a gift. buy a copy now so you have it in time fof christmas. folks, get out there and do it. thanks for watching, everybody. good to have you tonight. i'm marcia mccallum. this is t"the kelly file." ♪ welcome to "hannity." members of the electoral clenl formally cast their votes to make donald trump the next president of the united states. i'm eric bolling in for sean hannity tonight. earlier today the electoral college put him over the threshold needed to become the next commander in chief. despite all of this, democrats are still trying to undermine the president-elect and refusing to accept the results. according to "politico" former president bill clinton took shots at president-elect trump

saying, one thing he does know is how to get angry, white men to vote for him. he also blamed the fbi for it. that's not all. john podesta is making headlines for refusing to say that the election was free and fair. watch this. do you believe this is a free and fair election? >> look, i think the russians clearly intervened in the election, and i think that the -- now we know that both the cia, the director of national intelligence, the fbi all agree that the russians intervened to help trump. >> you didn't answer the question. do you believe it was a free and fair election? >> well, i think it was -- i think it was distorted by the russian intervention, let's put it that way. >> now, can you imagine if the tables were turned and donald trump's campaign said the same thing? then you have disgraced interim dnc chair donna brazile who wikileaks exposed as having given debate and town hall questions to the clinton campaign. she is now taking the democrat's

russian hacking points talking points to a new low level. watch this. >> this was a very intrusive process. the president's party was hacked, not the democratic party, the president. he is a democrat. his party was hacked. the e-mails were weaponized. the release of stolen, hacked e-mails caused a lot of confusion, and of course it disrupted our daily campaign lives. >> donald trump used this information in ways to also sow division. i was very disappointed in his repeated usage of some of the stolen information. he used it as if he received daily talking points. as for president obama, he's still making excuses but appears to be finally admitting the main reason president-elect trump won is because he out worked hillary clinton on the campaign trail. watch this. >> oftentimes younger voters, minority voters, democratic

voters are clus cannertered on areas. >> and on the coast. >> and on the coast. as a consequence, you have a situation where there are not only entire states but also big chunks of states where if we're not showing up, if we're not in there making an argument, then we're gonna lose. and we can lose badly, and that's what happened in this election. >> joining us now with reaction is the author of the best-selling book "treason" former speaker of the house and fox news contributor, newt gingrich. mr. speaker, i want to get the election results and the electoral college in a second. but first i want to talk to you about what's been going on in europe. earlier today we saw the russian ambassador in turkey being assassinated on television, actually videotape. later on we hear the white house is now calling the berlin, germany truck that plowed into the christmas market a, quote,

terror attack, likely to be a terror attack. your thoughts, tell us what you see going on. >> well, clearly the man -- as i understand it, the man who killed the russian ambassador yelled allahu akbar and was an islamic extremist. that has to be an act of terrorism. almost certainly the truck in germany was another act of terrorism. it will be interesting the see if it was somebody who was a refugee, which will put chancellor merkel's government deeper in trouble as the german people are increasingly tired of criminal behavior from various refugees she has allowed into the country. this is part of the dangers of the world we live in. you may notice tourists were attacked in jordan, which is unusual. yesterday a group of tourists were attacked at a castle in

jordan, and were killed. we have no strategy capable of dealing with the problem. >> talk to us about the relevance of the russian ambassador being shot. we know what is going on, you know, this at least temporary truce or peace agreement that's supposed to be going on in syria. will it hold? what is the risk to the russian side of this? >> you know, look -- well, i mean one of the things that western liberals have refused to recognize is if the russians and the iranians are prepared to back assad, the dictatorship is going to survive. there's not enough force on the other side. so what you're seeing happen is slowly they're grinding down the opposition. the opposition, by the way, is not particularly nice people. i mean we're now learning in aleppo, for example, a lot of people were terrorized, they were told if they tried to leave they would be killed. this is by the so-called moderates. i think the turks are very upset and they don't quite know what

to do because they have isis and al qaeda directly south of them, and they have the kurds to their east, and they're under tremendous internal pressure now. >> but our syria policy is in shambles right now, mr. speaker. when you have the russians hardening now, i assume they're going to harden after their ambassador was killed. we're on the other side of this. we were saying, hey, assad must go. russians are saying assad must say. what does president-elect donald trump do? what is he stepping into? >> well, i think that this is why general flynn is going to matter as head of national security council, and i think it is why general mattis is going to matter and secretary of state is going to matter, because they're going to have to sit down and really think through a new strategy. now, with jim mattis and with general flynn you have people who were there, general kelly who will be at homeland security, they've all been there in combat. they have a good sense of the region and i suspect they will

