official national christmas tree lighting this evening ceremony is an american tradition for nearly 100 years. >> merry christmas, everybody. ♪ ♪ >> this is fox news alert. it is donald trump's first stop on a u.s.a. thank you tour. we will bring it to you live here on "tucker carlson tonight." president-elect is doing some unprecedented. stopping for a huge rally in cincinnati, ohio. we will take you there live as soon as trump takes the stage. joining me now though is former speaker of the house newt gingrich. mr. speaker, thanks for coming on tonight. >> good to be with you, tucker. >> what's the purpose of this event tonight? >> it's partly to say thank you. partly to get out of the transition stuff and get back to the people who made him president. trump gains enormous strength from the american people, from being with them. from feeling their support, their strength, they're enthusiasm. i think that this is an

integral part of why trump is so unique. of course, here today here you have a guy who hasn't even been sworn in and he has already saved 1,000 jobs and sent america a signal of what kind of an activist job creating, job preserving president he is going to be. i think he is having a pretty good day. >> the purpose of it is to reassure people that is he going to do what he said is he going to done 00 campaign trail? >> and assure himself. don't estimate how important it is for somebody as tie am in mick and risk-taking as trump to remind himself, to feel inside himself that he is the leader of the american people and that he carries their hopes and their dreams and their wishes. very important part of who he is. it's part of what gives him this extraordinary level of energy that we have not seen, i think, since theodore roosevelt in a president. he is amazingly energetic purpose. >> he certainly is. who is the audience for this

other than himself as you said? >> well, i think all the american people. it's a pretty good remainder to the washington establishment that they're not just going to have the new president but a in the president leading the army of americans who really want change and who are really going to demand change. and he is setting the stage for that he is remind the congressman and the senators from ohio and, remember, the cincinnati also southern indiana also large part of kentucky. so that media market is being saturated with a reminder that change is coming to washington. and that the american people want that change and that they are for that change. >> you wrote, i thought, a really interesting piece about change and the challenges new president have enacting change based on your experience coming in during the reagan administration. you said. this solving problems feels satisfying, easy substitute for solving the real underlying problems. what do you mean by that? >> well, i will give you an example.

we just had a horrifying story out of wisconsin of a dentist who didn't take care of his tools properly who may well have infected veterans with h.i.v. with hepatitis. that dentist wasn't fired. that dentist is, in fact, still working at a nice job at the v.a. despite what he did now, you could reach in and go after that one dentist and say, you know, this represents a class of problems that require us to reform the civil service so we can get rid of people who do things that are this destructive and this incompetent and actually harm our veterans. that's getting down a layer into a much deeper issue. and i think this is pure peter good lucker. he said years ago all great leaders see problems of symptoms of a much deeper problem. if you solve that class of problem. and this is where trump, i think, will be remarkable because he has a contract with the american voter. he has a new deal for african-americans. he has really committed himself to dramatic change. and i think that that

dramatic change comes at that level. >> politicians do have a weakness for symbolic gestures. the "wall street journal" had an editorial about you this morning and in effect recommended a gingrich commission. they said the role you would play best in the trump administration would to be think big about how to reduce the size of government and update it, make it more efficient and make it more suited to the moment we are living. in are you open to something like that? >> i think if the president, if president-elect trump ask me to do something like that, i would head up such a commission. i would only do it, of course, with his support and his enthusiasm. i think it could be useful. it is certainly an example of the kind of thing i have talked about. i want to look across the whole system. give you an example. we probably have a million of $110 billion a year stolen from medicare and medicaid. literally stolen. implementing a system that would save you a trillion dollars over a decade by not paying the crooks, that would be an example of a large enough change that's

worth focusing on. i want to go through the system and find those kind of leverage points that really give us the opportunity to dramatically improve the country. >> who is this stolen bye bye crooked doctors, mostly? >> largely by doctors. and the "new york times," for example, found a dentist doing 993 procedures a day. >> that's a lot. all of them. that's a lot. it's amazing. but they also have guys who run crooked operations. one guy in jail for cocaine-selling who came out of jail in south florida. promptly went in from stealing from medicaid on the grounds it was safer and easier and nobody shot you. safer than dealing in drugs. >> indoor job which is good. before you go i want to ask you, the carrier story, a thousand jobs saved, not going to mexico, staying in indiana. being criticized by many on the left as symbolic gesture, in effect, not really meaningful can that

being ry repeated on a larger scale next four years. >> yes and will be. >> how. >> they need regulatory help and tax help. do you those things for every business in america, all of them are better off. more of them are more likely to stay. notice how totally whacked out the democrats are they used to be the party of working americans. now they are so elitist. they are made up of people so wealthy. they have con timothy for 1,000 jobs. let me tell you there are a thousand families in indiana who are happier tonight, who have a better christmas because of donald j. trump. that is not a small thing. i think has sent a signal of hope to all of america. >> right. >> but what does it have to do with global warming? i think that's the key question. [ laughter ] >> and there you have it everybody who thinks it's better to kill the jobs on behalf of the paris accord you should be a liberal democrat. everybody who thinks working americans and working families and a better christmas you should be for donald j. trump.

