>> my friends are texting me, i do not hate him, i really adore him. >> just because we tangled. >> last month on a friday. we will see you back on monday. >> we begin with a fox news alert, major milestone within reach on wall street as the dow closes in on 20,000. >> jenna: so close, so far away. nine points. they were within one point of that number before fighting back a bit, but we are watching the trading day and have all of the news "happening now." >> donald, grow up, time to be an adult. you are president. >> jon: vice president joe biden with tough advice for the president-elect as mr. trump gets an intelligence briefing on russian hacking. plus, a new president and his new way of communicating with americans. how can the media cover

president trump's tweets and what impact will they have? and a snowstorm stopping school buses in their tracks. >> we got the call that they were sending him home, the buses were stuck. >> jon: benign outward ordeal that left some parents fearing for their children's safety. it is all "happening now." ♪ >> jenna: we begin with the president-elect getting a highly classed debriefing by the nation's top intelligence officials on russian interference in the u.s. election here welcome to the second hour of "happening now." i am jenna lee. >> jon: i'm jon scott. the meeting takes place at trump tower, unusual because it lacks security in place for this kind of briefing. mr. trump has been skeptical of the intelligence agencies conclusions about hacking during the election year. among them are john brennan, director of the national

security agency admiral michael rogers, director of national intelligence james clapper and fbi director james comey. our chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following the meeting from our bureau. what do we know? >> thank you. this hour we do expect a classified intelligence briefing to begin. separately, fox news has confirmed the report identified who provided wikileaks with the dnc and clinton campaign emails. there is also intelligence we understand that was pulled from an intercepted phone call, but we were told not to overlook the significance of the "celebratory discussion." all of this we expect will be shared with mr. trump during that briefing. yesterday on capitol hill, no one from the intelligence community testified on the record that the russian president vladimir putin was pulling the strings on this operation and no one said publicly the intent was to help donald trump win and make sure hillary clinton lost. but the nations top chief did testify russia wanted to expand its influence in the west. a short time ago, fox news

confirmed there is a lot more to the dnc server story than initially reported. a dnc spokesperson told fox earlier this week that the fbi never asked for access to their hacked computer servers. this is at the core of the entire intelligence report. but this morning, a senior fbi official said in fact they dnc blocked access to the bureau. "the fbi repeatedly stressed to dnc officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data only to be rebuffed. these actions caused significant delays and inhibited the fbi from addressing the intrusion earlier." instead, the fbi relied on forensic review by an outside firm that the dnc had hired. a leading cybersecurity express at a high profile case like this with allegations of foreign interference, the bureau would always want to do its own review. >> once the fbi is involved, seems like they would want to get their hands on the server

themselves, mirror the server over to their own devices so they could conduct in-depth forensic analysis, that way they can ask iterative questions and make sure no data is lost while doing it. >> the unclassified version of this report is expected to be public on monday, but now we are getting reports tha it could happen as early as today, and we will of course keep you updated if we get confirmation of that. >> jon: i would be fascinating to be in trump tower right now in the briefing. >> fascinating may not be the right word. [laughs] >> jon: catherine herridge, thank you, have a great weekend. >> jenna: lots of breaking news, meanwhile with the inauguration two weeks away, a wild and a protectable election is about to come to an official end. you thought it was already officially over, but here is the real process. congress meeting in a joint session to certify the electoral college vote and officially declared donald trump the next president of the united states. our chief course when it was on capitol hill, let's go there

now. >> good afternoon p or their purpose here is to certify the electoral college results, basically a final check in the joint session of congress. we saw vice president joe biden, mitch mcconnell walking through the hall a short time ago, and we also saw various members of the senate and house making their way into the house chamber. vice president biden, speaker ryan will prove to them i preside over the joint session and will look like the state of the union address. the bottom line is house democrats may challenge the election results and speaker ryan told them it is basically time to get over it, time to move on. >> first of all, and i think this is what the president-elect is legitimately upset about. there are attempts to try to delegitimize this election. that is just bogus. he won fair and square. >> among those to watch, texas democrat congresswoman sheila jackson lee who may tried to challenge the election results but house democratic leader today did not sound optimistic

any house democrat protest would change anything. >> i supported, i am not encouraging it, but i certainly support what they are doing. i think, quite frankly, there is nothing they could say in there that would be an overstatement of the reasons why we should have a fuller discussion, but the fact is you cannot do it on a one half basis. >> if a senate democrat were to join a house democratic protest, that could certainly stretch this out, but nancy pelosi told reporters that she expects mr. trump to be our 45th president. >> jenna: we will watch the news. thank you, mike. >> jon: more action ahead on capitol hill as congress debates the future of obamacare. brand-new polling is out on how the battle is playing out in the court of public opinion. according to kaiser, americans are pretty much divided, 49% say they want the law repealed, 47% do not. at the same time, only 20% say

