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back, send your cruelest @tuckercarlson or email us at tuckercarlsontonight@foxnews.com . that's it for tonight. tune in every night, this shown wow . >> special addition of "the o'reilly factor" is on tonight. our big interviews, big issue special. i will compare my iq with anybody, okay. donald trump will be the next president of united states after a world so mike whirlwind election. >> now, it is time for america to divide the roots of division. >> oliver stone and i debated national security. >> they have to have some, a blanket of ability to tap. >> they do have an invasive ability beyond all measure
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supported by a technological machine that is incredible. >> award-winning director adam mckay rivas of the great decision of 2008 and his movie "the big short." >> we look at this issue of something that goes beyond right or left wing. >> looking back at the murder of martha moxley all these years later, robert f kennedy, jr., lays out some interesting revelations that could shed a different light on his cousin. >> he had a case of post-traumatic stress. >> caution, you are about to enter this b-17. "factor" begins now. ♪ >> hi, i am bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. at the special edition of "factor." the year's presidential election has been one of the most momentous and contentious, that rhymes, and american history. it all began back in june, 2015. when then presidential hopeful donald trump appeared with me on "factor" right after his big announcement that he intended to
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seek a nomination for president of the united states. well, since then, we have spoken dozens of times with mr. trump over the past 18 months, discussing what he would do as president and his take on the twists and turns of the presidential race. take a look. >> obamacare. not doing well, i think any measure, any fair-minded person would say, a lot of americans are getting hurt, have to pay more for their premiums, floor deductibles, they are getting their choices of doctors. it doesn't seem that the democratic base, which wanted obamacare so much, cares. they don't seem to care, you don't see an outrage building on the left about obamacare. i'm wondering if you know why that is. >> i think they care. i think people care. i think people are getting wiped out. the numbers they gave, 24, 25% increase, i don't believe that. i think the minimum is going to be 40% and 50%. i think the people are going to care. >> can you tell me simply, you know i am a simple man and have
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trouble grasping complicated situations, you say, you are going to revoke and replace obamacare. i know you want to have insurance companies compete nationwide, no boundaries, that would drive premiums down. what else? are you going to subsidize 30 million people who can't afford assurance? are you going to help them out? >> i like the concept of health care's savings account, i think it is great. you must get rid of the boundaries between the states so we have competition because right now, you'll have competition -- >> what about the insurance companies? one of the reasons the obamacare thing is going through the roof is because there are 30 million americans having trouble doing anything, they can't work come they don't work, whatever, and outcome of the obama administration is giving them free health care. will you continue that? >> the way i view it, trickle groups. the people that can afford it, it will be much lower, much better, much lower price, and really phenomenal, they will be tremendous competition. by the way, there will be plans that you are not talking about right now because the competition will make great
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plans. much lower price of come , much better. you will walk medicaid to the states and people take care of the people that can knock take care of themselves. >> the states get the responsibility to do that. >> absolutely. >> when you see how you're being treated, not only by the national press, but say "saturday night live," alec baldwin is doing you. do you feel that it is a coordinated, there is no doubt that most of the press, i said this from the very beginning, you are a member, i told you, the day you announce that you were going to get hammered, personally, not just because of your policies, but because they don't like you, they don't think you are worthy for this job, all of that. >> they don't like what i stand for. >> it stopped, too, it is more you. >> i will compare my iq with anybody, okay, excuse me -- >> it wasn't as personal as
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against you. >> it is personal against you. >> i'm very proud to say, this is the all-time pylon and history, and in terms of -- >> my question, do you believe it is coordinated? >> i do think so. before i ran, used to get great press. my wife said the other day, she said, he used to never get a bad story. i got somebody got very few. now, i have, i can be in the front page of "the new york times" in three different stories in every one of them is a hit job. you understand that. it is a very unfair price. i knew it would be bad, i didn't know it would be this bad. i said, will i get hit, i stand for strong borders, we have to strengthen our country, we wont have a country without borders, people are pouring across. >> i don't know if anybody can bring an end to individual acts of violence, you know, i don't think it is possible, am i wrong? >> one thing you have to do is degrade. one thing that is happening, people are going around and they feel emboldened and they feel
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wonderful and all of these young people in our country and other countries are looking up to isis because isis continues to talk to the united states, they started off in a small area that now, and 28 countries, bill, 28 countries. think of it. this is during hillary clinton's tenure, 28 countries. i want to tell you, that is disgraceful. so, you have to bring them down, you have to bring them down fast. you know, the young people and our country and other countries, they are looking up to these people, they have respect for these people. it is like, let's put it this way. they are getting good public relations because it looks like they are beating the united states, certainly, like the united states can't beat them. >> it certainly is a psychological bar, as well as a physical war. western europe hasn't really helped. another thing that you said that was very controversial, you want to profile, you want to profile arab or muslim men. how would that work? >> we have no choice. look, israel doesn't.