how is that? >> i think you summed it up. great to see you tonight. thank you very much for doing this. >> thanks, tucker. >> i want to go down to our senior national correspondent john roberts who is live inside the scene of the trump rally coming up. john? >> and talking about a better christmas, tucker. there are a number of people in the crowd tonight who are either dressed as santa claus or wearing santa hats. i should tell you here that the u.s. bank arena has been a little slow to fill up. the reason why, the police had the area cordoned off for the arrival of donald trump's motorcade. now that the barricades have been lifted. people are starting to stream in the doors. the last time donald trump was here and forgive my memory for not remembering the exact date but it was five weeks ago there were 16,000 people in this arena that holds 18,000. we are expecting if they can get them in and trump has delayed his appearance now by 40 minutes to allow more people to get in. they could easily top that the speech tonight will be a big thank you to the state of ohio, which helped push trump over the top. he won it 52 to 43 over

hillary clinton. won a lot of different demographics. did not win for instance. lost women by 3 points but won some other different demographics including both college and noncollege educated people. he will be introduced by his running mate mike pence. the two of them were together today in indianapolis where they were at that carrier furnace plant where they said they cut a deal to save 1100 jobs that otherwise would have moved to mexico. tucker, we are learning more about remainder of the jobs that donald trump has got to fill out in his cabinet. there is some news organizations that are saying that general matis is a done deal. as secretary of defense. i was told early this morning that it's pretty close to a done deal. it is maybe as close as you can get that donald trump really wants matis to be his secretary of defense. he is the guy that he is all but settled on. it's not 100 percent because of a couple of issues. first of all trump wants to think about that and secretary of state. those are the two biggest

appointments he has to make. matis would either waiver secretary of defense. you have got to be retired for seven years before you can take on a civilian position at the dod. the last time this happened was back in 1950 when george marshall was appointed to head the pentagon. that required a congressional law to be enacted to allow him to do it. different time back then. just after world war ii. marshall had already spent four years as secretary of state. they just want to make sure that everybody is on board with the idea of matis. and it does seem like it's heading that way before they announce him. it's as close to a sure thing as you can get, i think, at this point, tucker. we will learn about it probably neck week. >> whatever happened to dr. ben carson. i think it was a week agonyway that he was offered the hud job. have we heard back from that? is there any update? >> that's another one that they're not in any kind of a rush to get out there. is a number of things. secretary of state, also department of homeland security that they have yet to talk about yet. so i think what they are

doing is rolling these things out slowly. today they didn't want to step on the carrier message. they didn't want to step on the beginning of this thank you tour. the thank you tour is going to continue into next week as well. i would imagine that the remainder of the cabinet announcements will come out in dribs and drabs over the next couple of weeks. john, thanks a lot for that thanks for the update. >> thanks, tucker. >> well, earlier today the president-elect visited a carrier airconditioning plant in indianapolis where he claimed victory for saving about 1,000 manufacturing jobs. here is part of what he said after touring that plant. watch. >> about a week ago i was watching the nightly news. i won't say which one. i don't want to give them credit because i don't like them much. i'll be honest. [ laughter ] i don't like them. not even a little bit. but they were doing a story on carrier. and i said wow, that's something. i want to see that. and they had a gentleman, worker, great guy, handsome guy. he was on.

and it was like he didn't even know they were leaving. he said something to the evening no, we're not leaving. because donald trump promised us that we're not leaving. at first i said i wonder if he is being sarcastic because this ship has sailed. and then i said it was 6:30 in the evening. and i said boy, the first thing i'm going to do is go there and i say i do call the head of carrier, who is a great guy? but i have always learned i have got to call the top. and i heard about greg case. is he a great executive. you know i don't know if you know united technologies is one of the top 50 companies in the united states. and one the top companies anywhere in the world. they make many other things other than air conditioners. believe me. the list of companies is incredible. so i called greg hayes. i heard of him but i never met him. and he picked up the phone, mr. president elect, sir. how are you?