be giving the president-elect some professional advice about what to do, but i think part of it has to come from a realization that we have -- unless we're prepared to really deeply invest, which i don't think we are, we have very limited options right now in dealing with syria. >> okay. we'll leave it there because i want to pivot back to some of the other news of the date. donald trump, president-elect donald trump has now gone over the 270 threshold, will now be the next president of the united states. we heard democrats out whining over the weekend, everyone's fault that she lost. specifically donna brazile, you heard her right there. this is someone that leaked questions about debates and town halls to hillary clinton. does she even -- should she even have a voice going forward in the political debate? >> well, i think clearly she -- cnn believed this and they fired her. i like donna personally, i have known her for many years. we have ties going back to tulane and to new orleans.

she is a wonderful human being, but she got caught up in something that really was to her disadvantage. i suspect she will not, you know, be there much longer as national committee chair. but the one that i think is far -- far more interesting is the campaign chairman who, remember, was in charge of a billion dollars, a billion dollars. had the incumbent president as his ally. had, you know, the national news media as his ally and they lost. he is looking for anybody they can blame in order to get out from under this, and it is almost comical to watch them look. i think the next phase will be it was martians, it was all done by martians and hillary would have won except for them. >> john podesta i guess you're talking about, and robby mook. >> right. >> they took a lot of the blame the night of the election. apparently reports were she got very angry with both of them. former president bill clinton said, donald trump what he knows

how to do is get angry white men to vote for him. your thoughts on that? >> well, first of all he also got a lot of white women to vote for him, a lot of other people to vote for him. i think he ran ahead of romney with the latinos, ran ahead of romney with african-americans, he ran ahead of romney with asians. the fact is, you know, he won the election, which is a pretty big starting point. imagine the problem you have if you're bill clinton. it is christmas week, your wife just lost, it was her second lost. she is going to spend the rest of her life being non-president clinton while you'll be president clinton. you will say almost anything to try to make her feel good, and i think that's what you're seeing. what is bill going to do? he's not going to get up and say, i don't know why but my wife just failed. he can't do that. think what christmas would be like. i give him a certain slack. i figure it is christmas week, bill. do what you can, i understand it. but none of the rest of us should take it seriously. >> you're being generous. i mean, it was that angry white

male comment -- >> come on, come on, it is christmas. >> as you point out, donald trump exceeded mitt romney in the hispanic vote, he exceeded mitt romney in the african-american vote as well. hillary clinton, what was the turning point, we have about 30 seconds or so, what was the turning point? why did she lose the election? >> she lost because she didn't have the energy and drive to go to pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. in the end donald trump out worked her. he was doing five and six big rallies a day. she is doing one small rally. that exchange rate in the age of social media, he is getting 20,000 or 30,000 people, all with smart phones, all sending stuff out on facebook. he was creating his own network. a typical trump rally had about the same number of contacts at msnbc. >> we're going to leave it there, mr. speaker. thank you. by the way, hillary clinton will have a lot of time to walk through the forest now. she can spend a lot of time

walking through the forest. leave it right there. thank you very much. coming up, a truck plows into people at a christmas market in berlin. the white house is calling it an apparent terrorist attack. dr. sebastian gorka reacts next. then later -- >> her current scandals and controversies will continue throughout her presidency and will make it virtually impossible for her to govern or lead our country. >> that was president-elect donald trump slamming hillary clinton on the campaign trail. democrats seemed to forget just how corrupt clinton is, when coming up with next excuses for why she lost. ""clinton cash" author post-will join us. later. >> michelle obama said yesterday that there's no hope. but i assume she was talking about the past, not the future. ♪ >> president-elect donald trump is responding to the first lady michelle obama's comments about americans losing hope after his

