thing, but we will investigate. to speak will we will find out why did they get across the road? and we will see you back here in an hour. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert on the final white house press briefing under the obama administration, press secretary josh earnest is expected to speak to reporters any minute now, as he does each day, he will walk up to that lectern, and the timing sets up the final time president obama will hold a news conference as commander-in-chief. that is tomorrow. we are watching it all and will bring you updates as it they hn happen. >> fox news alert, the no-shows keep on coming. at this time, friday, 72 hours from now donald trump will be sworn in as america's 45th president, but the number of democrats planning to skip the inauguration nearly doubling from yesterday, and we could see more. this is "outnumbered," i meghan mccain, here today is harris faulkner, sandra smith, fox news political and legal

analyst, eboni williams, and today's #oneluckyguy, fox news digital politics editor, chris stirewalt, you are outnumbered. >> harris: you know what i've decided? you are worthy of your own emoji and i want one. that look, right there. >> chris: the bacon sizzling is actually my imo g, that one is dedicated to me. >> harris: but i love that look. good to have you. >> chris: it is so good to be here, i would love to see you guys. >> right now, at least 46 house democrats or close to 24% in their caucus boycotting president-elect donald trump's inauguration, that number up sharply from 28 yesterday after mr. trump blasted congressman john lewis for challenging his legitimacy to be the next president. but despite the rancor and bitterness, the incoming administration is offering an olive branch. >> we hope that these democratic members of congress reconsider, they are certainly welcome to the inauguration if they want to contact any of us they are welcome to did i would note that it was government governor pence

of indiana who was the only republican governor to go, he went to president obama's inauguration, may maybe previeg the platform for himself, and he went to show respect and honor. >> meantime, new jersey senator cory booker, who made waves by testifying against attorney general nominee jeff sessions lastly, said he will attend the inauguration but will fight mr. trump's agenda every step of the way. so i'm obvious to going to you first, chris. congressman lewis boycotted president bush's nomination as well. >> chris: he said he wasn't legitimate either. >> meghan: what you make of the rising above democrats boycotting? >> chris: i think they are allowing themselves to be controlled by donald trump to be to a shocking degree. i think their inability to control their feelings and focus on the work of government and focus on things at hand put them in, whether they like it or not, a supplicant position. donald trump is driving the discussion and agenda, he is

calling the tune, and they are dancing to it, and it is a political miscalculation. but it's also, i think this is more important, it's not healthy for the country. people boycotted bush, somebody boycotted obama, this will escalate. this will escalate. it will just get worse and worse, and these institutions can't withstand nonparticipatio nonparticipation. >> harris: sunday night we had 20, and we were up to 28, and now we are at 46. 13 out of all the house democrats giving the inauguration are from california, so the list grows. i would just point out, while you want to get cozy and understand, especially if you are a democrat this type are round, how the electoral college works. those are people who were supposed to go and vote, those electors, according to what they were tasked to do. we only saw, that i have seen confirmed, one faithless electric, and that was for hillary clinton, that person wanted to vote for somebody other than hillary clinton. >> chris: there were five for hillary, one for donald trump.

hillary clinton had a strategy that said we will be faithless ourselves and hope that we can convince people to vote against rome, and the trump electors stayed, and hillary clinton ended up being this effort that the democrats undertook on her behalf diminished her instead of diminishing donald trump, and now they are doing it again. to >> harris: my point of all of this is that legitimate voters pass these electors with what they needed to go to after what was put in place. so the legitimacy as per the voter ship. >> chris: read, and the legitimacy is the president of the united states, you heard joe biden when he brought the gavel down and said, it's over. the democrats are protesting in the house, and he said it's over. get on with it. and because democrats can't get on with it, they continue to be spinning their wheels, spinning their wheels, and relitigating this election over and over again. why did donald trump win? well, i can the come about 50 reasonably good reasons that we could discuss right now. democrats don't like some of

