it, sidelined for 36 years before he would get his shot for the heavens again, to remember as he always reminded those who doubted, we are a great species. keep trying. keep flying. hello, everyone. it's 5:00 in new york city. and this is "the five." we're waiting for president-elect trump to deliver remarks after meeting with the victims and first responders of last week's attack at ohio state university. we will bring you his statement as soon as we have it. first, on the topic of terror, a stunning admission by president obama claiming he never knew about the isis threat during the group's early days. >> the rise of the islamic state surprised you, it took you by surprise, it took the administration by surprise. >> the ability of isil to

initiate major land offensives, that was not on my intelligence radar screen. >> not on his radar screen? really? even after being warned by his predecessor about the consequences of pulling u.s. troop s out of iraq. >> begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous. for iraq, for the region and for the united states. it would mean that we would be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. it would mean we allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven to iraq to replace the one they lost in afghanistan. it would mean increasing the probability that american troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is more dangerous. >> what about president obama's own administration officials who said this? >> syria has become a huge magnet for extremists.

>> its current leader is a designated global terrorist and we believe is in syria. his mission is stated in his statements is to carve out a zone of governing territory from baghdad through syria to lebanon. >> the scale of what they are involved in, particularly the al qaeda element in iraq and the level of destruction that they're having, the level of killing that they doing inside of that country is terrible. >> eric, despite all of these repeated warnings, directly from the previous president to president obama, his an administration officials, including you see general flynn making comments and giving that testimony, fell on deaf ears. >> a young senator obama from illinois with no foreign policy experience comes in. he is president. he is probably shocked by -- and ov ov overwhelmed by what is going on.

he didn't listen. he didn't hear the prior administration and change his policy. he stayed with, we're going to close gitmo. he never said islamist extremist. tried a friendly approach to combat isis and terrorism instead of going strong and hard. at least we have a new president-elect who is listening to the prior president. he sat down -- donald trump sad do sat down with obama. he is listening to people who were at high level jobs within the white house. i think donald trump is doing things differently from the way president obama did things when he walked in. by the way, it has to be overwhelming to hear about all the stuff going on. >> absolutely. you are shaking your head. >> he shouldn't listen to president obama. that's crazy. he said it wasn't on his intelligence screen. there's an alternative. it's the television. co-ha we were talking about this. we were talking about this while

they were still playing down the threat of isis. the reason why president obama did not admit that this was a problem was for two reasons. one, he hated the source. he has a problem with adversarial criticism or adversarial advice. if somebody from the other side says, look out, this is a problem, that's fox news, that's dick cheney or that's george w. bush, screw them. also the second part is he didn't want to offend. he has the constant islamaphobia phobia. he realizes if he talked about radical islam he will piss off a lot of people. this will go down as his massive blind spot. it's like his drug problem. it's like when you go and approach somebody and you say, i think you have a problem, he will consistently deny it to the end. isis is not a problem. radical islam is not a problem. none of the people in his inner circle were willing to do the intervention necessary to say, look at this stuff, it's real,

people are dieing. now we're at a point where they are everywhere. you know, i'm talking as -- i'm talking as an interventionist. >> he doesn't want to hear about it. the thing is you see that people that served in his administration are starting to tell the truth about what's been going on. we're going to see more of this. he will have to live with his legacy. he left isis on our doorstep. welcome to the program. want to thank you and your family for the service, sacrifice and your husband, what a heroic, amazing american soldier. thank you from us on "the five." your thoughts. you know better than anybody having somebody that has served right there in the field, trying to deal with these situations and these issues. then you have a president who despite the info and intel from the field chooses to ignore it and modify rules of engagement which makes it more difficult. >> i think it's a concern he says it wasn't on his intelligence radar. that might be a slight way to pass the buck to the intelligence community.

we can see that wasn't the case. he did have the information. he chose not to believe it. i think that could come -- i don't want to psycho analyze too much. i think we can see he doesn't have a high regard for military or high-ranking officials, secretary of defense was a guy with physics, rather than military, which is fine. it shows he is not respectful of generals, i think, that were leading in the fight. having said all of that, he would rather believe we are overstating things, that it's not as big a problem, that we don't have to worry about it that much. he is really worried about offending people that are peace loving muslims, who belong to the religion of islam instead of calling them the extremists extremists. i think that part of this is just him not wanting to admit it. maybe he legitimately was surprised. he didn't know that those terrorists could gather up and overtake a major city in syria. maybe he didn't think they were that serious. he has learned they are.

