the country. they came here, the enthusiasm is tremendous. tomorrow we have soles to the polls. all the african-american churches, we're bringing in a tremendous amount of them to the polls tomorrow. it's going to be very significant. i think the enthusiasm is there. president obama has been here nonstop, going out there and campaigning. there's a lot of problems going out on the trump camp. the head of transition is facing a federal indictment charge, chris christie. i'm not exactly sure where he's actually going to do the transition, maybe that's going to be in jail, but we don't really know yet. >> in fairness, he was cleared, but your point is well made -- >> donald's judgment. donald's judgment is very poor. >> let me ask you this, though. the other person who has shown questionable judgment as times, as said by the fbi director, was secretary clinton. and there's a real question in terms of, if all you're saying is true, why is this race -- >> so, do you mean after a year investigation, when he fully cleared her? >> he cleared her of any crime -- they haven't und some back up
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seen or possibly have seen? i mean, come on. let donald trump focus on the e-mails. we're focusing on what affects the american people. that's what secretary clinton's about. >> is that what we're going to see in this final argument? >> absolutely. let donald go with the e-mails. secretary clinton is about how does she raise the middle class and make america better for everybody. not t not donald trump's 1%. >> we know you were on the trail earlier and sure you'll be out there tomorrow, as well. >> absolutely. >> thanks, mayor. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> liz, back to you, in a little bit chillier ohio, where it rained, it's windy, it's cold, it's miserable and that's why people come to florida. >> that's right. when "america's election headquarters" returns, battleground states like florida and ohio, we've been talking about the whole hour, could be the tipping point that puts hillary clinton or donald trump in the white house. we'll take a closer look at how the electoral map is shaking up. stays up with.
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jim, i want to pop up your predictions on the screen and then i want to ask you this question. because the last time you and i had this discussion, there was a path to 270 that hillary clinton was taking that seemed a lot more effortless, and now we can see there, she's not getting quite as many as you had predicted before. 294. so still over 270. but i remember, at one point, we were talking up in the 300s. so what's changed for you? >> well, i mean, certainly, the comey effect, which is obvious. i think that right after that, her poll numbers started to crater. and in some regards, when you look at the internals of the polls, what we were seeing is that non-college-educated women were starting to go towards trump. and so, the map i have probably a few weeks ago was probably one that was the best for hillary clinton, the best outlook for her, and that's no longer the case. she's not going to go 350, 360, 370, 380.
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at best, i think she may get about 320 electoral votes. she probably will get around 280, 290, potentially, but the question is, can trump come back. and i think that the answer to that is, yes, there's probably about a one in three chance that he could pull it off. but he's not going to get anymore than, say, 272, 273. >> okay. and i want to talk about a few specific states with you, but first and foremost, i had read a stat that real clear politics says that six states have a margin of error -- or a margin, rather, of two points or less. in 2012 and 2008, it was closer to four states. and six states, i mean, that could be the possibility of seeing a surprise on voting day. six states is a lot. >> well, it feels like a fool's errand at the election time almost every four years, where political consultants on the left and the right say, hey, pennsylvania is within two points, republicans get on a plane to bucks county,
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pennsylvania. and they don't win. i think that, you know, michigan is likely to go to hillary clinton and has for many, many years, gone to the democrats. the same with wisconsin. i just am skeptical when i see polls that have it that close, but if you look at the average from the entire election, she's been leading in every poll in michigan. so that's what i look at, most. it's not necessarily one or two at the end, but the entire polling for the election. >> all right. well, jim, i have about five more questions for you, but i'm getting the wrap cue in my ear, and i know you're familiar with that, so i'm sure we'll have you back and thank you so much for joining us today. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> leland? >> all right, from liz there in ohio to here in florida, the presidential candidates are, of course, driving voters to the polls, which could help or hurt the rest of the names on the ballots. the so-called down-ballot races,
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hillary clinton may have top billing on the tuesday ballot but the results of the race could also effect the outcome for races in many other states including right here in ohio. how are things shaping up ohio? i think you are the perfect guest for this particular segment because i want to know what down ballot races across
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the board. what those candidates are facing. because if they are facing it here in ohio that is a challenge they are probably facing across the country. especially with these two candidates. >> no question about it. i think in r in most cases during presidential races you would find voters are more engaged, more interested and more likely to turn out to vote. this election cycle we're seeing the opposite in down ballot races. so that is what makes this election cycle unique to 2012 and 8 just by look at the data alone. >> do you think it is because they can't get their issues across? are their issues not getting across? is it not about the issues? >> combination of two things. first the issues but i also think who would have thought both major parties would have nominated candidates so unfavorably viewed in the eyes of the electorate. i think that's trickled down to disinterest among the average votes. that's balleting a big role this year. >> i've been reading reports from the local candidates in
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ohio and they said listen we can't breakthrough the noise. we can't raise enough to get on tv and if there are ads out there they are from either presidential campaign and they are personal is that true you are hearing that? >> not only is it personal but it is also very negative. and making it a challenge for our local issues that impact the wallets of average voters that impact the households. more challenging to get local issues to get across. highly personal and highly negative ads a the top of the ticket are leaving people very disinterested and the down ballot issues are much more challenging to get across. >> you have worked for a number ore other campaigns and other cycles have you ever seen anything like this. >> nothing like in the this there past. to see such level of the disinterest and the unfavorable rating at the top of the ticket. it's made our job as political strategists and consult abouts much more challenges.
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sno. >> thank you for coming on. >> welcome back to cleveland. >> thank you. appreciate it. so you joined us for the better half of two shows today. we've covered all of the battleground states specifically focuses as you can tell on ohio and florida. 18 electoral votes up in ohio, 29 in florida. but as you know leland, every single vote p counts so the candidates are out on the stump, canvassing, hitting up to that half a does b a day. and also seeing thinker surrogates campaigning all across the country. so it is really a sprint to the finish up until tuesday. >> well a sprint in so many ways not only in terms of surrogates and coverage but also in terms of get out the vote effort and for as much as we talk about polls and the horse race and have been for a couple of years now, truly on tuesday when the votes are counted that is what it comes down to. votes win elections and we're seeing now the massive turn out the vote, get out the vote
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effort by both campaigns. and both of these organizations. there are people i've talked to in florida who say they are so sick and tired of getting people calling saying have you turned in their ballot. they might just finally turn in their ballot. from here in florida and in ohio, thanks so much for joining us. 36
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