the next day with a headache, it's george bush's fault in obama's world. that's all the time we have left this evening. as always, thank you for being with us. we will see you back here tomorrow night. >> bill: "the o'reilly factor" is on tonight.l: >> it is going to be very difficult. i don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president. v >> bill: was that statement helpful to the country or is it creating more hatred? tonight, "the factor" will look at america divided as the inauguration closes in. >> you said, you drew the redline.e. >> look -- >> i don't want to make too big a deal out of it. >> bill: president obama still not real comfortable answering questions about syria, poison gas, and why he didn't do anything about it. charles krauthammer has some thoughts. >> we owe bill o'reilly and "the o'reilly factor" a great thank you for the appearance on his show. >> bill: also ahead, a terrific story, the

talladega college marching band will perform at the inauguration thanks to "the factor" viewers. >> so thankful, so excited for our students. >> bill: caution, you are about to enter the "no spin zone." "factor" begins right now. ♪ >> bill: hi, i am bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. "the factor" viewers come through again. that is a subject of this evening's talking points memo.n, hateful people are trying to sabotage the presidential inauguration set for this coming friday. there is no excuse for that. peaceful transition of powerer should be respected by all loyal americans. in fact, the term, loyal opposition, is a badge of honor. we need it differing opinions driving vibrant society. when you take the word "loyal" out, then, it is simply a position that is a subversion of

the republic. t enter the talladega college marching band, 230 strong. the tornadoes are a fabulous part of a very important alabama college. talladega was founded by ex-slaves and is an excellent african-american school, it creates opportunities for students who may not have many resources. the talladega tornadoes were invited to perform at the inauguration. 99% of the band have never been to washington, d.c. kids were thrilled. then came the threats. directed at the college president, dr. billy hawkins. he spoke to "the factor" on thursday. >> they have said that i have shamed the college by making this decision and i have had folks that say that i am a disgrace to my african-american race and it has been pretty nasty. >> bill: now, immediately after that interview, donatedfr money from "the factor" viewers

poured into gofundme.com to help the talladega band. as it stands right now, the college has received -- ready -- close to a half million dollars for the band and for scholarships. that is simply amazing. >> we owe bill o'reilly and "the o'reilly factor" a great thank you for the appearance on the show. we are just so happy that they'll have the opportunity, as american citizens, to have the opportunity to march on pennsylvania avenue, to be a part of the civic ceremony. i am just excited for the students. j the culture that we get to -- -- the closer we get to friday, the more excited i become. >> bill: great story. again, "the factor" viewers have donated so much money to help talladega, not only will the band get go to the inauguration, it will have its entire infrastructure updated and scholarships will be provided to help poor students. my foundation donating $25,000. the bigger picture is this. much of that money donated was given by trump supporters, thehe

deplorables that have been demonized as racists by some on the hateful far left. the story is vivid proof thatt generalizing, generalizing about any group of people is foolish and dishonest. dr. hawkins knew what he was doing when he came on "the factor." he could have gone on any program, but he chose us, because he knows this audience, you guys, are watching because you want fairness and justice. on this martin luther king jr. federal holiday, the talladega college marching band ready to perform at the inauguration. the students will never forget that honor. the country should be grateful to have these kids in d.c. and the "the factor" audience has made it all possible. that is "the memo." for the top story reaction, joining us from washington, charles krauthammer. so this is a repudiation, i believe, of the race baiters, and it is a vivid repudiation of them. do you disagree? >> no, i think you're absolutely right.