>> certainly found out the hard way. what do you make of the situation? >> i want to have a touchdown near reality some place in the conversation. what obama said was, we're flawed, we make mistakes, we're human beings. did we make the best decisions with the best information available? he believes that he did. what that best decision was was to say that american intelligence did not give enough credit to what he was calling the jv and has been mocked at this table and elsewhere on fox. the reality is -- he points this out in the interview for those of you who want to read the transcript. he says, there was no way to anticipate that the prime minister would pursue such a sectarian agenda that would alienate the sunni muslims and drive them towards that al qaeda. he had no way of knowing what was going to go on with assad, the brutal dictator in syria. we could talk about red lines and all the rest. >> why don't you?

>> that wasn't at the time. >> sweep it under the rug. >> i'm not. you are ignoring reality. >> you are ignoring the fact they said if they cross the red line -- >> that's after. that's not the period he is talking about. >> okay. got you. >> finally, he talks about something greg talks about every day, the propagation of terrorist agendas on social media. again, obama is simply saying, these were not elements in place at the time, eric, at the time he is talking about. one last point, everybody at the table says, but president bush told him. president bush told him. what president bush told him was, he didn't want to withdraw the troops at the end. he said, this is going to open the doors. you heard in the sound. but what president obama said was two things. one is -- by the way, general petraeus -- everybody loves general petraeus. he said there's no guarantee we would have had added leverage.

what president obama said was, unless we can get a deal from malika th maliki for our troops, we're not going to play this game. there was no guarantee it would have stopped al qaeda. >> can we start with the failure at benghazi? can we start with the failure at removing gaddafi? can we start with failures throughout the middle east of removing people who you may not agreed their ideology, you may call them dictators, in the absence of that when you bring in al qaeda, the factions of radical islam that are going to fight for power, we're left with a more dangerous middle east every single time. >> it has been destabilized. >> are you talking to me or george w. bush? george bush took out hussein? >> i'm not defending what george bush did. in the last eight years, name one country that you feel is safer and where you have a

better relationship with now than we did prior to barack obama, besides iran and cuba. >> i think that israel, our primary ally in the middle east, is safer today because -- >> you do? you could be the only person in this region. >> netanyahu wouldn't agree with you. >> how about in the world? the world said this is a good deal to stop them from having nuclear weapons. how about the people coming in to trump's own administration? >> you are speaking on behalf of israel. i'm so sorry to tell you that netanyahu completely disagrees with you. he knew that was a bad deal. it did not make israel one of our key allies safer. it compromised our relationship with them. it compromised security and stability in the middle east. >> there aren't any countries that are safer. we have a better relation with. >> i tell you what, the united states of america and our military young men and women who had to be on the ground, they are safer, they're not in harm's way. >> i will wait. >> one thing -- i know we are

going after president obama, condemning him for abandoning the red line, which led to the migration disaster, which led to an increased worldwide isis threat. he chose the path that isn't much different than what we're hearing now. there are few people at this table who are saying don't do anything on syria either. you can't say to him, he screwed up by not backing up the red line. there were other people that felt that way. how are we going to reconcile with a belief system that disrespects the idea of a secular solution? the only way to keep these religions from destroying each other is a secular answer. it ain't going to happen with islam. that's the long-term fear that we have is lack of assimilation. the problem with president obama lastly that -- is that he is the one that is conflating radical islam with islam. when you talk about the threat of rad kas cical islam, we're n talking about muslims. we're talking about red calload

islam. >> islamaphobia. exactly. let me -- >> i totally agree with that, especially on the religion point. you could say the kkk can say they are all for christianity and they represent christianity. we know they don't. i'm okay as a christian, passionate about christianity to say, they are claiming that, but they're idiots. they don't represent me. we need to do the same thing with radical islam. that's final, islam, muslims there are peace loving people in those groups. this is a different group. this is a hate group. >> along the same note, you are talking about me when you said going into syria. i was against going into syria. absolutely against it. i am against us getting involved in syria. however, it's either go or don't go. i'm behind you, president, if you go. we are all behind you. or i'm behind you if you decide not to go. when you say, if you cross this red line we're going to go and they do and you don't, you have -- >> he doesn't back anything up.

guess what, president-elect trump isn't even in the white house yet, he makes a claim, he backs it up. >> why do -- why did congress say don't go? they refused to authorize it. republican majority congress. >> juan, that's about enough. president-elect trump's fight to keep american jobs in america escalates into a war of words with a union leader from carrier. details directly ahead.