them. republicans don't like some of them right now. big deal. >> meghan, did you havesound of? i thought that was super telling of him saying that these democrats giving the inauguration is not a good sign. can we listen? >> it's a sign of the sort of loosening of the threads of our sort of constitutional system. it's a minor one, but it does show the trust in institutions has declined radically. since the second world war. about the only remaining one that is trusted is the military. and this is not a good sign. >> i thought that was really telling him i was going to bounce back to you, because he went on to say that lewis is a genuine hero, but he should be cognizant of the moral weight that he carries. >> listen, i think charles krauthammer is brilliant, and i completely echo what he just said. i keep thinking about congressman lewis, because as we now know he boycotted george w. bush, he had accused my father of being like george

wallace, he attacked mitt romney, earning up race-baiting issues, now he is attacking trump. and the problem with democrats now is that if all of republicans are evil and none of us are evil. and they are not picking their battles. all of us is george wallace, which is not my words, that is congressman lewis' words, you lose your ammunition to ever actually criticize any policy you disagree with coming up in this administration, and they are really putting them selves in a corner because they just look like partisan hacks. also, i thought you could at least find one person in your this trick that voted for donald trump, how do you think they feel with their congressman boycotting the inauguration? i think it's a bad look all around. >> i totally do not agree with the boycott, i actually think cory booker is really sounding more reasonable on this. look, i'm going to go and respect the inauguration of our new president. however, policy wise, i plan to fight him all the way. that makes sense. chris, you brought up feelings, and i don't is agree with anything that has been set on the couch so far, but i want to go to somebody else's feelings,

and those are the feelings of the president-elect. i can tolerate a lot of things, but hypocrisy is not one of them. so when in our president-elects been someone who for seven years put out questions about the legitimacy of a sitting president, i don't understand, you can do that, that's fine, everybody can do that, but you've got to ride with the consequences of that. so i don't understand why the president-elect seems to be so in his feelings in this moment around somebody, john lewis in this case, questioning his legitimacy. >> all all right, meantime, "new york times" policy columnist paul krugman not only defending john lewis for calling president-elect trump legitimate, but calling it patriotic. he asks, is it okay morally and politically to declare the man about to move into the white house you legitimate? yes, it is. in fact, it's an act of patriotism. patriotism means standing up for your country's values, not pledging personal allegiance to dear leader. he goes on to explain why he thinks it's important to question mr. trump's power to my

writing "talking frankly about how mr. trump gained power isn't just about truth telling, it's up may also help to limit that power. congress will be much more likely to stand up to a rogue wood-be authoritarian executive if its members realize that they will face a political price if they act as his enablers." chris stirewalt, your thoughts? >> chris: well i think the problem that we have right now is we are misunderstanding, or a lot of people are misunderstanding, what legitimate nt legitimate means. into harris' point earlier, he needs the constitutional requirements, he meets them, he was elected, you may not like it but he is legitimately your president, paul krugman, legitimately the president for the whole country. so using the fact that russians hack to the dnc or what the fbi said about hillary clinton as a way to diminish his election, you can do that all you want, but you know what you want to?

you won't stop him and his agenda. right now, paul ryan, donald trump, mitch mcconnell, have got the football. and it looks like open field right in front of them, and the democrats are standing on the sideline saying they didn't really win the coin toss. they didn't really win it, because the heads wasn't really the heads and the tales wasn't really the tales and they are not blocking. cory booker is right, if the democrats want to be viable they have to stop donald trump on issues and agenda items, not just go back and relitigate the election. >> it's a total red herring, it is so distracting for the democrats when they should be, as harris points out, real looking. okay, obvious that we are doing something really wrong that this thing came down the way we didn't foresee it. it really could be taken the time to do that and were taken the time to reflect and think about 2018, a whole host of things that they should doing policywise to position them better than they are. instead, spending all of this time relitigating is not helpful. after four years if all the number cuts can tell their constituents is that we

