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>> we are getting word there is a meeting tonight on what to do about tax cuts that will feature speaker ryan. jared kushner will be there representing his father-in-law. they are going to get into the nuts and bolts of a plan. we will see tomorrow. >> hello, i am greg gutfeld with guilfoyle, juan williams and dana perino. "the five" ." the golden globes have it all, if by all you made self-pity, cleavage, and lame and they trump jokes. >> this is the golden globes, one of the few places left where america still honors the popular vote. game of thrones is nominated. the show has so many plot twists and shocking moment, a lot of people would have wondered what it would've been like if king joffrey had lived. in 12 days, we will find out.
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>> i will be able to say i won this at the last ever golden globes. it has the words hollywood, foreign, and press and the title. this may be the last one. to some republicans, even the word association is sketchy. >> that's groundbreaking stuff. i get it. humor is the best therapy for broken emotionally fragile millionaires. their wine should not surprise us. it's like going to a county fair and being bothered by the smell of manure. meryl streep nailed it when she said everyone in the room, they are the most vilified segments in american society. yes, they are the victims, the deplorable's. who is vilifying them really? a few faint voices on the right? this is where hollywood lets it slip show, revealing their tone
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deafness. they select themselves for the moral high ground which seemed immoral given they strive to divide by saying this. >> hollywood is crawling with outsiders and foreigners. if you kick them all out, you'll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts. >> it says arts. mixed martial arts! >> oh, my god. >> trump wasn't trying to deplore -- all the drug dealers in l.a. will still deliver. they will be safe. it's the jab at mma that sucks. mixed martial arts is an art. it's in the title. the fists flying from all over the place. football and mma were proxies for a certain america she was mocking. after she did this, after knocking mma, the globes celebrate the 40th birthday of
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rocky. was that about opera? and then she bashes trump. trump tweets back. the whole mess shows both sides of the argument. in movie terms, this is the trailer for the next four years. >> can't wait. >> i know. i can't wait. what did we expect? it could have been worse. >> the show or meryl streep? >> i'm a big jimmy fallon fan but i think he flopped. he had every single celebrity in the world. last night, who stole the show? steve carroll. fantastic. >> getting to meryl streep, i
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agree but -- when did trump suggest kicking people out who were working with visas? what she did last night, meryl streep, she took the hillary moment. she doubled down on the deplorables moments. 15 million people every single weekend, hundreds of games, they watch football. i'm not sure about the mma audiences. the audience for football and the revenues for football outpace anything going on in hollywood. kimberly, 2003. good to see you. >> nice to see you. >> she is going after tom's behavior and saying this begets other behavior. she gave a standing o to roman polanski at the oscars in 2003 when he won for "the pianist." there's a level of hypocrisy in the sense that they are okay with their behavior but they go after everybody else. >> it's not a level.
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it's complete. it's utter hypocrisy. nobody wants to be preached to. she has now officially ruined "mama mia" for me. a little bit of nerve getting up, preaching. putting down over half the country and saying it's really inappropriate, i think. i don't think she's made herself any new fans. may be some hollywood elite was tickled pink. pink on purpose. not so smooth. great actress. she should stick to that. >> she's a fine actress. we will not say she is not. >> wait. donald trump said she is not. he said she's overrated. >> that is his go to. every time he gets ticked off, he says overrated. >> she's great. >> he should have said "you are no glenn close." that would have gotten under her
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skin. >> i think she is a great actress. the idea that he decides he needs to respond was curious to me. this was like last week when he was responding to schwarzenegger on "the apprentice." it's kind of bizarre. i do agree with you. it looked so self-serving when hollywood gets together and decides they have some political steak. i will make one point in her defense. i didn't think anything she said was wrong. he did go after a disabled reporter and mocked him, and that's not attractive. >> it happened a year ago. he won the election. a lot of us were upset about it but, you know, we had to move on. president obama made fun of the special olympics too? remember that? bowling. >> it's different. >> dana, what was your favorite part? >> york tweets. i was out last night so i wasn't watching the show.
