latest count, we have spent $6 trillion in the middle east. and the middle east today is far worse than it's ever been. [crowd booing] >> you will see changes very quickly. a shrinking -- you will see it. a shrinking workforce and flat wages are not the new normal. and we're not even talking about flat. we're talking about wages where some of you in this audience, hard working incredible americans were making more money 20 years ago than you are making today and today you're older and you are working harder. and in many cases you have two jobs. some of that is because of obamacare. and by the way we are repealing and replacing obamacare. [cheers and applause] we can reverse the stagnation and usher in a

period of true opportunity and growth. endless gridlock is not a way of life any longer. we don't have to accept that. government can be responsive and we can become proud again of how washington works. and i have spoken to democrats and i said to them look, we can't go on with this gridlock. it's gone on for so many years. it's gone on for so many years. they can't get together. we're going to get together. and i believe they want to get together. you know why? because it's time. and the people are angry. they're angry. and they're going to get together. we're going to make joint decisions. we are. and the nice part? our victory was so great, we have the house, and we have the senate. and we have the presidency. [cheers and applause] but we want to get them on board also.

people are constantly telling me and telling you to reduce our expectations. those people are fools. they're fools. but this campaign proved that the old rules no longer apply, that anything we want for our country is now possible. anything. right? now is not the time to down size our dreams but to set our sights higher than ever before for our country. [cheers and applause] now is the time to push for real profound change that restores the full promise of america for all of its people and those people are great people. i got to know them. believe me, over the last 18

months. and what we have createside a movement and it's a beautiful thing. you take a look here. the roads are all gridlocked. all gridlocked. all locked down, all secured up. and people pour in. it's an amazing thing. now is the time to unlock the potential of millions of americans left opt sideline. their talents unused. their dreams unrealized. and their aspirations totally forgotten. and these are people of great talent. this is the moment. this is our chance. this is our window for action. this is the hour when the great deeds can be done and our highest hopes can come true. we're going to do it, folks. we're going to do it. [cheers and applause] we're going to do it. [chanting u.s.a.]

thank you, i love you, too. some guy, look at this guy. and i do love him. is he a rough looking cookie i will tell you. we have a lot of love. believe me. going to be a lot of love in our country. driven by these goals, i'm working to assemble a detailed action plan for america. my plan begins with the bold structural reform to create millions of new jobs and rapidly expand our economic growth. and you see what's happening with taxes. you see what's happening with regulations, which are totally out of control. right now we punish companies for doing business in america. they're actually punished. that's why they're leaving. and by the way, i have to say this. we are going to reduce taxes to a point that our -- for

the middle class in particular, but for our companies. and we're going to reduce the regulations. but if a company wants to still leave the state of ohio or pennsylvania or how about north carolina? how well did we do in north carolina? [cheers and applause] right? remember when they said he cannot win north carolina? so we had just won ohio, and we just won florida. breaking news donald trump has won florida. they say, whoa. and we won it big. but then the people back there, the extremely dishonest press. [crowd booing]

very dishonest people. how about -- i mean how dishonest. how about when a major anchor, who hosted a debate started crying when she realized that we won? [cheers and applause] tears. no, tell me this isn't true. and you know what she doesn't understand? things are going to be much better now. [cheers and applause] >> she doesn't understand. i mean, think of it. we won in a landslide. that was a landslide. and we didn't have the press. the press was brutal.

you know what? [crowd booing] hey, in the great state of ohio, we didn't have the you were echelon of politician either, did we? [crowd booing] but i will say this, i will say this, and it was very nice your governor, john kasich called me after the election. [crowd booing] >> and was very nice. he said congratulations. that was amazing. he couldn't believe how much we won ohio by or the election by. remember you cannot get to 270. the dishonest press. there is no road. folks, how many times did we hear this? there is no path to 270.

there is no path. [ laughter ] [cheers and applause] there is no path. [cheers and applause] there is no path for donald trump. texas is in play. remember that one? [ laughter ] now, as a republican, i'm supposed to win texas. as a republican, i'm supposed to win georgia. as a republican, i'm supposed to win the great state of utah. i love utah. i love those states. remember when they said donald trump is going to lose to some guy i never even heard of. who was that guy? he is going to lose to this guy. but the people of utah were amazing. and we trounced them.