formidably opposed to the president, that is a disservice to your district and to the american people. >> i have not been tasked with proselytizing, nobody expect me to do that, but i will say it is not an accident that one of the tenets of the bible is to get the stick out of your own eye before you look at your neighbor. i don't think the democrats are willing to do that right now, so they will stay focused in on this. you know what will happen monday? we found that out from the "times of london" interview with mr. trump, he is going to start with his executive orders. they can either get on board or watch from afar, which i guess is what they're going to do with the inauguration, because i haven't heard anybody actually offering up their tickets. >> chris: i use the analogy of if you had a bowling ball in a net and you cut one strand, the weights on the other strands that are holding that ball of increases. when what we are doing now is cutting these threads around our institutions. as dr. kay was saying, we are damaging these things, and the weight is shifting, and i promise you, if the institutions

of this republic fail, it won't be one, and we will say that is too bad, but instead we could experience systematic problems. and democrats need to -- republicans need to, too. >> i think paul krugman is a moron and i don't know why any but he listens to anything he says, ever since he said donald trump was hoping for another 9/11, i don't think he should be allowed to write anymore, i just incorporated is a moron. how much more of his columns do we have to be subjected to? [laughter] >> in in the final days leading up to the inauguration, keep it right here, of course, and on friday you do not want to miss a single minute of coverage, fox news channel will bring you this historic day like no one else can. we are waiting, by the way, the very last white house briefing under the obama administration. this has one formal press secretary says after the last 8-plus years, the media was soft on mr. obama. whether they are changing their tune now because of president-elect donald trump.

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>> let me break in with this breaking news, what we have been

watching for, that is josh earnest on the left of your screen, the white house press secretary and is very last press briefing to the white house press corporate he is giving early personal thoughts at this point. this comes a day before president obama is set to give his final briefing before the press corps as well. we will go live now and wash this together, josh earnest, will they ask tough questions or what will this file? >> i have no relevant washington experience, i was sleeping on the floor of a college buddies apartment that had a spare bedroom, and by spirit, i don't just mean it was an extra bedroom, it was an empty bedroom containing only the items that i had managed to load into my car when i moved here from texas. so it's fair to say that there were too many other people on the tour that night who thought i would stand here in front of you as something other than a tourist. so it's been an extraordinary journey, and this has been an extraordinary chapter. this is the 354th white house daily briefing that i have led

as the press secretary, mark can check me on that number. not every briefing started exactly on time. [laughter] there might have been a briefing or two that might have gone longer than you would have preferred, but you have to admit there was a lot to discuss. we had plenty of shameless plugs for the kansas city royals to squeeze in. there was, of course, the freedom caucuses infamous tortilla gambit. there was congressman steve scalise, who compared himself favorably to david duke. there was the reintroduction of the word "snafu" into the political lexicon as we were working to pass. we discussed at length the various ways you could catch up zika, the various ways you could catch ebola, and the various reasons scientists recommend you vaccinate your kids or you don't catch the measles. jon stewart lit me up as i struggled to expand to giancarlo why a couple of our political ambassadors for some reason had no idea what they are doing.

at least the stewart segment. some of my friends left. president-elect trump, of course, took advantage of the opportunity to light me up as a "foolish guy" who makes even the good news sound bad. and i have to admit that even that one made me laugh. but it wasn't always fun and games around here. there was the time that i tingled with senator schumer about dhs funding for new york city. and the time that i tingled with senator schumer over the iran deal. and the time that i tingled with senator schumer over other legislation bread and the time i tingled with senator schumer over the wisdom of the passing of obamacare. in the time i tangled with him over other things. and the daily briefing, of course, is the most high-profile part of the press secretary's job, but not the only part that matters. the most important part, in many ways, is working with all of you and ensuring that the freedom of

the press, and ensuring the freedom of the press that keeps this democracy vital. when i first entered this role i worked closely with the white house travel office in the department of defense to reform the billing process for your flights and military aircraft, including air force one, making large bills most transparent and smaller. in the last two and half years we have asked china, ethiopia, and cuba to host news conferences, allowing leaders of those countries and their citizens to see firsthand what it means for independent german journalist to hold those in power accountable. of course it was the end of the year conference at the president convened in this room and tony 14 that got as much attention as any other, because president obama called on eight journalist, all women. and finally, everything about this final week makes me think of all the incredible people whom i've been blessed to work with these past eight years. i only have this opportunity because robert gibbs pulled me aside on election night, 2008,