i think you have done a really good deed. i think the college president has shown infinitely more spine than all of the ivy league presidents have collectively to the pressures they are under, political correctness. and, as you say, this is a celebration of -- this isn't a celebration of donald trump. this is a celebration of a solid transition through the central focal point of civic life.th and these kids, who probably ars not politically committed the way the people who try to pressure the school are, simply want to be able to say, and they will say, to their grandchildren, that i marched in an inaugural parade. it doesn't matter which one. to deny them that, the way i think you are correct in saying, the haters have done, is a big deal. and i am glad it is not going to happen. now, last week, we talked about the fact that singers and actors

had been pressured not to show up to the inauguration. i could not get terribly excited over that. but i can understand how the people who watch your show were terribly excited about denyingbu these kids, for whom, as you say, 99% have never even been to washington. this is going to be the memory of their lives. >> bill: what this is all about, the reason that i was soo happy, and we didn't solicithi donations, by the way, you know, we didn't make it a focal point of the interview with dr. hawkins. we said at the end, in ten seconds, the band needs some money, gofundme.com has got this thing. omarosa manigault was on and she said it, not me. it was just a quick thing. then, boom. but what i was so happy, i was happy that the doctor chose us, and he did choose us. and that shows these haters on the far left that what you are trying to put out there, that the fox news channel and

"the o'reilly factor" are a bunch of racists and they do it every day, you know they do it, charles. just vicious stuff. this is so untrue. and the second thing, you hit it right on the head. this college president, he has taken every kind of heat you can take, vile threats, some want him removed from his position in the college, trying to get petitions up to get him removed. this man said, you know it is best, that the students have this experience. you want to come after me? come on. i am not going to deny the students. that is courage. that is what martin luther king day should all be about. go. >> that is what higher education should be about. one of the great tragedies is the collapse, the cowardice, of the leaders who are leading universities, caving in on these demands, caving into political correctness, punishing professors and others who speakv up in a way that isn't exactly

the way it is supposed to be,, according to their liberal -- life. and here we have, a man who has had a college many people haven't heard of, stands up, as you say, to more devastating threats, and i think he is right. i also admire the fundraising capacity. i would like to put an addition on my house, maybe you can helpi me out with that. >> bill: [laughs] a few people might kick you like 30 or $0.40. nobody's feeling sorry for you, krauthammer, come on, now. it is just such a good story, this story, that is why i lead with it tonight, in the face of bad stories. the rest of our program, we are going to have to deal with the hate created and all of the crazy stuff that is going on. this is such a good story, a positive story for the country. >> it is also in contrast to the politicians, who are now going to boycott the inauguration. >> bill: the 31 democrats.

>> that's not what you want to do. you want to boycott? boycott the state of the union address. take a political event and stay out. that is fine. but the inauguration is beyond party. it's a celebration of something, the most glorious moment of civic behavior and our culture. >> bill: you are absolutely right. >> what you got to do, if you want to personally stay home because you really can't stand the guy, fine. but all of these people are making ostentatious -- f >> bill: show boats. >> announcements that they can't tolerate this. that is how you stay home -- >> bill: dana perino has a very interesting take on what ia happening and she is coming up after you. we are going to hold charles over. he cannot leave his chair. to talk about president obama being confronted about syria. >> redline. >> yeah.

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>> bill: "impact segment" tonight, last night on "60 minutes," president obama talks with steve kroft. as usual, he is very much in control, except when it came to syria. you may remember that in 2012, about a year before the cruel c tyrant assad used poison gas on civilians, mr. obama threaten him. >> redline. you have to say that. and there have been reports that it wasn't in your speech. >> no, it wasn't.t >> that you just sort of ad-libbed it. >> yeah, look. if you are putting all the weight on that particular phrase, then, in terms of how it was interpreted in washington, i think you make a legitimateph

point. i have got to tell you, though, i don't regret at all saying that if i saw bashar al-assad using chemical weapons on his people, that that would change my assessments in terms of what we were or were not willing to do in terms of syria. >> but you didn't say that. you said you drew the redline. >> look. >> i don't want to make too big a deal out of this.re >> bill: once again, charles krauthammer joins us from washington. the president had trouble with that question. the most important part of all of this is what happened after mr. obama didn't do anything to assad, correct? >> it is not just what happened in syria. where the russians came in and appeared to pull chestnuts out of a fire, this phony deal,, where supposedly chemical weapons were all evacuated, they weren't. chemical weapons were used later in the war. obama did nothing. it's not even just syria. when obama says it was missing, it was interpreted in

