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trump went off calling them the dishonest media. is he sending a signal as president he's going to continue his hand-to-hand combat with the press? >> i think he is. he's doing this because he's hoping it will inoculate him against the media when in the face of future controversies when the media continues to criticize him, but what the media could do is take this as a challenge to be sharper and more precise in its coverage. >> let me play you a bit of what trump had to say in the rally and get your reaction. >> breaking news, donald trump has won florida. they say, whoa. and we won it big. but then the people back there, the extremely dishonest press -- we won in a landslide. that was a landslide. we didn't have the press. the press was brutal. >> he did face a lot of negative press. would you have advised him to
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rub salt in the wounds of some of these battles with the media? >> donald trump is a master at creating these narratives. every good narrative needs a bad guy. the press has willingly played in. >> willingly? we like being beat up? >> the reporters i talked to understand they never found a way to adequately cover donald trump during this election. they don't know how to change it now, so they're still doing the exact same thing they did in the election that didn't work that time. >> michael, it seemed like trump was mending fences a bit after the election. he went to "the new york times," he had a meeting with executives. he needled them as well. now he's playing the greatest hits about the corrupt media. >> i think we'll see that as it suits him. sometimes he'll be willing to, you know, try to extend an olive branch and sometimes when he gives his big rallies, he's going to do what he does. i think what the media needs to be watching out for are
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substantive things. if trump lives up to some of the promises, keeps some of the promises he made about the press. like he said, "the washington post" are going to have big problems when i'm president. they're going to have big problems. >> what do you think about the point of the media willingly playing the role of bad guy or foil for the president-elect? >> yeah, there's probably something to that, i think. i think that's true, and i think that's going to be a pretty antagonistic relationship going forward, and the media in general, probably didn't really think he was going to win. so they didn't take a lot of his stuff very seriously. >> and they didn't want him to. they made it clear. >> they didn't think he was going to. now that he has, they're going to figure out, what do we do. >> your point on the both modes is interesting. he went after katy tur all the way through the campaign. he also gave her a lot of access. >> she's an nbc reporter. >> she covered him from the beginning. so many times before she went on nbc nightly news, she would say
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i just got a call from donald trump. >> so michael talks about substance, the media freak-out, that's a technical term, folks, over the weekend was about the president-elect accepting a call from the president of taiwan, breaking decades of protocol under which we officially recognize china. we have an unofficial relationship with taiwan. and just a couple of the headlines, erin. politico, bull in a china shop. it's newsworthy, but does it deserve this level of craziness? >> one thing is for certain. the american people are going to tire of the word unprecedented very, very soon. that's for sure. you know, i would point you to early 2009, about the 100-day mark into president obama's presidency when he met the venezuelan leader, hugo chavez, and there was a freak out over that. there is always a learning
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curve. the press is going to score it as such, and the opposition party is certainly going to bring attention to it. >> the problem is everything the same. their amp goes up to 11 on everything. when he went to dinner without the protective pool, the coverage was the same as him talking to the president of taiwan. >> we only have one volume. our volume knob is broken, i think you're saying. look, trump using his twitter weapon, i guess we can call it, defended this. even as all the diplomats and experts were saying the isis horrible and shocking. and china, by the way, strenuously objecting, saying interesting how the u.s. sells taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment but i should not accept a congratulatory call. before that, we go to the news conference. the devastating fire in oakland, california, friday night. let's dip into that.