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and israel does it very successfully. >> they do it in the air force. >> they do it. they do it. when i see somebody that they would like to talk to, that they would like to look at, when they would like to maybe open up their satchel and take a look at what is inside, they do it. and they don't like to do it. i don't like to do it. but we have to be, you know, you have a woman who is 87 years old in a wheelchair from sweden, and we have to look at her, if we are going to look at somebody else. it's ridiculous. >> what would you do? >> you want to be so political correct -- >> do you have a vision about how profiling would work? >> it works. we see somebody that we think would be a problem at airports and other places, you talk to them, you see what is going on. >> i think they do that now. you know, look, the alleged bomber here in new york lived over a chicken stand his father owns in new jersey. i mean, come on. >> one thing i will say, i think they have gained great respect for isis and the leaders of isis. you see it all the time. they are becoming, they are
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being radicalized. >> one of the things that you are going to have to do to make america great again as restore respect for the country, both overseas, and here in america. you would agree with that, correct? >> i agree. 100%. >> another bad thing about his country, he said come about stuff about you. you did on a professional football team, what would you do with him? >> he is making a tremendous amount of money, he is leading the american dream, he is trying to make a point. i don't think he is making it the correct way. personally, if it was me, i would not be happy if i were the team owner. i would not tell you what i would do. >> would you fire him? what do you fire him? >> i would be happy to pay him all of this money, i think what he is doing is very bad for the spirit of the country. at the same time, he hasn't the right to protest. >> i said that you are going to have come and my opinion of course, you are going to build a wall. there is no question of that. you are going to come down hard
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on sanctuary cities, criminal aliens, aliens who are here illegally, who commit crimes in the usa, he will deport them immediately. you will have some static and the court system because of due process, certainly, you will authorize the parties to do that. am i correct? accurate so far? >> and we will pass cates law. >> very important. i know you have been behind that from the very beginning. the issue you are apparently modifying is what we talked about and i told you very rudely, i was rude, that there is no way you are going to be able to deport 12 million law-abiding, peaceful aliens come in the system we have prayed too much due process involved. you won't be able to get an immigration force at that kind, dragging them out of their homes. it looks like you're modifying that, am i correct there? >> i never talked about dragging people out of their homes, bill. what, just so you understand, we will have a very strong border, people will come back to the country, they'll come back illegally. they will have a wall, by the
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way, mexico will pay for the wall, 100%. we will have a wall, mexico will pay for the wall, we will have a strong border, i will authorize, get rid of all the drug lords and the gang members in all of the people that are here illegally that shouldn't be committing tremendous crimes. >> there is due process. >> unbelievable crimes. >> you can just do an executive order. >> very little due process. i think there is very little. the local police know who all of them are and we are going to get them. we will stab stabilize the bore will have a strong country, we will have a country again. when it is all completed, the wall, all of this is completed, the people that have i committed a crime, other than coming into the country, which is, depending on your definition, those people, bill, are going to determine, when we look at for the country is, how the border is, what is happening with our country, which will be down the road, we will make a determination at that time. >> that's a modification of your
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original position. but that's fine. >> depending on how you want to view it. >> sure. >> next up, a national security, edward snowden, an award-winning director, oliver stone. >> questioning the liberal medi media. you are spying into what they are trying to say. >> may be i am. if my side is right. >> that is money, because my side is right. >> right back with it.