washington, no, it wasas interpreted in beijing, in moscow, in tehran, by allies all over the world, with the united states president says the word "redline," that has a meaning.re obama says it is a phrase, as if it was some kind of random phrase. it has a meaning in diplomacy. you cross, we act. they cross, he didn't act. as a result, you see all the aggressive actions around the world. people understood that this is fundamentally a weak and feckless president who will not resist, hence, the south china sea. hence, ukraine. hence, crimea. hence iran's essentially takinge over syria and lebanon, as well. and the threats today in eastern europe s. >> bill: the worst part for me is, i said this at the time, this isn't monday morning quarterbacking, as soon as assad dropped that gas killing

the babies and the children and all of that, the next day, the u.s. air force should have just bombed his air force to smithereens. that is easy to do, as you know, they only have one big air base. we could have taken it out in an hour. okay? that was it. we don't need ground troops, we don't need a big war occupation. bang. you don't put another plane up there. but since the united states didn't do anything, rational, as you said, came in and around came in. and the slaughter began. and what did the slaughter lead to? millions of migrants leaving the area, flooding the zone in europe. terrorism on the march. isis rising in power because of the chaos. all of these things came from president obama's failure to do anything. but i don't think the president would ever admit that. >> no, i don't think he has admitted that to himself at all. i mean, you look at the victory tour he has been at for the last, i don't know, two weeks or so, celebrating all of the great

things his presidency has accomplished. his presidency is going to be remembered as a historical parenthesis.s. he is not willing to admit that, i kind of understand, he spent eight years of his life as president of the united states, you don't want to admit that your achievements are written on sand, but you look at obamacare, that is written on sand. he never got the buy-in from the oppositional from the country. he never got cap and trade. he had to go through executive orders. they are all going to be canceled, the majority of them are going to be canceled. he tried immigration reform, did not succeed. executive order. this was a failed presidency. i think the reason is the overreach. he also sort of overestimated himself. his supreme self-confidence that you see even to this day in that "60 minutes" interview the other night, is what i think was the downfall. he thought, i know more about this than anybody else, i am

smarter, i understand the middle east, and if i just say i the words, "redline" and i go back on it, people are still and this belief that he has and what he calls the international community, which is a fiction, international norms, a fiction,h he adhered to that. i mean, the motto is, what is it, the moral arc of the universe tends towards justice.h something he got from martin luther king. the problem is that doesn't apply to the so-called community of nations. >> bill: no, it absolutely doesn't. there is a lesson here for donald trump. a big, big lesson. the president-elect has a b tendency to speak off-the-cuff, as obama did on the redline thing, and to say, whatever he wants to say on his mind. but if you say it as president, you better back it up, correct? >> that is where i think we are going into very, very stormy

waters with donald trump. obama understood what he was doing. he meant what he said. then he backed off. with trump, he said so manyy things, many of them outrageous, just look at the interview he did today with the german and the british newspaper, talking about nato in offhanded ways, talking about the eu, talking about obsolescence. every word he says has an impact. the problem is, he does so many of these things that are outrageous, never heard before, i think they cancel each other out.s >> bill: so do i. but i am talking about big things. he is going to be tested and he is going to be tested quick, donald trump. >> let me give you, talking about a big thing, t you don't screw around with the chinese in taiwan. >> bill: one china. >> they have said the carrier, the chinese are saying that the carrier, the taiwan strait, if

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>> bill: "unresolved problems" segment tonight, undermining donald trump before he takes office. that is what congressman john lewis from georgia is absolutely doing. >> i believe in forgiveness. i believe in trying to work with people. it is going to be hard, it is going to be very difficult.