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assassination of russian's ambassador to turkey is also being called a terrorist attack. andrei karlov was gunned dot at an exhibit in ankara. the attacker said he wanted to make sure aleppo, syria would not be forgotten. he was later shot dead by police. i'm kelly wright. back to "hannity." >> this is fox news alert. the white house is calling the chilling scene at a german christmas market earlier today an apparent act of terror, and president-elect donald trump released a statement expressing his condolences for the victim while adding that radical islam must be eradicated. joining us with reaction is author of "defeating jihad" is dr. sebastian gorka. thank you for joining us. the attacks today, is it because of the season, because it is a christian holiday? >> remember, eric, that the san bernardino attack also happened around the christmas season.

in fact, malik and faruk killed 13, 14 of their fellow colleagues at the christmas party in the offices where they were employed. so christmas is the ultimate infidel target, if you will, and if it does turn out as likely seems to be the case that this was a jihadi attack, then we can expect more threats of this kind. so this is -- this is the reality of the world we live in. there is no front line like there was in world war i or world war ii. eric, the front line is when you leave your house in the morning or when you go to a christmas market in downtown berlin. >> dr. gorka, the state department issued warnings to americans overseas saying, hey, be ware of these markets, christian markets because they may be targets of terror. >> yes. i mean this is the sad reality. i often get requests from friends and even people on facebook saying, you know, i want to go on holiday to paris or to germany, what do you advise? it is very simple, the jihadis

have made it clear, al qaeda in their magazine inspire isis in their publication, dabiq, go to places where there are large amounts of infidels who cannot protect themselves. so anywhere that there's lots of people, tourist attractions, christmas markets, we saw it before in nice, this is the reality. where there are a lot of people who are unarmed, who are civilians who cannot look after themselves, that will be a seductive target. >> meaning that there's not a lot of defense, not a lot of barriers or armed guards at these. is it a whole new world for us? >> well, the fact is the dangerous reality, eric, is that isis has learned from the mistakes of al qaeda. al qaeda was, ironically, too successful on september 11th. they killed 3,000 people in 102 minutes. afterwards they were obsessed with weapons of mass

destructive, experimented with chemical weapons in afghanistan. you remember the video of the puppy being killed. they wanted to go bigger and bigger and bigger. isis understands this is just about guerilla warfare. they've said you don't need to build a bomb, you don't even need to get a gun. get in a truck, and literally they wrote, mow the infidel down like grass. that's what they did in nice and that's what it looked like they did today in berlin. >> yeah, almost the same looking type of truck. i think they call them a lorie where literally two people got in the truck and started mowing down. dr. gorka, there's no defense of this. i mean what do you do? do you just stay away from public square cincinnati. >> well, the first thing you do, and this is what i write in my book "defeating jihad" is you have to be tactically aware. every human being that walks the planet, every u.s. citizen, the way we walk around -- look at downtown centers of any suburb, and people are walking around staring at their iphone or their android. you know what?

then you are a target. you have to be aware of your surroundings, because the important thing is jihadis surveilled. they don't decide one morning, i'm going to attack the christmas market in berlin. they check it out. they videotape it. they collect intelligence like any operation, and we should be aware. if the neighbors in san bernardino had reported what they saw happening in that house, we potentially could have saved those people. so people need to, as the police say, your head should be in a swif el and you should be tactically aware every time you leave the house in the morning. >> president-elect donald trump issued a statement today and said our hearts and prayers are with the loved ones of the victims of the horrifying attack in berlin. he goes on to point the finger. he says isis and terrorists continue to slaughter people in places of worship. he is giving a warning to people overseas. >> absolutely. on january 20th there will be a new sheriff in town, and first thing i can predict if you

listen to his youngstown speech, if you read the book by his national security adviser, lieutenant general flynn, first thing to happen after the inauguration political correctness is out of the window. we will throw away the idea that you can't call a jihadi a jihadi. we will be honest. they are religiously motivated and one of the things they want to do is eradicate christians. look at areas that have been expunged of christian culture and they're trying to come back now to burnt houses and destroyed churches, that's the enemy. we are finally going to take them seriously come january 21st. >> dr. gorka, the horrific event that took place today was an assassination of a russian diplomat in turkey, 22-year-old gunman shoots and kills the russian ambassador in turkey. talk to us about the significance of that. >> yeah, this is a very, very lethal threat. so the reports we have already are that this young -- as you look at the video, which is a