we trounced them. and by the way, hillary came in second and that guy came in third. i was still trying to figure out -- i'm still trying to figure out what he was going to prove. i wanted to find what the hell was he trying to prove? i guess he wanted us to lose the supreme court. that's about the only thing he was going to get. but think of it. they said i will tell you what, just two or three weeks before the election and my friends were tell me just the opposite they live in texas and georgia. they said georgia is in play. texas is in play. that means like we're even. and then we won in a landslide. i said what happened? for weeks texas is in play. then you turn on the television like two minutes later, donald trump has won texas.

[cheers and applause] these are very, very dishonest people. [crowd booing] i love this stuff. should i go on with this just a little bit longer? [cheers] i love it. how about it's like 12:00 in the evening and pennsylvania -- i'm leading by a lot. and we couldn't get off 98%. they didn't want to call it. we're leading by so much that it's impossible if i lost every every other vote and they refused to call. and then at 3:00. i will never forget. i watched a particular person. and we won wisconsin and we won michigan. and we won pennsylvania.

right? and that person is doing the map and that person was saying for months that there is no way that donald trump can break the blue wall, right? we didn't break it, we shattered that sucker. we shattered it. [cheers and applause] man. that poor wall is busted up. so, i will never forget it though because it felt so good. more so because they kept saying there's no path and all this nonsense. so, and i go out and see the people like this. and i say how are we going to lose? how are we going to lose? what happened? so they would say we win wisconsin. donald trump, 38 years or so, donald trump has won michigan. and then they are looking at the map and they are saying

oh, wow. there is no way for hillary clinton to become president o.donald trump is president of the united states. [cheers and applause] it's amazing. it's amazing. really amazing. and one of the announcers, one of the announcers, i have to tell you, from espn, now they cover football and boxing and everything, right? and he went out and he said i have got to tell you. that event last night, meaning the election results, was better than any fight, any baseball game, any football game. [cheers and applause] he said that was the most exciting event i have ever seen and it was politics. and then you look at the nfl, well now they should

start recovering. but their ratings were so far down. and do you know what the reason was? this. because this business is tougher than the nfl. it's crazy. the people liked it. their ratings were down 20% or 21%. it was because of us. so we had a lot of fun. the bottom line is we won. we won. [cheers and applause] we won big. whether it's producing steel, building cars or curing disease, we want the next generation of innovation and production to happen right here in america and right here in ohio, right? [cheers and applause] first on taxes. we're going to massively lower taxes and make america the best place in the world to hire, to invest, to

create, and to expand. on regulation, we're going to eliminate every single wasteful regulation that undermines the ability of our workers and our companies to compete with companies from foreign lands. we're going to do this. we have the greatest competitors on earth. and by the way, i put on some of the greatest business people in the world. one of the networks said why he put on a billionaire at commerce. well, that's because this guy knows how to make money, folks. [ laughter ] [cheers and applause] knows how to make money. i would like to put on a guy that failed all his life but we don't want that, do we? no. i mean, i put on a killer.

i have been honest. i said i am going to be putting on the greatest killers you have ever seen. we need that it's time. it's time. it's time. we have a great, great cabinet, i will tell you. it's coming and wait until you see what we have next week. are we doing a good job with our cabinet and our people? [cheers and applause] and i don't want to tell you -- i don't want to tell you this because i want to save the suspense for next week. so i will not tell you -- i refuse to -- and don't let it outside of this room. do you promise? raise your hand. promise. so i will not tell you that one of our great, great

generals -- don't let it outside, right? and, of course, the press is very honest, they will never let this go. even though it's al all live. they have about seven stations live. we are going to appoint mad dog mattis as our secretary of defense. [cheers and applause] but we're not announcing it until monday so don't tell anybody. mad dog. he's great. he is great. i asked one of the generals, i love the generals. and i won't use his name but he probably would come forward, but i said to him you're a good general, aren't you? yes, sir, i am. i said so how do you compare

