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administration. don't miss "the first 100 days" posted by martha maccallum, special coverage airs weeknights at 7:00 p.m. eastern beginning this monday, right here on the fox news channel, fnc for the cool kids. speaking of cool kids, great to have you, brian kilmeade, we will see you monday at noon eastern. now "happening now." >> gregg: fox news alert, details breaking right now about inauguration day. >> jenna: chief justice john roberts will administer the oath of office to president-elect trump, and justice clarence thomas will administer the oath of office to vice president elect pence. we are covering all of the nearest "happening now." so even mr. president-elect, mr. president-elect, since you are attacking our news organization, can you give us a chance? can you give us a chance to ask a question, sir? >> jenna: that exchange between the president-elect and a reporter getting a whole lot of attention, but what does it really say about the likely relationship between media and
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the incoming trump administration? plus... >> as far as hacking, i think it was russian. >> jenna: how big of a role do these cyber breaches play in our daily lives? also, a winter storm on the move prompting a state of emergency in one estate, and now other states are in the path of danger. it is all "happening now." ♪ begin with the justice department investigation of its own fbi director admitted allegations of misconduct ahead of the presidential election. welcome to the second hour of "happening now." i am jenna lee. >> gregg: i'm gregg jarrett and for jon scott. fbi director james comey already under fire from democrats for his handling of the case surrounding hillary clinton's emails and her private server. they say his conduct cost her the election. now the justice department inspector general, supposed to be an independent entity, announcing a review of those
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accusations and, whether james comey, the bureau or even the department of justice followed procedures just one week before president-elect trump takes the oath of office. >> jenna: we have reaction from trump tower in new york city, we start with our chief washington correspondent, james? >> good afternoon. across official washington, reaction to the inspector general probe fell along familiar partisan lines. supporters of hillary clinton welcomed the probe because they believe that her loss, as clinton herself told democratic donors after the election, derived in large measure from the fbi director's conduct in the closing days of the campaign. at issue is james comey's decision to notify congress that the fbi was reopening its investigation into clinton's email server only to notify lawmakers nine days later, just 48 hours before the election, that he was closing the case again and standing by his decision not to seek a criminal prosecution of the former secretary of state. supporters of donald trump including the president-elect
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himself are casting the decision to launch this internal probe of the fbi in its somewhat limited scope as another effort by clinton supporters inside the federal government to tarnish mr. trump's electoral victory. in particular, conservatives note the inspector general will not be reviewing the conduct of attorney general loretta lynch he was forced effectively to recuse herself in the clinton email case when it surfaced that she had met privately with former president bill clinton. >> obviously, this inspector general investigation into director comey and the fbi's handling of the email investigation is calling into question whether there were political motivations and whether that might have impacted the outcome of the election. trump does not have good answers to these questions, so he is lashing out as he usually does. >> i do not want to impute any general conspiracy here, but it looks as if the democrats on their way out of the door are trying to leave behind as many
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landmines as they can to at least cast doubts on the legitimacy of the trump victory. >> white house press secretary josh earnest told reporters yesterday that the white house respecting the independence of the inspector general played no role in initiating the probe and otherwise declined to comment on it. >> jenna: thank you. >> gregg: in the meantime, president-elect donald trump lashing about all of this on twitter. peter is live with his reaction from trump tower in new york city. peter? >> the president-elect does not understand why democrats keep calling for investigations or probes like the one that james rosen just reported on. he treated this morning. "what are hillary clinton's people complaining about with respect to the f.b.i. based on the information they had she should never have been allowed to run - guilty as hell. they were very nice to her. she lost because she campaigned in the wrong states - no enthusiasm!"