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>> welcome back to our special edition of "factor." big interviews, big issues. controversial hollywood director oliver stone stopped by to talk about his movie about edward snowden and the growing debate over the debate over national security and individual privacy. >> how is this all possible? >> a few words, tach, takeouts, bush. think of it as a google search, instead of searching on the way people make public, we are looking at everything they don't. so, emails, chats, sms, whatever. >> which people? >> no way. >> with us now, the director of the film, the legendary, oliver stone. i didn't get to see the movie but i send my producers out. before we get into it, i want to know about you. do you see the usa is a noble
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country? >> yes. in its intentions, yes. i admire its history, much of it. i love, i grew up here. i was a new york boy. my father was a strong republican, he voted, eisenhower was his man. he was i'm so happy when i went to vietnam as an interview inf. he didn't see the need for me to go. i admired him very much. >> basically, you were brought up in a traditional home, and you say that you admire your country. politically, he would say you are left, right? sympathetic to the castro others in cuba, bernie sanders supporter, you'd be in the left-wing category? >> you could say that. >> okay. when you produce a movie like the "snowden" film, you know that there is a lot of politics just in the film itself. >> gap. >> what did you want to get across in the movie? >> i went away from the politics. i tried to stick to my role as a dramatist, that is what i do. i did a movie about nixon, i did a movie about bush.
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in many cases, less so come about the assassination, the investigation. but nixon, they thought i was too empathetic to him. as with bush, i felt strongly that i was criticized by the left for not making it it more demonic. two rolls come at me as a citizen talking, speaking out to you, and me as a dramatist, telling a story. >> can't you, can you, i should say, as a director, you have a script to work with, obviously, you like the script, in this case, my producer reports, this film is sympathetic to snowden. it is sympathetic. >> empathetic. >> all right. >> you know me, i'm not that well educated with words. it makes him look good, right? in totality? >> it is for you to judge. when you see the movie, you come out, it is not trying to lead you, i'm trying to lay out the story that happened. >> surely, you know, there is emotion attached to snowden. how he is portrayed by you, the
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director, is going to influence how people here like or don't like the movie. i want to get your reaction by the president about snowden. go. >> the way in which these disclosures happened have been -- have been damaging to the united states. and damaging to our intelligence capabilities. and i think that there was a way for us to have this conversation without that damage. >> okay. so, not a conservative man, a liberal man. barack obama. how do you react to that? >> he is also said the opposite. he brought up the conversation and the need for reform has to be discussed. he, in fact, endorsed the freedom act, which was passed in 2015, which, although some people criticized it as being too moderate, it was voted on by 200 republicans, more or less, and the house. 35 republicans in the senate. >> i think most americans want more security. at the same time, they don't
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want individuals like snowden to go out with national security, that could cause people's lives. we have seen that on a number of levels. what i would want you to react to, president obama, you have to take him on his word that he didn't think that snowden's actions were good for the country. how do you react to that? >> we show in the movie is 20088 election at the promises he made for reform and transparency. part of the problem for snowden is that he didn't give to those words. >> you say obama -- go >> he double done on the bush administration's surveillance, the other forms of warfare he created. >> isn't possible that the presidents know more about how to protect america then edward snowden? >> i've heard that ever since i was a young boy. >> you don't believe that? >> i believe governments lie. i think they protect their own interest. >> what is the interest, it seems to me that the interest of electronic surveillance and all of the things that you deal witd snowden dealt with is to protect americans from isis. >> that is what they tell us.
