tomorrow, i'm gonna step out with my favorite girl. ask your heart doctor about entresto®. and help make the gift of tomorrow possible. talk to two of trump's campaign managers, kellyanne conway and corey lewandowski. so now the coming/incoming commander in chief is going to work. >> and the party is now trapped. we've got this president-elect who is deeply compromised by russia. >> democrats and abusively biased, they're pushing cia's

assessment of the undeniable fact. but, of course, you need to know the truth. it is not. >> and trump canceling a news conference on avoiding future conflicts with his business empire. >> how he plans to separate himself. >> no idea ow honor the president will say keep hymn from leveraging private business that they otherwise not do. that can wait until next month. >> what about the commentators actually urging gop leaders to dump trump? and aides saying they may detail or curtail the press briefings. the media go haywire over that. plus the journalist who was filed over tweeting something about donald trump and his former wife ivanka.

i'm howard kurtz. and this is "media buzz." we begin this morning with a woman who has become the face of the presidential transition. kellyanne conway. she joins us from his mar-a-lago estate in florida. good morning. >> good morning. >> let me start with something that the news story said was false. he said if russia or some other entity was hacking, why did the white house take so long to act? why did they complain only after hillary clinton lost. but james claerp formally accused the russians of hacking during the campaign. how do you reconcile the two statements? >> they're easily reconcileable. he says it actually interfered in a way that switched the election results toward hillary clinton. he wasn't willing to do that which puts the president at odds with many in his party. i would say even hillary clinton

is saying at her party or wake or whatever you want to call the russia hacking affected the election results. no, they did not. she knows she ignored wisconsin and michigan which obama won by four points and donald trump just won. so, look. it f the intelligence community wants to be serious about this and produce evidence, we, of course, will look at that. they were invited to an intelligence briefing and didn't show up. they'd rather leak to the media. that should bother people running around on their high horses beating their chests saying they're genuinely concerned about not undermining our dmochlkt stop leaking to to media. >> no question the leaks have added to it. you went off on white house spokesman josh earnest after he said the other day, well, look, trump obviously knew during the campaign that the russians were

hacking the e-mails and this was hurting hillary's campaign and he invited russian hackers to find her deleted e-mails. why did you respond? >> some would say, howie, he knew what donald trump knew and he would obviously know and how would he know that? in fact it was his own boss, president obama the next day coming out and saying, look, i told vladimir putin to, quote, cut it out or knock it out at some international conference know, when donald trump made that comment tongue in cheek about going and getting her e-mails. the e-mails were already in the main. i would point point out for your viewers because nobody talks about it for many reasons, it was a pro-hillary pro life group. they tried to cherry pick some

of his e-mails to make it seem that, you know -- to help her, although unfortunately for her, she had -- colin powell made criticisms, but we can't have it three different ways because people can't get over the election results. he underperformed. underperformed with white voters. >> let me say something. >> go ahead, please. >> you can return but i want to show you this. this is rngs of course, about the formality. those at the "washington post" have embraced the idea of gop electors going rogue to block or overturn donald trump's victory. what do you make of that and all the coverage that this is getting? >> well, rather than listen to people who aren't the election

to tors, i would go and look. there are many, howie, where it's any combination of i will respect the will of the voters in this state that voted for donald trump and giving him all the electoral votes in that particular state. in some states there's a penalty if you don't abide the will of the voters and other people know this is one last-ditch effort to turn around the election results and make them what everybody said they were going to be because they totally missed the election. they totally missed what america is and what they want in their presidency. i would note you've got these sort of out of work actors and actresses embarrassing themselves this week. one guy plays the president on a drama called the west wing. he's not the president going to the west wing. that's donald trump. that's getting a little out of hand. >> you have -- >> you can mention his name.