shocking video which i'm sure we're going to have to live with for years going around the internet, this young, fit looking man in a dark suit and a tie, allegedly he was a police officer. so this is what we call "the insider" threat. this is somebody that is inside the security services, he is authorized to use force, he carries a weapon. he gets inside the perimeter, into the so-called sterile zone, and in the middle of an art gallery guns down an ambassador. that's one of the most pernicious threats we have to deal with, the people inside the wire, as we say. >> and then immediately after firing those shots he yells out allahu akbar several times and says -- and then he makes some reference to syria, you'll die -- i'm sorry, we'll die in syria, you'll die here. >> yes, absolutely. this is connected to the ongoing, what i like to call global jihadi movement. it is a young man who decided to go against the regime itself, the allies, if you will, the

people that are working in the theater and send a very clear message. he shouted allahu akbar, god is great or allah is greater multiple time. the other things that needs to be noted is he shot other people in the art gallery. he killed the ambassador but others were wounded as well today. >> thank you, dr. gorka. it is a very, very dangerous world. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> coming up next on "hannity." her current scandals and controversies will continue throughout her presidency and will make it virtually impossible for her to govern or lead our country. >> remember when president-elect donald trump was saying that on the campaign trail? democrats are ignoring those facts about hillary clinton as they complain about her election loss. "clinton cash" author peter schweizer joins us next. later. >> michelle obama said yesterday that there's no hope.

but i assume she was talking about the past, not the future. >> president-elect donald trump is reacting to first lady michelle obama's comments about americans lacking hope after his election win. charles hurt and judge jeanine pirro here later with reaction. that and more as "hannity" continues. ♪

♪ welcome back to "hannity." hillary clinton lost in november but many on the left just can't quite get over it. now, while liberals continue to whine and make up excuses, one main reason for clinton's devastating loss is her blatant corruption. you might remember then-candidate donald trump called her out on the campaign trail over and over again. watch this. >> the fbi has reopened its criminal investigation into hillary clinton. >> she shouldn't be allowed to

run. >> they're also conducting a second criminal investigation into hillary's illegal pay-for-play corruption at the state department. >> we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial. >> her current scandals and controversies will continue throughout her presidency and will make it virtually impossible for her to govern or lead our country. >> now, i don't think it is going to matter because she's not going to win, but -- >> joining me now to remind liberals just why hillary clinton lost the election is the author of "clinton cash" the untold story of how and why foreign governments and business helped make bill and hillary rich, mr. peter schweizer. let me start with this, how rich are bill and hillary clinton? >> well, they made about $250 million since they left the white house, which if you compare that to other ex presidents that's maybe eight

times what any other previous ex-president has made. they're very wealthy and they've taken in a lot more than anybody else has in their positions. >> okay. peter, that's amazing. first of all, that almost blows my mind, eight teams any former president. but is it corruption, cronyism, but the way, are either, all, both of these illegal? >> yes, i think there was a lot of illegal activity. look, i think if you were to give a sub title to this election it is that corruption has consequences. people don't like corruption. if you look at the surveys, the exit surveys, three out of four americans believed there was widespread corruption in washington d.c. when hillary clinton, whether it is the clinton foundation, whether it is bill's speaking fees, whether it is the e-mail scandal, when people hear about that repeatedly, it bothers them. the democrats don't seem to think it did bother people, but, look, far before the hacking took place, going back into

2015, some 70% of the american people did not trust hillary clinton to be honest and trustworthy. that has major consequences, particularly when independents vote. >> okay. let's talk a little bit about the money coming in and the money coming out. start with the money coming in. a lot of pay-to-play accusations. tell us about whether it is legal or illegal some of the activities that may be questionable. >> well, if you perform a favor for somebody in exchange for money, whether it is explicit or not, that is a crime. and whether that goes to a chair you control like the clinton foundation or ends up in your pocket, it is a crime. >> peter -- >> so if you look at something -- >> i'm sorry. a crime punishable by what? >> by going to jail. it is a violation. if you are a federal government employee, whether you're the president of the united states or someone else, to do a favor, an official government favor in exchange for somebody else. the notion of pay-to-play. now, proving that is not always easy, but you can prove it

sometimes, of course, if you have a videotaped confession or if you catch something on audio, the fbi is listening in. you could also though be charged, this happened to senator menendez of new jersey -- >> they use these shell corporations and brokers for money to go into these areas and it comes back to them. i guess is that enough -- i gles plausible deniability for them? >> absolutely it is plausible denyable. but if you look at the recent prosecutions, whether former governor of virginia, former goff of alabama who is in jail right now, senator menendez, in none of those cases was there an expolice i think quid pro quo. it was money flowed and favors given in return. the notion clintons didn't do anything illegal is incorrect. that's why you have five field offices of the fbi investigating the clinton foundation, and they've been doing it since last year. >> right. i have only about a minute left or so. that's the money coming in,