in chicago as the returns are coming into tell me that he wanted me to come work with him at the white house. i'm only here because jay carney, jennifer palmeri and dan pfeiffer supported and encouraged me when i was the deputy, and advocated for me when jay stepped down. i've also benefited from a kitchen cabinet of senior white house officials who got a lot of other important responsibilities who are part of their formal job descriptions. but stepped in to help me out every time i asked for it. that is people like dennis mcdonough and susan rice and jennifer saki, liz allen, jesse lee, cody keenan, and of course, ben rhodes. and i've only been able to do this job because i have an incredible team around me. my assistance over the years, jeff tiller, aunt annette ringel, now desiree barnes, all patiently supported a guy who, let's face it, sometimes isn't so easy to assist. the white house stenographers, dominique, beck dori stein, amy sanz, mike mccormick, kaitlin

young, and their tireless leader, peggy, they work as hard as anybody in the white house and complain about it less than anybody in the white house. [applauding] i think the only team that may contend might be the research team at the white house led by alex and kristin. but i hope you will get a chance over the course of the next week test thank the stenographers for their important week work, because i know they make your lives easier, too. the same go for heater bells, brian gabriel, and sarah, who are at least as effective as any team of press wranglers that we have ever had. my colleagues at nsc, patiently explained to me the things that i didn't know, so that i could, in turn, explain them to you. my team at lower press, patrick, katie, and brenda, is as talented and dedicated as any press team in this town. i begged brandy to join this team when i first got this job, and her performance has far

exceeded the sky-high recommendations i got from people all over town after i interviewed her. they are all, katie, brandy, and patrick, as they say, going places. eric schultz is simply the best deputy that anyone in any field could ask for. he shows up early, stays late, he's vast, that is an inside joke. he is always prepared, unfailingly loyal, his judgment is sought after throughout the halls of the white house not just by me, but by various members of the senior staff, and i'm sure that will be sought after and his bright post-white house future, too, including by me. when you are president of the united states and widely regarded as among the most thoughtful and eloquent speakers on the planet, it must be hard to watch someone go on tv and speak for you. i suspect that's why when the president offered me this job he said he wouldn't watch my briefings. [laughter] but i know he saw parts of them on those very rare occasions he watches cable tv. and he never second-guessed me. not once. he didn't just give me the opportunity of a lifetime.

he had my back every single day, and i'm grateful for that. but there is one person who contributed to my success more than anyone else. and she doesn't even work at the white house. my wife, natalie, was six-month pregnant with our first child when i got this job. she was home with the air conditioning repair man when the president of the united states called me into the oval office to offer when i got back to my desk i saw that i had several missed calls on my cell phone from her. i quickly called her back and told her that i was sorry i missed her calls, but that i had the best possible excuse for missing them. since then, she has extended to me more support and understanding than i could ever ask for. even as she was becoming the best mom and a 2-year-old kid could hope for. when i missed the mark appear she didn't hesitate to tell me about it. and when i got it right the next day, it's usually because i followed her advice. so thank you, sweetheart, for your patience, your loyalty, your counsel, and your love. without it, i would not be standing here. and i'll never be able to make it up to you, but i look forward

to spending more time with you and walker so i can give it a shot. serving as the white house press secretary under president obama has been an incredible honor. i have had the opportunity to advocate for his vision of the country, the same vision that deeply resonated with me when i signed up to work for him in iowa in march, 2007. and while those of us who have been fortunate enough to serve him here will go on to make a difference in new ways, i take heart knowing that all view will still be here. i draw confidence in knowing that you are driven by the same spirit that prompted those young kids that i mentioned at the top of my briefing a couple of weeks ago to move to an iowa town that they had never heard of to organize support for the obama campaign. you have the same determination as a young people who are moving to washington, d.c., today, with no job, with no contacts and no prospects, who are hoping to work in the trump administration. you are motivated in the same way as a career civil servants, like the ones at the department of education, who is trying to stretch her agency's budget to