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>> you don't believe that? >> no, no. it is warfare, we initiated it, we did a global initiative in 2007, we used it against iran secretly. and even, it is still classified, we haven't admitted to it. that got out in the world, it went through around, went to other countries like jordan. it went on and on. i talked to the guy who saw the virus, took seven, eight months to find out what it was. >> i can speak to that -- >> we started a new form of warfare, this is very serious, it has gone on and on and on, now, people are very smart. there is no secret to it, they picked up how to hack us. >> do you believe, though, this is being done, you had some questions about the 9/11 attack, i remember. >> i was questioning what the nsa and cia were doing to protect us, as you say. i don't think they did a very good job. >> you don't think it's a conspiracy? >> no. i think they fumbled the ball. >> that put you on the other side of the issue, then. if you want the protection of
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agencies, they have to have some, a blanket of ability to tap and to look. >> selective targets. >> yes. >> we have plenty of them. but why cap everybody? >> don't tap everybody? >> there are because of the use and the nsa to go in. >> i notice you made that point, they have a database they can go on anybody and find out all they want to know. >> you don't think that this country is actively trying to persecute its own people for these devices, do you? >> no, i don't think so. they do have invasive ability beyond all measure, supported by a technological machine that is incredible. >> we saw that with the russian hackers coming right in. >> we don't know about the russian hackers. >> snowden told me they were. no, he didn't, that's a joke. that's a joke. >> coming up, ronald reagan and the actor that portrays him, tom
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matheson, talks about playing the role of our 40th president and "killing reagan." >> reagan was the foundation that the country needed to pull it together. i was really moved by that. >>re back in a moment. straight talk wireless uses the same towers, but only charges half. you get the same 4g lte networks... ...so your phone works in more places... ...for a lot less. it's time to ask yourself... ...why haven't i switched? get a samsung galaxy s7, or bring your own phone. unlimited talk, text and data just forty-five dollars a month. no contract. straighttalk wireless. only at walmart. wonly new alka-seltzer plus st want powerful relief.
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>> continuing now with the special addiction of "factor." president reagan came into the
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country with the goal of turning our country around after the disastrous presidency of jimmy carter. reagan needed to be strong and determined. what i wrote my book, "killing reagan," i portrayed much of the presidents drive. i recently talked with dr. tim matheson, who played ronald reagan, the 40th president, and a nat geo film, " >> why would i risk losing everything if i can get 75% of what i want? >> the last time i checked, i am in control here. >> so, did you know a lot about ronald reagan when he was in office? >> you know, i was politically minded. i must say, he won me over. he is the only republican i ever voted for. >> as president? you are a liberal minded guy? >> yeah. >> most of hollywood obviously is. some of them are pinheads, some of them aren't. we don't mind if you are liberal, as long as you are a thinking liberal. i am independent. i vote for some democrats if i
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think they are the best problem solvers. now, what did reagan do to invite you over? >> reagan was the tonic this country needed at this time, it was such a financial mess, such an emotional mess, just because nixon and all the things, and carter was a lovely man but not a great president. >> you voted for carter. >> i did. i made that mistake. i wouldn't have done it again. i must say, reagan really was the foundation the country needed to pull it together, i was really moved by that. >> you saw how he performed that? that is what we want, open mindedness. when he was shot, do you remember that? >> i was surprised at how moved and upset i was because it was like her your grandfather, you, and it was like, why? >> you didn't know whether he was going to live. the news reports were almost blacked out. the kid who plays him, just like they killed who played oswalt in
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"killing kennedy," he's a young actor, spooky. >> i got to do something now to make you understand in no uncertain terms that i am doing all of this for your sake. >> being around him, that kept us apart. he kept kyle isolated throughout the whole movie. >> is that right? >> no actors talk to him. >> he is running around williamsburg, virginia. he is out. >> when you accepted this role to play the president, all right, what was the hardest thing about it? >> not to be trapped by worrying about her sounding and moving like reagan. i mean, i have to do that in part, but i wanted to explore the emotional and the heart of the man. that was the most important thing to me. >> did you watch a lot of tape of him? >> everything i could find. >> you do sound a bit like him. >> it is a bargaining chip and
