by a youtube user. i think it's a spoon. >> very spoonlike, we don't know. >> maybe matt damon left it when they were shooting the martian. >> happening now starts right now. >> bye. jon: and international manhunt intensifies for the prime suspect of the deadly berlin terror attack with his brother now urging him to surrender at the christmas market that became the scene of the bloody rampage reopens today. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. jenna: we will see if that brings any development. hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. links the tanasian suspect on deadly attack. the fingerprints were found on the truck that slammed into crowds at the market killing 12 people. germany deemed armiri potential

threat and trying to deport him. obviously sun -- unsuccessfully. greg. >> we are at the reopened christmas market in berlin, the scene of the terror, we will show you around in a moment. first the latest on the investigation. the search for the tanisian is intent -- intensifying. there were raids overnight but local media saying that authorities are not close. the suspect very much on the german radar for the past year or so. he was arrested and monitoring for offering islamic figures to commit an attack within germany and there were report that is he was on the us radar too. on the no-fly terror list and monitoring and checking out bomb-making websites and also communicating with terror figures. again, back here at the market,

jenna, let's just show you a little bit at the scene. i will step away. monday night where a truck barreled 45 miles an hour, smashing into people, smashing them into stalls about a hundred feet where we are right now. now as you see it is reopened, crowded, more security, though, take a listen to the people we talked to. >> we will survive and also with our values we will survive. >> it's so terrible what happened. >> life goes on here. >> life goes on her. berlin, berlin lives on. >> jenna, we have learned today that there were two americans hurt in the attack and the latest information we are getting as one of those americans is still hospitalized and all reported in the hospital

are in serious condition. back to you. jenna, greg, thank you. jon: as hunting intensifies. president-elect trump to campaign pledge to establish registry of muslim and temporary ban on muslim immigrants. >> rethink or evaluate a registry. >> you know my plans all along. i have proven to be right. >> have you talk today president obama at all, sir? >> i have not. a few days ago but not recently, not since. >> your comments about the attack in berlin being against christians, do you think that this -- >> say again, what?

>> being an attack against christians. i believe you said it. so i'm wondering how this might affect -- >> attack on humanity, that's what it is. it's an attack on humanity and it's got to be stopped. jon: let's talk about with bob, editor in chief at the hill, a lot of reporters are pulling out their hair trying to figure out exactly what donald trump's policy on muslims is, is there going to be a ban, is there going to be a registration, where are we? >> that's a great question, jon. we don't know. certainly in the republican primary there was a complete ban on muslims and that's something that donald trump clearly said. later his campaign walked that back a little bit and said, well, it's going to be a ban for terrorist or alleged terrorists from countries that have high terrorism rates. but we don't know the details of which countries they are, what

kind of rates that would be and these are things that, i think, the trump transition and certainly donald trump next year are going to have clearer. at the same time throughout the campaign and it was a successful campaign, he said he does not want to spell out hisis is plan in detail because that would be telling the enemy what he's going to do. so i think he's going to be relying on key advisers like "mad dog" mattis. jon: in the meantime angela merkel who essentially threw open the door to welcome millions of immigrants, she's being criticized in the country for what has gone on. among the people germany brought in to provide them safety and security and everything else, for instance, this guy anis turns on them and bite it is

hand that has literally fed him. >> yeah, it shows price for loose immigration policy and that's something donald trump talked about. merkel faces national election in 2017. she was definitely feeling the pressure right now on her policies on that. and that is something that when trump comes in to office that we don't know exactly what he's going to do on immigration policies, on the ban, he certainly says it's going to be a lot tougher than it is now. jon: take us forward to inauguration day. what do you expect to hear from the man who is now president elect? >> i think donald trump can talk about a lot about this in the inauguration speech. two key conditions why he was selected was because of isis and the economy, now, with these attacks around christmas time and he knows what's going to happen between now and january 20th, i think this is going to be a key focus of his address and certainly when he deals with