they're actually trying to do this. but i -- people talk about this every four years. we're not worried about this. we take everything like that very seriously. our attorneys -- >> it's a nonstory. >> by the way, it wasn't a squeaker, folks, get over it. he need ed 277. he got 336. >> they say there's going to be a need for white house daily briefings. i understand the argument but isn't that the one chance reporters get every day to try to get answers to questions from a top administrative official? >> no, not necessarily because if you look at the last couple of press secretaries, they have the daily briefings, but they don't answer the question, do they? there are many ways to communicate with the press and obviously many ways for them to

communicate with us. whou've got a president-elect very powerful on twitter. do they cove every single tweet auto there. but, look. this is donald trump. unconventional candidate, no military political experience. america looks at that as a bonus. it could be an unconventional white house. we'll be respectable to the press. frankly -- >> speaking of communicating with the press, donald trump used to routinely criticize hillary clinton for not going with a press conference. he hasn't held one since july is. that going to change any tile time soon? >> everybody was focused on the wrong point there. >> all right. the record will show that your answer was perhaps. real quickly paul krugman wrote the following on twitter. there was, rightly, he says, cloudability or george bush,

dispelled wrongly by 9/11. donald trump called krugman demented. what do you make of that rhetoric? >> that has no place in our democracy. here's why. he's taking on the president of the united states and accusing him of doing something or thinking something in a sirnlt way that that's not just false but in the media. do you look at twitter feeds whifeeds? you have kcolumnists who clearl wanted different election results accusing the president of something. that's a very dangerous charge. i would say for everybody who's beating their chest and all high-minded about undermining our democracy, they should think about these words. i would like for him to apologize but i would like for

the new york times to get their arms around it. is this the appropriate way. >> all right. we'll see if paul krugman apologizes. finally, kellyanne, our remaining minute. you said one reason you have elected to take on the white house is you have four children between the ages of 7 and 12. some women in the name of feminism jumped on you and said no mother of children should ever work in the white house. >> i lost him. tell me when to answer and i will. i know what he's asking. >> go ahead. >> keep going, howie. i lost you for a second. some are childish, so i appreciate their nonadvice. and for others who felt the need to tell us about their breast-feeding schedule. that's weird. i did that four times but don't like to share the details. look, these are personal decision. at the core of feminism it's supposed to be that we make our

own choices prove italy and deliberately for families. by the way, some, it includes elderly family. it's not always children and i'm respectful of that but i want to put it to rest in this way. i work for a man donald trump and vice president mike presence who are family-supportive and making it welcome for those who want to be there. if i go inside, i'm completely confident thatly be respected, that i won't have to pretend that i don't have children and a lot of women out there in our work force, over 300 million american women, howie, don't have that privilege. the minute you try to go to a dance recital or baseball game, it's not listed on page 362. donald has working daughters and

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at "the federalist." and julie. mo molly, i'm rather surprised. they embrace this crazy town scheme and the electors that what's always a formality should basically go rogue. >> it really shows it. this is not just a problem at the "new york post" but "new york times." not a single one is supportive. you see people taking hold that doesn't deserve a lot of coverage. it's not just the columnists. the lead page is all about the electoral college. nobody really thinks there's going to be a chance that it's going to go away. the story admits that, so why are you covering itsome. >> if hillary clinton had won a close election, you gould ins e

insane. >> if you think about what the electoral college is there for, it's literally in mane. it means that it can potentially happen. you have the popular vote regip yant who would win. >> and wouldn't this take away and invalidate those? >> i'm not disputing what you roy soefr. the mechanism is there. why not cover it. otherwise, why have it. let's go with the popular vote. >> if it is such a crack pot scheme, why is it getting so much coverage? >> there's one elector. >> all right. one, two, three. >> so it's worth covering because somebody has suggested they're going to buck the system. still it's worth a little coverage. >> a little coverage, sure. >> these columnists have a plat forj to say whatever they want. good. fine. what's good about it, this is an

american civics lesson. it's worth talking about the constitution. >> but the press including a pulitzer prize-winning columnist says, this should happen. donald trump was supposed to have a news conference this week. he wasn't ready to talk about how he's going to deal with his business empire or at least to eric and don junior. the press hasn't seemed to acknowledge there's an easy solution. >> unlike almost every story out there, this is the laej mat story that deserves a lot of coverage and what it deserves is not just this, freaking out and constantly hostile coverage but really an understanding how complicated it is, how there aren't any good answers. no matter what happens. this is a story we would have been dealing with either way. she also planned to turn over her foundation, which has a ton