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you are just giving it away. >> i don't see it that way. >> reagan was a very close guy. he didn't like to show a lot to anybody. but nancy, you had a to connect with the actors who is playing nancy. cynthia nixon. how was that? >> not hard at all. she is wonderful. she is a wonderful actress. she is an intense listener. if i change the tone or an inflection of a response or a line to her, she is really remarkable. >> i think you are more nervous than i am. >> break a leg. >> i think viewers will be surprised because it isn't -- you are not watching cynthia nixon after a while, you are watching nancy reagan. same thing with the president. >> thank you. i think she did an excellent job. it is a less sympathetic role. she was the bad cop to reagan's good cop, you know. >> right. >> she gave that to him. she took care of him. if she didn't like the way
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somebody was treating him or acting around him. >> gone. >> now, when your hollywood pals, your liberal pals, you guys are all sitting around smoking pot, you know, and doing what you did, i am going to do "killing reagan" written by o'reilly, to the crosses come out? that they collect as? tell me the truth. >> i am wearing garlic now come as a matter of fact. speaker did you get any jazz? >> not at all. if anybody did, i said, you can't act politics. this is not about politics. >> is a good story, right? >> it's a great story. >> i am nervous. >> are you? >> i am crazy if i wasn't. i want to do this. i mean, i can do this. >> you know what, you know him, and have worked with him, tom hanks. and tom, when i told tom i was doing this, he remarked how
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wonderful the projects were. he worked on "killing lincoln." >> he was supportive. >> hanks is a diabolical man. [laughter] what he said, he said, i will show up on "killing lincoln," you will show up "killing reagan" so o'reilly doesn't screw it up. that will infiltrate and make sure the project is awesome and not some crazy kemo right. thing. you did a great job. i was pleased when i hired you. you won me over. i hope for you and makes nixon get nominated for amines. >> next up, robert f kimmitt don't tell matt kennedy, jr., his cousin is innocent of murder. he was convicted decades ago. is he not guilty? then, joe namath speaks about head injuries and what happens to him.
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>> you had to get out of your economic circumstance through sports. you paid a price but the price was worth it? >> to me, it was worth it. there were those that i played with it i question is it worth it to them. >> right back with it.
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>> live from america's news headquarters, that this is what happening. the turkey nightclub attacker, police are there, acting on a tip. law enforcement raided an apartment, so far, there is no reports of any arrest. earlier today, a turkish official said they have the gunman's fingerprints. he is suspected of opening fire inside the nightclub on new year's eve, killing 39 people. he managed to slip from the scene by taking advantage of the chaos that ensued. severe weather, including thunderstorms and tornadoes, sweeping across the south. this storm system, which bonded texas, bringing heavy flooding to alabama. also, knocked out power to more
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than 80,000 customers in louisiana and mississippi. some buildings have been damaged but there was no reports of any injuries or deaths. that's a look at news this hour. i'm kelly wright in washington. back now to "the o'reilly factor" ." ♪ >> justice in america. you may remember the case of michael skakal. convicted of murder, 2013, after serving 11 years in prison, mr. skakal was awarded a new trial. he is part of the kennedy family. his cousin, robert kennedy, jr., has written a new book called "framed, wife michael skakel spent over a decade in prison for a murder he did not convict." the book says that he is completely innocent. i don't want to adjudicate the case of television. we don't have time. it's not fair to the prosecution. i do want to get into the fact that the connecticut supreme court will make a decision on whether there is a new trial for michael skakel any
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time now. you have any heads up on its? >> it could be as long as a year, it could be two weeks. >> you don't know. they will be the tail. if they say, no new trial, then, skakel goes back. >> he goes back to prison. he served 11 and a half years company of a 25 to life sentence. if they overrule that, michael goes back to jail, if they uphold a come of that, the prosecutor has to decide whether to retrial or try the guys thatl colors. >> what i find fascinating about your book is that you and your cousin weren't exactly friends when this whole thing went down. is that correct? >> we were friends in the early '80s. we both got sober at the same time. our friendship deteriorated and we were estranged during his trial. it wasn't until this january that we reconciled. i wrote the book, even though michael was not speaking to me,