congress next year, this is something that is going to be a focal point of his administration because that's something that he said he promised and it was received well in the republican primary and later in the general election. jon: he calls it radical islam, islamic terrorism. by naming it, is he in fact, helping us identify the enemy? >> i think he is and i think the obama administration has been defensive on this and hillary clinton during the election campaign, and this was what donald trump said, we are going to be stronger and attack opponents as being weak specially when terminology wouldn't be used. now, democrats -- words don't matter, actions matter, but also when politicians words do matter and when people are afraid of going to certain christmas markets or going to a mall, that

plays into the psyche of this. however, at the same time, once again, we don't know what the plan that donald trump is going to pursue on isis and i do think he's going to fill in some of those holes come january. he basically said he's going to wipe out isis from the face of the earth but we don't know as you say how he's going to do that and any guesses or ideas. >> it's almost impossible to prevent attack specially lone-wolf attacks. you can't have a plan to solve this issue any time. it's a matter --

jon: i was about to say. they are clearly not the jv team . >> thank you. jenna: trump transition team with several new appointments, this morning naming campaign manager kellyanne conway, peter ducey in palm beach, florida on what that means, peter. peter: we are learning how the president-elect trump plans to combat islamic terror from the newly appointed council to the president kellyanne conway. >> look at the statistics. he's trying to get back where we were, the vacuum created by the table wave of iraq and also just

having a president with the united states saying we will work with allies and work with people we actually don't work with if it means coming together to defeat radical islam. >> showing the current administration how they should handle upcoming votes on the united nations on a resolution that would force israel to start building settlements and palestinians says it's there. mr. trump agrees with netanyahu. on a conference call that wrapped up, we know that the president elect for the second day in a row will receive presidential intelligence briefing which is notable

because a few weeks ago donald trump told chris wallace he doesn't always think that he needs to get that briefing every day because he says the information in it gets repetitive, the president elect says he will get a briefing when he needs one at the advice of national security team that he's in touch with once or twice a case. that appears to be the case right now. jenna. jenna: peter, thank you. jon: new legal action in one of the mass murderers of the 20th century. california supreme court weighs in on the case of a charles manson follower. plus, the prime suspect in the berlin terror attack, tanasian refugee, igniting the fire storm over germany liberal immigration policies. we will take an in-depth look at the political backlash there next.

jon: right now new infoi -- info in crime. truck was found on tuesday. to california now where jurors recommended a death sentence for steven gordon, sex offender convicted of kidnapping and murdering children. many happened while wearing gps device for prior offenses.

charles manson follower, a hearing in the parole case after jerry brown overturned parole board. she was sentenced to life in prisons back in 1969. jenna: breaking now in the investigation in the deadly berlin terror attack and the international manhunt for the tanasian suspect. berlin christmas market attack and the likely political backlash where he addressed angela merkel's open-door immigration policies writing this. good intentions are not in and of itself sufficient in politics specially in parilis times such as this. we should know, james, your work actually took you to europe for many years, tell us about that. >> i used to live in berlin. they are integral part of german

culture. they are very symbolic and i think that's why they were attack. for months people had been quietly suspecting and murmors that it would be the perfect target. jenna: that's so chilling to hear. >> yeah. jenna: did anything get done in light of murmors to protect the people? >> they might have been heightened security. jenna: it's interesting and greg was speaking to a person that was walking through the market and shared report at the top of the show and that calls into what they were talking about in your piece, good intentions, good intentions for the value that is you want to represent as country and practicality of policies. jenna: what do you think that

teaches us. >> anybody understand motives behind policy last year given german history and conscious of that and the nazi period and they really wanted to be sort of global humanitarians and showing an example to the suffering people and chancellor merkel grew up under east germany under a communist regime. she really cherishes freedom and at the same time they underestimated the challenge that would be involved in welcoming over a million, you know, people from a completely different culture, most of them young men into their country. and so now we are seeing a real fierce debate over what the future of the policy would be. jenna: germany is a country of 80 million people, 80 million plus, a million refugees coming in. as we take a look at the end of this year, we have to take the story into context of what has happened over the past year, one of the big stories around the holiday, last year as you note in your piece was what happened in new year's eve in germany.