i don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president. >> you do not consider him a legitimate president? why is that? >> i think the russians participated in helping this man get elected. >> bill: now, is that helpful? is it? no, it is not. we respect congressman lewis, but he has divided the country. by the way, he did that in 2001, as well. he didn't attend george w. bush's inauguration. he said mr. bush wasn't a legitimate president because of the recount. dana perino, host of "the five." 31 democrats, including mr. lewis, are going to boycott the inauguration. good. i don't care about those peoplec there they are. all radical leftists. you had an interesting observation about why they are doing it. >> if you look at all of these democrats, they are almost allll in very safe seats. they paid no political price for not going to the inauguration. in fact, they will probably get

very good public public relations and hits on their web sites and social media and their districts by their constituents praising them for taking this tough stand of not going to the inauguration. they pay no price. >> bill: one of them is congressman lacy clay, the guy who put up the drawing about the police as the pig. another one, maxine waters, she didn't go to w's inauguration, either. these people are in congress because their districts are, for whatever reason, crazy left. there are some crazy right districts, too. >> absolutely.ev i also think -- 31 is not that big, there are progressive democrats that will attend the inauguration out of a sense of duty. a lot of times, think about republicans who go to president obama's state of the union. they are not standing there because they are going to tear --r cheered the message, but thy go because democracy is a participatory sports.

>> bill: the guy wilson yelled out "liar," that time. that was terrible and he hurt his own cause for that. >> he paid a price. >> bill: he did. right now, we are celebrating, as charles and i just discussed, the peaceful transition of power, ever since george washington, one of the things that washington was most adamant about, and these people can't participate in a peaceful transition of power? they can't do it? that, to me, is insulting. >> the two most prominent, maybe most popular democrats, are actually going to be there and on stage with donald trump. they will be sitting there witnessing. president obama and hillary clinton. they are both going to be there. so, do you think they really want to go? probably not. especially hillary. >> bill: i think bill clinton wants to go. >> jimmy carter was the first to say, "i'll be there."ab >> bill: is he going to be there? i heard his health -- >> george h.w. bush is not. >> bill: the presidents will be there because this is the tradition of the presidency. >> one of my favorite things in january of 2009, george w. bush invited all the former living

presidents to the white house to meet president-elect obama. they had a luncheon and they all stood in front of the resolute desk. it is one of my favorite pictures. i thought, it is just amazing how he showed the world over and over again what kind of country we are. >> bill: we want robust debate, loyal opposition. were you there in that meeting? >> i got to go in for the photo op. i saw the reporters going on and i with robert gibbs in the press secretary's office going through transition stuff, and i said, we could go to this meeting. so we tucked in behind and stood by the grandfather clock. it really is one of my favorite moments. >> bill: were they all talking to one another? >> yeah, they all had theck luncheon they were standing there for the photo op. >> bill: were they all joshing each other? >> a little bit. you think about all the things that carter said about all of them, the things that bill clinton said about george h.w. bush, the thingsat that obama said about 43, all of those things had gone away by that moment. >> bill: and clinton and bush the elder became good friends. >> they are all pretty good

friends, actually. >> bill: they all get along. >> i hope it continues. >> bill: that was a high point. the only one who boycotted was, and this is when w took over, after the dispute and the supreme court, lewis, same guy,f doing it now, maxine waters, and a guy named donald payne, who is no longer in office. so, anyway, thank you for the insight. we appreciate it. there is plenty more ahead as "the factor" moves along this evening. donald trump seems to be making twitter his chief policy microphone. is that a wise thing to do? and political hatred, is it at an all-time high? brit hume will address that. we hope you stay tuned for those reports as "the factor" continues all across the usa and all around the world. i'm so frustrated. i just want to find a used car without getting ripped off. you could start your search at the all-new carfax.com that might help. show me the carfax. now the car you want and the history you need