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i knew that he was innocent. >> you, from the jump, were on his side and proclaiming his innocence. why was he angry with you? >> you know, he went through, as i show on in the book, he went through a really difficult life. he was put in this very brutal reform school. he was tortured every day for two years. 11 years of prison. before that, he had a very tough time. so, he has been a very acute case of post-traumatic stress syndrome. and when mark fuhrman began attacking him and the path that would later put michael in prison, he thought that the reason he was being attacked was because this association with the kennedy family. as a show on the book, there was no relationship between the kennedys -- go >> it was in a rational opinion that he had. he got mad at you. the reason i gave you that blurb that is on the cover of the book is that i admire your loyalty to
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a man who wasn't real fond of you at the time. so, you said, i'm going to but all the personal stuff aside, i don't think most people would have done that. i'm going to try to seek justice. i believe you are trying to seek justice now. whether you are right or wrong, i don't know. i don't know. that is why i say, you should read the book, you should listen to what the prosecution has to say, we will see with the supreme court has to say. your loyalty to the man is very, very unique, i think. >> well, you know, loyalty, and a lot of people have accused family members, skakel family members, of being loyal to the extent of covering up a murder, which, none of those skakels has the moral bankruptcy to do that kind of thing. i knew someone who i knew was innocent and it's like, if you witness a mugging on the street, you have to make a choice as to whether or not to get involved
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or put your head down and keep walking. i saw a guy put in jail for life for a crime he did not commit. you know, i felt like i had no choice but to do what i did. >> mr. kennedy, thank you very much for coming in. >> thank you so much. >> plenty more still to come, as a special edition of "factor" continues. how did hollywood portray what was behind the great recession of 2008? >> cologne? >> no. >> opportunity. >> money. >> i will talk with the award winning director of "the big short," adam mckay. need go... london's got the best of everything. cornwall's got the best of everything. sport
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>> personal try segment tonight, hollywood and politics, the movie, "the big short," is it is about the collapse of the mordred insecurities section that led to the great recession. we are still feeling that today. i spoke with award-winning director adam mckay about the recession and his movie. >> one of my swaps on mortgage,
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it will pay off, if the underlying bond fails -- >> you want to bet against them? >> those bonds only fail if millions of americans don't pay their mortgages. that is never happened in history. >> who tried to keep politics out of the movie, i was waiting for the left left-wing spin. but there was an antigovernment message over all, correct? >> well, you know, we looked at ng.s will be something that goes it obviously affected everyone, as far as the questions of my government, i mean, what we really question where the areas where the government took a lot of money from the banks. sort of neutered itself as a regulatory body. there were some shots of the government, there was a jump shots of the bank, there was a corrupt system. >> there is no doubt about that. you made the point very vividly and explained as well during the film. >> did you hear? is anybody jumping off of
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buildings yet? >> why would they, sub prime mortgage is up. >> he is asking us to post collateral. >> what the hell is going on? >> i don't know. >> you are a liberal guy, right? >> i guess, technically, he would call me a liberal guy, although, i am just against corruption, against our government being bought and paid for. >> a lot of americans are distrustful of the federal government and they are also distrustful of left-wing, right-wing, depending on where you are. there really isn't any trust at all in the country right now, is there? >> i have always thought the answer is really simple. if you have a representative and they are taking a lot of money from the banks are oil companies or billionaires, don't vote for them. they are taking that money, you know for fact, they will vote in support of those people. speak if you make a point in the "the big short" that the folks had to bail out those big broker guys that made the court deal, which is true.