tell us whether or not changes were ever made? >> mass sex assault against women outside of train station, 2,000 women, 2,000 women were reporting sexual assaults by migrants and then a year later, we have this incident and so we are seeing now far-right in germany politically that has not happened since world war 24. we have seen in other countries, austria, germany had been able to avoid that. no party to the right of the christian democrats and now we are seeing this new party called alternative for germany and in the last three years they gone from 0 to 15%. jenna: as you're talking about germany and some political changes, there are some that used alt-right here at home.

part of america we have tied to immigrants. the american families that can trace their line intaj to ellis, island, for example. as we take what happened in germany, cover it extensively, how do you think that applies to us here at home, we have a new president coming in, potentially new policies, what does it teach us, what should we learn from it? >> we are a country of immigrants and assimilated immigrants better than most other places in the world, certainly europe. migration is a real important global topic but i actually think that americans have dealt with the issue much better. we don't have big sprawling ghettos filled with the muslim class. our muslim immigrants have integrated pretty well, the same with hispanic immigrants, latin america. jenna: you have a new book coming out.

tell us a little bit about that because you're taking a look at europe in general, the health of europe and where do you see it heading? >> the end of europe, not the optimistic of titles, i try to be optimistic because europe should be the focus of foreign policy. after the cold war we thought we settled this, we won, let's move onto asia and middle east. you can tell the stories in the middle east, russia, ukraine, my grant issue, to islamic terrorism, sort of all nasty traditions that europeans have fought for for hundreds of years are really rearing back with ugly force and we have to confront. jenna: strong free europe is important for strong free america. >> absolutely. jenna: we look forward talking about that book. happy birthday. >> thank you. jenna: thank you very much, jon. jon jn we --

we will sing later. that number could rise as the fire continues to rage out of control. after months of protess and boycotts north carolina lawmakers met in a special section to repeal the so-called bathroom bill and they failed. live report next. >> this was our chance, this cannot be our last chance

jenna: massive fire forced evacuation of 600 people. authorities say the fire started in a restaurant kitchen and quickly spread 35-mile an hour winds. by evening at least 140

buildings were destroyed and that number could rise as the fire continues to spread. japanese military forces have been called in to help and two minor injuries. jon: new information about efforts to repeal the north carolina law that's become known as the bathroom bill. state lawmakers called into a special session yesterday failed to undo the legislation after a shaky bipartisan deal fell apart. international correspondent john roberts joins us live from atlanta, john. >> it was quite a day in north carolina, jon, big headline coming after special session is that all 16 democrats in the senate voted against repealing the bathroom bill. now, the reason they did that is because the republican sponsored bill, cooling off period of a number of months during which town in north carolina would be allowed to pass the antidiscrimination ordinance

that charlotte did back in february which prompted the passage of bathroom bill. republicans insisted on that provision fear if the bathroom bill was repealed that cities an towns across the state would put flurry of antidiscrimination bills and any attempt to supercede would die under the democratic governor and would lead to permanent ban on antidiscriminatory measures. roy cooper who lobbied didn't blame democrats for the defeat, instead he blamed republicans. >> today the legislature had a chance to do the right thing for north carolina and they failed. i am disappointed at republican legislative leaders, failed to live up to their promise to

fully repeal house bill 2. >> north carolina's pat mccrory lost and said give me a break. this was at least the third time the pressure from the left sabotaged bipartisan good-faith agreements for political purposes, where does this all leave the tar heel state, well, the ncaa for one is going to continue boycott of north carolina writing, quote, ncaa's decision to hold championships in north carolina, is unchanged. this is all going to end up in the united states supreme court sometime in the knee future. jon: arguing goes on, john roberts, thank you. jenna: russian president vladimir putin honoring embassador to turkey who was asas nayed this week, plus senators chuck schumer and john mccain putting aside to call investigation into allegations into russian hacking during the