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less than three hours away from president-elect trump's third thank you tour rally in des moines, iowa. stay tuned for his live remarks at 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight. after announcing his deal with carrier to keep jobs from going to mexico, he is coming under fire. the union leader of the plant he visited last week slammed mr. trump accusing him of lying about the number of jobs staying in indiana. the president-elect lashed out at him with this tweet.

jones then responded this way. >> he got up there and, you know, talked about 1100 jobs remaining here, which is a falsehood. he denied ever saying anything that he promised to keep the carrier jobs in this country, which was a falsehood. you know, i was calling him out on some of the things that he was less than honest with. >> then the president-elect tweeted again. juan, this is all over president-elect trump saying that 1100 jobs are going to stay. in fact, 1100 are going to stay. 800 will stay at the carrier plant. 300 will stay in america but not at the kacarrier plant. a united steel workers head is complaining jobs are staying. why this petty fight?

>> i don't think he is complaining the jobs are staying. his complaint is that, as i read it, he said that president-elect trump came out there, you remember, and he said 1700 jobs have been saved because i made a call, i intervened, i am where the buck stops and i don't want american companies thinking they can leave without any intervention. we know about 500 jobs are going to stay. we know about -- >> it's 800. >> i'm sorry, 500 are going. seven to 800 are going to stay. another bunch of jobs in huntington, indiana, are also leaving. what chuck jones is saying is it wasn't as big as what donald trump had advertised. he said as a result, i think he used kind of offensive language talking about the president-elect. but he said the man lied. >> i look at states like indiana -- like michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, with union workers, blue collar workers -- >> they voted for president-elect trump.

so that tells you sort of the proof is in the pudding. they were very responsive. they wanted to hear what he had to say. they believed he, in fact, will get the deals done. we have seen evidence of this before, like i said, he has even moved into the white house. he is being a man of his word. he said, i understand, i hear you, the working men and women that feel you have been forgotten. we will answer the call. we will jump into action. that's what we are seeing. i think this has been really effective because now you will see other companies think twice. it works as a pre-emptive strike before they think about exporting jobs out of america and into mexico and into other places. they will say, wait a second, hold on. they are talking about what decisions they are going to make. the voice will come up and say, wait a second, maybe we better not take the jobs off of american soil. >> 800 jobs with the steel workers union. it's only 800.

he saved 800 jobs. >> it's unseemly. it's a silly argument. i have to say this. i don't think companies should have to think about in a free market. if this is going to help your shareloe shareholders, you should be allow dodd what to do what you. if amazon is eliminating baggers and checkers, should you put a 35% tariff because they are using technological progress? if you are using heavy duty excavating equipment that replaced 100 workers, should they be taxed? should you have 150 workers with spoons digging dirt instead? because that employs all of them. this is not a long-term solution. we have to understand this. this is not a free market idea. this feels good temporarily. but it's going to run out. we have to be honest with america about that. >> part of the deal though -- people seem to forget this is that every state, every governor of every state does the same

thing. they try to entice companies to come into the state by offering them tax breaks, by offering them the same things that might -- >> incentives. >> mike pence and donald trump arranged for carrier. >> it's a good idea. bottom line is donald trump is trying to cut through bs and say that people like -- you have had fun being the leader of the union and acting like you are god but you are not. let me show you how simple this is. the bottom line is, more jobs were saved than left. i think chuck jones is offensive. he didn't do that. donald trump seems to have done it simply. >> he didn't have effective leadership. he wants to minimize it with his mickey mouse mask. these guys aren't serving people. >> he saved jobs. he represents the jobs that were saved. he is complaining it was 800 not 1100. >> he wants credit. >> this was not an incentive. he is trying to retain jobs. >> mike pence arranged an incentive. >> an incentive to bring jobs

in. >> they arranged -- >> so to kimberly's -- if i am an employer and i hear that, hey, guess what, i'm leaving, send me money, too. so now we're -- this is what george said yesterday -- george willis said this is the first step of socialism. >> it's also about reducing regulation and making a business friendly environment that's conducive to jobs on american soil. >> every company with the same deal that carrier got, american jobs here and it -- >> it will be the american taxpayer. >> here is the perfect metaphor. next time you go to vacation in mexico, 35% tax because you didn't go to dorney park in america. same thing. >> it is. you are going to mexico on vacation and taking money out of this country. >> that's not true. >> we will incentivize you -- >> what if i don't want to go? >> then don't go. >> you are a bad man.