congress should vote to repeal the laws right away and work out a replacement for it later. let's talk about it with joe joe trippi, former howard dean campaign manager in fox campaign manager. also lisa boothe, founder of high noon strategies, and a fox news contributor. lisa, is it your understanding that repeal and replace means get rid of the law and then come up with something sometime down the road to replace it? >> i think we are seeing that it is complicated. obamacare has been around for quite some time and its tentacles run deep. i think republicans are now dealing with that fact. we've had at least three senators stepped out to say they think it would be a bad policy to repeal and wait on the replacement part, so we are seeing some disagreement and republicans. you have to remember that republicans have a majority in the senate, but they do not have a filibuster proof majority. there are limitations with what they can do with budget reconciliation, so we are seeing

republicans grapple obviously with the complexities of what that replacement is going to look like. they absolutely need to get it done. this is something they have been promising voters, and it is something voters have demonstrate it that they want an election after election since 2010. >> jon: it is not just healthcare, joe. it is roughly a fifth of the economy they are tinkering with here. >> it is 20% of the economy. look, repeal and replace is a great slogan. it works well. it is easy to say. but as lisa knows, it is a lot tougher to do. the repeal part is actually pretty easy, they have the votes to do that even with opposition in the senate. they could probably do that. the real problem has been that despite all of the different scenarios and different plans that are out there, the republicans have not been able to agree on what the replace is. and there was a reason the obama

administration did this very early in the initiation because it built up all the people on the road over six years instead of doing it two years ago, people have asked that question. that makes it even tougher because now there are 30 million or so people out there who are getting obamacare, and you cannot keep the good parts, the pre-existing conditions, the 26-year-olds and under that stay on their parents plan, you cannot keep those without getting rid of the mandates and other things that find it. it's a very complicated situation, in the republicans, they have got it now. they do have to fulfill the promise. how they are going to do that is going to be, again if you look at the polling, the 20% that say, okay, repeal but not without a plan, that is a lot of people out there that are on the other side of that that wanted see repeal and replace, not repeal and wait it out. >> jon: opponents of obamacare

have long said, lisa, you did not have to blow up the entire healthcare system to get those couple of things past. the ban on pre-existing conditions, failing to issue policies for pre-existing conditions, and allowing young people to stay on their parent's policies, you did not have to write this entire gargantuan law to be able to make those things happen. >> yes, and a lot of things we worried about are happening, there are more sick and costly people signing up and not enough healthy people that are pure they would rather pay the penalty because it is ultimately going to be cheaper. this is something the democratic party shoved down america's throat against their will on a partisan basis. there was not a single republican vote. where it is going right now is unsustainable whether it is the expansion of medicaid, which is heading on an up sustainable spending trajectory or the fact that a report was put out showing that insurers lost money and 41 states which is why we

are seeing big insurers pulling out of the marketplace because they are not making money. it is also why so many americans are seeing such high premiums as a result. so the way it is going is a disaster. the things people were warned about have come true, so something absolutely needs to get done. i do think there's going to be a lot of fearmongering from the left because it is president obama's crowning achievement, crowning domestic policy so republicans need to be smart about the way they approach it and ignore some of the fearmongering but be smart about how they do it. >> jon: put the two of you and over together and let you pick the plan. >> sound like a good plan. >> jon: good to have you on, thank you. >> jenna: president-elect trump and his team now looking for options for a building that wall. we have all heard so much about it. who pays for it? mr. trump is not backing down from his campaign promise, we explain. plus secretary of state john kerry winding down his tenure and is now sitting down with fox news for a look back and forward at demo diplomacy in

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>> jon: fox news alert in a frightening situation underway right now at fort lauderdale or hollywood international airport in florida. reports of shots fired in one of the terminals. we have seen aerial video from the helicopter, and there is some of it that shows passengers apparently just broke through the security doors and ran out on the tarmac. a number of reports of shots fired at fort lauderdale hollywood international airport. it is obviously quite a serious situation. they have that many people out there on the tarmac. airports never like to let passengers get outside the secure area, so this is going to cause flight delays that are going to continue throughout the day at fort lauderdale hollywood and possibly other places because those aircraft are going to be slowed down and departing. >> jenna: looking at social media as much as we can, it can

be reliable at times, unreliable and others but as we were searching for more information on what transpired only moments ago at fort lauderdale airport, i see a familiar face on fox news, ari fleischer, you know him as the former white house princess kateri. he is on twitter and according to his account, this is what he set on social media. i am at fort lauderdale airport, shots have been fired, everyone is running. he continues to say the police said there is one shooter, five victims. he is now saying only a few moments ago, all seems calm now, but the police are not letting anyone out of the airport at least not the area where i am. we've seen other reports that have matched the numbers that he has mentioned, but we do not have confirmation of that yet. and we do not know again, what exactly transpired. 1:50 eastern time now according to the timeline, this would have happened within the last 20 or l very fresh, and we are seeing the best pictures we have as we

mentioned, live shots from our affiliates. that appears to be the tarmac. is that correct? >> jon: they are out on the tarmac. people apparently bolted out of the terminal building and through those doors that sound alarms when you open them, but obviously you would rather hear an alarm then gunshots peered people apparently heard the gunshots and ran for safety as best they could. police are holding them there and that improvised pen, not allowing them back into the building for now. they are going to continue to search for the gunmen or gun men as the afternoon goes on. >> jenna: we have a little bit more information now, i'm just going to read to you what we do know coming into our newsroom. a shooting allegedly took place between terminal 2 and 3 and the taxi area at around 1:00 p.m. friday, so that follows the timeline, about 20 minutes ago. there shooter according to this report has been contained.