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meanwhile on a conference call with reporters today, the transition team confirmed that incoming national security advisor retired lieutenant general michael flynn took a call from a russian ambassador the day before the obama initiation announced sanctions against the russian government and transition officials said the conversation was partly about setting up a different call later with president putin and mr. trump, that would have to happen after inauguration day p there also text messages between them wishing each other merry christmas, but transition officials are disputing reports that he broke any rules by communicating with the current administration after -- communicate with the ambassador after the current administration handed down sanctions p.a. they said there was no talk about policy changes that could be coming. president-elect does become the president of the united states a week from today, so a meeting today here at trump tower, one of the last of the transition, union leader was upstairs this morning and just a few minutes
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ago, the ceo of lockheed martin came downstairs, of course, she has been called out by the president-elect during the transition for having lockheed martin famously go over budget on the f35 project, she said they are close to a deal to bring the cost of the project way down, and to create several thousands of jobs across the country in the next few years. >> gregg: peter doocy outside trump tower, thank you. >> jenna: another big story we are walking, crippling ice storm creating dangers travel conditions in the nation's midsection, lease one person killed in missouri after their suv veered off the highway. more than 100 flights also canceled at the airport in st. louis for chief meteorologist rich wright with his and that weather center with a forecast, that is just the beginning of it. >> it is a long-duration event, we have had so much snow across parts of the west, some of the energy moving toward the central plains. when you have snow, four-wheel-drive can handle it but when there is ice, no vehicle can handle that including emergency responder
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vehicles so keep that in mind and once the power goes out, going to take a wild to get that back on because even the power companies will not be able to get out to put the power back on or help repair some of that. we already have it starting across central parts of missouri, and you can see this pink into the purple, that is the freezing rain. there is very cold air that is down here, settled in across the plains, warm air on top of that, so it falls as rain event at the bottom under the surface, it freezes upon contact. by the time we are done with this, because it is a long-duration event, saturday into sunday, even going into monday where we will be dealing with this, we are going to have some spots probably that see over an inch of ice accumulating onto power lines, onto trees, talking about a major event where we see trees down and a lot of power outage and obviously the roads especially along interstate 70 and 35 are going to be treacherous. where you see this color right here is where an ice storm warning is in effect. again, long term event all their
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way through monday. by the time we are done, get little rounds of this moving through, probably the bull's-eye is areas of kansas and oklahoma, some of those areas over that inch or so of ice accumulating. there should be a lot of precipitation with it on the warmer side as well, get ready across parts of oklahoma to look at significant flooding going on with this as well. the backside of it will have snow where it is a little bit colder all the way through the atmosphere, but that ice storm is going to be one of the worst we have seen in a very long time right across the plains. >> jenna: thank you very much. >> gregg: three nominees to president-elect trump's cabinet taking along their relationship with russia, among them, james mattis, we will take a closer look at how the nominees all feared during the week of hearings. and a touching tribute to a hero and blue, new york city police officer laid to rest as thousands gathered to remember his extraordinary life.
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>> it is pretty clear about what took place here about russian involvement in efforts to pack information into have an impact on american democracy. this was an aggressive action taken by the senior leadership inside of russia and america has an obligation in the cia as part of that obligation needs to protect that information. >> i would consider the principal threats to start with, russia, and it would certainly include any nations that are looking to intimidate nations around their periphery, regional nations nearby them. >> it has invaded the ukraine, including the taking of crimea. they supported syrian forces that brutally violates the laws of war. our nato allies are right to be alarmed at a resurgent russia. >> jenna: president-elect trump's nomination to run the pentagon, cia and state
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department appearing to contradict at times mr. trump himself when it comes to our relationship with russia. general james mattis telling senators in no uncertain terms that our military is not strong enough to confront increasing global threats from russia and china. fellow with the federal policy initiative and a writer, and has reported from all over the world. i'm curious, we played a little bit of sound, smattering of sound, what stands out the most to you from what we have heard this week? >> mostly the contradictions from all three nominees on what america's relationship should be with moscow. when you compare to what donald trump has been saying. donald trump wants to be friends with the russians. he thinks they are potential allies in the war on islamic terrorism and all sorts of other issues. but here you have these three nominees for a very senior position saying they think russia is an adversary, international lawbreaker, and not a friend of the united states. i thought that was pretty remarkable. >> jenna: donald trump also think it is remarkable and tweeted this morning. he said this on his twitter
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account. "all of my cabinet nominee are looking good and doing a great job. i want them to be themselves and express their own thoughts, not mine!" does the diversity of opinion from what we have seen publicly strengthen the incoming administration or weaken it? >> i think if it is allowed to continue in the actual governance of the country, if donald trump allows his cabinet secretaries and cia chiefs to instant delete pursue the policies they were recommending when they were testifying, that could be a good thing, but it would require donald trump basically giving up and reversing himself on really one of the few issues he has been consistent on, which would be this belief the united states can be friends with millinery pollutants russia. i think we are actually going to see some potential heads banging between the president may be his defense secretary, cia director and secretary of state if he really sticks to this belief on russia and he's going to be disagreeing with them very
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strongly. >> jenna: who do you think is right, who is on the right side of the issue? >> i absolutely would agree with what general general mattis sa, certainly congressman pompeo. i think russia is, as mitt romney said four years ago, they are the number one geo-clinical flow for the u.s. i think they are basically on every issue around the world, we are a cross purposes with them and they are currently trying to destabilize europe and our allies in europe. there are very important elections this year in the netherlands, germany, and france, and i think we should anticipate seeing some really serious meddling, hacking, all of the sorts of techniques that they used in our election. they will be put to use in europe. they are going to be put to use to bring power anti-american and pro-russian governments. >> jenna: that is something to watch. you did not mention rex tillerson and the names you mentioned that you agree with. i want to play a little bit of rex tillerson hearing and then we will talk more about it.