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>> what is that? >> cologne? >> no. >> opportunity. >> no. money. >> one of the movies of yours that you made that i like best is "anchorman," because i sought the main character, will ferrell ripped me off, i have a much better physique than he does. >> watch out for the guns. they'll get you. >> what were you trying to get across here? those movies really did well. >> i think most of all, will and i loved to laugh. they are clearly silly, absurdist comedies. i think it was also a little bit of a poke at how ratings driven the news has become, how profit. >> what you are about to see is a channel for news exclusive. his name is not to you the squirrel and he is three years old. >> how about that? [laughs] >> that's hilarious. >> most of all, we wanted to make people laugh. we were poking fun at the
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perfect hairdos of the anchors and the perfect ties. but yeah, it is definitely a comedy with a little bit of a job at the for-profit news. >> the shallow news people. >> he had a voice that could make her appropriate and pursues it so find they make sinatra look like a hobo. >> i told you, i should have done a cameo. i know will ferrell is a big "factor" fan. he text me all the time, bill, i love the talking point, i'd love the tip of the day. the next time you are making "anchorman 3" i expect to be on that set. mr. mckay, if you want to shallow, here i am. i am the shoals. >> god bless you, sir. >> thank you. >> we appreciate it and you will be called the next time. >> thank you. speak up when we get back, footn joe namath talks about the danger of head injuries and game. >> i did get checked because i knew i had at least five concussions. i had a lot of sales that weren't working in the temporal
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>> i am bello riley. head injuries in the national football league. football legend joe namath has had a couple of himself, but through treatment with hyperbaric chamber therapy, he feels today like a new man. we spoke with him about that as well as his prestigious career. >> i am a big jets fan, i lived right near where you guys trained at hofstra. on long island. back then, it seems to me, that it was much more dangerous to be a quarterback. then it is today. >> bill, it was. anyone that was in the hole or the pocket was going to get hurt because we didn't have the kind of protection may have today. the game has improved in that category. i think we are trying to protect all of the players more so than yesteryear. >> is big money with these quarterbacks. back then, guys like ben david said, they wanted to rip your head off and kill you, am i wrong? >> god wrap his soul, he had the theory with the oakland raiders, i'm talking about it. >> they smash you as hard as they could smash you, then, they say something nasty to you. >> what they said to us, we said right back, some of them talked about their own, too. >> the results of all that, you
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are 72 years old now, injuries to throughout your whole life. ken stabler, who volunteered alabama, his family just announced that he had brain disease that he got hit in the had times. you seem, your mental faculties, seem to be intact. >> i did go get checked because i knew i had at least five concussions. this was 2012, i started. >> so, you have a little bit of damage but not enough to impair you? >> i had a lot of a sales that weren't working in the temporal area on the left side of my brain that are not functioning because of a treatment i took with hyperbaric oxygen prayed >> you had to get out of your econc circumstance through sports. i mean, you had to play. if you wanted to leave beaver falls, pennsylvania and go to college and all of that. so, you paid a price but the price was worth it, was at? >> to me, it was worth it. to this stage, it was worth it. there are those fellows that i played without a question, is it
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worth it to them. >> now, you were loved and hated. especially, because you are a little flamboyant, i would say, right? >> you know what, you don't like to be told you can't do something, and we all like to stand out a little bit. >> doing this can make my legs look good, imagine what they will do for yours. >> you were broadway joe and you are cocky and i have to confess, i wore white shoes. my question is, today, cam newton is now being charged on the hot shot because he does a little dance in the end zone, which i enjoy. but you went through this. >> when night comes to sports, waiting is the answer. if you are going out and carrying on, showboating, dancing around, you are not winning, your teammates will knock you down. they are not going to put up with that. >> was their racism in football when you were there? you played with a lot of great black players. i lot of -- was there racism?
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>> yeah, there has always been racism. there is racism them and there is racism today, and we both know that it is not the right way to live. hatred and anger is not healthy. but we have come a long way. >> but you and i don't know to people know this, but namath stuck up for the black players. think of my parents side of the family, most of the people to ts day, they carry a chip on their shoulder whenever they are starting to judge people by their color, by their walk, whatever, ethnicity, that is ingrained from home to start with. >> you had worked out, like now, they are just work out war years, these guys are around, to put it politely, you didn't really work out that much, other than your elbow coming up to her mouth on. >> some other kinds of things, too. >> that work out is also controversial. my question is, if you had worked out, if you had been like they are now, these guys are unbelievable, the machines. with that have helped