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jenna: this crossed our desk and we we wanted to bring it to you because it might be a story you hear more about later on today. this is from reporting by tmz, initial reports that ivanka trump, the daughter of president-elect trump was getting on a jet blue flight earlier this morning at jfk airport and apparently as she was on the plane with her husband and her three children that a passenger became out of control. that's the description on tmz verbally deraiding at her and

the passenger was removed from the flight and that's where things stand. to as we get more information, we will bring it to you, but in light of some of the other viral stories we have seen over the last few days about disruptions on flights, this was one we thought worth mentioning as we get more information, we will let you know, jon. jon: the family of a new york city woman killed while jogging in massachusetts speaks out for the first time, what they are doing to honor the memory of vanessa. isis claiming one of its fighters carried out the berlin christmas market attack, how that terror group can infiltrate so many western nations. we will talk on the author of the book on the rise of isis. death toll rises in explosion in méxico city. what investigators are looking into as a possible cause.

jenna: diplomats of family members gathering in moscow today paying respects to embassador in turkey who was assassinated by off-duty police officer this week in ankara with vladimir putin and other top officials taking part in the service. amy kellogg is live with the very latest, amy. >> putin said we must find out who directed the killer's hands, he, of course, has heard claims of responsibility by a syrian rebel groups which came out yesterday, but still will be waiting for the findings of a joint russian-turkish investigation. in the meantime, the russians take this symbolism of this extremely seriously. the assassination of an embassador is an attack on the state, putin was supposed to give annual press conference today, that's been put off until tomorrow so that he could pay respects to embassador andrey karlov. a state funeral.

towering ca they had ral that joseph stalin had destroyed. russia's -- >> was awarded the title of hero of russia. we prepared events and proposals to perpetuate the memory of andrey. the army of conquest put responsibility of the murder carried at the hands of this man , but turkey says that's all smoking mirrors and this man who was responsible -- is responsible and that aton was one of the disciples, the goal to bring down turkey, turkey's

president blamed gulan for the military coupe. jenna. jenna: amy, thank you. jon: senator john mccain is joining forces with top democrat chuck schumer this week leading a push for select committee to investigate russian hacking in the presidential election. >> the president has no strategy and no policy as to what to do about these various cyber-attacks that have possibly disrupted an american election. we need a select committee, we need to get to the bottom of this and we need to find out exactly what was done and what the implications of the attacks were specially if they had an effect in the election. there was no doubt it was

interfere and no doubt of cyber-attacks. question is how much and what damage and what should the united states of america do and so far, we have been totally paralyzed. jon: let's discuss it. former deputy campaign manager for martin o'malley. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. jon: liz, it's pretty unusual that a liberal like chuck schumer gets together with john mccain for legislation? >> it's a christmas miracle, i guess. it highlights the importance of this issue that this wasn't just an attack on democrats, it was on attack on our democracy and making it bipartisan and having a john mccain and chuck schumer take the lead on it makes it look like less of a partisan issue not just an effort to

delegitimize trump's presidency. as marco rubio said during the election, the russians could be attacks democrats today, but tomorrow they could be turning their fire on the republicans. jon: has it been a partisan issue, kristin. some have suggested that it was donald trump's fault? >> this has become a partisan issue because the question is not just did russia have a hand in doing things, hacking into the dnc, et cetera, but there's the question did russia hack the election, did donald trump win not have legitimacy because of the actions, that's when we see things diverge in a partisan way which is why you have seen since election day attitude toward vladimir putin become polarized where you have only about a third but still higher than used to be, a third of republicans say they have a favorable view of vladimir putin. so while the debate about whether or not putin had a material impact on the results of the election, it's something

much viewed through partisan lens. the question that we need to do something more about cybersecurity and the current administration hasn't done enough, less partisan and more bipartisan consensus. jon: let's talk about it from your point of view as democratic representative on this panel. do you think that vladimir putin affected the election? >> no, i don't. and i know that i break with some in my party on that. i think that there's no doubt that he tried to impact the election but i don't think he ultimately did. the depths of donald trump's victory was such that any one factor including, you know, intrusion from the russians could have impacted that and it undermines the importance of this issue and undermierns the importance of investigating cybersecurity by breaking partnership to it. we can't lay it all at the feet of vladimir putin.