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>> okay, obviously, they're setting up in oakland. there have been regular briefings on the situation there. and this is the first one for this sunday. it's really a remarkable story. let me know if you want to stay with this for now. converted warehouse, people were living there. it became kind of an artist colony. here we go. >> make sure everyone can hear us. do a sound check, insure everyone can hear us. we just had the generator turned off, so we want to double check on the sound. okay. >> speaker's not working? you can hear it? okay. >> how about now? is that better. >> as i was saying, the former residents called it a death trap. here we are getting under way. >> we're into our second day, so
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we appreciate your patience. my name is officer watson. i'm one of the public information officers for the oakland police department. we would like to update you this morning regarding this tragic fire. currently, we have with us sergeant kelly from the alameda county sheriff's office as well as the battalion fire chief, melinda drayton. i'm going to right now turn it over to fire chief battalion to discuss with you some of the logistics that have occurred during last night. >> good morning, everybody. my name is melinda, drayton. battalion chief for oakland fire. i took over from our deputy chief last night at approximately 9:00 to start our night of operational period
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which lasted 12 hours, ending at 9:00 this morning. our goal was to work collaboratively with public works to breach the b-side, the left side of the warehouse building, the fire building. in order to gain access for our firefighters, and alameda county sheriffs. to be able to remove debris, systematically from the building, to the vacant lot next to the building. literally bucket by bucket, in a methodical, thoughtful, mindful, and compassionate way. we had firefighters with basically cover-alls and buckets and shovels taking bits of debris out into the vacant lot to then be loaded into dump trucks and removed to an off-site location. in order to do this, we had to
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gain access by breaching the wall with heavy rescue equipment, specialized tools, that turned out to be a very successful operation. we have gone from one end to the other end of the building, encompassing approximately 20% of the building. searching for victims and doing debris removal. at this point, we have approximately 80% left to search. so within 12 hours of our operational briefing, we made it through one fifth of the building. this will be a long and arduous process, but we want to make sure that we're respecting the victims, their families, and our firefighters' safety to work slowly and carefully through the building. public works brought in an unbelievable amount of equipment that worked in concert with the firefighters in a very teamwork
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approach to make sure that everything was removed that needed to be removed out of the building, that we took care of everything that may cause any hazards to our firefighters, and i can tell you when i was in there throughout the evening, the somber approach that our firefighters and alameda county sheriffs department members took to this search. it was quiet. it was heartbreaking. to get through what we were able to accomplish in 12 hours was a phenomenal feat. we have a lot more to go. we're going to be here for a few more days just getting through the building, if you do the math. and we'll be taking the same approach. >> thank you.
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>> good morning. sergeant ray kelly with the alameda county sheriff's office. i'll be talking about the coroner's bureau operations, our work at the family assistance center and where we are and what we have gone through last night. as the chief described, you can feel that emotion in her voice. we all feel that. when i came back this morning and i saw our people, our firefighters, our first responders, our deputy sheriffs in there, they're tired, they're exhausted. this is very emotional. i want to update people on where we are, as far as how many victims we have, how many more we possibly anticipate, and where we're headed right now. we have located thus far with about 20% of the building searched, we have located 24 deceased victims of this fire. we have only been able to do
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three official notifications to families. so this is going very slow for us. because we have to go back to our coroner's bureau and try to identify these people. this is very hard work. and it's very slow. and it's definitely taken a toll on the first responders here, and we're working in a 12-on/12-off capacity. so we have people around the clock, and we will be here for days and dayses to come. i have a few requests that i ask of the public and of the press. if people would no longer call the number that we originally had put out, we have been completely overwhelmed by phone calls. so we're asking at this point that you not call that number, unless you have a legitimate concern that someone you know is
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missing. we have contacted every family member, we have sat down with them. we have cried with them. we have spent hours and hours with them. we couldn't do this without the assistance of the red cross, the city workers, the chaplains, the amount of people that have come forth to help, i mean, the offers of assistance have just been amazing. so we couldn't do it without all those people. as we move forward later on today, we will begin to release names of the victims. and that's going to be very hard. we want to do that in a respectful manner. we want to make sure that the families are prepared for the names of their loved ones to be public. in the coming hours, we will be releasing victims' names. i'm going to refer back to officer watson. >> thank you, sergeant kelly. last night, oakland police
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officers did what we call an area-wide search. what they did was went through and they looked at all of the parked vehicles gathered license plate numbers for any of the victims that may have driven to this location, and we're trying to match vehicles with registered owners, with cars that have been driven. so we're working this scene from many different angles, many different resources. many different agencies involved. i will certainly open it up for questions. we're going to be brief on the questions, and let me explain to you for the reason why. we would like our city officials such as the mayor to be able to have her opportunity with the media as well as provide additional information as the sergeant and the battalion chief indicated, we still have and are recovering more additional