there are victims. the extent of those injuries for those victims is unknown at the time. but again, we are seeing the placements between terminal 2 and 3, 1 report said it was in the taxi area and from the initial reports, the initial reports are saying the extent of the injuries are unknown at this time. >> jon: fort lauderdale airport has grown tremendously over the last 25 years or so. it was a golf course basically not that long ago. it is now one of the busier airports in the country. again, to have that terminal shut down as it is for now is going to radically affect flights in and out of fort lauderdale in relief lights all around the country because planes that are not leaving fort lauderdale are not going to be available to go on to another destination when they land. we are working on getting some more information. sounds like this happen, as genocide, may be at the taxi stand

outside the terminals, but clearly people heard the shots and basically ran for ther lives p that is where we find te passengers now. >> jenna: that is what we have now at this very moment. what we have from the airport going back is the best source of information we have from wsvn. fort lauderdale airport has a twitter feed themselves. this is what the airport is saying publicly. there is an ongoing incident and terminal 2, baggage claim. media availability is at the staging area, that is a notification to all of us that there will be oncoming information, but let's talk a little bit about the fact that the airport itself says this is ongoing, and we are piecing this together. former fbi task force member on the phone, steve, as the picture comes together for us all at about the same time, it is our understanding there was some sort of incident that happen either at the taxi area are often right the baggage claim where people are picking a back, moving out to leave the airport.

we only know from our affiliate that the shooter has been contained, but what that means exactly we do not know. we don't know the extent of injuries. what is the priority for law enforcement right now? >> right now, they have shut down those terminals. there is no one going to be leaving that terminal at all or any of those areas at all until everyone is checked out by the police. i can tell you right now that they are probably concerned about may be other suspects. they want to make sure there is not just one shooter contained, there are other people involved and to look for them. very important right now is the video footage that they are probably looking at now as we are speaking to see what went on, how it went on, how this thing went down. we are talking about the baggage area. we don't know if something was put on one of those conveyor belts, something came off the aircraft, so it is so soon to assume anything, but i will tell you this. the police have the whole place tightened up, no one is coming or going.

>> jon: unfortunate in this day and age that every time something like this happens, we have to inquire about the prospect of terrorism. we know that terrorists have attacked airports in turkey, for instance. you have to wonder whether that is part of the plan here. >> you're absolutely right. i include myself, many people in the intelligence community has had for many months that it is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when. whether it be a terrorist, international connect or homegrown terrorist, terrorism is terrorism. saying that, we are beginning to realize because we have seen this happen in other airports, we are going to have to change our rules of engagement regarding law enforcement. there has to be a tremendous hive's ability of uniformed officers and all of these public places. these are soft targets. we hear time and time again, we don't have the money to put police personnel or dogs here or there, we are going to have to do it. we are either going to spend

money or spend lives, but what we have to do is ensure that we are doing the best we can to protect the people. that does not mean a lone gunman or some maniac is going to come in and begin to cause havoc, but what it does mean is it will certainly minimize the possibility of something happening. we are going to have to change the rules of engagement. >> jon: i don't want to jump the gun, we don't know the situation here. we understand that shots were fired near the area of the taxi stand. driving a cab can be a stressful occu has a beef with another, and he pulls out a gun. we don't know what happen here, but it obviously frightened those passengers who are now well out onto the tarmac, being held in a pen there at fort lauderdale international airport. >> jenna: might be confusing to our viewers peered under it was the first time i heard that eyewitness accounts can sometimes be the most misleading pair you have to be careful p that seems counterintuitive because you think an eyewitness sees everything. as we take a look again at

fort lauderdale airport where the shooting took place. we are seeing this time reports that the number of injured has gone up you want to be careful with the numbers, we don't know them yet. i did mention the initial report placed around a handful of people with injuries. now we are seeing it move up a little bit more. we do not have confirmation of the exact number, so i hesitate sharing that, but according to the airport, and ongoing situation. quite frankly, we don't know whether or not this is over yet. according to one report, i should also mention, again, we are going through a few different reports here, our affiliates as the shooter is contained, another , and other s the shooter is in custody. will try to work it out here rod wheeler is here, former homicide detective who joins us by phone. here we are watching on live television, you see a playland because if you are in the area, you have to land, but the folks on the plane have no idea what situation they are landing into.