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>> is a vladimir putin a war criminal? >> i would not use that term. i understand there is a body of record in the public domain. i'm sure there is a body record in the classified domain, and i think in order to deal with a serious question like this -- >> mr. tillerson, there are videos and pictures that are there. >> need to be fully informed before advising the president. >> there is so much information out there, should not be hard to say that vladimir putin's military has conducted war crimes that have been never acceptable in in syria to specifically target civilians as has happened there with the russian military. >> jenna: why didn't you mention rex tillerson as someone you agree with this week? >> i will say two things, i agree with senator rubio that vladimir putin is a war criminal and they are committing war crimes. that being said, i'm not sure this is something the secretary of state should be declaring even before he has been confirmed. i'm not sure how diplomatic that is. i would be more sympathetic to
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rex tillerson in that clip. the reason i'm more hesitant as he spent 41 years as working for an oil company, and the values and skill set that you learn in that job is frankly different from what you need when you are secretary of state his job at exxonmobil was to drill for oil and strike deals, often times with dictators. when you're secretary of state, you need to consider our democratic alliances, the importance of nato, human rights. there also was of other considerations that come into play when you are america's top diplomat, and i'm not sure rex tillerson is the best man for the job. >> jenna: i guess it depends on how you look at the experience at exxonmobil, he described it one way, and people say he is the head of a big team that was supposed to create value and accomplish a goal, so some could say it was the same thing for the state department, representing a big team to create a value for their shareholders which is us the citizens. could be a difference of the way you view his time at exxonmobil, but i have to ask about experience because you had experience overseas.
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when i was watching senator rubio and mr. tillerson go back and forth, i asked a question about how often he had ever been in russia, and i have no record of him even traveling to russia once. you don't have to be on the ground to ask questions, i know that certainly come over but what do you think of this experience with rex tillerson having experienced a broad and interacting with people of power? >> he deftly has a lot of experience, i'm not going to begrudge him that. i think he might be more fit for commerce secretary than perhaps secretary of state. i just think we do not want to conflate business interests and see american foreign policy as being basically just one giant business transaction. there are other considerations we have to have. for instance, when donald trump complains a lot about our nato allies not paying enough, it is true that most nato allies do not pay enough for their defense. that said, i think nato is a vitally important and our alliances are so important, they are more important then than hr much money is put into the
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alliance paid you cannot put a price tag on peace and prosperity in europe for 70 years which is what we have had because of nato. you cannot put a price tag on peace and prosperity in asia since the end of world war ii that we have maintained because of our military forces there. so i fear this sort of obsession with money and transactionalism, i think we really need to get back to the importance of values and what those play. >> jenna: as you point out in "the washington post," a lot of our nato allies fought alongside with us in afghanistan and otherwise. it is easy to forget that because we don't talk about it a lot. final question quickly because philosophically, this is where we are with whether or not we are with russia as an ally or against russia when it comes to one movement inside our country which is the conservative movement. one of the things you pointed out in your piece is there seems to be this thinking we can align with russia against islamic terror. you say that is seductive but wrong, and i want to let you talk to our viewers a little bit about why you do not think that works. >> there are two main reasons,
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one i would say is that russia's approach to combating islamic terrorism is basically mass murder, look at what they did in chechnya and the '90s, early 2,000, murdering tens of thousands of people, leveling cities, not a successful strategy. it just inspires hatred. the second thing is i do not think russia actually wants america to succeed. they have been accused of aiding and abetting the rise of isis, specifically funneling chechnya terrace into syria. they withheld information, if you will call before the lead up to the boston bombing because one of the brothers, maybe even two of them, traveled through russia to chechnya in the year before and were held, they withheld information. to say russia can be a friend and ally to the united states, you have to assume they want to cooperate with us and want america to succeed, that is the underlying basis of an alliance. i don't think russia as it is run by a bunch of old kgb guys once the united states to succeed in the world pair they
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have a zero-sum view of global affairs, and they want to bring us down. they want to hurt us. >> jenna: really interesting point. when we will talk a lot more about. great to have you on the program as always, look forward to having you back. thank you. >> gregg: president-elect donald trump slamming the mainstream media, even calling one outlet "fake news," in the business also taking some lumps and the court of public opinion. howard kurtz will be joining us. he says mistrust could end up harming our nation. he is on deck next. tech: don't let a cracked windshield ruin your plans.