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>> bill: tonight, donald trump using twitter. >> the tweeting, i thought i would do less of it, but i have been covered so dishonestly by the press. >> bill: it is clear mr. trump believes twitter as an essential part of hiss communication plan? in new york city, cheryl casone from the fox business network. from boston, mary anne marsh, democratic strategist. all right, 20 million followers currently. on twitter. he said he will keep his private account and not use the presidential account, which has about 13.5. now, once he takes office, his personal account will triple, probably to 60 million.

so, it is a legitimate way to get his message out, is it not? >> it is very smart because twitter is trump's weapon of choice because every political reporter is on it and all the breaking news is there first. and the media treats every tweep by donald trump like breaking political news. it gets out everywhere. they report it verbatim. the problem is, they don't verify or check anything he puts out there first. so, for donald trump -- >> bill: what does it mean? he puts it out, what do they have to verify? he saying it, what do they have to verify? >> there are certain things he says in certain tweets, for t example, this past weekend about john lewis, not at all accurate. that should have been checked and reported. >> bill: "the atlanta journal-constitution" did it. they checked it. they did it. >> it doesn't happen in real time, bill. >> bill: it can't. >> it has all gone -- that is why trump loves it so much. he can get an unfettered message out there without any constraint to multiple millions of

followers -- people, rather -- on every platform. >> bill: i can't argue with that. but he is president now, cheryl. there's supposed to be a certain decorum in how a president communicates to the world. i think trump will smash that. >> there has to be decorum. this is donald trump. this is what got him elected. this is what won him ohio and michigan and donald trump is not going to change. >> bill: the tweets won it? >> of course it did. he went direct to his audience. we know that the mainstream media tend to be liberal. he will go completely around them and go straight to the american people. on twitter, i'm sorry, you got 57 million active americans on twitter, more than 300 million active users on twitter globally, why not bypass the media? that is exactly what he is doing. >> bill: we all understand that. here is an interesting fact, mary anne. 79% of the american people don't go to twitter. they are not tweeting. 79%. he is reaching, as you pointed out, he is reaching the press

and he is reaching people who are politically interested, but he is not reaching the masses. they are still dependent on programs like this. go ahead.ey >> but then, programs like this and others put the tweet up, just as if they were looking at a screen of the iphone. >> bill: i very rarely do. >> almost everybody else does. you have tried to talk to him about this. that is the good news for trump. the bad news for trump is, i think the reason he has a 55% unfavorability rating right now is because of his tweeting. he has used it to pick fights and bully business and individuals and settle scores. that is not for people -- he has done it more than ever since the election. >> bill: that is speculation. >> but it's working. that's the point. he is not going to stop it. >> bill: you say it works but there is a gallup poll out, all right, it just came out, it says 55% of americans don't like the way trump is transitioning into the white house. you say it works? >> don't like it when it translates to jobs and tax cuts and investments.

that's what he is using twitter for. you have ceos that are afraid of donald trump on twitter. they should be! he has got the ultimate mouthpiece, using his twitter account. >> bill: do you think, mary anne, it's an inhibitor for people? are they afraid they're going to get attacked by the president of united states on twitter and they're going to deal with that fallout? do you think he is using it as an intimidation? >> absolutely. look at what it has done to certain stock prices for certain companies. it has tried to silence his opponents. there is no product on my -- there is no question it has a chilling effect that is troubling. >> bill: why? doesn't he have a right to do that? >> and you think tanking the stock market is a good thing, bill? >> bill: if he says, mary anne, that he willma negotiate with the drug companies that do business with the federal agencies, look, that is a good thing. everybody should know that because the drug companies may be forced to bring prices down. i don't care if the drug stockse tank, it doesn't matter to me. >> it is very mixed.

very mixed. bill, it has a chilling effect on individuals who don't have the standing that trump does. this is going to be the president of the united stateses going after individuals, institutions, and businesses. >> bill: all right, but they are going after him big time on the media. last word. >> if you are the ceo of boeing or ford, or the producer of "saturday night live,"st be worried. donald trump is not going to stop. >> bill: i wouldn't be worried. do what you think is right and debate it. ladies, thank you. when we come back, political hatred.s is it at a dangerous high in -- dangerous level in america? and watters talking to the folks about better race relations. >> how are you doing? >> pretty good. >> i am here to heal the racial divide. >> good luck. g >> i'm going to need it. >> bill: he is. those reports after these messages.