i'm sure as many as hispanic kids as possible can get a decent education. do you have so much in common with these people because each of you and what you do every day is critical to the success of our democracy. there will be days when you'll show up to work tired. i know the same was true of the obama organizers in iowa. there will be days where you will feel disrespected, and i know many of the young republican staffers who moved to washington looking for a job will feel that way at times, it's hard to pound the pavement in this town when you don't know anybody. there will be days where you will wonder if what you are doing even makes a difference. and i know that our civil servants sometimes wonder the same thing. but i assure you, if you, the most talented, experienced, effective press corps in the world, didn't play your part in our democracy, we would all notice. your passion for your work and its centrality to its success of our democracy is a uniquely american feature of our government.

it's made president obama a better president and a better public servant, and it's because you persevere and you never go easy on us. so even though it's my last day, you better not let up now. so, in that spirit, let me say for the last time standing up here, josh, do you want to get it started with questions? >> [applauding] >> i'm not interrupting because he was saying nice things about you guys, because i largely concur. when i first met josh earnest he was in iowa. i think he was wearing jeans. he looked even younger than he was. and since my entire campaign depended on communications in

iowa i gave him a pretty good once over. and there are a couple of things i learned about him right away. number one, he's just got that all-american, matinee, good looking thing going. and that is helpful, let's face it. face made for television. then the guys name is josh earnest. [laughter] which, if somebody is speaking on your behalf, is a pretty good name to have. but what struck me most, in addition to his smarts and his maturity and his actual interest in issues, was his integrity. there are people you meet who

you have a pretty good inkling right off the bat are straight-shooters. and were raised to be fundamentally honest. and to treat people with respec respect. and there are times where that first impression turns out to be wrong and you are a little disappointed in you see behind the curtain that their spin and hype and, you know, posturing going on. but then there's others who, the longer you know them, the better you know them, the more time you spend with them, the more you are tested under tough situations, the more that

initial impression is confirmed. and i have now known the guy for ten years almost. i have watched him grow and i watched him advance and i watched a mary and i watched and be a father and i watched him manage younger people coming up behind him, and he has never disappointed. he has always been the guy you wanted him to be. and i think that, you know, if you're president of the united states and you find out this is the guy who has been voted the most popular press secretary ever by the white house press corps, that may make you a little nervous, thinking maybe the guy is being too solicitous toward the press. but the fact is, he was worthy

of that admiration. he was tough and he didn't always give you guys everything you wanted, but he was always prepared, he was always courteous, he always tried to make sure that he could share with you as much of our thinking and our policy and our vision as possible. and he tried to be as responsive as possible, and that is how he trained the rest of his team to be. so, of the folks that i have had the great joy and pleasure of working with over the last ten years on this incredible journey, this guy ranks as high as just about anybody ever worked with. he is not only a great press secretary, but, more importantly, he is a really, really good man, and i'm really,

really proud of him. so, josh, congratulations. >> thank you. [applauding] >> and natalie and walker, thanks for putting up with all of this, because they have made sacrifices, too. >> before you go, response to vladimir putin? [laughter] >> where are you going on a friday? >> well, that was awfully generous. so the president will be back tomorrow. he will be standing here and he will be answering your questions. today you're going to settle for me. so. just do want to get assorted customer >> sure, thank you emma i wanted to thank you for your hard work, we have all tussled aggressively with you, and you all continue to engage with us and we appreciate that. following up on the questions,

have the obama's decided where they will be heading with a board the aircraft on friday? >> josh, i can tell you that the first family is looking forward to flying to palm springs, california, on friday. the president vowed to take his family to a destination that is warmer than washington, d.c., on friday, and palm springs fits the bill. this is a community that the president visited on a number of occasions as president of the united states, he and his family have enjoyed the time they have spent there in the past, and they are looking to travel there on friday. >> harris: all right, so there you have a come of the president stepping up just moments ago with a couple of things about josh earnest, the man outgoing as press secretary now. he had two things going for him, the president said. a face made for tv, and his name is earnest, which might be a good quality to have somebody is speaking on your behalf. the toughest question that we saw was as president obama was leaving the room, and josh earnest was asked, sir, before you go, your response to putin?