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victims, and as the information is made known to us, we want to share it with you. at this time, i will say we will have a media availability as of 11:00. a media availability at 11:00. we'll certainly send out an advisory. i'll ask again if you have not provided us with your contact information, again, we have a lot of media that is from out of town. please, i'll be available. my partner officer marco marquez will be available. we'll collect that information. yes, sir. >> you say the number is 24? can you give us any idea, were they all found together? secondly -- >> we have been watching the news conference in oakland, california, about friday night's fire in a converted warehouse that had become an artist haven where people were living illegally, where there weren't enough exits. described by some former
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residents as a death trap. the news here, more than doubling of the confirmed number of deaths in that fire in oakland. it had been ten when we came on the air this morning. it's now 24. that number is very likely to go higher because as you heard officials say, they have only searched 20% of the warehouse. so still a lot of devastating searching to be done. obviously very heartfelt responses by the officials describing that painstaking search. fox news correspondent adam housley in california has more information. adam. >> reporter: yeah, we're here right now. you can see over my right shoulder, that's the building. the press conference is off to the right-hand side. you don't see it, but as i step away, they moved one of the trucks out of the way so you can actually see inside right now from this angle, the two-story building where basically it's a pile of rubble. i had a chance to talk with a chaplain from the fire department as well as several other firefighters who have come out of the building this morning. they were in there for about
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four hours and say the view inside is completely devastating. one of the firefighters said all you can do is pray for the people who were inside the building. have been told they have found a number of victims. they're not officially announcing that. they did not give an exact number, but we know according to the firefighters that a number of victims have been found together, basically piled on top of each other as if they had found each other in this horrific fire and together were trying to find a way out, but none of them made it out. he says there are a lot of young people inside that they have found, again, they won't elaborate on the numbers at this hour, but they believe it could be as many as 40. a very, very tragic scene here in oakland. one that continues to develop, of course, and when we talk to the firefighters as they come out, they also have this look on their face, one of just complete sadness, guys. a very difficult situation here, of course, as you might imagine. >> adam housley reporting for us in oakland. thanks very much, adam. >> grim news indeed, as we reported. we'll continue to monitor this throughout the day.
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let's get back to the conversation we were having about the media coverage of president-elect donald trump. i just brought up before the news conference, that he had accepted this congratulatory call from the president of taiwan. this sparked sharp objections from china. going back to the panel, sarah, trump, as i noted, took the twitter, his favorite way of communicating with the american public and said interesting the u.s. sells billions in military equipment to taiwan but i should not accept a military call. does the press get too upset? >> in all of d.c., but in particular, the press likes certain things to happen next to another certain thing. they're a little ocd, perhaps, in their coverage, and president-elect trump has thrown that playbook out the window in the last six months. the press needs to start catching up to the idea that he's going to be far less meticulous in his wording because that's not how real people talk to each other. in protocol and those kinds of
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things. the press needs to take a larger, a 30,000-foot stance and stop chasing the rabbits down the holes in the meantime. >> on foreign policy in particular, this is going to be true. there's foreign policy is built around this elaborate, very embroidered language of diplomacy that everyone uses and that trump obviously is not going to use. it's going to shock people. and it's going to get -- it's going to be really easy for reporters to call people in this town and elsewhere who are shocked and who are appalled, and it's going to make for big stories. >> one of the tweets that got so much media attention, and rightly so, is in the face of the recount effort, which is now failing, trump tweeted that millions of people voted illegally in this election. if it would not have been for that, he would have won the popular vote. it wasn't based on any fax, and the trump people have been pushing back. they haven't been able to defend
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it or provide any evidence. >> and some of these tweets have unsubstantiated claims or he's raising a opinion with the flag burning tweet on tuesday morning. i don't think all trump tweets should be covered equally. the tweet with respect to the taiwan call, when he put out his -- when he said, you know, as you just mentioned, the u.s. sells billions of dollars in military equipment to taiwan, that kind of tweet, analysts said, he may have a point with that. >> yeah. >> you're right. >> that kind of tweet made the kind of impact that no damage control spin could make. that's an important tweet to cover. >> he's entitled to talk about flag burning. and a lot of people probably agree with him. >> but every time the media overreacts to one of these, his favorables keep going up. >> you're saying it's working for him. on the other hand, he really went after cnn in a series of tweets after the millions of people voted illegally.