>> your incentives are telling the truth. >> you are looking at -- >> you need the incentives because the choice is wrong. >> those are apples and oranges. the water park? >> no. no. >> the choice was right. you say i'm going to mexico. the state of pennsylvania says, we have a special at dorney park, it could be really cheap. >> that's not -- >> you are threatening a 35% tariff. that's what donald trump is doing. that's not incentive. that's a threat. that's a stick not a carrot. >> those are two spots to vacation. one you go to get engaged. one you don't. i wouldn't go to dorney park to get proposed. >> you are missing out. >> you lose the ring in the water theme park. >> there you go. >> republicans arguing this case here because right on capitol hill paul ryan, kevin mccarthy say we are not going to do it. >> up next, global warming alarmists visit trump tower as the president-elect taps a

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here we go again. leo dicaprio met with donald trump to talk clean energy, meaning anything that can't fuel leo's jet. it raises this question, how did leo get here from cali? did he ride in on a solar powered windmill? this is what we need, a jet s settise setting yacht lounger telling us how to live. it's odd that he is there especially after who was there, al gore. the point of trump was to reverse this parade of elitist pr propagandaists. remember, climate change is the

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he should be able to handle criticism before he moves forward with something. i also think he is extraordinarily smart to get pruitt in there. while some people think it's a criticism to say you are a friend of the fossil fuel industry, i differ on that. i have a lot of friends in oil and gas. they have been laying people off for a long time now under this administration some of the most generous people. they haven't been able to give to charities while oil and gas has been hurting. i would argue that pruitt is helping people today. that's important. i don't think it's ruining the world. i think it's fuelling leo's jet. he could get behind that. i think we need to appreciate that pruitt can see past some of the theory and help people who need their jobs today, help put money back in the pockets of the people that are working hard for it. let leo and al gore talk about it at trump tower and have coffee. that sounds fine. >> i love that he just nominated the guy who is suing the epa.

>> the best part. >> look how excited. >> as people who dislike the epa and the regulations and the way it is stifling business, he is seen as a rock star in that world. he is suing the epa, the group he will head soon. which tells you there will be rolling back of regulation. i think that's going to free up money. >> there should be. >> as it is -- some companies -- the waterinsane, how you have to -- if they just spend the first two years working on water rights, that would be a huge win for america, especially the growing industry. >> juan? is he going to get through? >> it's going to be a hellish confirmation fight. he took an industry lawyer's letter, changed the heading to the oklahoma state and sent it to the epa as a complaint. he's industry oil and gas industry officials writing complaints and he backs them. he put together republican

attorneys general across the country to support the oil and gas industry. the one that i really -- oh, my god, he lost his case, but he tried to get a change that would have allowed big companies to ple pollute the air near national parks. it's out of control. at some point you have to say, i don't know, by the way, i love this about al gore and leo going. i think trump plays with us every day. the press is like a dog. go, get out of here. >> it's like cat and mouse. >> do you think that donald trump's choices -- he is not interested in presenting a pr compromi compromise. >> people voted for this change. he is tired of all the regulations that are crippling

the people. he wants to put forward a strong idea and platform for energy independence in this country. we are not sitting there held hostage by the middle east because we are dependent on their oil. why not? why not go for this development? fracking and all the wonderful opportunities that we have in this country that have been sidelined by this administration for eight years, including the pipeline. get it going. >> let me say, we do frack in this country. >> not enough. >> let's frack more. >> oil prices are low. >> stop. >> we pay at the gas pump. that's why you are -- that's why your friends in oil and gas aren't building. >> a $50 barrel of oil is not cheap. >> all right. >> up next, president-elect trump meeting with terror victims in ohio. we could hear from him at any moment. we will bring it to you. stay tuned. i stood outside, assessing the situation.