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joining us now from florida, brit hume. do you think political hatred ia at its highest level ever?m >> well, i can't go back to the 18th century, but i can say that in my time covering washington, which goes back close to 50 years, i have never seen the pre-inauguration atmosphere inov terms of the poison equaling what we see here. this is usually a time when the partisan bitterness and disappointments of an election are set aside, if only temporarily, nonetheless, set aside, because of this remarkable event, which is the peaceful transition of power that you and charles were talking about earlier, which is something that is common to lasting democracies and uncommon almost everywhere in the world. so, it is very much something to celebrate. people set the partisanship and the disappointment, the bitterness, aside. this year, it is not happening. at least, not to the degree it used to. >> bill: all right. when nixon was elected in the

middle of the vietnam war, it was crazy in america. with the demonstrations, the o hatred about vietnam, and all of that, do you think it is worse now than it was back then? >> in terms of the political partisans, it is worse. if you are talking about the atmosphere and the upheaval in the body politic, you would have to make a serious comparison. just in terms of the political world, i think the partisanship and bitterness is the worst i have ever seen. >> bill: what about the bush-gore supreme court election? now, that was so divisive, and i was -- my question is, why is the hatred at a higher level now than back then? when a lot of democrats thought the election was stolen from them? >> i think the antipathy towards donald trump, the man, is more intense than it was against george w. bush.

even though the antipathy toward him was pretty strong and it became stronger with time, because of the tensions over the iraq war, but in terms of the personal antipathy, i think trump, the people who don't like trump feel about him in a way that they didn't ever feel about george w. bush. they feel that this man is -- >> bill: do you know why that is? >> well, i think i have a sense of it. that is that trump -- first of all, trump is different from another politician. in the sense, by and large, he does not try to smooth the edgef and accommodate in a way that politicians do. politicians generally go out ofg their way, while they may stick to their convictions, they go out of their way to smooth their edges so that they are as acceptable as possible to as many people as possible. trump is highly acceptable and has a warm devotion of his supporters, his hard-core supporters, who are not small in number. but for the rest of the people, trump says whatever he wants, he uses his twitter account in whatever way he feels like, and

he is brash and he is a braggart and he doesn't dress and look the way they think a president should and they are offended by him on a d multitude of levels. he makes that possible and p enables that to some extent. but i think that people who feel that way about him are really missing something.g. it turns out to be more to donald trump than i thought, i think more than a lot of people thought, i think you are seeing it unfold before your very eyes. a lot of the people who want have anything to do with him are -- won't have anything to do with him are missing it. that is it, bill. if you go back to about three weeks before the election, going forward to today, donald trump has done a lot of things right. he campaigned effectively and without mistakes in the closing weeks of the campaign. he overtook hillary clintonpa and won the election.n. since then, you look at his cabinet choices, this is an extraordinary group of people, many of them highly qualified, many of them very interesting. i think that he has not insisted

that they agree with him onth everything. indeed, he said the other daynk when he was asked about the things about mattis and tillerson, they didn't comport with the remarks he made about russia, he said, he didn't have to do that. he told them to be there selves. i didn't expect that from him.ha i thought he would regard every disagreement as a subject of a nasty tweet. that hasn't happened. i think people need to take another look at this. that doesn't mean -- he may be a failed president. >> bill: give him a chance. >> exactly. >> bill: that is what fairness in a republic is. >> give him a chance. >> bill: brit hume, everybody. watters on deck on this martin luther king federal holiday. he talks to both blacks and whites about race relations. watters is next. hambone! sally! 22! hut hut!