it's wonderful to win, you know. think if i had lost he wouldn't have returned my call. i don't know where is greg? if i lost, i don't think you would have called. i would have tried but i think it would have been tougher, right? what do you think? he is sort of nodding yes, you're right. [ laughter ] but i called greg and i said it's really important, we have to do something. because you have a lot of people leaving. and you have to understand we can't allow this to happen anymore with our country. so many jobs are leaving and going to other countries. not just mexico. many, many countries, and china is making so much of our product that we are closing up a lot of plants. and i mean i wrote down some numbers that are incredible. but the numbers of manufacturing jobs that are lost, especially in the rust belt, and the rust belt is so incredible. but we're losing companies. it's unbelievable. one after another. just one after another.

so i said, greg, have you got to help us out here. we have got to sit down. we have got to do something. i said because we just can't let it happen. anyway. he was incredible. and he said i understand. and i said i wish i made this call a year and a half ago. it would have been an allot easier call. i will tell you that united technologies and carrier stepped it up and now they are keeping, actually the number is over 1100 people, which is so great. which is so great. [ applause ] and i see the people. i shook hands with a lot of the people. they are right behind us working. i guess what is it, you are so -- you are making so many air conditioners you didn't want to have them come off for a half hour. is he a ruthless boss. is he ruthless. that's okay. did i say one thing to the carrier folks and to the united technologies folks. i said the goodwill that you have engendered by doing this all over the world,

frankly, but within our country, you watch how fast you are going to make it up because some people are going to be buying carrier air conditioners. united technologies has stepped up and i have to say this. they did it in such a nice and such a professional way. and they are going to spend so much money on renovating this plant. and i said greg, say that number. he said 16 million. well, the minimum number is 16. it's going to be, in my opinion, a lot more than that. he said well, i would rather say the lower number. see, i would rather have them say the higher number so i won't say it it's just a difference in philosophy. do you agree? both are okay. but difference in philosophy. they are going to spend more than 60. they are going to spend a lot of money on the plant. i said companies are not going to leave the united states anymore without consequences. not going to happen. it's not going to happen. [ applause ] i will tell you right now.

we are losing so much. so, one of the things we're doing to keep them is we're going to be lowering our business tax from 35%, hopefully down to 15%, which would take us from the highest taxed nation virtually in the world. this is terrible for business. to one of the lower taxed. not the lowest yet but one of the lower taxed. the other thing we're doing is regulations. the regulations are. in fact, if i asked greg and your folks, you would probably say regulations would be worse for you than even the high taxes, which is the biggest surprise of the whole political experience. i thought taxes would be number one, regulations would be up there some place. believe me, these great leaders of industry and even the small business people who are just being crushed, if they had their choice between lower taxes and a major massive cutting of regulations, they would take the regulations. six of eight of the airconditioning companies right now are located in mexico. six of eight. i mean, think of that.

and 80% of the supply chain for mexico. 80% is located in mexico. and we're not going to have it anymore. so we're not going to have it anymore. we like mexico. we think it's wonderful. i was there three months ago with the president of mexico. terrific guy. but we have to have a fair shake. we're not getting anything. we have nafta, which is a total and complete disaster. it's a total and complete disaster. [ applause ] it's a one lane highway into mexico. nothing coming our way. everything going their way. and i don't have to mention who signed it anymore. it's so nice. i don't have to mention who backed it anymore, right? we don't have to mention that anymore, fortunately. but it's a one-way street. we're going to be doing this. and if i have to tell you, doing speeches and say they say it's not presidential to call up these massive leaders of business.

i think it's very presidential. and if it's not presidential, that's okay. [ applause ] >> that's okay. because i actually like doing it. but we're going to have a lot of great people that can also do it and do it as well as i do it. but we're going to have a lot of phone calls made to companies when they say they're thinking about leaving this country because they're not leaving this country. they are not going to leave this country. and the workers are going to keep their jobs. they can leave from state to state and they can negotiate good deals with the different states and all of that, but leaving the country is going to be very, very difficult. >> well, joining us now is the co-host of the five, our old friend kimberly guilfoyle. kimberly, they're not leaving the country. >> no. and i love it is he like no, no. no you're not going anywhere. i like that though. you have got to like get out right in front of it. before is he even sworn in to office or before we have the inaugural ball, is he getting out there and saying this is an example of what can i do, like i promised you. and, in fact, we are going to save jobs. >> the wall is a dual