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only a month after winning the election where he campaigned on the promise to be tough on terror, president-elect trump flew to columbus, ohio, where he met privately with some victims and first responders of last week's attack at ohio state university. you may recall a somali refugee launched a car and knife attack injuring 11 before a brave police officer shot him to death. mr. trump delivered remarks after his visit there moments ago. >> this is a great honor for me today. we're in a fantastic state that i love, ohio. and we just saw the victims and the families. and we were really -- i mean, these were really brave people, amazing people. the police and first responders were incredible, the job done in particular by one young

gentleman was incredible. and i got to meet him. he was very brave. the families have done so well to come through this so well. a lot of respect. of course, senator john glenn today, the passing, he was really -- to me, he was a great american hero. a truly great american hero. i met him on two separate occasions. liked him. always liked him. but he was indeed an american hero. nice that you are here. this was an honor for me to be here today. thank you all very much. thank you. >> greg, you can say what you will about donald trump, but i thought the fact that he met in private with people who were victimized by this terror attack was a great show of discretion and restraint on his part. >> two points. one, after terror attack, no mention of islamaphobia, no mention of backlash, which is

somewhat refreshing. but i get the impression -- i am learning this from president-elect trump -- that he will never set foot in the white house unless he has to. he seems at ease on the move. he enjoys going places. you can't say he hit the ground running, because he has never stopped. he is always on the move. again, this is the first on the road president. he goes and just goes and goes. >> because he's a doer. he doesn't sit there and talk about ideas. he goes out and meets people and sees the situation, assesses it, talks to them, shakes the hand of the man that was able to save the people at the ohio state university. this is what leadership looks like. >> wait a second. >> the reason why it seep seem shocking is we didn't see it in eight years. >> holy smokes. president obama, president bush didn't meet with victims of terror? >> i did not say anything about president bush. i said the past eight years. >> i think both presidents have done this regularly. >> there's plenty of times where

president obama did not go. >> let me ask about, what is your take on what greg had to say about no mention of islamaphobia, no mention of radical islamic terror by donald trump? >> this is the benefit of meeting the people. when you really get there and you talk to the first responders who handled it, the families that were affected by it, you can see the heaviness in donald trump as he is speaking. i can feel the breath that he is t taking. he is deeply affected as he should be. that's the important of a president on the go to get out and meet the people. just talking to first responders is something we haven't seen as far as giving the police respect and thanking them. that's a refreshing change. for a guy who you say he is hitting the ground running, technically he's not on the ground yet. he is not president yet and he is doing these things. that's very refreshing to see somebody that is feeling the pain of it. it gives me comfort to think he will do more to prevent terror attacks. he is feeling the pain and

talking to first responders who have to deal with it. >> the other side of the question, eric is, as greg said, no mention of islamaphobia or radical terrorist jihad. >> there was, not by trump. >> that's what i was talking about. >> this terrorist, it could be a misunderstanding. this terrorist must have experienced so much racism, must have been traumatic for him. the students were -- >> sympathizers. >> over time they will probably get used to the fact that donald trump isn't going to be barack obama. it will fall on -- >> let me add, the other side of this is that some critics would say that trump's visit -- no one died -- stirs fears of islamic terror, even though he didn't mention it. is that fair in your mind? >> my goodness. >> he went and patted the first responders. >> stirring up -- >> if he didn't go, you would criticize him for not going.

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so far, president-elect trump has tapped three retired generals to join his inner circle. john kelly to head homeland security, james mattis for secretary of defense, mike flynn as national security adviser. some democrats and members of the mainstream media claim there may be too much military influence. retired four star army general jack keane disagrees. >> if the concern is that the generals are going to push the country toward war, that is -- that's nonsense. our history is, we force and demand our national leaders to

exhaust all the options if they listen to us before they select a military force option. when that force option is selected, the generals are insisting we want to see a set of clear objectives and an end state. that is what they insist on. i don't see militarizing the national security function as being anything that's dangerous to this country. quite the contrary. >> kimberly, what do you think. >> i agree with general jack keane's comments, because they make he is a smart, learned man. he is a man who understands war, he understands how we need to get things done. and he understands the importance of having true leadership in positions like this of tremendous importance to national security. why wouldn't you want to put america's best, brightest, most devote and patriotic to this country? everyone talks about whenever you can, hire a veteran. because they make fantastic

employees. they are hard working, focused, disciplined, loyal. they don't look to make excuses. they take charge and they have solutions. they don't like wallow. >> juan? >> i don't want to live in a military junta. i fact you said john kelly, general homeland security, general james mattis, defense. don't forget, mike flynn at nsa, right? he was a general. then you go into some people -- remember, you have got someone under consideration, navy admiral mike rogers to go to cia, david petraeus, secretary of state. mike pompeii, went to steve point. steve bannon was a former naval officer. >> oh, my god.