so, you've been to the same spirit. you know how this works. we with baited breath saw thought maybe this would be tough questions, was that harsh? >> chris: so they are reasonable questions to be asking about the conduct of reporters with the obama administration over the last eight years. but on the last day -- >> harris: that would have been on the table. >> chris: on the last day you get a mulligan, or you get a freebie, because this is, and this is something that right now there are 25 and 28-year-old young people coming to washington, and earnest references people to go work for donald trump or they have never done this before, there from places like clinton, west virginia, there from places all over the country. the little towns and big cities. and they are coming to washington, their lives will change, they will change the

country and things will be different. and here's what i think, because i'm a big dork. i think it's awesome, i think it's great. >> harris: he was one of those guys, that is what he was saying. i remember eight years ago, and he worked his way up the ranks. so former white house press secretary ari fleischer had something to say about calls for media growing tougher, watch this. >> i think the problem began when barack obama was a candidate, and if you remember saturday night live in 2007 pilloried obama's and the media for putting a pillow underneath them instead of covering them. frankly the coverage for eight years was soft, and all of a sudden because of donald trump they want to change their tune. they should have been like this all along. >> harris: meghan? >> meghan: i completely echo this, i think we have been saying that on the couch that last weekend this week. the press corps has 100% been soft on this administration, historically we look back at this time and i say borderline propaganda came out of the majority of the liberal press corps. now they choose to be hard-hitting journalist because someone they ideologically

disagree with is in office. yeah, i see it as a little bit hypocritical, but that being said i think anybody who is going to put any president or government officials feet to the fire and call out it hypocrisyl be a nice change. >> harris: a tenant help to have an advisor to the white house tell us that they were friendly media people where they knew where they could get on a narrative. he was boasting about that. and then when he got called to capitol hill he was not available to go testify about that very thing. >> i don't think any of this is a secret. we were looking back at the briefings and saying -- and that is about to change out of the incoming administration the way they will look. a >> chris: we are getting ready to find out, we will see. >> sean spicer says many times that he plans to change things up. >> chris: and there will be a fight. there was an excellent journalism done in the obama era. overall, the tone and tenor was very flattering, he got more favorable coverage than any

president in recent memory, and his departure, the writing about his departure, todd burnham in "vanity fair," obama belongs to the ages, he writes today. and it has been fawning in a way that if they had written about george w. bush, let's say, people would have said, are you high? what are you talking about? democrats love him and reporters tend to be more likely to be democrats and republicans, so i get all that. but i will say this, if they want to take the white house press corps out of the white house, they are going to have a fight on their hands. that is a 100% fight. donald trump hates the media, stipulated. many in the media hate donald trump, stipulated. this is not the first time that we have seen this. we have seen the nixon and administration, we have seen other ministrations the sort of fight. it will come to a head, but if they tried to kick the white house press corps out of the white house that has been there for generations, good luck. >> and it's less about, i would

think just from a legal standpoint, less about her additionality and more about really what we have been called to do as journalists per the constitution. >> eboni: that is complete we true, and when we talk about free press and access, where are we headed in terms of the true freedom of our press and where it is going to go and what it is going to look like under president trump's and administration? i agree with exactly what chris is saying, you cannot deny that excess, it has to be there. we can argue, and look, i don't disagree. i think the press has been very flattering to president obama. i contested is more than ideological, i think there's something deeper. i think you probably wouldn't have meant as flattering to hillary clinton as they were to even barack obama, so i don't think it's just partisanship. i think there is something that was a lightning in a glass bottle for barack obama for many of these young, aspirational types. but anyway, back to charm, they are going to have to figure that out, what that relationship is going to look like in a way that serves the american people, perhaps it is a fair return to more fairness and objectivity,

but it will have to remain intact. >> harris: the only conversation i have had recently where the words fat, sloppy kiss has not come in. remember when candidate hillary clinton lectured donald trump on accepting the election results? now, the apparent push by some of her former top campaign aides to delegitimize the trump presidency. is this anyway for our nation to move forward? we will talk about it. at's the ? there's a meteor hurtling towards earth. how long until impact? less than a minute. what do you want to do, sir? listen carefully... if we all switch to geico we could save 15% or more on car insurance. i like the sound of that. geico. because saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance is always a great answer.