to general mattis? how do you compare to mad dog? sir, he's better than i am. [ laughter ] i loved that. i said i love you to say that they love him. so we're going to be announcing him on monday of next week. keep it inside the room but that's what we have. and he is our best. they say he is the closest thing to general george patton that we have and it's about time. it's about time. [cheers and applause] okay. i gave up a little secret. [chanting u.s.a.] >> my people over there are probably saying you weren't supposed to do that, mr. trump. on energy, we will pursue energy independence and cancel the job on shell energy, oil, natural gas and

clean coal. and we're going to put the miners of ohio back to work. [cheers and applause] on infrastructure, we build new roads, tunnels, bridges, railways, airports, schools, and hospitals, including major projects in the inner cities. there is such potential in the inner cities. we are not using our potential. remember when i would make the speeches? i would say what the hell do you have to lose? the african-american community was so great to me in this election. they were so great to me. [cheers and applause] amazing. i couldn't believe it. i started off low number and every week boom, boom, boom.

i got it up to a number that's higher than all of the republican candidates for years and it was great. the hispanic community i did great with the hispanic community. great. higher than people that was supposed to have done well i felt it. and is this really a big surprise? we did great with women. can you believe it? [cheers and applause] great with women. a couple of polls came in in the early states and they said we don't believe it is he doing well with women. but every time i wept out, i saw those beautiful pink signs, right? women for trump. i knew we were going to do well. so we did great with women.

we did great with everybody. we will deepen our harbors. and new lanes of commerce across the nation. we have harbors that ships can't even go in to. we will have two simple rules when it comes. [crowd booing] they don't know that hillary lost a couple of weeks ago. they forgot. [cheers and applause] i don't know. where do these people come from? oh well. they're taking her back home to mom. [ laughter ] it's true. it's true. they don't realize. they don't know.

you know, a lot of the people that protested we said did you vote? no, i didn't vote. they don't vote. they never vote. and do you agree with my stance that if people burn the american flag they there should be consequence, right? [cheers and applause] [chanting u.s.a.] we will have two simple rules when it comes to this massive rebuilding effort. buy american and hire american. we're going to do it ourselves. we will do it ourselves. and that will be our new mantra. on trade, the history of

nations, teaches us that the strength of a country and its trade and manufacturing sector is vital to both its economic prosperity and national security. because we don't do that. our borders are weak. our trade is terrible. you're going to see a turn that is so big that it's going to happen so fast and we started today in indiana, believe me, that's just the beginning. that's just the beginning. our trade deficit now is northeasterly $800 billion a year. it's a chronic drag on growth. and a destroyer. it destroys the wealth of our country and jobs and jobs. ohio has lost 1/3 of its manufacturing jobs since nafta. and you know the nice part? now i don't have to say

signed by bill clinton and approved by hillary. who cares? all i can tell you is that nafta is a disaster. what difference does it make? we will fix nafta or we will terminate it and start all over again. [cheers and applause] america has lost 70,000 factories. hard to believe. i always say that's a typo. 70,000 factories since china joined the world trade organization. think of it. in the year 2000, america had northeasterly 20 million manufacturing jobs in the rust belt. okay? today we have only 12.3 million manufacturing jobs left in the rust belt. we're going to bring them back. we're going to bring them back. [cheers and applause]

we're going to bring them back. the rust belt has been hammered. and one of the reasons i won, it's one of the reasons i won. ohio, as an example, is down from 1.2 million manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 690,000 jobs today. not going to happen anymore, folks. or take michigan, they're down from 900,000 manufacturing jobs in the year 2000 to only 600,000 manufacturing jobs today. i see these numbers and it's sad. but what isn't sad because this is all about hope, but it's real hope because we're going to turn that around so fast. and we don't want ford leaving and going to mexico to build its small cars. >> right. >> we don't want it.