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correspondent jeff zeleny did a report in which he suggested trump is being a sore winner. the president-elect retweeted a guy who turns out to be a 16-year-old kid. pathetic. you have no sufficient evidence that donald trump did not suffer from voter fraud. shame, bad reporter. kid said he didn't say bad reporter. that was added. what do we do when he chooses to -- when donald trump chooses to go after journalists and news organizations by name for reporting on something he said earlier for which there might not be much substantiation? >> for all of the hand wringing and what not by reporters, it's helped all of their ratings. they massively benefitted from this entire cycle. the idea they're going to cry foul and keep reporting it, it's silly. >> one way we could do it is when he has opinions or unsubstantiated claims, it could be a tweet of the week or the tweet of the day with a sidebar story in a newspaper, but not every tweet should be covered in the same way.
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>> even if we agree it's perhaps a bit of media overreaction and every thought doesn't deserve a full day of cable news coverage, there is also the question of holding donald trump accountable and how do you do that if not by focusing on his own words and what are the implications for policy and are there facts to back it up and so forth? it's kind of a dilemma for our business. >> it is a dilemma. it is a dilemma. there's a school of thought now that says, well, let's not give all this attention to all these tweets. because when he does these tweets, he's doing it to distract from something else that's going on that's more substantive and more important. >> that's a position. may be partially true. >> i'm describing something, i'm not supposing it. maybe it is that thought out on his part. maybe it's not. but it highlights that this is a really new situation for the media. we have never had a president in my adult lifetime who just says what's on his mind. >> we have to get a break. our time was truncated.
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the coverage of the transition? joining us is mike huckabee, former arkansas governor and presidential candidate who is a vocal supporter of president-elect donald trump. thanks very much for being here. let's go to the endless drama about the cabinet search. you have said that mitt romney, looked at for secretary of state, at his dinner had a slice of humble pie. why are you and many others in the media mocking him so much when lots of former gop rivals are kind of mending fences with or saying nice things about the president-elect? >> you know, i don't think it's about a personal thing, but it's about the fact that mitt romney didn't just disagree with donald trump. he went after him in a way that was unprecedented for somebody who had previously been the
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nominee. he basically called all the followers of trump a bunch of suckers. he said that trump was a fraud, a phony, a con man, a failed business guy. i mean, that's pretty serious stuff, howard. here's the question. why would mitt romney want to work for someone for whom he held such contempt? i think the obvious question is, there's so many good people that he could select for that role, don't put somebody in there that is not only going to be maybe not compatible with your views but really that will create a firestorm among the people who elected you. >> i totally understand that. but the president-elect obviously has a different view, or might. we'll see whether he or one of the other contenders gets picked. "the new york times" had about a zillion word piece a few days ago about donald trump's real estate holdings around the world and all the conflicts he could face as making decisions as president. aren't those fair questions given that foreign leaders around the word may try to curry
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favor with the new white house? >> there are fair questions in the great universal sense. let's be realistic. donald trump has a lot more on his mind that some business deal he has going anywhere in the world. the fact he's donating his salary to charity indicates he's not doing this for money. nobody in their right mind, in fact, a survey came out today that showed donald trump even under the most conservative estimates of his wealth, is actually more wealthy than the first 44 presidents combined. donald trump doesn't need the money. so i little ludicrous for somebody to say, oh, trump is really going to be working to try to maintain his fortune. he doesn't have to work to maintain his fortune. that's one of the refrisching thing s about his presidency. >> you said "the new york times" didn't have credibility, but he went to the newspaper and had an hour-long conversation there. >> i'm not sure why he spent that time. that was an hour he would have
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spent napping and probably have more of an effect on his future. >> or tweeting. >> i have a real disdain for some of the gas bags in the media who have done nothing but nit-pick everything donald trump has said and done, most importantly, they have nit-picked the manner in which he has said it. they need to understand, whether they get it or not, we're in a world of new media. this is not the days when people sat down and leisurely read newspapers and got ink on their hands. a few of us still like that medium. i'm included. but it is a day in which most people get their news from youtube and from short bursts of tweets and facebook posts. donald trump is capitalizing on that. i think a lot of the traditional media are gasping for breath because they don't know how to handle a guy who understands people's maybe ways of getting news better than they do. >> for me, the question is
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whether it's driven by continuing hostility. i have about a half a minute. you had a meeting with the president-elect. you say you turned down an offer to run a department. why not join the administration? are you still considering it or being considered? >> you know, again, that's a conversation that i only want to have with donald trump. i want to be able to be helpful to donald trump in whatever way i can. i'm not sure that being a federal employee is the best way i can do it. yeah, i kind of enjoy sparring with guys like you. >> all right. let's do it again, governor. good to see you. thanks very much. and we'll be back with more on trump and twitter and other subjects. stay with us.