jon: all right, we will see where this investigation goes with schumer and mccain both on board. it's going to get interesting. i want to talk to you two about obamacare, the enrollment figures hitting a new record, the administration reports 6.4 million people signed up for subsidized private coverage through healthcare.gov as of wednesday despite criticism of rising premiums and insurers and president-elect trump's vow to repeal obamacare. is obamacare alive and well and is it here to stay? >> part of the reason that you're seeing people signing up is they understand that this president and the republican congress have taken a position that the affordable care act is going to be done away and replaced with something else as soon as they have the ability to do so. which is heard you heard reports the day after election day of, for instance, lots of women looking into long-acting contra kepting methods that are currently covered in obamacare

plan and they worry a quick change of regulation could mean they are no longer covered. we are seeing instances of people making healthcare choices based on the assumption that they think that the affordable care act will be going away. so i don't necessarily see the spiking numbers as a sign that the law is alive and well but rather that a lot of people realize that the political winds have shifted and republicans now control multiple levers of government that they can use to undo aca and people who like the law are really trying to make sure that they can get as much as they can before it comes under threat. jon: liz, case of people trying to take advantage while they can? >> i think it is. it's a promising sign for obamacare and highlight it is parels ahead for republicans. if they try to repeal obamacare, they had six years to come up with a replacement plan and they haven't. it's one thing to cast dozens and dozens meaningly his votes

to repeal it, they would have -- pay severe political price for doing that. that's why you see even republican governors like susana martínez from new mexico yesterday coming out and saying that a repeal of obama could do considerable harm to the states and the people that are insured through medicaid, for instance. so republicans are going to have to deal with the political realities here and nobody is talking about yanking from under people. jon: year's long. >> certainly, there's big questions about what the sequencing would look like. republican leaders have promised we are going to repeal and replace obamacare, there's an expectation on the part of republican supporters that this is something that needs to happen. but the question is how is still

unresolved. is there going to be a time where the house passes and the senate passes something that would repeal the law but without immediate replacement. does it need to be done comprehensively. there's a question and because of the way obamacare was passed into law through a process called reconciliation, it's easier to repeal it than replace it procedurally. republicans in congress have a big debate on their hands about how do you move forward with the whole process because the procedural complications make the sequencing complicated for them. jon: bipartisanship can be breaking all over. wouldn't that be something. we will see. all right, thanks very much both of you. liz smith and kristin. jenna: story that offers insight of minds of isis recruiters and unprecedented of information about the workings of this

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carry out attacks like this. our next guest calling definitive guy in understanding isis in generation of terrorist because of incredible access he got. way of the strangers encounters with the islamic state and he joins us now live and there's so many stories to get you and your work took you all over the world and you were able to come face to face with supporters of isis, first of all, how were you able to do that? >> first of all, just by asking. a lot of the people are yakkers, they really want to get the word out about what they believe. i asked him, what do you think, what do you believe, what is isis all about, why do you -- why are you so crazy in some cases, i asked them directly because they we wanted to answer that question. jenna: how did they answer it? >> we have a vision of the world. it is the only correct interpretation of islam. it is brutal. it is intolerant, but it does follow the way that the profit mohamed told us to live and his immediate successors lived themselves.