>> exactly, and this is still a very fluid situation. i was listening when you said that police have the suspect contained. some viewers may think what does that mean? that means the threat itself may have been taken out right now, the individual has been surrounded, possibly in custody, we don't know, still a very fluid situation. what happens at airports is when the airport police notify the authorities, what is going to happen is all flights coming in and going out of the airport are put on hold at that point. that way no one can come in, no one can get out until the situation is under control. >> jon: talk about getting the situation under control. that has to be for the investigator standpoint, sort of the worst possible scenario. you've got thousands and thousands of people, some of whom are arriving, some are trying to leave, and you are trying to figure out who the gunman is, who got shot, who the target was peered from the

standpoint of a police investigator, it has to be a nightmare scenario. >> it is, but i will tell you one thing for we do train. law enforcement trains for these situations quite often. you make a very good point in terms of aircraft coming in and going out. until the situation is really under control, meaning they have the suspect in custody and there is no other threat. that is the other thing you have to worry about with these types of situations, you may have a person surrounding or in custody, but if they are still having others they are, it could be the form of a bomb or vehicle, we don't know. what we are doing right now, they try to take care to check out the person they have, make sure there is no further threat to the passengers are people living in that area. >> jon: again, this will have ripple effects on the air travel nationwide. jetblue is the biggest airline serving fort lauderdale international airport, 23% coming in and out are jetblue flights. if you're elsewhere in the

country, and you think it does not affect you but are planning to take jetblue today, you might want to check on the departure time because this is going to slow down that airline significantly and a number of others as well. >> jenna: certainly a lot of scary moments for the folks on the tarmac right now, obviously the rushed out of the airport. according to what we see on social media, it was clearly heard that there were shots fired. now reports are placing the number of those shot around nine, so again these are initial numbers and we are relying on additional media reports, not confirmation from law enforcement sources that are obviously responding, and we can see as well. it is the nation's 22nd busiest airport. we have about 80,000 people that move in and out of the airport every day as passengers and other people working. we are seeing some images, we are not going to be able to air at the time, of those that have been injured. it is clear that an incident didn't happen. see on our screen, reports of shots fired peewee can confirm

that shots were indeed fired and those injured as well. this situation really developing over the last half an hour, we want to point out around 1:00 p.m. eastern time. terminal 2 and 3 around the baggage claim area, some say the taxi area. at the same moment, we don't want to lose sight of what is happening in their city, huge intel briefing at trump tower, we see on ap wire that briefing is underway right now. you can see on your screen, we are watching wall street for what could be a historic landmark and so a lot of breakg news to take in at this time. this is the most immediate attention we need at the moment, shots fired at fort lauderdale airport. >> jon: interest income of one of the photographs i've seen on social media, and i think what you have alluded to, it doesn't seem to show a worker or an employee who is on the ramp side of the building, that is te area where the planes pull in and out who had been shot.

we have been told that the shooting started in an area near the taxi stand. this photograph looks to me like it happened on that taxi side, on the aircraft side of the airport which is a whole different ball of wax. if somebody gets a gun through security and into the area where the aircraft come and go, that is a very frightening prospect. >> jenna: very good point, we still don't know. here is what we are hearing from officials on the ground now through our affiliate wsvn saying that the shooting took place in the lower level baggage claim area in terminal 2 and that the shooting did take place at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. there was an active shooter call at one point, but they said almost immediately, it seems according to the timeline that a suspect is in custody order was in custody. we don't have any information if there was more than one shooter but there is a suspect in custody. they have clear the terminal around a4 and b5 near the north side of the airport, passengers and airport employees have been cleared out from the area so there is some movement at the

airport which is good news for those that are stranded there, wondering what is happening next. >> jon: michael balboni is a frequent guest on our program, he was just here the other day. former new york homeland security chairman, he joins us now on the phone. michael, every airport in the country is prepared to deal with the sound of shots fired. tell us what happens when something like this erupts? >> the hardest thing to do obviously is to pinpoint exactly where the incident is taking place, who was involved in the incident, and the individuals who are perpetrating this, what is their capability? we have to try to understand what the threat is as it happens. such a difficult thing to do and any type of facility with lots of people, particularly difficult in an airport because, as we all know, we have such protection on the air side, but when you come into the terminal itself, that is very much less protected from the standpoint of

yes, there are guards and different security personnel, but not the same way peer you do not have a sterile area, so that is one of the real challenges when you come into that airport as we saw in brussels, in turkey. these are places that we always have to make sure we are looking out not just end, so that when it happens spontaneously without notice, that is when you really have to lock it down as fast as you can. >> jon: obviously, the spillover effects of this could be essentially a stampede. some people could be hurt or killed just trying to get away from the sound of the gunshots. >> you are absolutely right here this day and age, people understand that a threat can occur at any time. they are attuned to that as we saw in jfk that recently happened when there was supposed advance of shots fired, and people just went crazy. and you had police officers running as well because nobody can get the information