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the packers were on in the restaurant. i was following your tweets. >> his get better as the night goes on. >> i have to check myself. i don't want to get too drunk. if there is such a thing. 2020, could it be meryl streep. >> i do think they will try to see about running somebody from hollywood. i think they are going to not understand the election. we need star power, right? that's why my prediction about al franken wanting to set himself up to take on donald trump is accurate. i thought last night was utterly predictable. it would be interesting if at some point either side would play against type. either not react or say meryl streep, you are a great actress. no one is being kicked out if they have a legal visa. look forward to working with you on the problems of america. if donald trump had done that, it would have taken the wind out of her sails. instead, america is such a blast, rich country that we
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spend an entire day talking about this. >> did you see mel gibson? this is so great because it was during the speech. are we the only people here? >> they might have been. >> this is a conservative table. there's four people. >> while all the speeches, and talking down to middle america, it on every single one of those tables, there was a shot of the champagne and the filet mignon. it's rich to say -- >> that they don't eat. >> how many hundreds of millions of dollars were being spent on the show to glorify themselves? pat themselves on the back? >> because they are very fancy and special. they have to tell the rest of us want to think and how to act and how to behave because we just can't help ourselves. we just don't know any better. >> you don't drink bubbly.
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>> that's true. >> why are you attacking me? >> taking a dig. >> you are attacking middle america when you attack me. >> we can hug it out later. >> there's an upside. let's go to the tape of meryl streep talking about how the press has to do their job, i guess, after eight years of not doing their job. >> we need the principled press to hold power to account, to call them on the carpet for every outrage. that's why our founders founders enshrined the press and its freedoms and our constitution. i only ask the famously well-heeled hollywood foreign press and all of us in our community to join me in supporting the committee to protect journalists. we are going to need them going forward, and they will need us
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to. -- to safeguard the truth. >> she is calling for the protection of the press. we know that when they go on these trips for movies they sometimes get indigestion from all the free food. the goody bags are so heavy. what about the press during the obama administration? >> i think people felt he was held to the fire. i know we did around here. the point is that in those circles, hollywood, they loved obama. i don't think they were as critical of obama as they would like to see the press now being critical of trump. i don't think anything she said is wrong. i think it's good to have a press that holds powerful people accountable. >> it's about time. >> to your point, the critical differences someone who was solidly on the right, i don't even know if donald trump is solidly on the right, but someone who is not in their click in terms --
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>> he is held accountable. he gets hit hard across the board. >> when he said he could walk down fifth avenue and shoot somebody and get away with it, so far, doesn't matter what he does. >> you have these people talking about hollywood and how women are getting the chance to do this and do that. all i saw was cleavage. they objectify women. i think we have pictures. maybe we don't. >> is that called for? >> it was, originally. every shot of every woman was showing everything. i'm going, they talk about us objectifying women. they are the kings and queens of objectifying women. i guess they are not showing it. this is mandy moore. i wear that when i go swimming. >> this, so you know, it's the style right now. it will pass. >> well, i am disgusted by it.
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>> the deplorables have weighed in. >> not a single burqa on the red carpet. i think that's wrong. coming up, the suspected gunman in the florida airport rampage appeared in court today. new details about his past. dale. dale! oh, hey, rob. what's with the minivan? it's not mine. i don't -- dale, honey, is your tummy still hurting, or are you feeling better to ride in the front seat? oh! is this one of your motorcycling friends? hey, chin up there, dale.