still questionable. i guess these fbi offices will continue to investigate. the money going out, are they abusing the way they're spending the money at the clinton foundation? >> oh, absolutely. you don't have to go any further than the internal evaluation that was done for them by simpson thatch, the law firm chelsea requested. in that review they asked clinton foundation employees to rate the effectiveness of the charity and the way it spent money on a scale from one to ten. clinton foundation employees on average gave it a four for effectiveness. some employees gave it a one. that internal review, by the way, eric, also said they found evidence of quid pro quo expectations between donors and the clintons. so it is a settled case that the clinton foundation was ineffective and that there was pay-to-play. you don't need to go anywhere else in that internal review. >> i want to stay on the outflow of funds from the foundation. someone has to pay for the travel, someone has to pay for the restaurant, someone has to pay for the security. should the clinton foundation be

playing for all of the clintons and their whole family structure to be living this lifestyle? >> no. what they do is they -- they sort of double bill. so bill clinton takes a trip to india and it may be business related, he may be giving a speech, but because he has a conversation with somebody there about the clinton foundation, the clinton foundation picks up the travel tab. no, it is not appropriate. the irs needs to look at the tax status and how they've spent money and the activities of the clinton foundation as well. that's a huge problem. they spent $50 million in travel over the course of five years, much of it paying for the luxurious travel of bill and hillary clinton. >> whou. we'll leave it right there. peter schweizer. thank you very much. coming up next on "hannity." >> michelle obama said yesterday that there's no hope. but i assume she was talking about the past, not the future. >> president-elect donald trump reacts to first lady michelle

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♪ p. lich from america's news headquarters i'm kelly wright. good evening. the number of dead rising in a holid holiday horror scene in germany. 12 people confirmed dead. many of those killed were crushed to death. at least 48 were injured and sent to hospitals.

german police are suspecting a terror attack and are working to find the person or persons responsible. the driver of the truck has been arrested. sources telling fox news no americans are believe to be among the victims. in arkansas police offering a $20,000 reward in the hunt for a killer of a three-year-old boy. the boy shot and killed during a road rage incident saturday while christmas shopping with his grandmother. police say the shooter was angry at the grandmother for taking too much time at a stop sign. i'm kelly wright. now back to "hannity." ♪ going back to "hannity," first lady michelle obama recently sat down for an interview with oprah winfrey and said americans have lost hope. watch this. your husband's administration, everything, the election was all about hope. do you think that this administration achieved that? >> yes.

i do because we feel the difference now. see, now we're feeling what not having hope feels like, you know. >> oh, now, now. anyway, during his final stop on his thank you tour this weekend president-elect donald trump responded this way. >> michelle obama said yesterday that there's no hope. but i assume she was talking about the past, not the future. i actually think she made that statement not meaning it the way it came out, i really do, because i met with president obama and michelle obama in the white house, my wife was there. she could not have been nicer. i honestly believe she meant that statement in a different way than it came out. joining us with reaction is fox newstributor charles hurt and the host of "justice" judge jeanine pirro. judge, you're fired up on this one. it is getting to you, right?

>> you know, the -- go ahead. >> now, i want to know, now there's no hope. all of a sudden ba recall is leaving office and there is no hope. >> hope rises and falls with michelle and barack obama. there's no longer any hope. you know, i thought when they hit low, that the obamas go high. here is the bottom line. when you've got people who are saying, when we leave office you guys don't have any hope, that is an outrage. the lack of hope is why donald trump won this election. the lack of hope is why outsider won an election, why 30,000 people on a cold night get together with their kids, wait in line to see donald trump. hope is when people at carrier get their jobs back because an o outsider, not the obamas, not the democratic party, make a decision they're going to elect someone that's going to do something for them. >> you know what, charlie, small businesses are showing signs of