purpose. >> of course. the whole thing i love here is think about the holidays. can't you, tucker, for a moment snrch. >> of course, are you kidding? >> holidays coming up. now their families, 1100. be able to sit together at the christmas table and have jobs thanks to the carrier deal. this is really not only something that key with look at that's inspirational, something really symbolic about what his campaign was about. about the forgotten people. about the working men and women that felt that no one was listening to them. and he is saying, when he was campaigning, and is he reiterating it again today, i heard you. and i'm delivering. and i like that. is he not waiting until is he sworn. in is he doing it now. i'm looking forward to seeing what else is going to happen. i love to hear about jobs saved. and i love to hear about developing manufacturing and textiles and automotive like trickle it down to make sure. why do we have to export america? >> i think is he speaking instinct that people have that is rarely articulated that a financed paced economy is infiduciaryier to

manufacturing economy. you ought to make something. maybe it's hard to defend that as a matter of economics. it doesn't make it less real a feeling that people have. >> when you have seen the last eight years of the obama administration job killing in terms of these mythical green energy things like solyndra, spending billions of dollars things didn't work at the same time putting a chokehold on the coal industry, on those working families that have breathed coal their whole life. wanting to work it wanting to do dhavment they don't want a handout. they want to do the job that they were raised up. with multiple generations that they feel proud about when they go home at night. and they wake up in the morning to put food on the table for their families and be able to give their kids a good education. i totally relate to that and i think because president-elect trump worked so hard and went across this country and actually met people and looked them in the eye face to face to hear them, actually hear what they were saying, not political lip service, and then do something about it. good for him. >> white house spokesman

said today when asked about this carrier deal said yeah, it's fine. but it pails in comparison to the number of manufacturing jobs the president has created during his job. i think they cited 800,000. i thought we had a net loss of manufacturing jobs. >> they can do shape shifting with the numbers. by the way, how sort of small and petty was that? now how about saying we're really glad these families are going to have the jobs. do something that's not so politically narcissistic to say how great you were when, in fact, something good is happening for american people. this is why because they were tone deaf that think lost the election. the democrats did. and because they don't understand and they're not listening and they don't hear people, they weren't able to get the votes across this country. that the president-elect trump was able to get. they should learn from that instead, they're doing more of the same by keeping nancy pelosi in power. just because she is able to get the monopoly money and scared everyone else from coming in seriously against her. you know, if you like

losing. keep doing it. >> seems like one of the lessons in the last election is that money doesn't bring you victory, actually. maybe money is less important than we think it is. >> money can't buy you love. >> no it can't. >> kimberly guilfoyle, always ending on a deep note. we are here waiting for donald trump to take the stage in cincinnati to kick off thank you tour. big day saw him visit the carrier airconditioning plant as well. we have more on this. stay tuned ♪ ♪ tual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. liberty did what? yeah, with liberty mutual all i needed to do to get an estimate was snap a photo of the damage and voila! voila! (sigh) i wish my insurance company had that... wait! hold it... hold it boys... there's supposed to be three of you... where's your brother? where's your brother? hey, where's charlie? charlie?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you. liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance

>> so we're here waiting for president-elect donald trump. is he about to kick off his thank you tour at a very large venue in cincinnati. getting conflicting times as

to when that starts but soon. we will go to it live as soon as he takes the stage. trump throughout much of the campaign trump rallied against terrier's decision to move to mexico. back in june even president obama weighed in on this and mocked trump for saying he could get care yor stay. we have the tape. here it is. >> trump came to indiana and talked a lot about with what happened with the carrier and shipping their job out of state. here is someone who worked for carrier. >> good evening, mr. president. >> how are you. >> i'm representing the steel workers union local 1999 i'm trying to find out what too we have left as far as all of our jobs are leaving in indianapolis? and i see here you are doing a lot of things but in indianapolis, there is nothing there for us. i mean, what's next? what can we look forward to in the future as far as jobs and employment, whatever because all of our jobs have left or in the process of leaving, sir? >> when somebody says, like the person you just mentioned who i'm not going to advertise for, that he is

going to bring all these jobs back, well how exactly are you going to do that? what are you going to do? there is no answer to it. he just says i'm going to negotiate a better deal. well, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? what magic wand do you have and usually the answer is he doesn't have an answer. >> and yet, there was an answer today. 1,000 of those carrier jobs are apparently staying in indianapolis. joining us now to assess all of, this eric guster, trial attorney and political commentator. eric, g.p.s. at a time it's great to sigh. >> great to see. >> you there was a time liberals were skeptical of restrained capitalism. they embraced market fund fund monday mentalism. nothing you can do market forces beyond our control. we were industrial economy, now we are not. get used to it and yet trump is kind of proving it's not exactly right, is it? >> trump is not proving that's not exactly right because trump back pedaled on some things. first he said i'm going to