of foreign conflicts to her only child. >> there's also a lot of coverage by media of trump's children. is coverage fair or -- >> it's fair because she knew what she was getting into. it was never going to be easy. that's not our problem. he doesn't divest of all of his holdings, especially abroad. whether it's complicated or not, it's not something they need to deal with with. you have to deal with it or don't run for president. >> absolutely. this is a very rich kbie who everybody knew that when he was elected president. >> the problem with pushing off the press conference is simply that the press is going to go digging and lead to many more negative stories until he has a

press conference. >> so until there are unanswered questions, the more they'll stir the pot. >> by the way, i'm still waiting for her press conference. >> i've got go to break. stay put. if they curtail those daily briefings, is that bad news for the public or press corps. later, the journal iist who- r painter to quit part way. i think you missed a spot. so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? aleve, live whole not part. painter: you want this color over the whole house?

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advisers indicate there are those. >> would you advocate for daily presidential or white house press briefings by the white

house press corps. >> we'd have to look at it. i don't know that they'd have to be on tv o v or the camera. >> it's important for the public to get questions answered. >> they could be. but the white house can ask questions any time of day. it may lead to better journalism if the reporters ask questions individually if they don't tip off what they're writing about to others. >> nobody talked about an exclusive story. you say you can walk in. it's hard especially if you eastern not a big network to do that. the press briefing on camera, isn't that a way of holding the administration accountable? >> it is. but why not have a briefing when there's just a big news event that everybody wants to ask questions of. i think this can turn away from pack mentality. not saying they should do away with it but theying of why they have them, it's worthwhile.

>> you'd better go check your twitter feed. >> when trump starting saying it, you've got a lot of hostility. what reporters need to focus on is making sure there's a lot of transparency, flexibility. getting the information they need. i don't see them doing a great job with that. now i don't know exactly,000 change it because it's important to get it during the administration, but a lot of what happens is you have reporters posturing, trying to look good as they ask a question. they don't do good tag teams so i would like everybody to rethink it. >> sure, it does turn it into political theater and you do have reporters that want to ask a tough question and the press secretaries also know they're going to get one or two sound bites but still, you know, in the era of cable news and 24-hour news, isn't there something constructive about that? >> it's constructive in that you

don't get to go to your favorite news channel where they're going answer questions that you want to answer, asking questions you don't want to answer and the nice part about it is this is as transparent as it gets. you get to "meet the press." you don't know if there's a big news event going on. both sides aren't going to necessarily wave a flag saying, wait, wait, we're covering something up unless they have an opportunity to ask about it. >> it's also a way for administration to drive a message. there's news every day. people get to see that. >> that's right. now, to kellyanne conway's point. kellyanne conway goes on the news every single day. again, i'm not saying they should go away. i'm saying think about the fact that there is a pack mentality and this could drive it away from that. you see reporters complain all the time as they get news-fed

news. >> coming up, trump's first campaign manager corey lewandowski uncovers transition and why he thinks the editor of "the new york times" should go to jail. later steve heayes on the rollover conservative magazine in the trump era.

♪ everything your family touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. corey lewandowski has been one of trump's fiercest. he is free to speak his mind and joins me now from new hampshire. kocore corey, you said, everyone took what he said so literally. the american people didn't. you say sometimes you say something and don't have the facts to back it up but my question shouldn't the media

hold a candidate to his words? >> of course, people are accountable for their words, howie. but you have to remember people have to understand that donald trump is going to be game-changer in washington. he talks about a carrier as an example. he said as an example, we're going to make sure they don't ship their jobs to mexico. he saved 1,100 jobs in indiana from that carrier plant that was going to move. those are the types of things he's going do. he talked about that in the broader scale of saving american jobs and what he talked about is actually literally saving those jobs. >> you say he got it when some would shoot from the hip and the media were parsing every word but it seems like it's another way of saying, well, he doesn't really have to be held accountable for his words because if we qaa him on it, he can say, well, i was just using an expression, i was being