hope. consumer confidence is going up. there's hope, hope in the economy, hope for the average american now. >> yeah, there's hope in all of the places outside of the white house gates obviously. you know, i think this is what happens when you spend eight years campaigning on some sort of empty promise, a slogan about hope, it loses all meaning. and what i find really sad about this at this juncture in history is that, you know, you had the obamas, they had a story that they told people, and it really was a very hopeful story and people believed in them, and they had this extraordinary moment, this extraordinary opportunity. had eight years to do it, two years with democrats in control of the congress, and they completely failed by any measure. for them to sit back and, you know, with a rear guard action of now everything is hopeless, it is a sad day. >> judge, didn't the first lady at one point say i'm finally proud to be an american. what did she mean by that? >> when her president was about to be nominated a candidate for

president, she was 44 years of age, and for a woman who is a lawyer, someone who was educated in this country to say for the first time i'm proud to be an american, and then when they leave the white house hope is gone for all of you because we're leaving, you know when hope was gone? hope was gone for men on a roof top in benghazi. hope was gone for the people at carrier when obama said to them, there's no way you're getting your jobs back. i mean if people look at what happened during the obama's reign in the white house, the racial divide, the hatred of law enforcement, the hatred of the military, all of that was destroyed during their eight years. shame on them for trying to convince america, who now is so strong behind trump, that they are the reason that, you know, we're gonna -- their going is the reason we're going to lose and we're a failure. >> what's the end game here, charlie? what's the play to say literally with 32 days before they leave the white house, hope is leaving

us again, what is it about? >> i think the obamas are going through the 12 stages of grief or denial or whatever where they're having to realize that the obama presidency was a complete failure for democrats. this wasn't just a one night loss, you know, last month. this was eight years of losses for the democratic party. the only democrat to win reelection was obama himself, and therefore he was able to say, look, i've been a success, this is -- you know, my presidency has been a victory. no, it wasn't. he destroyed his party in the process. and so instead of looking at the root causes of it all, they're just trying to spin and try to cast blame, try to get out, you know, everybody blaming them for it. >> judge, i think charlie is right. i believe there's five stages of grief. one of them is sadness, then there's also denial, and then there's anger. i'm not sure what stage are they in right now. >> i just remember barack obama saying, you know, he's going to

take it as a personal insult if they don't, you know, elect hillary clinton. i think they've been mad for a long time. you know, eric, when you think about it, to say that hope is gone for the american people is really a low blow. >> worst thing you can say. >> it is the worst thing you can say. >> i don't know. the worst thing you could say would be you're deployable, irredeemable. >> but it tells the majority -- make no mistake, donald trump ran to win the electoral college and that's what he d he didn't run to win the popular vote because it would have been a different race. and he ran to win and he won, and now they're saying, all of you losers, you know, you deserve to have no hope. >> you know how many stages of grief you can tell there are? it is however many excuses they've come up with for why she lost. >> good answer. >> voting booths, russians, alt-right. >> yeah, at the end of the day

when you count those, that's what it is. >> leave it right there. thank you very much. be sure to check out judge jeanine's facebook back. michelle obama's comments and coming up next right here on "hannity" -- >> we will build a great wall and we will stop illegal immigration for good. >> president-elect donald trump is promising to build a wall, as a new report from the border patrol reveals over 47,000 illegal immigrants were apprehended just last month alone trying to enter the country. kansas secretary of state kris kobach joins us next. that and more as "hannity" continues. ♪ jack be nimble, jack be quick, jack knocked over a candlestick onto the shag carpeting... ...and his pants ignited into flames, causing him to stop, drop and roll. luckily jack recently had geico help him with renters insurance. because all his belongings went up in flames. jack got full replacement

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are terrorizing all of our citizens in cities and different places throughout the united states, and the message is that your days are numbered. we're getting you out. we will build a great wall and we will stop illegal immigration for good, and we have will doors in that wall and people will come into that wall, and they'll come through that wall by the ten also of thousands, but they're coming in legally. >> that was president-elect donald trump over the weekend at his final thank you tour, promising to build a border wall and stop illegal immigration. the president-elect's promises are needed more than ever because according to a new report, illegal immigration continues to increase. in november a total of 47,214 individuals were apprehended on our southwest border. that was november alone, which is higher than previous months. joining me now is kansas