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a quandary for the news media. really? joining me, mark, former correspondent for abc and cnn, and susan, chief congressional correspondent for the washington examiner. susan, "new york times" is asking the question, whether it's news when the president-elect says anything? >> i know. what's interesting about trump is he's not the pioneer of twitter in the white house. that, of course, was obama. he's got 16 million twitter followers. the top rated network newscast has 9 million viewers. so think about that. he tweets something, and he gets more of an audience than the top rated evening news. of course, what he says is news. just this morning on social media, he put out a message that he was going to reup his tariff threat of companies that leave the country could be threatened with a 35% increase on imports. of course it's news. >> he also went after "snl" for the tihird time as unfunny and
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alec baldwin's impersonation bad. if trump tweets something that doesn't have a factual basis, like millions of people voted illegally, the media shouldn't amplify it. if he suz something like that, isn't that news as well that we should all scrutinize and debate? >> a lie is perhaps more newsworthy than the truth. i don't think everything heicize is newsworthy. what he ate for. [ fst is not newsworthy, and "saturday night live" is newsworthy, but not big newsworthy. says something about his thin skin. presidents make news by both what they do and what they say. >> so for twitter, which a lot of people may find weird because they're not on it, but it was a 30-second video on youtube. if it was a short press release sent by fax as they used to do, would anyone question it? >> i suppose his opponents would. teddy roosevelt used to gather the reporters around when he was
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getting his morning shave at the white house. >> at least in that instance, reports could ask questions. a lot of this is going around the media, which other presidents have tried to do. ronald reagan started a weekly radio address. it was news when reagan would shout a few words over the helicopter blades. i understand everythingtient be pumped up to 11, but i'm having a hard time understanding this oh, gee, he's tweeting again, and we're falling for it. >> falling for it is like a way of delegitimizing trump, which i think the media unfortunately has fallen into a habit of doing. i think the real question going forward for trump on twitter is a very practical one. is he going to have two twitter accounts? the potus, he will inherit that from the president. i suspect that will be monitored, regulated, and handled away from him. will he keep his current twitter, which has 16 million followers? will he have that on the side? so daytime potus tweets may look
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more traditional like we have seen from president obama. then maybe we'll get these 3:00 a.m. tweets from the real donald trump saying things about tariffs and "saturday night live." >> i just wonder which would be considered more newsworthy. to me, this is another manifestation of the journalistic idea that donald trump must be covered differently than other presidents. because look, he does things in a different way. just because he's using twitter, just because there are 140 characters, although sometimes he does multiple tweeds, there is a media debate about it. >> i think some of it is what susan said. there's some denial. i also think the media feels like it got played by trump, manipulated, and there's a lot of soul searching being done by the mainstream media about how to deal with that. i'm not defending that. i'm trying to explain it. and there's a sense that yes, we don't want to be just stenographers for power, particularly deseceitful statements. to go to the other extreme and
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say we're not going to cover it at all is ludicrous. >> maybe there should be journ l journali journalistic soul searching about the shortcomings we all had in the campaign saying trump had no chance, even on the morning of the election. some of them still haven't accepted him, but he's breaking all the rules here and that makes it interesting and newsworthy. thank you very much for joining us. up next, we'll talk a bit about kellyanne conway who seems to be making lots of news, and morning joe, they got into a little spat. i use what's already inside me to reach my goals. so i liked when my doctor told me i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating what's within me...