accurately fast enough to stop to say, it is okay, you are safe or move to this area. it is very, very difficult in a short period of time that these things always take to get the right information out in real-time to everybody. >> jon: we mentioned the shots were reported to have taken place between terminals 2 and 3, but from everything we can see from the air, it sure looks like virtually the entire airport is to shut down. it is going to be very hard for the tower and others to get planes in and out of there, especially with the large number of people who are out on the tarmac right now. they've got some kind of a police escort, it would seem peer you can see a vehicle there that looks like some sort of a police car. now they are moving and buses, and perhaps that is how they will bring people back into the terminal building. when those shots were fired, people apparently bolted through the exits and got out on the tarmac, and it is going to take

tsa and airport police a long time to sweep that tarmac area and make sure that everything is on the up and up. this is going to be an hour long job, maybe even the rest of the day, michael. >> absolutely right, and it will be very difficult for the air traffic controllers to be able to handle the incoming flights, particularly if they are going to the same area as the terminal because they now have to sweep the terminal itself to make sure that sterile area has been reconstituted and to make sure there is no other threat out there. diversion of flight is very likely, for how long is anybody's question, but you are absolutely right. they will have to sweep all the areas. >> jon: inbound flights likely being sent to west palm beach and miami right now because if, in fact, they have a hold on flight operations. >> jenna: you are probably very familiar with the sheriffs office down in florida, having worked down there. we are getting some of our first numbers coming from law

enforcement as far as how many people have actually been shot. we reported a few of the different numbers we have seen. the initial numbers were five people shot, we don't still have any sort of information as far as their condition peer that number went up to nine, but according to the sheriffs office, telling wsvn there is at least six shooting victims at fort lauderdale airport. again, according to the information we have, although the airport has still put on social media this is an ongoing situation, we do have another report that their shooter is in custody or is contained. that is where we are, half an hour after the news broke. what you're seeing on your screen is what has transpired since the shooting. you have some law enforcement and medical services responding peer looks like they are treating someone right in the middle of our screen there, we cannot be close enough to know exactly what happened there. michael boyd is joining us on the phone, aviation security analyst. just curious of your thoughts,

your expertise on this particular topic. when you see something like this, what goes through your mind? >> the problem with the tsa, we have no contingency plan whatsoever here we saw at kennedy, we see it here. if there is a problem at terminal a, we don't know what to do with terminal b, so what we really have is a situation where we just don't have a plan when something goes wrong, no remediation. >> jenna: that is a scary thought. >> they just do not know what they are doing, so we run in all directions out on the tarmac. >> jenna: that is indeed what has happened, and we don't really know at this time -- it appears the shooting took place in the baggage claim, so it was not past the tsa. as far as looking chaotic, michael, that is probably a fair point. if you have people on the runway, we are actually seeing planes land, they are being allowed to land on the tarmac.

it could potentially be a dangerous situation all around, not just from the initial incident, but from what is happening at this very moment. >> the other problem is when you have people evacuate without knowing where they are going, they pool pull up somewhere ana great target for more terrorist peer the tsa is a joke. that has to be said. they should have a clear plan when something goes wrong. they don't. all they do is look for pointy objects and more than 3 ounces of liquid. >> jenna: there is plenty of room for debate on the value of the tsa. we don't know how that relates to the story at this time. thank you very much. we are going to turn back to the news to reset here, i am sure you are familiar with this airport, your time spent in florida, fairly big and a fair amount of passengers. >> jon: both fort lauderdale and miami have really grown in size tremendously over the last 20-30 years. fort lauderdale was a very sleepy airport when i was living and working down there more than 20 years ago, 25 years ago now.

they went through a major upgrade, and it is now, as you pointed out earlier, the 23rd busiest airport in the united states. again, that airport is going to severely have to curtail flight operations today, and that is going to have somewhat of a ripple effect with people all across the country. our colleagues at foxnews.com are reporting that one person has been killed, and as many as nine injured as a result of this shooting. but what the motivation was, we still don't know. there have been a number of airport shooting incidents we have had to report over recent years. whether this is some kind of beef between a couple of enemies or whether it is something more than that, some kind of terror attack, we do not know. i just want to emphasize that. it is wide open at this point. >> jenna: quickly, i want to mention the language i see that is slightly shifting. according to our affiliate wsvn,

we've been saying a shooting at the airport, now it is being referred to a shooting that happened outside the airport inside the baggage claim area, so just want to point that out. again, as soon as we zero in, we still don't know if the shooting was on the sidewalk outside the baggage claim or inside the doors, still unclear and i want to make sure our viewers know that. >> jon: one of our frequent guest is pat bronson, former police detective who is actually outside fort lauderdale right now. i just want to be clear on this, are you at the airport there? >> no, actually, good afternoon, jon. our office in florida is just a couple miles from the airport, so i am actually quite close to the airport. just an unbelievable incident. i know it is very premature in terms of actual facts that have been established, but it is astonishing. also the fact that ari fleischer evidently was one of the first tweets that came out. we picked it up and our

operations center in new york. we got some tweets little bit ago before it even broke, so there is a lot of social media, as usual, as to be expected, streaming and in relation to the shooting. >> jon: as jenna pointed out, the new communications medium, and in a breaking news situation like this, it can be very useful. ari fleischer very familiar to people as a frequent rest on fox, former spokesman for president bush, bush 43, he now lives in suburban new york and travels quite a bit on a number of business ventures. he is fair at fort lauderdale airport and was one of the first, as you point out, to file a report of the shooting. they are moving people, it would appear. they have several hundred people who fled apparently terminal 2, they are out there on the tarmac. it appears they are getting ready to put them on buses to take them back to the airport and run them all through the scanners again, i am sure.