we're going to turn it all around. we're living through the greatest jobs theft in the history of the world. i have been saying it for months it used to be the cars were made in flint, right? and you couldn't drink the water in mexico. today the cars are made in mexico and you can't drink the water in flint, michigan. you know that right? what a difference. but we're turning that around. what a terrible thing that was, too. gross incompetence on so many levels. the era of economic surrender is over. we're going to fight for every last american job. it's time to remove the rust from the rust belt and usher in a new industrial revelation. industrial -- revolution. we're going to do it. on healthcare reform, we will repeal and replace

obamacare. we have no choice. we have no choice. and we will finally fix healthcare for america's incredible veterans, veterans, we love our veterans. where are the veterans? raise your hands? who is a veteran? we have got a lot of veterans. our veterans have not been treated properly. and i want to thank our veterans and i want to thank our military and i want to thank our police forces because the number of votes i got was staggering. staggering. [cheers and applause] for whatever reason, people in uniforms like trump. i don't know. we have to figure that out. these are great people. we're going to take care of our veterans. we're working right now on somebody to run the veterans administration who will be

terrific, believe me, terrific. and i'll be watching, too. i'll be watching. on child care, i'm asking congress to pass legislation to support the american family and make safe and affordable child care accessible to all. it's so important. [ applause ] our agenda will fight to increase pay and opportunities for women in the workforce. support women entrepreneurs, who is a woman entrepreneur here? [cheers and applause] here are the women? a lot of them. i hate to tell you, men, generally speaking, they're better than you are. [cheers and applause] now if i said it the other way around, i would be in big trouble. don't you agree? we're going to make sure that no one is penalized for the decision to have have a family. right now they are penalized. on crime, the murder rate

has experienced its largest increase in 45 years in our country. think of that. we're going to support the incredible men and women of law enforcement. they are incredible people. [cheers and applause] my administration will marshall federal resources to bring this crime wave to an end, most in 45 years. we believe all americans have the right to live in safety and peace. and we will never back down in fighting to deliver that security to every community in our land and to our inner cities that have been forsaken. [cheers and applause] take care of our inner cities and the people in our inner cities. on defense, we will begin a major national effort to rebuild our badly dee dee

meete --depleted military. we have no choice. we look at this world, it's a tinderbox, we have no choice. we want a strong military. and we don't want to have to use it. ideally we don't have to use it. although, we will destroy isis. [cheers and applause] at the same time, we will pursue a new foreign policy that finally learns from the mistakes of the past. we will stop looking to topple regimes and overthrow governments, folks. remember, $6 trillion, 6 trillion in the middle east. 6 trillion. our goal is stability, not chaos. because we want to rebuild our country. it's time. it's time.

would will partner with any nation that is willing it join us in the effort to defeat isis and radical islamic terrorism. okay? we have to say the term. have to say the term. in our dealings with other countries, we will seek shared interests wherever possible and pursue a new era of peace, understanding and goodwill. on immigration, we will restore the sovereignty of the united states. we will restore the sovereignty. [cheers and applause] we will finally end illegal immigration. have to. [cheers and applause] we will construct a great wall at the border. [cheers and applause]

dismantle the criminal cartel and liberate our communities from the epidemic of gang violence and drugs pouring in to our nation. we will ask congress to reform our visa and immigration program to protect jobs and wages for american workers. i love american workers. i love these people. you know what i call the american workers? the forgotten men and women of our nation and those men and women came out to vote. nobody ever thought that was going to happen. they came out by the millions. [cheers and applause] these are great, great people. keep our nation secure from terrorism and extremism. we will suspend immigration from regions where it cannot be safely processed. we have regions of the

world, people are pouring in. i don't have to say who is letting them in anymore? i just have to say they're pouring in to our country. we don't need san bernardino. we don't need another orlando. we don't need another world trade center. we don't need paris. you look at paris. you look at niche, you look all over the world. look at what is happening to germany. we don't need that, folks. we have enough problems. believe me. you'ryour state hasjust sufferet atrocity at the great ohio state university and that is a great place. that further demonstrates the security threats that created and these are just threats that are stupidly created by our very, very stupid politicians, refugee programs. we offer our thoughts, prayers, and deepest

sympathies to the victims and our hearts go out to the entire community of ohio state. what a great place. great plate. [ applause ] we're with you and we will stand with you every single step of the way. the job of the president is to keep america safe. and that will always be my highest priority. [cheers and applause] we will do everything in our power to keep the scourge of terrorism out of our country. we will keep it out of our country. just so you understand, people are pouring in from regions of the middle east. we have no idea who they are, where they come from, what they're thinking. and we're going to stop that dead cold flat.