put the hammer down on these companies. they will be scared to leave. seeing giving them 7-million-dollar incentive. that's what he worked out with pence. now, i don't know a company around that won't take a 7-million-dollar incentive. where do you sign up for that? >> it's pretty common, actually that states and municipalities make deals to get companies to stay there. >> yes. but that's not what trump did. >> let me ask you a question, is it really the position of liberal democrats that it's wrong to use government policy to influence markets? is that what you're saying? isn't it the kind of thing i would think liberals would be in favor of this. >> government has always instituted policy to try to help markets as far as different incentives for companies to stay, different incentives for people to build just like federal tax credits rebuild old buildings. of course the federal government has always been there but the issue that we have with what trump has done is he has flipped the script. he said i'm going to put the hammer down. they are going to be overly taxed because if they go to mexico, i'm the big bad wolf and then he gives them incentives. that's the total opposite

thing. >> he used a lighter touch than he said he would. >> lighter touch i'm going to tax you versus give you 7 million bucks? $7 million? >> i don't know for 1,000 jobs. what's the cost? >> they lost, what, 600 jobs? >> they did. he didn't stop the whole thing like he was touting. >> truth is in mostly cloudy skies co-carrier workers making 11 bucks a day and in indianapolis they make 30 bucks an hour. it's a hard sell to get them to stay here. i'm interested to hear liberals like president obama talk like teenage tech billionaires when they say things like there is nothing we can do. you know, the wheels of capitalism roll on and if you are crushed beneath them too bad for you. when did that change happen. >> we don't talk like that. >> he does. there is nothing you can do. >> teenager trump on twitter feed that's teenager equation. >> obama's position is the same as hillary clinton's and nancy pelosi is which is you are seeing good paying jobs salary but dignity

disappear to third world countries because we have cheaper lehner there and we can't stop it nothing we can do at all. when did that become liberal orthodoxy. >> the government has to do a better job to keep companies here. i agree with that. >> oh, okay. >> i agree with that we have to do a better job keeping companies here. i don't have a problem with incentives. i have problem with trump claiming that he is going to punish people and then giving incentives which is the total opposite of what he said. he put himself out big bad wolf i'm going to stop them they are go going to be afraid to leave. >> some companies threaten and leave and get incentive package. >> it makes me incomfortable when governments favor one company over another we saw it a lot with the obama administration with solyndra, et cetera. as an economic matter you could make cost benefit. unemployment benefits high cost for taxpayers. welfare programs. addiction treatment. i mean it cascades down.

so is it really a bad deal to spend 7 million bucks to save 1,000 jobs? maybe it's a net plus. >> it's not a bad deal. i'm not saying it's a bad deal. why not just say you know what i don't like trump but did he do a good thing. >> that is not what trump sold people. he told people i'm going to tax them and that is what is going to keep them here not give them incentives. >> i'm a business owner, i'm a real estate developer. since his drive to market if you have three buildings you can choose from one has incentives and two don't. you will pick the one with incentives. that's the way it is. that's the way companies are driven as well. if you get tax break bias hiring veterans and tax break bias hiring teenagers who may have been in trouble you will take them,. >> of course for whatever it is worth i don't think as president-elect is he change our tax code so that may have had something to do with the way he approached. this i don't know. eric guster, great to see you. >> good to see you. congrats on your show show. >> thanks. i appreciate it? >> president-elect trump is about to speak as he kicks

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>> that's matt bevin the governor of kentucky, the republican governor of kentucky in the background speaking at the rally. we're told that any minute now president-elect trump will step to the microphone. he is in cincinnati, of course you will see it right here. as the president-elect kicks off thank you tour, the midwest recount in wisconsin is underway. nearly 3 million votes will be audited. this comes after challenges

by green party candidate jill stein and support from the hillary clinton campaign. donald trump won that state by about 22,000 votes. here now with wisconsin congressman duffy. thanks for coming on tonight. the obvious question that no one appears to be asking, could this effect the outcome? do you think -- i'm not really certain as to the purpose of this recount, but you have got to think on some level the people behind it suspect they could overconcern the election results. is that possible? >> well, they have to draw an inside straight. they can actually thwart the will of the wisconsin voter and prohibit our electors to go to cast their votes on december 19th. that is possible. if you take out wisconsin's 10 electoral votes. you actually need to get to michigan and pennsylvania as well and get them to disallow their votes as well to get donald trump below 270 votes. >> right. >> but with the trouble, tucker is that we only have one county that is hand counting the votes. that's dain county home in madison.

progressive liberal communist county of madison. they are taking as long as they can the stein and hillary folks are on the ground are taking as much time contesting ballots, slow walking as much as they can so we can't get these votes certified. if that doesn't happen, to think the state of wisconsin who voted for trump the first time for republican since 1984, that 10 electors disenfranchised for states sad state of affair informs are democrats who don't believe in free elections they want to use politics to undermine the will of the voter. >> communist communities are like that. >> they are. >> underlying rationale for this whole process is that there was fraud, potentially in this election. in your state, in michigan and pennsylvania. and the suggestion is that somehow a foreign power, most likely russia did that somehow tampered with these machines. were there any citings of russian agents slipping disks into the back of voting machines in rural wisconsin that you're aware of this your?