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>> new developments in the deadly shooting rampage at the fort lauderdale airport. the suspect made his first court appearance today. esteban santiago faces three federal charges, two of them carry the death penalty if convicted. he did not say anything about his alleged motive or why he came to south florida. this is chilling surveillance video. this image from the video
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obtained by tmz appears to show santiago at the bottom corner of your screen, firing a gun at multiple passengers. very distressing to see this footage. imagine the sheer terror and panic going to the people there and family members as you gather at a place you think you're going to be safe. >> this is hopefully the last thing on your mind, something like this. as i came to the airport this weekend, i thought about it this morning. i thought about how much courage it took for those people to know what to do right away and how their lives will never be the same because they'll always remember that moment. god bless the people that are suffering today in terms of their grief of the people that were killed. we understand there are still eight wounded. three in critical condition. the thing i thought about this weekend was that remember on "60 minutes," james comey, the fbi director did an interview and he said we have open
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investigations with isis-related ties in all 50 states, even alaska. one of the things he said to 60 minutes. obviously we don't know if this was one of them but it's interesting when you have not a lot of detail yet but you know he went to the fbi. you know he said the government is trying to control me and they are making me watch isis videos. there is a psychological evaluation. he is not adjudicated in the court, gets his gun back. it's amazing to me that he planned this whole thing to buy a ticket, fly from alaska through minneapolis to carry out something that he hatched in alaska. seems to me that it is certainly not spontaneous. this was premeditated. >> premeditated. there is specific intent to commit this crime with thought and deliberation about what he was going to do and how he was going to achieve it. when phil keating was on giving us reports, i asked him. brought up the past criminal record and that he was given a
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deferred prosecution, probation. instead of conviction. this enabled him to get his gun back. why did this guy have a gun when the has this criminal content? >> i loop all needs -- a loophole needs to be closed when someone walks in and fbi field office and says i have an inclination to watch isis propaganda. i think he should be -- pull his right, privilege to carry a firearm. put them on a no-fly list. it seems very simple. you talk about a needle in a haystack. the needle is this big in the haystack is this big. it's scary what can happen. how many soft targets we have and how easy it was for this credible this off. >> there should be some kind of
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suspension. make sure fitness and mental health, stability. all the pieces were there. >> almost begging to be taken in into some sort of observation. >> yeah, i mean, this just is not the system working well when you see something like this. >> they did take him in. the fbi got the local police who took him in for a mental evaluation, but he was not designated as somehow damaged. therefore not eligible to have a gun. for me, as someone who thinks we need more gun control, i would say of course that person shouldn't be allowed to have a gun. i think the people in the other side of the fence would take so in other words, the government is going to decide whether i'm mentally capable and sufficiently able to carry a gun around? >> i think it's not the government. the doctor. >> the doctor may work for the government. >> conservatives will agree with
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that if someone is deemed incapable or shouldn't be carrying a firearm. >> i'm all for it but i know that we can imagine the kind of paralyzing "make no progress" conversation. 2015, 2600 guns fountain carry-on luggage which was a 20% jump from the year earlier. people think it's okay. it's cool to carry a gun on an airplane. that is tremendously dangerous. >> go ahead. >> according to john lot, 50% of mass shootings, the killers were getting mental health treatment. they got through. lot points out florida is 1 of 6 states to ban guns in airports. if the needles get through, it's up to us to stop the needles. you should be able to carry. there was a segment where they created a timeline linking these mass shootings to military
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service. they went back 20 years to find these things. they grouped the shooters together based on military service and it included the fort hood terrorist. it wasn't his military background that caused him to kill those people. he was a muslim. he was an islamist. he was a radical extremist. i don't think nbc would have done the same segment tying all of the shooters to islamism. they did it with the military. the reason why they did it, they are fearful of being labeled islamaphobic. they have no problem being labeled antimilitary. >> they don't worry about sigma against returning military. there's not a connection between ptsd sufferers and violence, that they can draw a complete connection to. >> do you think you should get the death penalty? i hear that if he pleads guilty he can't get the death penalty. it's almost unheard of. that's very curious.
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the feds are going to charge hi him. >> plea bargains are very routine. >> involuntary institutionalization is the solution. >> odds are, if he pleads, he never gets the death penalty. >> if he pleads, he pleads to a life without possibility. >> no death penalty. when we return, only 11 days until the inauguration. it appears president-elect trump's first real fights are about to begin. a closer look at this week's cabinet confirmation hearings. coming up next. you know, geico can help you save money on your homeowners insurance too? great! geico can help insure our mountain chalet! how long have we been sawing this log? um, one hundred and fourteen years. man i thought my arm would be a lot more jacked by now.