[cheers and applause] and you just take a look at what just happened in your state. just take a good look and really think about it. ethics reform will be a crucial part of our 100-day plan as well. we're going to drain the swamp of corruption in washington, d.c. drain the swamp. [chanting drain the swamp] >> thank you. i will impose a five-year ban on executive branch officials becoming lobbyists and a life-time ban on officials becoming lobbyists for foreign government. change is not going to be easy.

i am going to need you to fight as hard for these proposals as you fought for this great campaign of ours. we are going to need our government and this movement to be more engaged and more vigilant than ever before to help us accomplish the reforms and overcome decades of stal stalemate and gridlock. we're going to get it done, folks. now that you put me in this position, even if you don't help me one bit, i'm going to get it done, believe me. don't worry about it. easier if you helped. don't worry, i'll get it done. importantly, we are all going to have open arms and we're going to invite everyone from all political persuasions to join our movement to help us achieve our goal for this country,

grade great schools, safe neighborhoods, a thriving economy and a government that answers only to the people, our people. [cheers and applause] we are going to have to dig deep, and i know you and i and all of the people working with us are up to the task. there are a lot of people working with us. every you will be the agents of change. change for our country, but good change. great change. americans must ignore the pessimists and embrace the optimism that has always been the central ingredient of the american character. we are the nation that won two world wars, that dug out the panama canal. that put a man on the moon and satellites all over

space but somewhere along the way, we started thinking small. i'm asking you to dream big again and bold and daring things for your country will happen once again. i'm asking you to join me in this next chapter of this unbelievable and unprecedented movement as we work toward prosperity at home, peace abroad, and new frontiers in science, technology, and space. i'm asking you to -- is that right? yeah. i am asking -- i love this. is he a believer. you are a believer, right? is he a believer. i'm asking you to believe in america once again. we have many challenges. but this is truly an exciting time to be alive. there has been no time like

it. the script is not yet written. we do not know what the next page will read. but i will tell you it's going to be a great page. but, for the first time in a long time, what we do know is that the pages will be authored by each one of you. each one of you. [cheers and applause] americans will be the captain of their own destiny once again. you know, i talk about our great movement. and you are the movement. i'm the messenger. i'm just really the messenger. although i have been a very good messenger. let's face it. right? i have been a pretty good messenger. [cheers and applause] so once again, i want to

thank ohio. i want to thank the great people of ohio. it's an incredible place, incredible state. there has been nothing like it. and remember this, it was when they called the landslide that we had in ohio that these extremely dishonest people started saying something's happening very big tonight. something's happening very big. and i have been saying it to you for many months. but i will say it one last time tonight. we are going to come together and make america great again. [cheers and applause] >> thank you very much. thank you, ohio. thank you. [cheers and applause] ♪ >> and a remarkable speech by the president-elect of the united states, donald

trump in cincinnati, ohio. a little over 50 minutes long. it wasn't clear exactly what the speech was going to be about before he gave it. it was billed just as a thank you tour but it was, in fact, an ideological framework, i think, for what he ran on and what he hopes to achieve as president and departed in very significant ways from the republican orthodoxy. maybe no surprise. but after a couple of weeks of watching his various nominations, many of whom are familiar faces to republicans, it was another reminder that donald trump has a very different vision for what government under a republican president can do. the first thing to notice was the pure animal pleasure that donald trump took in giving the speech. in many years of watching speeches over 20, i have never seen a politician enjoy himself more at the stage. probably 70% of it read from a teleprompter. written by his aides, perhaps steven miller. one the intellectual architects of this whole operation but a huge portion of it done off the cuff,

ad-libbed, something you never see from politicians at his level. and a huge part and perhaps the part he enjoyed the most recounting the many instances in which people on television were wrong in their predictions about how he would do in this election. the press, the deeply dishonest press. and he again loves every minute of it. a couple lines that jumped out at me. his pledge to rebuild rural america. one of the few political figures in maybe the past 20 years to note that the center of this country is really hurting and blanket pledge to rebuild it to basically marshall every force and every dollar possible to make those hurting parts of the country whole again. an amazing line here. the african-american community was so great to me this election. not a point others have made but he seemed to mean it and, again, reaffirmation of his pledge to new urban policy and then, of course, a lot about infrastructure. his child care program. again a departure from what