do they do more than that? if you were in charge of this operation, would you give these people a light pat down or interrogation or just run them through the magnet, what do you do? >> that is an extra ordinary question and extra ordinarily complex. the airport as you pointed out earlier, that is tremendously expanded and capacity. tremendous international hub capabilities they are. i really don't know. without knowing the facts, as you touched earlier, was it a beef between two individuals, was it gang-related, was it what most people in america are expecting when they hear airport gunfire and fatalities, is this terrorist related? i don't know. i would imagine that the police and federal and other statement decibel law enforcement folks are trying to contain the

situation in terms of providing parameters for passing through and identify what is going on. right now, and i have some pretty deep contacts in those agencies, texting back and forth with them, this is really covered in the cloud and the fog of a major incident. you see it all the time, but it is compounded because of the capacity and volume at the airport. the answer is a resounding i don't know. >> jon: the motives can vary. remember, there was that shooting of a tsa agent ad, i believe, the los angeles airport. the shooter and that place just convicted not too long ago of first degree murder. again, whether it could be a gang thing, could be just a beef, but when it takes a public place like this, it obviously draws an awful lot of attention and causes an awful lot of inconvenience and mayhem for the people on the ground. >> jenna: we are relying on our affiliate that is providing

the live images you are seeing. it looks like passengers are heading at least in one direction before, they were just standing on the tarmac and were wondering are they getting any direction from law enforcement? it appears there is some movement. want to point out reports in the area say that as of about half an hour ago, fights were still arriving for departure. the airport was still in some way fully functioning. we did see a plane land. on the one hand, there is going to be distractions, could be national as jon points out, big jetblue hub so if you are flying jetblue today, you might want to check ahead, travelers in fact are advised to check and if you're going to fort lauderdale airport of course. what you are saying, we are getting the information as it enters the newsroom right now as far as the response from medical personnel. we know a handful of people are injured, the numbers have varied. we do note that according to the report in the area, there is a suspect in custody. the big question is this still an ongoing incident as far as danger, or where are we?

we are looking for a little bit more clarity on that. >> jon: tom blanke is joining us now, former tsa deputy director, transportation security administration. they are obviously going to play a big role in what happens from here on out in the investigation here. tom, talk a little bit about how tsa agents are trained to respond in a situation like this. >> first of all, it is a tragic situation. i am sure tsa sends its sympathy to anybody that has been injured. i shouldn't say this is an integrated response. it may look chaotic, but the fact is that every commercial airport operates under an airport security program that is integrated with tsa and its law enforcement assets with local first responders, and airport police. an active shooter situation will have been gamed outcome of

responsibilities determined and divided, in the response will be initially a couple things. one, the perimeter of the airport will be where no one can get an end no one can leave. second, they will attempt to isolate sections of the airport where the incident is occurring so that it may not spread and will allow them to assess the risk that other sections of the airport to see whether this was an integrated or coordinated. and the area that has been affected, where the act has taken place, the coordinated law enforcement response will go in there and attempt to isolate and capture and deal with the individual that has caused the security breach and shock people. >> jon: we are looking at a knot of about 200-300 people out there on the tarmac, stuck waiting. i am wondering, would it have been tsa policy at the sound of

gunshots to essentially open the door and let them go out or did someone just bolt and everyone else followed them? >> likely not. likely not tsa policy, this would have been an immediate panic type reaction that would be different and difficult to anticipate and has to be understood that various sections of the airport have various areas of security. they have an open environment, not much security environment, the checkpoints were tsa operates looking at passengers, baggage areas look at baggage, and yet again, there are different security standards for the tarmac whereas passengers are not intended to be located. in this instance, they will attempt to take control of the crowd. again isolate them, putting them on buses, and moving them into

another area of the terminal, evaluating whether any of them pose a risk, attempt to rescreen them, support the booking of them and send them on their way. >> jenna: great to have your expertise as we are getting in some new information into our newsroom about the incident. according to the office manager at the fort lauderdale airport, public information officer which makes her opinion more important, she is confirming to fox news that the situation has been resolved. that is her word at this time peewee still cannot confirm for our viewer whether or not they shooter is in custody, contain or whether that shooter is alive or dead. we really don't know. we also don't know the extent of the injury. we are seeing numbers very fluid, initially five people injured, then six, as high as nine, we have not seen numbers higher than that but we have not got confirmation. the only confirmation we have seen through our affiliate at the sheriffs office was the number of six people injured in this incident. that is where we are at right now.