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while some democrats are promising a tough fight. mr. trump is expressing optimism about his cabinet choices. >> they are going great. confirmation's going great. i think they'll all pass. i think every nomination will be -- they are at the highest level. jack was even saying they are the absolute highest level. i think they are going to do very well. >> jeff sessions. >> i think he's going to do great. high-quality man. >> the senate majority and minority leaders are already butting heads. >> these procedural complaints are related to their frustration and having not only lost the white house but having lost the senate. i understand that, but we need to sort of grew up here and get past that. we need to have the president's national security team in place on day one, and papers are still coming in. i'm optimistic that will be able to get up to seven nominees on day one. >> spend an extra day or two on each nominee, even if it takes a
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few weeks to get through them all in order to carefully consider their nominations, that is well worth it. it is only fair that they are given a thorough and thoughtful vetting. >> expect some political theater that hamilton on broadway will be proud of. democrats huffing and puffing but not enough wind power. personally for the sake of a smooth transition, shows the world we are united, the united states of america. how can the democrats move these appointments through? defense, state, homeland security, and cia. what about that? the important defense and security positions. we will worry about some of the other more controversial picks. >> that's the argument coming from the trump people. you need the security in place. the question is, and this is the pressure coming from the other direction, eric, there are a
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number of nominees who have not found their papers. you get the guy who runs i think it's the office of ethics. saying hey, this is unprecedented. they haven't given us the papers. we are under siege to try to get these people through quickly but we don't have the information. we know there's lots of opportunities here for conflict of interest. most of them are millionaires and billionaires. >> dano. they were gutting the office of government ethics and donald trump said don't got that. now the democrats are saying let's get this. >> no, it's different. the office of government ethics is for the federal government. what you are talking about is that the house, there's a special committee that was separate and it was just for house members. totally separate. i do think rex tillerson is probably going to wow them. i think he will show himself to be quite a diplomat. there's some really good support for him across the board.
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i heard a great story about how when he was the head of the boy scouts he was able to negotiate to make sure that there wasn't a split in the boy scouts. there was controversy a few years ago. i think he will surprise and win over some of the skeptics. one of the questions i think republicans should definitely ask all of these nominees is how they might try to restrain their power. how might you try to return power and decision-making to individuals or states? so that they are not trying to increase their kingdoms but they are trying to strategize how to get power back to the people. >> are the republicans being fair saying move these through. did we give obama a hard time? 's to go i don't remember it being that hard of a time but a lot has happened since then. i don't have much long-term memory. >> or short-term. >> short term. this is a delicate dance. you don't want to over dog the underdog. if you go hard it one of these people, you will turn them into a victim. if you go at them, the audience
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will start liking that person. you've got to be balanced when you're questioning. but i would never want to be interviewed. it's a public job interview and you never know what they are going to bring up. they could pull the worst thing ever, like a picture from your past. like, i don't remember when that happens. >> i think 99% of his picks will sail confirmation. i think they are talented, qualified. i think probably rex tillerson will have a bit of a tough time in terms of the democrats trying to go after him. i think he will withstand scrutiny and be extremely well prepared. >> the kind of guy you want around. >> people are going to ask him about his ties to russia and putin. they are going to ask people, the guy wants to run label trickle labor, he says he's opposed to hiking the minimum wage. the guy who wants to run the ep
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[laughter] >> hey, make a deal. >> tucker, before you tell us what's coming on the show, i was so amazed to see that rachel maddow sent you flowers. >> she did. we worked together a lifetime ago. we always got along. i don't agree with her politically. i haven't seen her show in a while but i am taking that on facebook it she's a nice person. she's also at 9:00. >> what are you doing tonight? >> glenn beck is opening the show. i haven't seen glenn beck in a long time. he had an interesting campaign year. he was on the road, as you know with the candidate, ted cruz, for months. i want to ask him about it and what he's learned. he seems to be going through a political rethinking. i'm always interested in that. i think that will be a compelling interview. >> one of the nicest pieces that was written about your 7:00 show was written by one of my
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colleagues, greg gutfeld. >> i'm always interested. tucker is the least neurotic person i know. he doesn't have a worry in the world. i see him wandering the streets, usually in sweatpants, chewing nicorette gum. it's embarrassing. i want to ask your question. when you are doing your show and having a meeting or whatever, are the things you say yourself "i'm not going to do"? segments or cliches. if you look at the cable news atmosphere and you go, i hate that, i'm never going to do that. i don't want to do that. you know what i mean? >> i don't want to criticize other people's shows. >> i want you to. >> no, not at all. there is something i'm not good at and that's interviewing panels. i feel like someone is being left out. you say i'm not neurotic. i have a very calm, stable life. but it makes me very anxious when i have two people on the set because i always feel like someone is being left out.