republicans in the past have done and a tougher line on business, i think, than any republican president has ever taken, a pledge not to allow companies to leave the united states. and then, of course, the news portion of the speech. his announcement that general james mattis, former commandant of the marine corps and widely respected military figure. wild dog mattis is his pick for pentagon chief. amazing. really not something that we have seen before from a man at his level and i have to say just as an observer pretty darn entertaining. we're joined right now by shelby holiday senior reporter. and caitlin huey burns national political reporter at real clear politics. is it fair to say that that's not what we expected? and much more interesting, maybe, than what i thought we were going it hear. >> in some ways yes, in some ways no. donald trump has not given many indications that he is going to change just because is he president-elect. >> yes. >> we have seen it through his twitter account which has been the main communication tool he has

been using. this is his first real public event in this kind of way. he certainly was enjoying himself. we also know donald trump is not one to necessarily bury the hatchet, so to speak. >> no. >> he did deviate from script to talk about his grievance. air his grievances. it is the season and so forth. it will be interesting to watch whether he can actually let those things pass. he talked a lot about unity. but he still has those grudges with the media and i think that's significant. >> i have to say and my editorial comment is, this shelby, how well earned are those grudges? you know, at a certain point, have you got to compare the predictions to the result and you kind of have to conclude a lot of people who are pretending to know a lot about america knew nothing. >> i think you're absolutely right. i'm just not sure this is the time to air those grievances. this was an incredible victory lap. this is a thank you tour. is he thanking people who voted for him. i'm not sure he is reaching out to people who didn't vote for him at this point. it was tremendously entertaining. we are sitting here in the studio. i have to admit we giggled a few times.

especially when he announced mad dog mattis as his defense secretary. the guy knows how to put on a show. we noticed he deviates from the prompter. when he was on prompter it was a very disciplined message. very uplifting unified message. when he went off prompter and attacked political opponents but republicans he ran against. >> john kasich the governor of ohio by name. >> mcmullen, people who are supposed to be on his side right now. he went after all kinds -- i actually have a list. he asked about the american flag and whether or not people should be punished. when he does those kinds of things, i think it's a little bit risky. because right now economic confidence is at a nine year high. people are feeling optimistic not just about current conditions but about the future. >> right. >> the market just set 8 records in november. people are actually feeling pretty good about this two weeks later. whether or not you liked donald trump or not, at least economically you are feeling pretty good. he risks furthering those divisions that are kind of

automatically healing themselves. >> yes. he may have reached a point of no return with the press. where he decided there is no way to win the political status with the names. >> it was truly satisfying to me john edwards -- john roberts, rather, who has not run for president unlike john edwards joins us now from the scene in cincinnati. john? >> good evening to you, tucker. you know, at the very beginning of this you were mentioning about christmas and how people were going to have a better christmas and a lot of people here dressed like santa claus. this speech was more like fess vas. festivus. so many nay sayers. i got the sense that the speech was a combination of aspirational, inspirational, and in your face. i mean, he was imploring people to help write the next chapter of america saying we don't know what the book will read but we do know that each one of the pages will be authored by each and every one of you. and at the same time, he turned around and he slammed

john kasich for not being, quote, in the you were echelon of politicians. he ridiculed the people who said he had no path to 270. he ridiculed the people on election night on television who were saying hillary clinton has got this whole thing wrapped up. you talk, tucker, about a candidate and now president-elect having fun? he was all about these rallies. this is what he loved to do during the election campaign. remember when his campaign kind of tried to put some reins and a bridle on him and he chafed against that he always loved a big rally and he got one tonight in cincinnati. he kind of lamented the new position of president, the security that comes with it at the beginning of his speech because the secret service had the bridges and roads were for blocks around the arena here blocked off so people couldn't get inside. trump said i'm going to have to talk to the secret service about some new kind of arrangement. it just shows how things do change in some ways when you