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after she was born. taken from her crib inside a florida hospital in 1998 by a woman posing as a nurse, now police say they have found that stolen child alive and well in south carolina, using dna testing to confirm her identity. the woman believed to have raised her now facing criminal charges for kidnapping. >> since you are attacking us come can you give us a question? mr. president-elect? president-elect, since you are attacking our news organization, can you give us a chance? you are attacking our news organization, give us a chance to ask a question, sir, mr. president-elect, can you say categorically, mr. president-elect, can you give us a question because you are attacking us? >> don't be rude. do not be rude. i'm not going to give you a question. you are fake news. go ahead. >> jenna: surely one of the most watched clips of the entire week pure president-elect donald trump at his press
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conference, first since last july, fox news analyst howard kurtz says this is a good indication of how the relationship between the white house in media has changed and could change more in the future. he joins us now. you've watched it a few times and thought a lot about it. why do you think this is a sign of real change, in what sort of change do you think it means? >> first, cnn's jim acosta, good reporter but he clearly crossed the line. i lost track of how many times he interrupted donald trump, six, seven, eight, nine, there is no constitutional right to ask a question at a press conference. the more important moment was when he turned to him to say "you are fake news." cnn is not fake news, they do make mistakes in misjudgments like any news outlet, but i think to a lot of people out there, they feel that all of the media, the mainstream media are purveyors of fake news. that means we have kind of forfeited our role as a fair enclave, calling balls and strikes on what is factual. >> jenna: how do we get it
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back and become good umpires again? >> look at the last year or two comments going to be a long, top, uphill climb here some of this is self-inflicted wounds by the media, for example, completely botching the election when there were stories that were wrong or are sensational or are biased, so i blame us to a considerable degree. donald trump's constant attacks on the media also having an effect on all of that. when you think about it, there has also been 30 years of attacks, mostly from the right, a little bit from the left, that the mainstream media have no credibility, in weather that is true or not, it has kind of devalued the brand so that now when politics, whether it is hillary clinton or donald trump, when they argue about an issue, it used to be there was enough residual respect that we could come along to say these are basic facts and what is in dispute. now people do not even trust us to do that. they do not trust the media fact-checkers to be fair and accurate. >> jenna: it is true, it we've been thinking a lot about it. i'm curious what your thoughts
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are for how this time period differs from others because we've always had an open conversation about how much you can trust the press which goes back to our founding because we have the freedom of the press. how do you think this time is different than other times or is this just an accumulation or buildup of a lot of toxicity that is going to be in the system? >> i suppose there are echoes of the era of yellow journalism at the end of the 19th century, but the difference is technology. is trump going to attack us on twitter 24 hours a day? we can communicate instantly with people, not just through cable television, but social media, the web, you name it. i think it has become such a hyper- partisan atmosphere that now when buzzfeed publishes a complete unverified document about donald trump and russia, they say you are all like the buzzfeed. it hurts all of our credibility collectively. i think this is not just a problem for those of us who worked in the news business. i think it hurts the country
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because if everybody just sort of believes their own opinions and are in their own echo chambers, there is no common set of facts we can use as a country to debate these important issues. that, i think, is going to be very hard to get back. >> jenna: one of the big debates about technology, does it allow us more freedom to view other opinions or allow us to stay in our corners and reassert our own? it is one of the big debates about technology we continue to have. ari fleischer, former white house spokesperson tweeted this, speaking of technology. "the risk for the press is that all outlets are seen the same as buzzfeed now," which plays executive to your point, and how to break out of that. going back to our viewers who may think, yes, we actually do think that about you guys, what would you say to the consumers of media about how to navigate this time? >> there are lots of important distinctions to be made. first of all, consume a lot of media, do not state in one silo than make up your own mind.