secretary of state who has been meeting with president-elect trump, mr. kris kobach. i look at these numbers, 46,000 in october, 39,000 in september. so 39, 46, 47,200. what is going on? >> you know, this is a really interesting phenomenon, and it is something new because we've never in our history had a president-elect coming into office promising to increase enforcement levels and to build a wall. so it is interesting what happens is that the alien smuggling networks and illegal aliens themselves will react to what is happening in the american political scene, and it appears -- we don't know for certain, but it appears many are saying, look, i'm trying to get in before the wall is built and i'm going to try to get embedded in the community now before they start ramping up enforcement under a trump administration. but it shows they are taking seriously president trump's promise to restore the rule of law, and he is going to do that. >> kris, some of the things that

strike me with an open border as we have -- and the swiss cheese border they call it, terrorism is a concern. >> yes. >> sovereignty is a concern, drug trafficking is a concern, human trafficking is a concern. can we stop most of these, all of these, any of these? >> you know, we can dramatically reduce them and in some cases in some part of the border we can bring them to a complete halt. i say that because in the sector down by san diego, there's a 30 mile section with a double wall that is the creme de la creme of border crossing, it is down to zero crossing there. in some cases we can stop it completely. one things you mentioned is when you have alien smuggling, usually the coyotes will have the vehicles stuffed with drugs as well. if we stop the alien smuggling

we will reduce the drug smuggling which is good for america. >> general john kelly is donald trump's choice to lead department of homeland security. what are the plans? what does he want to do. >> i think he has shown a keen interest in the terrorism that exists south of our border in some parts of central and south america. so that awareness of a very real terrorism threat on our southern border is going to be very important. i think, you know, having spoken with him and having spoken with the president-elect, i think that you're going to see a real foekis focus on securing americans from illegal criminals that are taking jobs and smuggling, but from terrorists. we have been aware of terrorists coming across our southern border and it is easy for them to do right now, but under a trump administration it will change. >> have we been lucky we have caught a lot of the people that came across the border, as you

point out? isis has said, use the u.s.'s southern border as a method of getting in. have we been lucky it hasn't been worse? >> i guess so. you could say that, but, you know, it has been quite bad. there have been a number of terrorists we have caught, and i think anyone who is familiar with the southern border knows for every individual we catch there's probably at least three or four that we don't catch. so i can only imagine the number of terrorists who have already successfully entered over the southern border. you know, another area where terrorists have been abusing the system is the refugee program. since the early '90s there have been 18 major terrorists who fraudulently used our refugee program to get into this country, including some very big names and master minds of the 1993 attack on the world trade center, for example. so the blind sheik another example. we have been, i guess you could say, lucky. bear in mind i don't want to say we're that lucky because there are certainly a significant number of terrorists who have

abused our immigration system and are here. >> look, according to custom and border protection, in 2016 -- i'm talking just this year, 408,,000 vilindividuals have be apprehended, and that's up. are people trying to get across the border before president-elect trump is sworn into office? >> i think they're taking very seriously the promise of mr. trump to build a wall. once that wall is built it is going to be a lot harder to get across the border. i think there is undoubtedly an uptick from that. now, there may be other things involved as well. it is interesting when you look at the flow of people across the southern border, whenever president obama or some people in the senate would make a promise of an amnesty, that would cause a surge because aliens would be trying to come in illegally to claim the amnesty once they got here. so there's definitely a very quick response south of the

border whenever we change anything in our policies or we indicate there may be a change coming soon. >> i've got 20 seconds or so, kris. there will be a wall, not a fence but a wall? >> absolutely. you know, you may have in different -- there will be a physical barrier, let's put it this way, and the nature of the barrier will depend on the terrain. if you have steep, hilly country it might be different than you have in the flatter areas around san diego. but there will be a barrier on the southern border, no question about it. >> kris kobach, thank you very much. good stuff. coming up, tonight's question of the day is next. don't go anywhere. stick around. ♪ i'tststststs the holidays should bring joy. so why are you still putting up with

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think. unfortunately, that's all we have time for. i'll be filling in for sean all week. don't forget to tune in for ""the five" all week. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. afraid. ♪ >> welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we begin with a fox news alert. electoral college voting is underway. 538 electors gathered in the their respective state capitols to cast their votes for president as per the constitution. just a short time ago donald trump surpassed the needed 270 votes to secure the white house. it is now official. even at this late hour, some are desperately trying to invalidate the results of november's election and find a way to elect someone other than donald trump. dana has been a leader in this effort. the founder of the official electoral college petition to stop donald trump and he helped organize today's protest. he joins us now. daniel, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> so here's the