so i would say, most muslims don't view the religion this way but they would cite chapter and verse, they would give me a sense of the intellectual world that they lived in that they led to take on the terrible beliefs. jenna: so many questions about your journey as a journalist, but one in particular, it brought you to texas, plano, texas, a family there and you learned about a texan man who is now risen through the ranks of isis and a lot of the viewers don't know about, tell us his name, his story. >> until recently nobody has known about the story, john jordan, convert of christianity. 33 year's old, texas bjorn and risen to really the highest ranks within isis. he's an incredible figure. over the course about 15 years he has gone from being a soft around the edges muslim convert to a hard-core jihadist and as of a couple of years ago he made it to the islamic state and he's

one of the chief propagandist for the group. jenna: you go to his home which looks like any american home, his father went to west point. there seems to be a loving family, not all the children went this direction and so that's one of the questions we ask when you hear the stories. how did this happen to him, how did this happen to him, choose the path? >> i was looking for what went wrong. he's from a very distinguished american family with tradition of military service, his father was colonel in the u.s. air force and grandfather wounded twice in the second world war. family was wealthy and at some point along the way he found something missing in his life and i hate to put it this way, the kid is an idealist, it's just the ideals that he found turned out to be very deeply evil ones and what i try to do is find out exactly those are and figure out how over the course of those 15 years he hold

them with vigor. >> do you believe it's the current -- >> very time of figure. born in new mexico of yes, yemee . also spreading the word in english, in idium that people understand from my country and yours, what isis is all about . he's telling people what to think. >> jenna: incredible story. if you could, and this is difficult to bottom line it for us, how do we solve this problem, we don't want terrorists come to attack us or anywhere in the world, as you look at dissecting it, what do you think the solution is? >> for some of the people the solution is going to be military, the only way unconvinced of terrorist ways is being killed.

but also what i found that they are a part of a whole culture, a culture that extends beyond syria and iraq to some cultures within the united states, australia, japan, norway and we have to understand that this is an intellectual world that they live in that can want be destroyed entirely by military strikes. they think it's cool, they think it's an ideal, paradise, utopia and see how people comb to that conclusion and figure out the ways to put them on certain off ramps from that kind of fatal decision that they might eventually make to go to syria and fight there. jenna: we look forward talking to you. thank you so much. >> thank you. jon: battle to close mobile homes in a pricey california neighborhood. what it means for propertye

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the story we have been following. live in palo alto in california, claudia. >> the owner of this mobile home park wanted to close this and maybe build condos or apartments. that's not sitting well with city officials that are keeping affordable housing right where it is. >> the latest chapter of the low rent of mobile home, owners refuse, acquire it through eminent domain. >> eminent domain is actually elegant solution, it acknowledges the owners right to just compensation, in the public purchases establishment to use for public purpose. >> the public purpose is the welfare of hundreds of tenants that say they can't afford to move out. >> we have no where else to go. there's no way for 95% to live

in this county. >> allowing the park to close if owner paid tenant's relocation costs and in palo alto, costs are $8 million. lack of affordable housing in palo alto isn't he fault but he may have to pay even more to redevelop the property. lawyer calls that exportion and -- extortion. were it's one thing to take property for school, road, fire house, they are taking private property for benefit of other private individuals, that's flatly unconstitutional. >> the federal lawsuit is pending in a case that's being watched closely by property rights group and tenants advocates aligning. jenna. jenna: claudia, thank you, we will be right back with more happening now

jetblue flight where a passenger started harassing this woman, ivanka trump, the daughter of the president-elect. she was flying jetblue with her husband and three kids when a guy apparently unhappy with trump's election started screaming at her, things like your father is ruining the country. well, that guy was escorted off the jetblue plane. i might mention too -- the

decision to remove a customer from a flight is not taken lightly if the crew determines the customer is causing conflict, the customer will be asked to leave the plane. so he was booted, and all is well for now. we'll see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. harris: we begin with a fox news alert. an international manhunt is underway. german authorities searching for the man they believe drove a truck through a christmas market in berlin. twelve people died, many more were hurt. that suspect is 24-year-old anis amri of tunisia. he was seeking asylum and was already on the radar as a potential terrorist. and now evidence his fingerprints have been found on the door of the big rig used in that massacre. this is outnumbered, here today meg an mccabe, kennedy -- meghan mccain, july january