sarcastic, i didn't really mean it. >> no, no, no. what i'm saying is that what he was speaking about saving jobs in america, i don't know if he actually said i e going to be able to go save those carrier jobs. he was using it as an example. the difference is we've seen donald trump in the five weeks since this election, save 1,100 jobs in indiana, do a deal with the foreign government where they're going bring 50,000 jobs to the country. that's what he talked about, the grand scale of bringing those jobs back to america and making america first. that's what he talked about. >> one of the fact checkers h said this and this is wrong. this is contradicted by the other state and so forth. do you think that's resonated because most people who voted for trump don't trust? >> look. if you look at the polls coming after this election. 97% of those surveyed say they didn't let the media bias weigh

on their decision. i think it's been very clear and there's been multiple studies on this that the media was biased and he bypassed the mainstream media by his twitter feed, rallies, by going directly to the american people and connecting with 30 million people and pushing that message out of what he wanted to do. that's what drives the mainstream media crazy that he can go right to the american people and tell it to them directly. >> let's talk about the executive editor of "the new york times." you said by publishing a couple of the year's tax returns that he had committed a felony against him. that this was egregious and he should go to jail. but the person who broke the law here is not him but whoever sent those tax returns to "the new york times." >> i agree with you. but as you know, dean went to harvard university. he was willing to go to jail. he was encouraging someone to break the law and use his purchase ahead of the new york times to say he was going to

publish that information knowing that it with uld go doing be obtained illegally. look. i don't think that's right. he was a private citizen. as you know, he said many times as soon as his audit was done, he was going to release the taxes. that's the privilege of being a private citizen. if donald trump wanted to relice his taxes, he could have done that. it's a felony. >> we can debate whether being a presidential candidate is also the same as being a private citizen. but as you know, corey, to expose wrongdoing or doing what they think is in the public's interest, when you talk about criminal pen ats for journalists, that could have a chilling effect. do you not see some value in the press digging up stuff and getting -- journalists getting their hands on material that's supposed to be secret? >> well, look. the question is what in donald trump's taxes did we learn that was going to change the outcome of the election? nothing. we learned he's as rich as

everyone knows he is. the laws are so fundamentally flawed that he's going to change those so people can't take advantage anymore. there's nothing in there. that was a material decision that was going change the outcome of the election. what i don't understand, there's a difference between publishing classified information that has an impact and publishing someone's taxes that doesn't necessarily change the election. >> you resigned the day after the election. obviously you may take an administration job. cnn took a lot of flak for hiring you. it seems like most would be beating up on you, said you were a horrible person. what was it like being on those panels during your time at cnn? >> well, look. let me say i have a lot of friends at cn and i want to thank them for the opportunity to be able to defend donald trump during this election cycle. what it comes down to, i wanted to be able to have the opportunity to speak my mind anywhere i wanted. look.

i have good friends at cnn and they're honorable people. i want to have an opportunity to spread donald trump on all networks and that ice why i chose to leave cnn. >> did you feel like -- >> i've got broad shoulders. i have taken my fair share of bullets, not as much as donald trump. my shoulders are broad and i can hold my own on any of those panels. >> finally the election is other. what does he gain from continuing these harsh tweets against cnn, for example, new yorkx, nbc, "vanity fair," and senator graydon carter. he's settling scores, but how does that help him govern? >> look. it's not about governing. what donald trump said is i'm

not going to let people be untruthful about me and not counterpunch. it think it's a grit opportunity go directly to the people and tell the truth. it's something where no one has had the privilege of doing. he can put out a tweet or it's the breaking news of any major network. he's used it to make sure the truth is getting out and that's important. >> no question about it but when you were writing his campaign and many of those tweeting would cause controversy, did you ever say, sir, you need to step away from the twitter? >> look, my job wasn't to tell donald trump what to tweet or what not to tweet. he's a grown man. but more importantly he fundamentally understands what the american people are after. when he talked about just recently not allowing the flag to be burned, i'm just saying what the supreme court has said but i know 80% of the american people agree whether him on that and he has his finger on the pulse of the american people and

has used twitter. i think it's a great benefit to the candidate. >> corey lewandowski, scars and all. thanks very much for joining us on this sunday. >> thank you. >> great to see you. next on the media buzz, piling it on. is there a hostile tone for the coverage? and later, political fires for tweeting trash about donald trump and his daughter. i discovered a woman my family tree, named marianne gaspard. i became curious where in africa she was from. so i took the ancestry dna test to find out more about my african roots. ancestry really helped me fill in a lot of details. when you're close to the people you love,