>> can i attest to you and your viewers we haven't had any sightings of those russian agents. and by the way our counting machines for our ballots, they're just plugged into the wall for electricity. they are not hooked up to the internet. >> right. >> so, yeah. i think our vote is clear. and clean. but i think what they're trying to do if they wanted a recount, they thought they could make up 22,000 votes in wisconsin. what they would do is say hey, let's quickly recount these votes. if we are successful, we could turn wisconsin to hillary clinton. they know that's not true. they don't want to quickly count the votes. they want to slow walk the vote counting so they can somehow get a stain on the election of donald trump and start his presidency off with mud-throwing, dirt-throwing and with a tarnished start. >> i know. >> it's too bad. >> you are interested party in. this you have a position and you stated it honestly are there any indication that there was tampering with the vote at any level in any place in wisconsin? that there was fraud. >> not at all. >> not at all? no reports in wisconsin.

and actually jill stein and hillary clinton haven't made that allegation as well. the white house has come clean and said there has been no allegations of tampering. so, again, this just wreaks of politics. and political play. and i have got to tell you if you recall, tucker, we had a recall election for scott walker. the democrats thought through that recall process they could bring more people to their side to kick out scott walker. what they found out was it made the wisconsin electorate angry and scott walker got more votes than did he in the first election. i'm talking to democrats right now in wisconsin who voted for hillary clinton. these aren't the burk and stock wearing with the dread locks. these are union working democrats who voted for hillary. they are so mad with what's happening. it's a waste of time and money. you are taking clerks that have a job to do in these counties away from their duties and the people and making them engage in a frivolous recount. we don't like that in wisconsin. it makes people wildly angry. >> i think everybody is in favor of recounts if there is a suggestion that the

election was fraud. of course. you should be. if there is no evidence or even suggestion of evidence that there was anything wrong with the election at all in the state of wisconsin, how can there be a recount? on what basis and who made that decision? >> well, our law allows that even though jill stein got, you know, 1% of the vote in wisconsin, if she raises the money and pays for the recount, she is obliged to get a recount from the state. now, the counties have the option do they actually use their voting -- vote count machines or do they do a hand count? >> right. >> while virtually everyone said we are going to use the voting machines, deign county the progressives jill stein and the communist party said no we are going to slow walk. this and we are going to count by hand. the projections that we have on the ground right now is that it will take more than 20 days, tucker. it will put us past december 20th. the date these votes have to come in more the electorates which is the 19th. we won't have a certification in wisconsin which is their intent. we might have to use the courts. >> interesting. very quickly, mike pence is

about to take the stage, the vice president elect. what do you make of this thank you tour. >> i have got to tell you, i love it and america, when people do good things for you, you come back and say thank you. to indiana, ohio, wisconsin, pennsylvania, we want to say thanks, you're not forgotten and we're going to fight for you not just at carrier but in policies that are going to grow your jobs, your opportunity, and your economy. >> interesting. thanks loot, congressman, nice to see you. >> thank you, tucker. >> good luck visiting dain county. >> i'm sure i'm welcome. >> we're going to go now to the vice president elect of the united states. is he in cincinnati, ohio. he is speaking before his running mate donald trump. here is he. governor mike pence ♪ all right now. >> hello, ohio! [cheers] i'm mike pence. [cheers] because of your hard work, your support, and your

prayers i am deeply humbled to stay that 50 days from today with my family by my side i will take the oath of office to serve as vice president of the united states of america. [cheers and applause] and i'm here tonight to say thank you. i'm here tonight to say thank you for electing a president who will make america great again. [cheers and applause] so thank you to the people of ohio to the people of kentucky. [cheers] and i will bet there is a few hoosiers in the room. [cheers]

thank you for doing your part to make donald trump the next president of the united states of america. [cheers and applause] he did it. and we have you to thank. before i go on, let me just say from our families to yours, our hearts go out to the victims and families of those who were injured in the horrific attacks that took place earlier this week in columbus, ohio. the victims are in our prayers and we commend the swift and courageous of law enforcement in that perilous moment. [cheers and applause] but let's be clear, thanks