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physically, do you think? >> i know it would've helped, sure. that is one of the major steps forward today with the sports. the nutrition aspect alone. so, yes, today's methods are much better and they should be. >> did you ever think that if you had been a workout warrior and not been broadway joe -- [laughs] -- more than 4000 yards in a season, you were out until like six in the morning, you go from the party to begin, i mean, it's amazing what you did. >> we did all right. [laughter] i wouldn't change my ways. i wouldn't change my ways. >> are you sure? [laughs] joe namath, thank you for coming in. >> thank you, bill. >> next up, beach boys legend my glove talks about drugs, charles manson, and overcoming all of it to become one of america's greatest bands ever. ♪
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>> of the book segment tonight, the legendary pop group, the beach boys, over the years, they have had more top 40 hits than n history. the beach boys still to her and the lead singer, mike love, has written a new book called "good vibrations," that chronicles what happened to the band. some of it is surprising. >> so, first of all, i'm a big beach boys fan, have been since i was six years old. that is how much older you are then me. >> [laughs] >> when i read your book, though, there were a lot of things that i didn't know about the band that you write about. the first when i want to get into is, it seems like every single american rock band was destroyed by drugs. and the beach boys, no exception. brian wilson got heavily into drugs, and so did all the other members, some of it was heroin. big time drugs. why does that happen? >> you know, back at me '60s,
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marijuana was no big thing. but then, along comes lsd. and that really messed some peoples brains up. >> did you ever take lsd? >> no. actually not. speak about your cousin, brian wilson did. >> and dennis and carl. >> did that change them? >> my cousin said, once he heard all those d, he heard voices saying derogatory voices to him. in that specific situation, it didn't do brian any favors. >> started off as clean-cut kids from hawthorne, california, making a great new sound. ♪ and then, all of a sudden, a few years later, you are dropping balls. and then, along the line, you got to meet all the big rock
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icons. tell the story about meeting the beatles and the book. did you get along with those guys? >> beautifully. he resent and i both had our beauties in 1968 and george passed away, i was feeling very melancholy about it because he is such a good person. paul mccartney came to the breakfast table one morning playing, listen to this, mike mike, -- >> "back in the ussr." >> why do you think they were so successful? did you ever think about that? >> they were brilliant at marketing and promotion. "sergeant pepper's" album cover was brilliant. our cover of "pet sounds" was photographed at the san diego petting zoo. [laughs] >> you have to give it to the beatles. any phenomenon, i think the beach boys are probably the best american group ever. you, and your boat, get kind of dark, and the darkest part, dennis wilson gets involved with charles manson. you first heard about that, did you have any idea how bad this manson was? >> come no. nobody did. we knew he was weird. dennis comes home from a tour we had been on, and charlie and the
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girls were living at his house. >> they moved into dennis wilson's house? >> they moved in. and they took cars, clothing, anything that wasn't nailed down. >> did dennis welton think he was strange? >> well, let's put it this way. why are you so off-site today, dennis. i was out of the ranch, i saw charlie taking m-16 rifle and throw a black cat, meaning an african-american guy, a black cat and half and stop him down a well at the ranch. >> he killed a guy? >> yes. >> did you believe that story? >> that is what i was told by dennis. >> the other chilling part is susan atkins, one of the manson killers, babysat your kids. >> yeah, that's right. >> it's because you didn't knowt the time that susan atkins was a killer. >> no, no, no. that all became revealed after. >> did it ever occur to you, when you were 21, 22-year-old guy, coming up with a span, and you are making a lot of people happy, that a 75, he would be saying the words --
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♪ >> actually, bill, no. [laughter] ♪ >> you are 75 years old, what you'd do it come out hundred 75b shows? >> 172. >> i am sorry. >> i was saying 175, 175 shows did the beach posted and 2815. why did you do it? >> you are a beach boy fan. you see the audience response. >> yeah. ♪ >> because they are happy, that makes you happy and that is why you did a? >> yeah, i was one of the co-creators of the music, to see the kind of response and how much happiness generated and an evening's performance is a wonderful thing. ♪ >> mike love, everybody, the book is "good vibrations." >> thank you, bill. >> that is it for us tonight.
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i want to thank you for watching the special edition of "factor." i am bill o'reilly. please come always or member, that the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. >> a revolution is underway. it stands at the crossroads and the question tonight, how will this historic events of 2016 affect the next 12 months of our american story? good evening. welcome to this "the kelly file." i am sandra smith emperor megyn kelly. weighing the impact of the new hollywood film on benghazi and still reeling from the terror attack that left 14 dead and 22 injured in san bernardino, california. we had no way to know that domestic terror would remain a constant for the coming year. that protest against police turn de