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secondly, a lot of news organizations have this unverified, unsubstantiated collection of rumors and information about donald trump, they did not publish it and still have not reported the details despite the fact buzzfeed did. we are not all buzzfeed, but i understand that perception. the more that people think we are all biased, all fake, all making mistakes, all self absorbed, out of touch with the country, there is an element of truth and all that, the more it is very hard for us to be seen as any kind of neutral arbiter in this partisan world. >> jenna: checks and balances matter, seems like a lead of the media is getting checked. [laughs] howie, thank you very much. we will see you on sunday. >> gregg: republican lawmakers taking a big step toward the repeal of the affordable care act a.k.a. obamacare. the measure that has to past that housed first, what house speaker paul ryan is saying about a replacement plan. achoo!
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>> jenna: the house expected to vote today and a budget package that is crucial to the g.o.p. goal of repealing and replacing obamacare. house leaders saying they have enough votes to pass the measure but it could still be very close which is why we are watching, our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is watching as well on capitol hill. >> good afternoon. the house appears to be getting close to the vote, house republicans i've spoken with across the conference have told us they believe they have the votes that it will pass.
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house republicans and their democratic colleagues are debating the budgetary measure which passed the senate early yesterday morning. it will be the first official step toward repealing obamacare. republican lawmakers say they are stepping into stopped our health insurance system from collapsing. >> this should not be about preserving someone's legacy. it should be about fulfilling those promises to the american people that were broken. we are here to fulfill that promise to how refreshing it is that you have people that ran for years saying we are going to repeal obamacare with a president who is ready to sign the bill to repeal obamacare. >> the guy he would sign that bill, president-elect trump in on twitter " "the "unaffordable" care act will soon be history!" a senator blasted his g.o.p. colleagues. >> for more than six years, we've been waiting for a
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credible, republican health care plan and none has been forthcoming. all you have is smoke and mirrors, and the american people are getting ready to get screwed. >> republican lawmakers countered that soaring premiums are already hurting american families, assuming the measure passes, it would authorize the regulatory committees to write repeal language at the same time republican leaders are looking at replacements. >> jenna: thank you. >> gregg: asked the house prepares to vote on that budget package, so critical to obamacare, it is having it leader speaking out about a replacement plan, how house speaker paul ryan said they are working on scrapping the law and replacing it at the same time. >> we have to step in and rescue people from the collapse of this law. there are good objectives that they sought to achieve in the law, we agree with that, but we want more choices, lower prices, more competition, no monopolies.
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that is what we want to replace it with and what we are working on right now. >> gregg: we will bring in the associate editor for "the wall street journal" who has been studying this subject. ryan also said we are doing this, both of them simultaneously, repeal and replace within the first 100 days. >> ambitious pete christina peterson has a piece about this now, sort of outlining what it is going to take. theoretically, you could get an architecture for a new plan in place in the first 100 days. implementation, a totally different story. i think even speaker ryan who says, we are on the same page, the republicans are, with the administration, we want to do this simultaneously but even he would say the implementation of it could take a year. >> so it has to be phased in so you don't come as ryan said last night, pull the rug from underneath people who have relied on ier of the democrats is looking at this, the republicans have taken ownership of this now. they have to find a way to keep
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the public that likes parts of the affordable care act pleased. they have a midterm election a few years agway, so how do you do that while also cutting costs and lamenting new parts of a new program? is going to be a tricky business. >> gregg: we just heard a democrat on the floor of the house that said republicans don't have a clue. he is completely wrong and unknowing because i've spent countless hours reading hundreds and hundreds of pages of the various plans, and there are some good ones out there. that is the good news, that there are economists and reformers and members of congress, including tom price who is going to be the hhs secretary if confirmed, who have refined the elements of a market-based solution. i even have written out some of the suggestions here. there are plans there. >> the republicans have been looking at a variety of plans now for several years. as a healthcare consumer come as a citizen of the united states, what we have going for us as