to all of you in just 50 days we have a president who supports the men and women in law enforcement at every level. [cheers and applause] we will have a president who will suspend immigration from all countries and territories compromised by terror. [cheers and applause] and we have a commander-in-chief who will hunt down and destroy isis at its source. [cheers and applause] [chanting u.s.a.] and thanks to you we have a president who will make the

american economy great again. [cheers and applause] we'll repeal obamacare and replace it with american solutions. [cheers and applause] we're going to cut taxes, roll back regulation, have trade deals that put american workers first and we're going to get this economy moving for every american. and thanks to you right next door in my home state of indiana today in indianapolis, because of the bold leadership and vision of president-elect donald trump, a company that announced back in february that they were closing their doors and moving to mexico, announced that more than 1,001 good paying jobs will stay right here in america.

[cheers and applause] and the president-elect made it happen. make no mistake did b. it carrier chose to stay in indiana because america chose to make donald trump the next president of the united states. [cheers and applause] and thanks to you, thanks to you, we are going to enforce the laws of this country for the citizens of this country. we're going to build a wall and we're going to end illegal immigration once and for all. [cheers] [build that wall] >> oh, we will. and thanks to you and thanks to you we're going to have a president who will appoint justices to the supreme

court of the united states who will uphold our second amendment and all the god given liberties enshrined in our constitution. so we're here to say thanks. but mostly i just want to say to you from my heart as a fellow american thank you for giving america a new president. thank you for giving america a new president whose strength, whose vision, whose leadership will make america great again faster than you could possibly imagine. [cheers and applause] so let me say to my friends from here in ohio and kentucky, from indiana, and all those looking on. it is my high honor and

distinct privilege to introduce to you the president-elect of the united states of america donald trump. [cheers and applause] ♪ proud to be an american ♪ where at least i know i'm free ♪ and i won't forget the men who died ♪ who gave that right to me ♪ and i gladly stand up ♪ next to you ♪ and defend her still today ♪ but there ain't no doubt i love this land ♪ god bless the u.s.a. ♪ that i'm proud to be an american ♪ where at least i know i'm free ♪ and i won't forget the men who died ♪ who gave that right to me ♪ and i gladly stand up

♪ next to you ♪ and defend her still today ♪ than thank you, thank you. [cheers and applause] thank you, everybody. wow. thank you. so i didn't know this -- i love you too. look at this place. [cheers and applause] so i didn't know what came with this position and i didn't know that they closed down the roads around the stadium for an hour and a half. we got to work out a new deal with our secret service, but we love them, right? thank you. thank you, everybody for being so patient. [cheers and applause] thank you you're going to be

happy. we're all going to be happy. i'm here today for one main reason, to say thank you to ohio. [cheers and applause] thank you. we won the state by almost 10 points, which they say is totally unheard of. in fact, i don't know if you know, but at the beginning they said you have to win ohio. you must win ohio. right, you heard it over and over and over. and we started off sort of even and then we were one up and two up. we didn't have much help at the top levels. you know that, right? and that turned out it didn't matter. but we had help with the people and that's what really did matter. [cheers and applause] so i kept hearing you must

win ohio. you cannot win the presidency without ohio. so we started really we were about even, right, at the beginning. and then point by point by point and then we had a couple of little troughs, but with ohio there was no trough. it just kept getting better and better. just better and better. and the end result is incredible. i love you, ohio. this is a great place. great people. have so many friends. thank you. thank you. [cheers and applause] in the true sense, history called and the people of this great state answered and you're going to be very happy. we're going to say right now what are we going to do? we're going to make america great again. you watch. [cheers and applause] you went out and you pounded the pavement. organized your fellow citizens. and propelled to victory a

grass roots movement, the likes of which the world has never seen before. this is what they say. today on one of the networks they said maybe andrew jackson. i said when was that? that was like 1838. and then somebody else said well, that was great but nothing like what happened here. okay? so it really has been fun and more importantly i heard mike saying about what happened today in indiana we're going to do that all over the country. we're going to do it all over the country. carrier, thank you, carrier. today we made history and now the real work begins. that is the second reason that i'm here today i'm going to discuss our action plan to make america great again. we're going to discuss

although we did have a lot of fun fighting hillary, didn't we? [cheers and applause] right? [chanting lock her up] and by the way, the people are continuing to pour in. so, let me come in. we could wait an half hour or an hour. i don't think we are going to do that. let them pour in. let's blame them for being late, right? but as i said just i was in indianapolis to announce that we're saving the jobs at the carrier plant from going to mexico. 1100 jobs.