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>> bill: "back of the book" segment tonight, "watters' world." we hope you have enjoyed the martin luther king jr. federal holiday. as we were we reported last week, it is a day that should bring americans together. we sent watters out to talk to black and white americans about how race relations can improve. ♪ >> happy martin luther king day. >> same to you. >> are you going to do anything specific to celebrate? >> i was actually thinking how i can commemorate with my kids, just to really drive it home for them. >> very nice. >> that is legacy still lives with us. >> what you think the government needs to do to improve race relations? >> black people need to come together. that's the first thing. >> i don't know that the government can do much. race relations are sour becausee of the attitudes of individuals

in positions of power. >> stop profiling. >> i think it is education, not just in terms of going to the classrooms, and the way that we inform ourselves, think about the history, how we have gotten this far.msin >> you think that the government can do anything to improve race relations here in america? >> no. it's just an evolution. it just takes time. h >> you think things are getting better? >> i do. >> is there anything you would like the government to do for you? >> make sure they don't get rid of obamacare. >> i think it is a matter of taking initiative to improve themselves and not just expecting it to come to them, either. >> is there something you would like white people to know about black people? >> simply that we are not to be feared. >> everybody is the same. >> we are all brothers and sisters. n i care about everybody, whether you're black, white, asian, latina, doesn't matter. >> is there anything you want white people to know about you? >> you're not white, we are just people. we are not black and we're just people. >> do you think white people are obsessed with race? >> they get obsessed with skin pigmentation. >> i just wish that everyone i

-- would realize that we are all here together. there there is something called reverse discrimination. i didn't know what that was. >> do you think black peoplers misunderstand misunderstandingsu sometimes? >> yes. >> like what? >> that we all have struggles and we all are probably a lotgl more in common than it appears. >> do you think white people misunderstand black people sometimes? >> i don't think we should generalize it in terms of white people.pl i think it should just be about people. >> do you know who i am? >> i do not. >> i am watters, and this is my world. >> nice. >> bill: he looked impressed. was it hard to get people to talk about that? >> it was harder to get white people to talk. the black people were easy. a lot of white guys just ran away.op they didn't want to touch it,la especially on martin luther king day. >> bill: national television. the reviews are in from "the spin stops here" shows in tulsa and reading, pennsylvania, you did well. they liked to you.th >> how would you know? you skipped out and watched football with miller every time

i was on stage! >> bill: you were on the other monitor. >> every time i came on, there was football on in the green room. >> bill: if it's football or watters, you know what we are going to do. we were keeping an eye on you. t the folks kind of like you and you were nervous. >> i wasn't nervous at all. i was expecting you to be a little more high maintenance. all you ate was peanuts and pretzels. i thought we were going to get steak and lobster.ai there was nothing. >> bill: it's a lean tour. >> and you don't shake hands, either. you fist bump. >> bill: we have a meet and y greet, 400 people every night. i need to keep a type. >> protect the hands. >> bill: you can do whatever you want. i have to work, i have to write. all right, watters, good job tonight and over the weekend. "the factor" tip tonight, some changes we are making on this program. "the tip" moments away. away i love my shop, but my back pain was making it hard to sleep and open up on time. then i found aleve pm.

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thanks for watching us tonight, i am bill o'reilly. please remember, the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." just three days ago, in an interview with nbc, john lewis of georgia called donald trumpto illegitimate. he followed up by saying he won't attend the inauguration. trump responded with a series of tweets. the networks went wall-to-wall with their coverage of this. you've been watching it. this is a fight democrat started and they seem to enjoy it so far. republicans enjoy it too. attacks like the one from john lewis, will it help the democrats win elections in the future? the democratic party has lost more than 1,000 officeholders nationwide.