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>> during that debate, donald said something, well he said a lot of things that were troubling, but he said something truly horrifying. he became the first person running for president, republican or democrat, who refused to say that he would respect the results of this

election. now, that is a direct threat to our democracy. i'm not going to try to call it anything else, because that's what it is. >> that was hillary clinton, you will remember, during the campaign, but now after she lost the election, some of her former campaign operatives don't appear to be following that same advice. instead, they are fueling efforts to delegitimize president electron. the "washington times" pointing out that former clinton spokesman ryan fallon said there is "too much evidence that mr. trump conspired with russian spies trying to rig the election" ." former clinton campaign communication director jennifer palmeri used twitter to circulate mass protest for the inauguration on friday. and a policy advisor on hillary's campaign has changed her twitter photo to the word "resist." i cannot resist going to you.

i mean, you heard it there. >> chris: look, principled opposition to your political foe is just as american as apple pie, it's great, it's appropriate, it's patriotic, it's how the system works. we have a competitive system that is designed. because you know what, it's better than chasing each other around in streets and beating each other with sticks and rocks. we have a system where people can disagree and sort it out. we have elections and then we have votes and it works, it is super-duper. however, if you want to resist, that's great. let the inauguration happen, for goodness sakes. look, if hearings eventually reveal diabolical, sinister plots between the trunk campaign in the kremlin, then murder will out, it will come out, and whatever. whatever is going to happen and in the future will take place, it is tuesday. on friday, donald trump is going to take the oath of office, he will be president for all of the people, it is the truth, and what i do not understand, what i

absolutely fail to understand, is how democrats cannot say, they chose a campaign strategy predicated on, to use a word from academia, othering donald trump. they were going to make him unacceptable, electing donald trump would bring about the apocalypse, it would destroy the country. and now they can't get over their own rhetoric. >> harris: and the word seem to also stick taylor clinton, because she was other than somebody who would not have had a secret server during her time at state. the othering was just complicated for the democrats. my question, though, is your president, you face headwind, president obama, you are stepping up tomorrow with your final news conference. do you take an opportunity to get on that road where literally you could drive down the center lane and honk your horn all day long, the high road, and say -- >> that is what reince priebus is pushing, they are saying step up, grow up, get everybody together. this is the day america's post

to come together. >> meghan: i think you're getting these people too much credit, you are the optimist, i have a cold, dark heart on this couch. all of the staffers are having a really hard time getting jobs, there are reports about it. who is going to hire brian fallon? he is a terrible spokesperson, these people were terrible at their job. this is an epic, historic loss that they will be tarnished with for the rest of their careers, i think they are try to and not to croissants ability and blame everybody else, russia, whatever. couldn't admit that you are in a horrible campaign with a horrible candidate. >> if you're going to tried to say for yourself, at least admit you lost. >> here's the hypocrisy i talked about earlier all over again. it doesn't look any better on hillary clinton's camp. and here is the issue, that clip that we introduced her with, that is called impeachment. literally play that and let her impeach herself. literally, that is the worst kind of thing. look, do i think president obama

is going to take the opportunity here? if i'm putting money on it, probably not. >> what if it was chris's money? >> chris: wait a minute. >> i wish you would, i don't even know if people would listen at a party, but it would be a nice opportunity. >> harris: that is an interesting point, and with brian fallon and the rest looking for jobs, room of the president president just through all of them under the bus. >> they should go to hollywood, a lot of ex-liberal people end up in hollywood, trust me i lived there for a little bit. >> after backlash from feminists, the leaders of a woman's protest march planned the day after the inauguration are now dropping a pro-life group as an official partner. but doesn't the march claim to speak for all women? where is the tolerance? they also know you need to get your annual check-up. now with one touch using the mycigna app you can find a doctor in your plan's network to save money.