become the president-elect. but in a lot of ways, tucker. nothing changes from the campaign. >> well, i have noticed that this is a small thing but for those of us taya lot of president trump rallies playing a lot of set rallies. you can't always get what you want he chose himself. >> yes, each and every unwith of them when he added in the back street boys probably about the beginning of october, it was a welcome diversification from the rolling stones. >> i felt it was trouble but we disagree. >> now i think i have been ruined on the rolling stones for the rest of my levee, ducker. >> amazing. >> same thing happened with big and rich in 2000. >> thanks a lot for that i appreciate it. so here's what i noticed among the many other things was the intellectual under pinnings of the speech he went after identity politics

pretty explicitly. making the counter case against him which he is a divider and his point was in effect the politics of our modern era divides people by nature. he went after globalism in a specific way he said nice he eloquent summation people's deep les loyalty is not to a global community but to their local community. i think that's a compelling message because it comports with what people really want. >> yeah. what's interesting is that these are a lot of the things did he talk about on the campaign trail. >> yes. >> when we talk about we can't believe he said this or doing this, is he talking about the same kinds of things he was on the campaign trail. we also have to remember that donald trump is really kind of a third party cancer democrat. he is not traditionally a republican. we saw that with the carrier announcement today as a proposal and some of the things he talked with in this speak and not a democrat. he has run as one who is not beholden to either of these parties and can go outside the mainstream. i don't anticipate that i

thinking when he is the president. >> you worked at the "wall street journal," traditionally. kind of the mouth piece for a certain sort of republican orthodoxy. since teddy roosevelt, has there ever been a republican to look at big business and saying i'm grabbing you by the shirt color and force youing to do this? >> we're hearing it from the first time in very long time and also hearing it extremely unique way. a lot of people were a little troubled by carrier if you put people under fire these companies realize we're going to clet to send jobs oversees and doing doo something in return for that. we still don't learn the exact terms we loner more about it today. he is focusing on businesses. they could call up on the phone. he will listen to them. he will talk with them and engage with them. what do you need right now? business leaders are acting positively.

>> basic orthodoxy on economics is essentially libertarian. they are the most important thing. >> pricks are usually pro-free trade. >> that's not at all what he is saying. is he not saying governments th government shouldn't interfere saying social stability is the point. >> look at the numbers in the attracti attraction. a number of the people he attracted were not the conservative traditional republicans. yes, it deviates from republican orthodoxy or conservative principles but he's delivering on an election promise which is also a deviation from how politicians tend to operate. so i think the carrier decision, while it is opened and should be open to critiques and the precedent that it potentially sets, i think it was an important symbol for him to start out his term saying, look, i did this for you. i said i was going to do it and

he delivered. people want something done. >> that's for sure. >> that's a very good point. >> the left hates me so much and thinks so little of him and dismisses him out of hand. i wonder if anybody listened to that speech. the critique he's a demagogue and he went off track. there's all kinds of stuff in there, a critique of modern american society. >> it was fascinating. and for the first half of it he was on prompter and on message. it was very disciplined, very uplifting. people really listened to it and thought wow, our jobs are going the get betde ebetter, our wage might go up. then when he went off prompter, he was in and out of the speech. he does so well with the crowds. but it took away from the brilliant underlying message. >> a little bit of everything.

but if somebody reads a lot of prompter, pretty hard to reading prompt ter to sort of free styling out there. and he did it pretty -- he's good at it. thank you both for joining us. sean hannity interviewed the president-elect and we want to th throw to a cut like that. trump sat down for an interview in cincinnati with our own sean hannity and we want to play a little bit of what transpired in that. watch. >> i'm down to probably three or four. >> are they from your list? >> from the list. they're terrific people, highly respected. brilliant people. and we'll be announcing that pretty soon too. we're going to be rescinding executive orders but i don't think we're going to have to use very many executive orders because we have a congress that's going to go along with things and i think a lot of democrats are going to join the train if you want to know the truth.