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kellyanne conway is known for speaking her mind. that has prompted some pushback from the media. while donald trump has seriously been considering mitt romney for secretary of state, his former campaign manager seems to be leading the opposition. >> why are you campaigning against mitt romney as secretary of state? >> i'm not campaigning against anyone. people feel betrayed to think that governor romney, who went out of his way to question the character and the intellect and integrity of donald trump now our president-elect would be given the most significant cabinet post of all, secretary of state. >> then things got even weirder. joe scarborough reported that he was mad at the woman helping lead his transition, and kellyanne texted him during the show. >> this was somebody going
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rogue, according to the top three people in the trump organization. trump furious. we have a response from kellyanne conway, who says about our reporting this morning, it is sexist. she says she can have any job she wants. and thinking about taking a role inside and outside of the campaign. i'm not sure how that reporting is sexist because those were sources at the top of the campaign. >> not sure if it was sexist, but it seems to have been wrong. trump said he encouraged conway, approved her going public with her concerns about mitt and considers her a tremendous asset. a rough week continued at a harvard forum where jennifer palmieri, hillary clinton's communications director, let her have it. >> if providing a platform for white supremacists makes me a brilliant tactician, i'm glood to have lost.
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i would rather lose than win the way you guys did. >> do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform? >> it did. >> i can tell you're angry, but wow. hash tag he's your president. how's that? i understand they're angry, some are bitter, but they made it very personal last night. >> we heard you were acruised of giving a platform to white supremacists. do you think the perception still exists and is the campaign concerned with that? >> it's not a fact. it's completely false. that's why i asked jen palmieri, communications director for hillary clinton, if she would look me in the eye and tell me i ran a campaign that allowed that. >> i get there are very raw feelings, but the clinton folks and media need to come to terms with donald trump's victory. why is donald trump going after a major network anchor? that and more when "media buzz" returns in a moment.
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why was the newly elected president of the united states going after abc's martha raddatz. we talked about the cincinnati rally earlier in the show. here's donald trump. >> how about when a major anchor who hosted a debate started crying when she realized that we won. how about it? tears. no, tell me this isn't true. >> well, here's the context, and we'll show it to you. it was late on election night, and martha raddatz, abc correspondent and anchor who spent a lot of time in war zones with the military was quoting tim kaine saying his own son was serving in the military and he
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wouldn't trust donald trump as commander in chief. and then she added this, so let's play it for the viewers. >> that's a pretty extraordinary thing to say. if you have a son in the marine corps and that you don't trust the commander in chief. people in the military defend the constitution. >> we're back with the panel. erin, what do you make of donald trump seizing on that moment and making it that martha raddatz was crying about his election? >> first, she wasn't crying, and there weren't tears. and matthew dowd, who was on set right next to her went to twitter and said i was sitting right next to her and she did not cry. abc came back and said she has been on the air for seven hours, and so her voice may have cracked. i think that's as far as you can go with that one. >> radts herself said it's fiction. she didn't choke up. she looked choked up, but everyone can make their own decision. >> you pair that with the debate performance where she decided to debate donald trump herself
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instead of letting hillary clinton debate him, that's the foundation for the argument she cried. i think she sounded like she was choked up. >> a little bit of an overstatement. but in your opinion, she was tougher on clinton than trump. >> she debated trump, but more to that, i don't know of a single reporter who was rooting for donald trump in this, and there were several rooting for hillary clinton. that's the problem this gets to, a larger narrative. >> i can move on right now, and you know, one of things that i been struck by is that many of them -- the political headline was team of gazillionaires. let's look at the media chatter on this subject. >> billionaire investor wilbur ross for commerce secretary. todd ricketts, deputy commerce secretary. sensing a pattern? >> administration is starting to