>> wait a secretary. >> he is digging deep. >> former navy experience? >> i'm just telling you -- >> too militarized. tr >> trump has no military experience. >> what experience did obama have? >> be careful. >> i will say this -- >> trump went to military academy. be careful. >> the point is civilian control is so key to who we are as an american people. i think it's very important. >> can i throw in here i'm excited about this cabinet so far. it's a very, very conservative cabinet. look back and you look over the years, even beyond ronald reagan, this is more conservative. you have generals. pruitt will roll back the epa. business titans heading up the economic development team. if you are a conservative, you love this cabinet. >> saying you have too many generals is like saying you have too many adults.

there are as the false assumptions, the reason people talk about it's scary, is that a warrior is war-like. that's not true. the least are almost uniformly men in uniform because they are saddled with unerasable memories of death and destruction. they lost family members. >> like general kelly, lost his son. >> exactly. they value life more than a pacifist. >> one more thing is up next.

it's time for one more thing. >> america lost a hero today. astronaut, senator, john glenn, passed at age 95. one of the original magnificent seven astronauts, he captured our attention. the world obsessed about him in 1962. the world was holding its breath as we waited to see if john g n glenn would successfully orbit the earth and return. he dropped out of college to enlist in the army air corps. in 1974, he won a senate bid and represented ohio for four teams and ran for president. he kept us on our toes. in 1998, at age 77, john glenn became the oldest person in

space. >> that's amazing. god bless him. what a phenomenal human being. >> i have some -- i think i have this. dana perino news. we go to josh earnest who fields a question today about dana. >> she was certainly more than an honest broker. she was somebody determined to try to help us understand exactly what the job required. and what resources were available to us to do that job as well as we possibly could. that's why a lot of us have enduring respect for dana and the way that she did her job. it's been fun having her around here today. >> i should have noted that she was there earlier that day. sounded like something happened to her. she was just visiting. >> she's alive and doing well. >> she's doing well. it sounded like something happened. >> okay.

now it's my turn. call colin kaepernick, standing ovation for this admiral. received ovation for calling out kaepernick at an event commemorating pearl harbor. he took a swipe at the 49er quarterback for refusing to stand during the national anthem. take a listen. >> you can bet that the men and women that we honor today and those who died that fateful morning 75 years ago never took a knee and never failed to stand whenever they heard our national anthem being played. >> there you go. that comment brought the crowd to applause, thunderous applause and a standing ovation. respect the flag in this country and the anthem, all of it. >> i have a great idea for colin kaepernick. take a cue from shaquille

o'neal. >> the relation between police and people is very close. started to expand a little bit. we need to bring it back. i really love and respect police. they have a tough job. they do a lot for our community. we just have to keep it tight. >> he is now a reserve police officer in south florida. what a great way for colin kaepernick if he wants to take a knee because the country is oppressing african-americans, ride with a cop, one or two days and see if you change your mind. >> exactly. i love it. >> it's great advice. i tag on to what shaquille is saying about appreciating first responders. our mission is to honor god and country by serving the marriages of those who serve. the reason that we do that is because in the bible it says you put god first, marriage second. kids third and in doing that the family thrives. i want to take this opportunity to thank the people out there serving and fighting and their spouses and families for doing

it with them. we know that all of the people who serve could have done any number of things in this life. they chose to sign up, give their lives for this country for very little pay and very little appreciation. god bless you and thank you for serving. >> all right. "special report" is next. this is a fox news alert. president-elect trump nominates another member of his cabinet today as one of his picks comes under heavy fire from the left. first, the death of an american hero. john glenn, the first american to orbit the earth died today after being hospitalized for more than a week at a columbus, ohio, cancer hospital. he was 95. president obama called glenn an icon who spent his life defending our freedom and breaking barriers. donald trump described him as a pioneer or hero who inspired generations of future explorers. my colleague john scott looks back at the remarkable life a