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both the democrats and republicans have been spending a lot of time looking at this. what is working about the affordable care act, what in the minds of the new republican emaciation is not working. the desire to keep that piece of the act that extends healthcare insurance to stay on your parents plan until the age of 26. there is a desire to address somehow, if you have a pre-existing condition, you can still get healthcare insurance peer there are solutions. proposal by the republicans as well that may cost more or less, may involve a tax deduction or joining a high-risk pool, but there are a variety of different proposals out there. i think the public should just be prepared for this to be a long issue project from the desire to change the law to the actual changes happening. >> gregg: is there a problem within the republican party? i'm speaking specifically of the house freedom caucus, which is ultraconservative folks, and they are deeply concerned,
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legitimately so, about the cost. >> cost in a variety of policies in the current plan should insurance companies be allowed to sell across the border or should there be a mandate, should you have to take insurance? insurance companies say you cannot ask us to take on pre-existing conditions which are really expensive to the insurance company without making sure that i am allowed and that i have in my pool a ton of young people who don't have a lot of healthcare problems, but are paying premiums so i can offset the cost. these are all issues now that within the republican party there is going to be a battle. then the republicans are going to have to get some democrats to come on board to get this ultimately passed. you are not going to be able to do it all through the budget reconciliation process. that is a technical process that will allow certain things to happen, but ultimately, it will need a vote. >> gregg: absolutely come in and the senate they need at least 60 votes to beat a filibuster. you do not want to make this a mistake president obama made
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which was not to get a single vote from the opposing party because in the end, the pendulum always swings, and you know you're going to lose the white house, congress, at some point in time, and it can be reversed. >> it is a problem of the feeling of legitimacy for the bill passing. unless you get some on both sides but mind you, the republicans want to have this happen in this congress now because midterms are two years from now and who knows whether that changes the complexion of the number in the senate? >> gregg: republicans could lose the senate come you never know. john, great to see you. >> jenna: story from derek city we want to mention to our viewers, a hero emily remembered in new york city, steven mcdonald a detective with the new york city police department died this week of a heart attack. he lived for more than 30 years after being shot and paralyzed in the line of duty and their turnout for his funeral and the city today was immense. effectively shutting down fifth avenue for the funeral at st. patrick's cathedral. he was on a beat and
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central park many years ago when he confronted some young men that were seen loitering in a certain area of the park, and a 15-year-old from harlem pulled out a gun and shot detective mcdonald in the throat and paralyzed him, and it was the young age of the young man who shot him as well as his grievous injuries that certainly got the attention of the entire nation. as he went throughout his years, detective mcdonald talked about forgiveness and said he forgave the young man who shot him and has traveled the world with that message, and that is why the turnout for him was so big in new york city and so profound paired we encourage you to read more about his story, i will put it on my twitter account come his obituary in "the new york times" which is inspiring to read and inspiring to all. we will be back with mark "happening now." for lower back pain sufferers,
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>> as far as hacking, i think it was russia, but i think we also get hacked by other countries and other people, and i can say that when we lost 22 million names and everything else that was hacked recently, they did not make a big deal out of that. that was something that was extraordinary that was probably china. >> gregg: president-elect on atomic it clear that russia was behind the dnc hacking and now he plans to host a series of meetings with corporate executives who have faced their own cybersecurity challenges. that trump team says former new york city mayor at rudy giuliani will lend his expertise to those new efforts. joining us now to talk about all of this, morgan who is a cybersecurity analyst, senior fellow at the center for digital government. great to have you here. whether it be russia, china, north korea, iran, some bad actors out there, there are plenty of those, how pervasive and dangerous are these cyber
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attacks? >> years ago, their french intelligence said everyone spies on everyone, translate that to the 21st century, everyone packs everybody. this is the kind of wharf where we are not prepared for. we have great offensive weapons but bad defense. it is not only bad right now, it's going to keep escalating because the price of committing these attacks, we don't give people but he noses anymore. we need to start having the defense from our defensive standpoint, cybersecurity defense needs to be so strong that the price of an attack, the cost goes so high that we narrow down who is attacking us. we have the energy grid and all these things basing us and we do not have a good answer right now. >> gregg: we have the cybersecurity tools, the computer programs and software to be able to defend ourselves properly insufficiently? >> no -- they give it -- think about it as nuclear weapons. we don't have anything to stop