she would not elaborate, the public information officer, as to what she means by saying the situation is resolved, but we can clearly see there has been movement on the screen. i want to go back to a point you were making as far as the security at the airport because we see the response from medical personnel and law enforcement. if an incident is happening on the sidewalk outside of baggage claim, who is responsible for security there? is that still the tsa or the local law enforcement, how does that work? >> it is a combination, and under federal law, each airport is required to have an airport security program which is drawn up and overseen by the tsa, usually administered by the federal security director at each airport. >> jenna: can i interrupt? i apologize. i want to let you finish your thought but we got new information i think our viewers need to know. >> jon: the sheriff's office in broward county where the airport is based is reporting

now that three people are dead. others have been injured. the suspect, we are told, is in custody pair that is the good news. so things can perhaps start heading toward a state of normalcy but when you have three homicides at the airport and others shot, multiple others shot, it's going to be sometime before fort lauderdale hollywood international airport gets back to normal. >> jenna: because of that information, the story will change. initial reports are often misleading, now we have confirmation from the sheriff which goes to the point you were making. we still do not know the precise area. if this happened on the sidewalk, how do you coordinate who takes the lead, who even should the media be relying on for information? it seems rather confusing. >> to answer your original question, each airport,

commercial airport under its air force security program, they have a little different approach depending on who the local jurisdiction signs to be responsive in an active shooter situation, is there airport police dedicated, our local police under a response time frame, who is responsible for emergency and medical assistanc assistance? with tsa and these other local assets, sometimes estate assets, they will devise a plan of how to handle an active shooter situation and who is going to do what, no matter where it occurs inside the airport perimeter. exactly who does what is going to vary from airport to airport for a variety of local jurisdiction reasons. almost assuredly in this case, there is a joint operations command response center that is swung into action.

they started the coordination process between tsa and other first responding organizations that would have implemented procedures agreed to and probably rehearsed ahead of time and practice, whether it was on the runway area, inside the terminal, in the concourse, aboard the plane or in a more public areas such as the baggage claim or outside the airport. >> jenna: i want to be kept for our viewers pay thank you very much, we will go back to you and just a moment. what we have learned in the last few minutes is significant. we want to recap for everyone where we are added. around 1:00 p.m. eastern time, reports of shots fired at fort lauderdale airport. there was initially a report there was an active shooter situation, that was confirmed through our affiliate and it came in around 1:00 p.m. eastern. according to the timeline of what we know so far, again relying on the local reports,

the shooter was in custody or contained very quickly, but we are just learning about injuries and deaths, and according to the broward sheriff's office in the area, there are multiple people dead. a shooter is in custody, according to the information that we have, and we are seeing that some people that were out on the tarmac are being moved, at least away from the middle of the tarmac which was where most were standing. ari fleischer, former white house spokesperson is at fort lauderdale airport number relying a little bit on his information on social media. he was expanding through his twitter account that there were the sounds of shots fired and that people just started running. he also mentioned that in about 20 minutes, it seemed like the situation was over and that they were just being told to stay where they are. there was obviously some confusion, but again according to what we know, here we are about 50 minutes since the incident began. there seems to be a little bit

more information, at least some confirmation that this is not an active, ongoing incident, still when we are learning quite a bit about, jon. >> jon: the information is coming into us now. shepard smith is on the fox news deck for us now and has some more information. >> thank you. extraordinarily well organized on the ground there. media center now to set up between terminals 2 and 3 at fort lauderdale hollywood international airport where they are getting lots of information to folks. it seems that since 1:00, the last 51 minutes, they have really done quite an astounding job of moving people around during all of this pre-latest numbers we have, nine injured, multiple dead, suspect in custody. the airport is contained, the airport is now safe, according to authorities. they are working to reestablish eight flight pattern with takeoffs landing. the mayor of the county of broward, broward carol dumas county, the sheriff's

office on the scene along with the feds, and the mayor of broward county has said they are working to reestablish flight operations and they think that will take another 2-3 hours. but the immediate danger is over. there are some discrepancies on where this happened. there are multiple reports that happen inside the baggage area which at fort lauderdale is on the lower level of the long driveway just alongside of it, very easy access. one thing people in south florida will tell you is if you can choose between the airports down there, fort lauderdale is most often the easier, most user-friendly one there. they've done a lot of renovations lately especially n-terminal 2, very easy to deal with baggage hamming a very easy to get in and out. security there is good, so they report that the shooting happened inside the baggage area, others say that it happened outside the baggage area. there is evidence to suggest maybe it was both.