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it seems to be the week when they launched a war on the russian hackers to his secretary of state. we're back to the panels. we talk about the russian hackers. they kind of transformed it into a partisan debate about whether vladimir putin handled it and kellyanne conway said, look, it didn't fit with the election. agree with her but what about after? >> it's a huge story. we're never going to get to the bomb o it. however, getting to the bottom of the actually story and what they were doing and what i what they were up to is a story that's not going to be solved by a couple of anonymous sources. i'm sure we'll see a number of books about it. >> let's take a longer view of this whole debate about donald trump and russia. he didn't make any secrets that he wanted to have a more

cooperative relationship with russia. do you think it's kind of wedded to a hard line approach and anything is portrayed as weak and naive toward? >> you can get whiplash. they didn't like they looked into putin's heart, during the obama administration, i remember there was a "time" magazine cover right at the beginning that said can we be frenlsd. it was a picture of obama with the russian bear four years ago. the media made so much fun of him. "the new york times" made so much fun of him. now he clearly has a strategy of cozying up to russia. and now srtly the most dangerous threat in the world. it's just this back and forth that is hard to track, if they're really carrying about it or if it's another way to bludgeon donald trump. >> i'm getting vertigo just

listening to you, julie. if russia or some other entity was hacking why did they wait so long to act? "the new york times" said this was false because the administration didn't do anything, said it didn't want to appear partisan but did speak as late as october, as early as october about russian hackers tried to hurt the democrats. >> >> so i will say this. i think you're absolutely right. there were those who scoffed at mitt romney. they rightly said that russia was a geopolitical threat. i do believe they went through it. we can't have it back. the reality is every president comes in. george bush did it. barack obama did it. they're trying to cozy up to a man to whom you cannot cozy up.

this is like trying to date a guy who does not want to date you no matter how much you cozy up. say this with russia. what donald trump needs to understand is there are 17 tell nation news agencies in agreement that the russians hacked dnc and john podesta. they have to understand unless he gets in line with what we need to do to punish vladimir putin for doing this or he's going to be next. >> there is broad bipartisan consensus on this. everyone knows that russia meddled in the election. the other is about the election. they're treating it so emotionally and so erratically. >> it's not irrational. >> the information that was

revealed is all true. >> let me jump in. i'm still considering julie saying putin is undateable. >> no, no. he would find us undateable. >> news organizations says josh earnest in the u.s. essentially became arms of russian intelligence. i always felt uncomfortable. how do you not do it when you have all this internal stuff? >> i actually think it's very dangerous to rely on wikileaks for all sorts of information. again, it's weird but it only became a concern this psych >> and the leaks make this murky as i was saying to you. nbc reports that the u.s. had info, no names attached, that putin was involved in the hacking of dnc and related entities. congressman peter king the republican said to have it appear in the "washington post" and new york times, they have concluded this. who? who in the cia?

we don't know. >> president obama in his friday news conference almost said as much. we're hearing that story from president obama. >> so you think that settles it? >> so we think that makes it pretty clear. the last one and says nothing happens in russia without putin. it doesn't matter. >> let me see if i can get you both in on this. rex tillerson, look, he's an oil guy with no public experience. putin friend or putin stooge. fair, unfair, or do you disagree? >> listen. rex tillerson has a huge advantage if they impiece sanctions on russia. >> what if he acted -- >> you know what? he needs to tell us now. >> there are russian ties with a lot of -- with a lot of trump

officials and that's interesting. in part i would think it would be good for the media to think about what the strategy is and whether he has a game plain here and cover it just more calmly. >> reminding myself that he's not president yet. eric, molly, and julie. great to see you all. after the break, steve hayes and coming the president he never wanted to win. the wee

new editor with bill critical stepping down after founding the magazine, steve hayes is taking over the top job. i sat down with him here in studio one. >> steve hayes, welcome. >> thanks. >> how do you see -- and