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staff up with its top names. turning into a full employment program for the nation's billionaires. >> t"the washington post" did a full report on this. their collective wealth in many ways defies trump's campaign promises. because they have made a lot of money, they're anti-populist, is that a fair assumption? >> it may prove not to be a fair assu assumption, but it's not totally unreasonable on which to base a news story, i don't think. >> jfk, fdr, were pretty rich guys who did a lot for the middle class. >> they were, but fdr's labor secretary was francis perkins, wasn't a rich person. all these cabinet people are rich in both administrations, both parties. that is certainly true. trump talks a very, very different game. that's fair. >> obama's ambassador appointments were mostly donors. i didn't see the collective media -- obama had more than any
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past president. >> and his commerce secretary comes from the hyatt family, worth about $2.5 billion. is there an assumption -- by the way, if these people carry out policies that favor their wealthy friends, the press should hold them accountable. but they haven't taken office yet. is there a perception where it's different. >> there's a presumption of incompetence given to republicans, but the american people elected a billionaire president. someone who is a current businessperson. the idea he's supposed to shake off all business ties to his own business, he was never going to appoint someone he knew through his business ties, that's not what the american people said on election day. until he starts taking actions in one direction or the other, the media needs to take a deep breath and find a new way to cover him. >> he talked about seeing a report on nbc nightly news about people at the carrier air
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conditioner plant saying they thought he had promised to save their jobs. the great symbolism of what he did, whether you think it's a good deal or not. to come back to the flag burning tweet, after a fox report where student opposed to trump's election were burning a flag. it wasn't out of the blue. to wrap up on his use of twitter, sometimes he gets to set the agenda. >> again, with that particular tweet, that has -- that precedent has been set by the court on flag burning. >> he's being provocative. he didn't say i will propose on my first das -- he said, i think they should go to jail if they burn the flag. a lot of people agree. >> it tweets would stop if he is president. kellyanne conway was asked if the tweets will continue once he's in office. she said that's up to him and the secret service. >> thanks. still to come, my take on president obama blaming the trump victory in part on fox news and too many bars? ♪
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and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis. sometimesoff camera jokes are just not funny. listen to this video of suzanne malvo waiting for donald trump's plane to arrive in indianapolis. >> yes, i did. okay. that means his plane crashed. >> that means the plane has crashed? cnn says in a statement an inappropriate remark was made by one of our producers off camera yesterday. we have apologized to the trump transition team and the producer has been disciplined. good response from cnn but can you imagine that morbid joke being made about president obama's plane? barack obama couldn't resist. just couldn't resist. after eight years in which he
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often seemed to have one network on his mind -- >> look, if i watched fox news, i wouldn't vote for me either. good, affordable health care might see thing a fanged threat to the american people on fox news. >> now he's taking one parting swipe. obama explained donald trump's success among white working class voters this way to "rolling stone." part of it is fox news in every bar and restaurant in big chunks of the country. a part of it is also democrats not working at a grassroots level. obama did partially blame his own party but here is what's striking. the president has the world's biggest bully pulpit but he often portrays fox as all but drowning him out. some folks at this network pushing back. >> this president for all of his kind of no drama obama comes out and in a very infantile manner blames cable news -- >> i mean we are number one. he thinks we control the
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universe. >> the great irony of this is that he complained about fox news to "rolling stone" magazine, the people behind the fake uva rape scandal. they were just found guilty of defamation in a federal court. >> that's true. "rolling stone" suffered a huge black eye for that bow jugus st. at times he has used fox as a scapegoat. what would have been better is if the president, not to mention hillary clinton, had done more than a precious few interviews with fox as a way of reaching the very voters he says the democrats have lost touch with. that's it for this edition of "media buzz." i'm howard kurtz. thanks for watching. we hope you'll check out our facebook page, give us a like. we post a lot of original content there. mediabuzz@foxnews.com. maybe a comment about the media. no political rant. and continue the conversation on twitter @howardkurtz.
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