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i prefer to interview one person at a time. i don't know if it's better tv or worse tv but i am more comfortable with it. >> dana. tucker is a guy who, i think, has written that trump was not his first choice but he's not going to take on a key slot here at fox. >> i get home in time to watch the panel and i watch tucker. i've seen you talk about driverless vehicles, guns, air bnb. i also feel like you are the most curious person i've ever known. everything interests you. i wanted to pass on a compliment. >> that's my ignorance, by the way. >> bill kristol said you are -- one of the first jobs you had a journalism was writing. he said you are a helluva writer. we know that from following you. you spend most of your time
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communicative through television. what do you read. what's the most important thing you read in your life that helps you prepare for the show? >> by far the most important thing i do every day is have lunch. i have a long lunch every day. i'm serious. someone new every day. i have two hour lunches every day and i get up early to do that and i go to bed late to do that. i make that a priority because i want to talk to interesting people. i talk to someone today, a well-known liberal reporter, interesting person. had a great time and learned a lot. i never skip that. i always have a long lunch. >> eric bolling. >> an observation. it's amazing the niche you have carved out in a short. of time. you bring on someone, a liberal or educator who will say something provocative. it doesn't matter how small a venue. sometimes it's a provocative tweet. you will bring them on when you are so good at it. you eviscerate them. how do you keep getting them to come back on?
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>> we are booking nontraditional guests. we have the best bookers. that's one. i try to let them talk. sometimes they get frustrated and i start barking and i try to keep it under control. doesn't always work but i try to let the person say what he or she has to say. people figure well, i have to deal with this unpleasant guy on tv but i get my message out to a lot of people. maybe it's working. >> get ready to get in the penalty box with the toughest of the tough. kimberly guilfoyle. >> i see part of your fantastic show every week. i agree with eric bolling. i love the debate segment. it's so fascinating. last week when you did the debate about obamacare. that was great for the american people. i think it's a credit and testament to how you treat people, the questions you ask that you give them the time.
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and you are really giving back incredible value to the american people because they are hearing both sides of it, but you never lose your cool. you always have a very good sense of humor about aids. both sides -- a sense of humor about it. >> i have lost my cool a couple times. there is nothing worse than losing your cool on tv. i disagree with everyone i know, pretty much. so i am used to it. >> in an affable way. >> are you going to have the lady from teen vogue back? >> that's the time i lost my temper. >> tucker, thank you so much and good luck tonight. great to see you. >> thank you. >> coming up, across the world of sports we have seen professional athletes protest the national anthem but for the cowboys and the professional bull riders association, it's
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>> on friday night, kimberly and i put on our cowgirl hands and headed to madison square garden for the professional bull riders event, or pvr, as we call it. it's as american as you can get. they pray before the event and have implemented a pledge for every writer to stand for the national anthem. >> we grew up in the western industry and we are very proud of what america affords us. we saw some things going on that didn't really fit well with us and talking to the guys in the locker room. guys taking a knee on the national anthem. talking to the guys in the locker room, everyone was passionate about it. we got together and wrote a pledge and vowed that no matter what country were in and performing in, we're going to stand up and honor their flag on their country. we had the brazilians, their
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writers from mexico, australia. everyone signed it. a lot of the crew came in and asked if they could sign. it was a really big deal. it was cool. nice to see a group of guys so passionate about this country. >> that was your first pvr. did you love it? >> i loved it. once you go pbr, you never go back. >> the patriotism you, you could feel it. >> we are dealing with people putting down the country, this was patriotism and love of america and god and country all in one place. it was a wonderful experience. you arrange for us to be able to be there. the people we met were really incredible. >> faith, family, fun. >> great event. if you get a chance, bring your family out. come check out the bulls.