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>> leaders of the women's march on washington protesting president-elect trump on saturday are now dropping a pro-life feminist group as an official sponsor. this after backlash from other feminists, march organizers saying, "we want to assure all of our partners as well as participants at we are pro-choice, as clearly stated in our unity principles.

we look forward to marching on behalf of individuals who share the view that women deserve the right to make their own reproductive decisions." the antichoice organization in question is not a partner of the women's march in washington, we apologize for this error. the pro-life group, the new way feminist, are still bowing to marge, respondent, "this one goes out to the women's march on washington, just yesterday we were together, but it's okay, we understand, not everyone is strong enough to stand up to the haters. luckily we have had some practice, either way, see you saturday." so, i am always hesitant to join anything labeled feminist anymore because it's always sort of interpreted as pro-choice and liberal. feminism means that you're pro-choice and liberal now, right? >> harris: yeah, i'm going to lille do all my time to you. >> chris: don't i just know about all of this. when i got my women's studies major in kansas city. no, look, we've watched this march eat itself before, already. there was a discussion about

intersection and about white racism, that white women participating in the march needed to understand their privilege and that stuff, and i thought, while this isn't going well. now they are kicking out pro-life folks. and what's interesting, democrats cannot understand how they lost a donald trump, even as they are repeating the things in real time bread even as they are doing the things that caused their defeat. on this one, you would think that they would say, any ladies, any guys, anybody who wants to come out and join our march, get out here. >> let me help you with that, the word is americans. >> chris: that's right, anybody who wants to come here and do this, because the message at the outset was simple, we oppose donald trump's policies, the day after his inauguration. >> let's be clear, they are not calling this an anti-trump protest. >> chris: this is on behalf of women. >> is the day after the inauguration, but the group that they are excluding has voiced concern, calling donald trump a misogynist, so why wouldn't they include them? >> that is why this is really

ridiculous, they are getting in their own way. so one is pro-choice, actually, you are right, meghan, that is what feminist has become. those of us who know what the word means means it is actually believing in the equal application of rights for women, not any more complicated with that. so when you have somebody in alignment with people in this issue around donald trump and his feminist attitudes, what have you, get in lockstep on one accord. >> harris: but it's more politically advantageous for liberals to divide the line for feminism, to say that if you love women and want to rethink for them you are on our side. if you don't, then you are on the other side, and there is no gray area, so you can't be pro-life and also feel the way we do, blah, blah, blah. and i say americans because this is a free country. it is only apparently not free if you want to march on saturday. >> there is a long history, though, of people -- [laughs] but there is a long, long history of the media and

feminist organizations excluding strong, pro-life women, because it goes against their narrative of what it means to be a modern, empowered woman. i am 100% proud, pro-life woman, i am also a career woman and all these other things, and it doesn't go in with the narrative that the liberal media wants about what women are. and i'm not surprised by this. i have met a few people who are going to this march, no one can explain to me exactly what this is for, except being against donald trump. >> can i tell you that the purpose is to send "a bold message that women's rights are human rights." >> but to a lot of us, it is just the absolute hypocrisy. it is why they're going to exclude a whole swath of women in the country. >> and they are getting in their own way, because the more narrowly you define "feminist" you do yourself a big disservice. >> harris: female, women, it's going to be a part where women can't be part of it.

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watch us live on facebook at facebook.com/"outnumbered." we are back at noon eastern, hope you will be here as well. "happening now" starts right now. >> jon: we start with this fox news alert, getting some brand-new details on president-elect trump's travel plans ahead of the inauguration on friday. >> jenna: incoming white house press secretary sean spicer confirming he will head to the nation's capital thursday in preparation for the big day. we are covering all of the news "happening now." >> two days into the election, donald trump and president obama, both antagonist, met each other for the first time. >> to see the two of them in the oval office was the final moment of how in the world did this happen and what have we just gone through? >> jenna: we talked to that the maker of the new film on division in our country before and after the election as one big question looms, how can we find unity? plus president-elect