[cheers and applause] and i'm asking all companies to keep their jobs in america and we will work to make america a better environment for workers and businesses and we will crack down on all foreign trade abuses that undermine your ability and your company's ability to compete. those days are over where those companies are going to leave. we have so many problems to fix in our country. but i know that if we set aside our differences, and we do have differences. we're have a very divided nation. but we're not going to be divided for long. i have always brought people together. i know you find that hard to believe. [ laughter ] although this group probably doesn't find it hard to believe. but we are going to bring our country together all of our country. we're going to find common

ground and we will get the job done properly. we will get it done properly. and so importantly, america will start winning again big league. we're going to win again. but we must enlist the effort of all americans. for too long washington has tried to put us in boxes. they separate us by race, by age, by income, by geography, by place of birth. we spend too much time focusing on on what divides us. now is the time to embrace the one thing that truly unites us. do you know what that is? america, america. it's america. [cheers and applause] because when america is unified, nothing is beyond our reach. i mean that you're going to see.

you're going to see. we're going to have a country that was never so great. you watch. in so many different ways. you hear a lot of talk about how we're becoming a global blizzed world. but the relationships people value in this country are local, family, city, state, country. they're local. we'll compete in the world. we want to compete in the world. but we're going to compete in the world where it is a two-way road, not a one-way road. the advantages are going to come back to our country and they haven't for many, many years. there is no global anthem, no global currency, no certificate of global citizenship. we pledge allegiance to one flag and that flag is the american flag.

[cheers and applause] [chanting u.s.a.] from now on, it's going to be america first. okay? america first. we're going to put ourselves first. we seek peace and harmony with the nations of the world, but that means recognizing the right of every country, including our own to look after its citizens. we would put other countries first. we had people running our country that truly didn't know what the hell they were doing. okay? didn't know they were doing.

[cheers and applause] we're going to defend the american worker. look what's happened right here. they forgot about the american worker. they forgot that it was the american worker who truly built our country. we are not going to forget. believe me. one of the reasons we sore divided today is because our government has failed to protect the interests of the american workers and their families, making it too easy for us to see ourselves as succinct groups and not unified as a whole. we're not unified. we're going to be. washington's politicians have spent so long appealing to competing interests they forgotten how to appeal to the national interests combining the skills and talents of our people in a common cause. and we have unbelievable

talent. but that is all about to change. our goal is to strengthen the bonds of trust between citizens to restore our sense of membership in a shared national community. global is wonderful but right now we want to focus on our national community. never again will anyone's interest come before the interests of the american people. it's not going to happen again. [cheers and applause] and over the last two weeks, since our victory, i've spoken to many foreign leaders. and i will tell you they have such respect for us. they all tell me how this was amazing. they all tell me how they said in their magnificent rooms in different countries throughout the world. these are the leaders, the prime ministers, the

presidents, all of them. how they sat in their magnificent rooms watching in wonderment and hearing how people came to vote that didn't vote in 20 years. people came to vote that haven't voted before. and they had trump shirts on and they had make america great hats on. and they had buttons pouring off and they thought it was amazing. and honestly, one of them told me i truly respect the united states again because of what happened. [ applause ] we're going to seek a truly inclusive society where we support each other, love each other, and look out for each other and that means that people coming in to our country have to be people that have the potential to love us, not to hate us. [cheers and applause]

we condemn bigotry and prejudice in all of its forms. we denounce all of the hatred and we forcefully reject the language of exclusion and separation. we're going to come together. we have no choice. we have to. and it's better. it's better. we seek a future where every american child is fully included in the american dream. we're going to have our own american dream. and we're going to bring back the american dream. the problems that plague our i objector cities or that afflict pour rural communities and we do have those rural communities, some of them are poor. we're going to help those people. we're going to rebuild those communities. they're not permanent features of american life. they can be fixed and together we're going to fix them. we are going to fix them. we have spent as of this week, according to the latest count, we have spent

$6 trillion in the middle east. and the middle east today is far worse than it's ever been. [crowd booing] >> you will see changes very quickly. a shrinking -- you will see it. a shrinking workforce and flat wages are not the new normal. and we're not even talking about flat. we're talking about wages where some of you in this audience, hard working incredible americans were making more money 20 years ago than you are making today and today you're older and you are working harder. and in many cases you have two jobs. some of that is because of obamacare. and by the way we are repealing and replacing obamacare. [cheers and applause] we can reverse the stagnation and ushern