[ inaudible ] was never trump. >> and bill was not the only one who was never trump. and the rule the weekly standard won't change, we've never been a mouth piece for the republican party, we have an independent conservative voice and we think we are tough on republicans and tough on the bush administration and tough on democrats and tough on donald trump. >> and conservative magazine and republican president, even if it isn't the president you wanted doesn't mean you will go easier? >> not at all. we're not on a team. we never thought we were on a team. we don't wear red or through and we are conservative and we are a conservative journal of opinion. but we want donald trump to succeed in the way we want any american president to succeed. it is important for the country and this is a critical time. we would like him to do well. when he does things that are smart and deserve praise, he will get that praise and when he doesn't, we are not cheering him

along and we'll be challenging him. >> a lot of the action is online and some of the new conservative sites getting distinction, who could you distinguish yourself. >> to continue to do the things we've done and do them better if it is possible. we believe excellence breeds excellence and one of the things i'm grateful for and agreed to take the now position is we have a commitment from our owner and his ceo at clarity media group brian mckinnon, we're going to be imperative in other spaces and the emphasis is on the print magazine and that is not going away. they are willing to resource us. and in some ways, what we're going to do or try to do is cut against the trend in journalism. you read about layoffs all over the place and cutbacks. we're not headed in that direction and they are as interested as ever in making sure that we have the resources and the tools to just do really

good journalism and that is the charge they've given me. i take them seriously at it and that is what we'll try to do. >> and in that vain, steve, you've been a prolific reporter and writer and you wrestled with how much you have to give up now that you are running the show at the standard. >> i didn't have many reservations as i thought about taking this job. i greatly respect the owners and i've learned a ton from bill crystal. it is an honor to ses seed him. and i'm a reporter and i got into this because i like to report. i'm going to try to do this job and continue reporting and writing at close to the pace that i have over the past several years. i don't know that i could keep it up. but that is the goal going in. >> sleep is overrated. >> exactly. >> newt gingrich the other day talked about some media becoming anti-trump propaganda and he said the same idiot faz failed to understand that trump will win the nomination are now commenting on the trump cabinet. your thoughts.

>> i mean, being one of those idiots, i didn't think he would win the nomination or the election but i don't think that invalidates the things i say about his cabinet. whether i'm praising them, which i have and raising questions. >> congratulations and thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks. >> still to come, the reporter who tweeted something unspeakable about donald trump. . here you go. you wouldn't put up with part of a pizza. um. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? you want the whole thing? yes, yes! live whole. not part. aleve.

♪ everything your family touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. time for another case of trump trauma in the media and this is a revolting one. a paid contributor at politico was fired offer this disgusting tweet that president-elect and ivanka. either ivanka is blanking his daughter -- excuse me, either trump is blanking hi daughter or he's shirking nepotism laws.

we understand how absolutely infuriating it is to have incidents like this to tarnish politico. the magazine said he made a mistake and will adhere standards. and it took several tweets but they said it was a tasteless offensive tweet that i regret and have deleted. i'm truly and deeply sorry. okay. suggesting that the next president of the united states might be committing incest, yes, that is incredibly offensive and she's lucky to have a job. now she drew flack for a gq profile of melania that portrayed her as a trophy wife and made disclosure of a half brother she never met. maybe she doesn't like the travel. and we'll keep an eye on trump travel for you. i'm howard kurtz. thank you for joining us. we hope you like our facebook page. media buzz at fox news and let

you know what you think about the kellyanne conway and cory lewandowski interviews. i'm out of town and out of breath, we'll be back here next sunday. see you then. president-elect donald trump outlining a bold 2017 agenda. in front of tens of thousands of supporters in mobile, alabama. the city that ignited his campaign and set him on a path to winning the white house a little more than a year ago. welcome to a brand-new hour inside of "america's news headquarters," i'm arthel neville. >> and hello, everyone. and i'm eric shawn. mr. trump hitting on familiar themes during the rally. he took aim at a long list of detactors from the pundits who underestimated him and the media and offered a message of hope for the start of his term. >> this is truly an e