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clear weapons, any kind of digital missile shield. that is not to say that there are some people doing it right, but overall, if you gave us a great, we get in a on offense and d or f on defense, and you and i had a great conversation about the office of personnel management and all the records that were hacked. power stations have been hacked. ukraine, a year to the day they were hacked and black energy, they got hacked again. people who do not think this will happen in the u.s., there will be a day of reckoning and it will be fairly severe. >> gregg: you brought up the power grid, is that the one that is really worrisome? america's power grids run mostly by computer systems, not to mention our banking services. if those go down, if those are hacked, all of that together could just cripple the united states. >> i think it was an israeli general of the air force he said if you want to go after a nation, you go after its power or water. imagine taking out the power, imagine having spent many years
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in law enforcement in kansas, you have a series of events, first of all the power goes out than civil unrest than emergency services that cannot get there than hospitals who need power. imagine a sustained attack, imagine the chaos it would cost, the civil unrest, we are not prepared to handle something of that magnitude. had riots over the past few years, imagine doubling or tripling or quadrupling that, orders of magnitude of ten. this way happen in a sustained attack, i'm not saying this guy is fine but we need to be prepared if that happens, but we are not prepared for it. >> gregg: the new president said within 90 days, he's going to have a major plan to stop the hacking phenomenon. is that, morgan, doable? >> first of all, i would not call it a phenomenon like we just discovered it, it's been going on for years. second of all, 90 days to have a plan is a good start but as in washington with anything, what you say in what you do are different things, do not look at what they say, look at what they do. the only way to get things
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accomplished is to replace our aging i.t. infrastructure, for example opm, technology was so old we could not encrypt the files on there. if we are going to spend one chilean dollars on improving critical infrastructure, carved out 10% and improve the digital infrastructure to your point that runs everything our power, water, financial systems, public safety, healthcare, all of those things. we need our commitment and the dollar's, not the rhetoric. >> gregg: morgan ride, this conversation, we have to have more of in the very near future because this is a real threat td it could really damage our economy, not to mention everyone's lives. morgan is an expert on these things, good to see you, thank you. >> jenna: quite a winter welcome and northern california, our next guest took this photo of snow, wait, you will see it, inside his home. this is on the outside, wait until you see the inside. >> is that the living room or kitchen? >> jenna: just wait.
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>> the head of the fbi under investigation for how he handled hillary clinton's email server problems. we will talk to the man responsible for bringing mrs. clinton's email server into the public arena with a lawsuit. the justice department also out with a scathing new report on the chicago police department, what changes they are suggesting in a city hit with a surging murder rate. plus president obama says losing the p.r. battle is why democrats failed to do better in the last election. we will debate that on "america's newsroom hq," coming up in just a bit. >> jenna: a lot of extreme weather out west, mammoth blizzard pounding lake tahoe, that area getting several feet of snow this week. in fact, take a look at our next guest's home in this incredible photo. this is his house before and
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after, if you will. see the before when there is no snow, the after tells a different story. joining us now on the phone is stephen, we are going to pull up the photo, snow coming through a door, in your home. tell us a little bit about what happened here? >> we lived in an area in an avalanche zone that is controlled by the county. the county pays that ski patrol for the area to come down and to create these controlled avalanches. usually, that medication is smaller avalanches, but we had a huge, huge snowfall overnight, and they gave us a call, we knew it was coming, and you hear the bombs getting closer and closer to make their way toward ours, and we were prepared down and what we call the avalanche bunker. we were hunkered down there, you hear the bombs go off, it is kind of a pause, and my daughter said, it sounds like an
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elephant, and it just shakes the whole house, and we wait a couple more minutes, and then we run what happens, and that is what we came to when we opened up the door. there it is. it came through, it blew it open, filled up the mud room, and we knew we had a couple of big days of digging in front of us. >> jenna: for my understanding, that's what you've been doing the last few days. i only have about 30 seconds, but are you guys all right? >> we are, we are good. there was a close call with the neighbor down below us, cleaning off the propane tank, he did not get the call and realized they were up there and was able to run out of the area while her daughter actually saw the avalanche coming toward her. so very scary moment for them. they are all safe, but the area is inundated with falling trees, and we are still in a state of well here in northern california. >> jenna: we can see why, we
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