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it's amazing, the strength and size of these animals. they are also athletes. >> have you ever been to one, sb six? >> i have. there is a famous one in oregon. my daughter is a big fan of this. i am listening to you guys talk about honoring the flag and all that and thinking so there's country music and professional bull riding. that is a segment of an entertainment marketplace? >> like -- >> that claims to have the patriotic fervor. >> i think it's natural. >> i think other sports are patriotic. >> name one. >> football. >> how ironic. these guys are writing bowls and colin kaepernick is full of bull. >> when you get there and you
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are up close and personal, more on that tomorrow. you have such tremendous respect for what goes into this. they grew up. they are real cowboys, doing this since they were young boys. >> we will have the winner of the whole thing. we found out what his dietary regimen is. every day, he eats a certain thing. were going to tell you tomorrow. don't miss our show tomorrow night. we had a great time at the pbr. [vo] quickbooks introduces rodney.
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he knew, this is a mistake. >> i have no arms. >> i have no arms. i can't stop. i'm going to stare at kimberly while we go to dana. >> tomorrow were going to have bret baier. he has a new book out. "three days in january: dwight eisenhower's final mission." david eisenhower, the grandson of the former president, said it's the best book on eisenhower. best book written about a president to appear in a long time. accolades from tom brokaw. the book is out tomorrow. "three days in january." you will see him here on "the five" ." >> he didn't use my thing on the back? i said it was pretty good. i actually read the book. not like these people.
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kimberly is wearing something. >> this is not easy to balance this perfectly. also it's quite heavy. it's time for... kimberly's royal news. gave it away. i want to wish a very special happy birthday to the duchess. kate middleton is 35 years old. >> she can't hear you, kimberly. >> she celebrated privately with her kids, prince george and princess charlotte. books very nice. she's really sweet. you should give the royals a chance, greg. >> they don't need a chance. >> she attends her first public engagements of the new year on wednesday. this also was my secret santa present from juan williams. there you go. isn't that sweet? i can also balance a beer bottle and a beer.
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>> will do that tomorrow. >> i think we coined this term, a period of low wage growth, subpar gdp and americans who have left the workforce, we have call that obama onomics. >> keeping or creating about a million jobs in america. chrysler. we talked about ford, carrier, ibm. thousands of jobs, hundreds of thousands of jobs. multibillion dollars of investments in america. i'm going to go out early and call this one trump-onomics. >> low unemployment. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> as i would say, thanks, obama.
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one of america's great journalist died over the weeken weekend. best known as a jazz writer, passed away at the age of 91. he was named as a jazz master by the national endowment of the. what made him so special? he loved the constitution as much as he loved jazz. always willing to challenge the left and right when they were shutting down free speech, attacking political correctness among feminists, college students who didn't want to hear right wing people on their campus. nat hentoff was the winner of a lifetime achievement award and when he was asked what makes you tick? he would say rage. rage at all the people who don't want to hear something they don't agree with. nat hentoff, muzzle top. you are one of the best rates pick one of the great pro-lifers. set your dvr so you never miss
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an episode of "the five." that's it for us. "special report" with bret baier up next. >> bret: donald trump picks his son-in-law. this is "special report" ." coming to you tonight from fox news world headquarters in new york, welcome to a special two hour edition of "special report." i am bret baier. one thing is clear about president-elect donald trump. he is not afraid to stir up controversy. his latest pick for a major white house job is doing just that. it comes as senators prepare for hearings on some of trump's other.
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