we are waiting for the broward sheriff's office to let us know but we have pictures on twitter of a man badly bleeding outside the terminal just around the corner just where there is the smoking area and the place to walk your dog on the end, he was around the end of terminal to around baggage claim, badly bleeding on the side of a wall and then what was what appeared to be other injuries inside the baggage area. see the man with the k-9 here, they are clearing the area and making sure that there is nothing else there, but they have the suspect in custody. early word from our hollywood and miami affiliates which is wsvn, the news station in south florida, they are reporting that the man is in custody. there are various reports he may be dead. we don't have that or know that. in fact, it is our belief as of reporting at this moment that authorities have been able to talk to him. think about this. normally when you have a suspect in custody come you have to read

miranda rights come away for a lawyer and all of that. not in the case of an ongoing event. because this man was involved in a shooting, the authorities don't have any way to know whether there are other shooters, if there is someone who was going to carry him away that may have been active in this. they are allowed to question him at length. about what his motivations were, whether there are others who were involved, and the authorities have come to the conclusion, it would appear, there is no one else involved. this is a live picture as you can see, good news too. they moved so many people out of all of the gate areas. they practice this kind of event, mass casualty or shooting all the time, and one of the things you do -- these are people with their carry-on luggage, sent everyone onto the tarmac because the danger is inside. now the danger has passed, they are in the pen area, this is the stairway where you have bags too big for the overhead, put it there then take it down to the plane, that is these stairs. or they can service the

plaintiff the jetway is not working but all these passengers headed off somewhere, making their way back to the terminal which is just more evidence the situation is over. not to diminish it in any way. certainly this has been a horrible event at fort lauderdale hollywood airport. the investigation is just beginning. broward sheriff's office tells us there a multiple dead, the first report was one person dead. then there was a report of three dead now broward sheriff's office telling us multiple people are dead. they pan across the airport, strange thing to see. these southwest jets right there in the corner waiting, looks like a delta jet, some other more on hold. there are 30 airlines that serviced the airport. it is one of the top 25 largest in the country. we have some amateur video that we have just gotten in. this is that area i was talking about a little while ago, we have a twitter picture from here. the reality of this thing is

ugly indeed. you can see this in particular, not the same place, this is right off the jetway, you can see the secure area there, in this video is new to me. it is amateur video. that is a waiting area upstairs, so it appears someone broke out their cell phone and started recording what was happening, below you can see somebody. they have been horribly injured there. we don't have any idea -- everyone wants to know, what was this about? we don't know. it could have been any number of things. we have no reports of their shooter saying anything at all. we don't have those details yet. nothing to suggest any motivation at all. this is just some crazy person or somebody with an ax to grind, it could be a domestic bank that spilled over, we don't know. we will know soon enough. the authorities tell us the great news is everything is clear. there is no danger to anyone else. authorities seem convinced their shooter acted alone.

emts are there from broward fire rescue. i guess you can see it there. wsvn, the new station in south florida which is foxed for fort lauderdale hollywood area is now reporting five people have died. in this shooting at fort lauderdale hollywood. security for ime international airport also en route, miami international airport about 35 miles, 35 minutes at least south on i-95. fort lauderdale hollywood just off it, and five people dead. you have to wonder, imagine standing in there, all of a sudden, some crazy person is shooting up the baggage handling area. the security talk will begin again. how far do you extend the security? if you decide, baggage claim is going to beat the secure area, that makes assistance with luggage and the rest very difficult for arriving passengers. the decision had been made previously in the united states

that baggage areas will not be made secure, they are not in any airport in the country that i am aware of. there are no regulations for that kind of thing, but it is something that has been discussed in the wake of tragedies, moments like this, do you make that part of security? if you do make it part of security, then the possibility for the incident just moves further, so how far do you take it? we have traveled many times and overseas airports especially in the middle east or north africa where you get this search that begins as you drive onto the property. the tel aviv airport is another one, but how far do you back it up? that will be a matter of discussion now. for the moment, we are waiting to find out who the shooter is, what the shooter condition is, who the victims are, and what their situations are. broward sheriff's office very, very good with media information. they have already set up a immediate area between those two

terminals, people on the scene working to get information as quickly as we can but the one thing you don't want to do is get ahead of this. we know we have a horrible scene at fort lauderdale airport, multiple people dead, multiple people injured and a shooter and custody. this happen at 1:00 eastern time this afternoon. not a particularly busy time of day at that airport. vague and coming is in the morning, and this is an airport with some stopovers as well. busy or in the morning then in the late afternoon and evening, still as you can see, hundreds if not thousands of people where they are as terminal 2 is a very busy one for this airport. i mention it is a top 25 airport in the very user friendly a scene at 1:00, of bedlam. it appears that they got it all calmed down very quickly, though. and with extremely organized, by all accounts. the pictures tell part of that story.

i want to pause as viewers from across the nation on the fox broadcast network and my television network join us for our coverage. continuing coverage have a shooting which happened one hour ago, foerpt lauderdale-hollywood airport in florida.rt lauderdal airport in florida. 2:00 on the east coast, 1:00 on the west coast, this is the sheppard report. a lone gunman arrived, began shooting at fort lauderdale international airport at 11:00. some independent kapt he was inside the baggage handling area, some indicate he was outside the baggage handling area. it's possible it was both. we're waiting for message from authorities. initial information from the broward county mayor was that as many as nine people were injured. that the airport is secured and it is. but they believe there is no other shooter. that there was no one else involved. we don't know how they know that.