>> have you talked to any? >> yes. a lot of people said he's never been in politics. i've been very active mostly from the other side. but we're going to have a lot of democrats joining us on a lot of these things, maybe even health care. but so many of the things we're going to be pushing are common sense whand we'll get a lot of support. >> trump was talking about supreme court court picks. you can watch the entire thing but sean's interview with vice president-elect mike pence and reince priebus all on his show at 10:00 p.m. eastern tonight. >> president-elect trump second up a lot of support from working class measures. during the thank you tow he's going to visit many of the cities that supported him. joining us now a david polk. one of the experts on demographics in covering american politics. great to see you.

how big and how unprecedented was his win among this newly famous demographic, working class. >> donald trump did better with working class whites than any republican other than ronald reagan which is stunning. hillary clinton had more working class white than any democrat or republican since the world war ii. donald trump did better with the blue collar men since the second world war. from the voters herom the spoke to night. >> so the question is why. my theory is two-fold. he doesn't hate them, unlike the left. and two, he's abandoned the stumbling block they had to join the republican party, which was

their economic program. they didn't like the republican economic program actually a and the republican leaders didn't know that. >> absolutely. the party of hyper capitalism didn't notice that the majority of their voters, victims of capitalism. number two, listen, he came off lee greenwood tonight. first of all, that speaks the symbolism of the offense. the presidency is as much about the symbolism. when he starts speaking with pride, alluding to the icons of middle america like coming out to lee greenwood, very reaganesque, i think that speaks to something far deeper than policy. obviously -- well, not obviously. but the between election reminded us that they're made in the gut, not the head. >> he's also making a deeper

pitch which is against the hyper capitalism that you mentioned. he's not against capitalism, he's a beneficiary of it and a promoter. but there's nothing we can do, which is obama's position, hillary's position, i'm sorry it's over for you, we're going to retrain you or whatever. >> the carrier news. that an necdote is what preside obama didn't do. but what's important about that is he went beyond the market forces. he went beyond the norms and said i'm going to use what power i have in the bully pulpit to save those jobs. he hadn't done that and the jobs went to mexico, he would have been destroyed today. the fact that he did that speaks to exactly what populous on the left and right wanted to see from barack obama during the great recession.

they wanted to see a president who said regulations be damned, norms be damned, i'm going to make the great recession, the economy, the blue collar crisis >> yes, that's right. >> i'm going to make that my alpha and my omega. that's what it will be about. which would have meant donald trump wouldn't have won the presidency. but of course barack obama didn't do that. >> why? because they're beholden to the market fundamentalists who don't believe that. >> they see the working white class, the people traumatized by the great recession as an opposition to sort of the next america. i will also say there was tension, there were e-mails in back rooms about, you know, we don't want to give jobs to burly men. >> and by the way, if people think you hate them, they don't

like you. >> or if you just leave them out. hillary clinton didn't speak about the white working class, she left them out of the conversation. >> she called them privileged. there was an amazing exchange today and i don't think it's been on television yet at the kennedy school. the communications head over on the hillary campaign and kellyanne conway got into this debate and it was said you won because of white racism. my read on is that they believe that. that's the explanation for the election results. do you think they believe it? >> they believe it. and it disservices the democrats the most. you're saying their point of view doesn't matter. you're invalidating every concern they have. the democratic party is so sensitive to this, the opposite dynamic occurs. if a conservative was to say

that about a woman, that you're being emotional, that's obviously inappropriate. you could see what triggered the anger. and you don't see -- >> the root causes we used to call them. >> you don't see the democratic party extend the same tolerance and sympathy to the v voters who once were the keystone of the democratic coalition. >> is there anyone on the democratic side, any smart person who's thinking about this clearly and trying to really understand what happen to their party? >> well there's obviously people on the outs with the democratic party, like jim webb who clearly was an icon of sort of the reagan democrat and i think how he came to be thrown under the bus with the con temporary democratic party really does capture the problem democrats have with some of the very voters that they should most speak to if they actually say

what they mean >> agree with that completely. one of the smartest people i've ever interviewed, jim webb. tucker carlson tonight. each weeknight at 7:00 eastern. thanks very much for watching. here's megyn kelly. good night. breaking tonight, president-elect donald trump winding up a barn burner of a speech moments ago in cincinnati. telling supporters the best is yet to come. and telling detractors he has not forgotten. welcome to "the kelly file" everyone, i'm megyn kelly reporting tonight from naples, florida. it's withbeen a day of victory e for mr. trump first in indiana when he put companies on notice that they will not leave america without consequences. then it was on to ohio where he held his first rally since winning the white house and here are just a few of the highlights. watch. >> people are constantly telling me