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make sense of it now. good night. >> this is a fox news alert. three days before leaving office, president obama has commuted the majority of former soldier chelsea manning's 35 year sentence for leaking army documents. the sentence was supposed to end in 2048. it will now end on may 17th. i was taping the podcast about 20 minutes ago and i looked up and saw the breaking news and i thought greg gutfeld was going to have a lot to say about this. >> i'm not a fan of chelsea manning, that's for sure. why did this happen? why did this happen? because when she was a he leaked incredible information, about embassies, our intel.
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he was a hero. then he became a she and there became a different kind of hero, a hero in the transgender community and in the media because that is admirable. put that together. how could she lose? then you have this concern about her health, that her health is under threat in prison. but is the threat to her health because of herself? i think she has attempted to kill or herself in number -- a number, twice. you want to get pardoned. if this were just an average guy that had leaked this stuff and went to jail as an average guy and didn't go and have a sex change and become less a
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pathetic character, with that person be treated differently? i think the person would be treated differently than chelsea manning. >> megan, can you tell me who tweeted that? wikileaks. five days ago wikileaks tweeted that if president obama were to take this action for chelsea manning then julian assange would agree to extradition to the united states, where he has some new fans. >> clarify, did assange say if it was commuted or pardoned? >> i don't know. a commutation means you get out of jail. >> the guilty verdict stands on your record and the pardon says guilt is removed. that could be a distinction that assange could say i'm not coming out of hiding. >> asking why would assange com come -- >> manning made assange's career. manning delivered all of these documents to wikileaks. if it wasn't for manning, you wouldn't have assange. >> her name was bradley manning
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at the time. this seems to negate the democrats frustration with assange and wikileaks over the russia stuff because what do they like more? do they prefer chelsea manning get the pardon they've been asking for? or are they mad at wikileaks for the russia hack? >> we were covering this on o'reilly pretty closely. i'm surprised by this action. people actually thought he would pardon bowe bergdahl and take a pass on chelsea manning. what's interesting is, yes, that's true and that could still come. he has been quite active in historic they probably one of the most prolific partners -- pardoners. chelsea manning actually confessed all of this at the court-martial. so i wasn't myself. i had a lot of issues. therefore i acted based on that and i was unable to make a good decision or understand the quality of the decision-making.
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i don't buy that. >> can i ask you a legal question? they are telling me that what wikileaks tweeted if president obama granted clemency. that's not a pardon. that's not a commutation. >> maybe he's referring to it more in terms of a different country, the language. you can parse words on it. some people are saying with a pardon? no, she was not pardon. they're going to have to negotiate that. is it enforceable. is that a contract in writing? he doesn't have to go through it did, assange, and come over here. this is interesting. if that is the motivation for why president obama did it, and i agree with greg. if the situation were reversed and this was somebody who did this, like a snowden type, would president obama do that? is it because he was sympathetic to his constituency, the lgbtq
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community. >> conceivably it would have been an option. if you are concerned about her well-being, conceivably could be transferred to a civilian female prison to carry out the sentenc sentence. the feedback i got immediately from people in the military and the intel world was that this feels like a kick in the face from president obama on his way out. >> he, at the time he was a he, copied of hundreds of thousands of logs. dossiers. he put people at risk. when he became a she, became a sympathetic person. >> a low level intelligence person. >> so was ed snowden. >> snowden had access to nsa documents for this guy had access to embassies, a few other things. i'm not so sure it's as big an intelligence leak as we've seen
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recently. both coming from here end. >> you don't remember the coverage of this? >> do i remember? >> no? it was a big deal. >> far more relevant, important, these leaked documents. 250,000 cables. describing what our military activities were in different parts of the world. you juxtapose that to ed snowden who leaked some nsa activity, the unconstitutional search and seizure of all americans. it's different. its it's data mining of people versus where our military people are stationed and what they are doing. >> including translators that were helping the united states who then were targeted. >> most of the coverage i was laid up. >> i think that was before that. >> let me ask you something you
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do know about for sure. you were there and you'll remember. the marc rich pardon. on his way out the door when president clinton decided to do the marc rich pardon. anybody here, trivia? who was the pardon attorney at the justice department? eric holder. remember. that really stuck to president clinton like glue forever. >> i'm not trying to apologize for obama at all. i think this is one of the stranger pardons or whatever you want to collect. i don't understand what he wants to get in the middle of this when we are in the middle of a lot of discussions about intelligence leaks coming from the soviet union having to do with the trump presidency. there's a lot going on. i'm not so sure i would use this as a time to do this. male or female.
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>> these soviet union. clemency meaning leniency. you can argue about this back back-and-forth and say but it's lenient if you are letting get someone get out in may. is this because president obama is calling julian assange's bluff? is that we are basing this on? inappropriate reason. >> the most egregious thing about president clinton's pardoning of mark rich was that, a major donor to the clinton foundation. her husband made a billion dollars selling oil to the armenians. that guy should have been in jail for a long time, certainly not allowed to do business here for a long time. >> best friends with the clintons. >> had someone in the white house, chief of staff, who was in favor of doing that. it did stick. and i think this will stick to obama for a while. there's a lot of other pardons that will stick.
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>> what about the crack dealers and meth dealers? >> that's another offensive part. supposed to be people with not any violence associated in their convictions and almost all of them have weapons, gun charges along with drug dealing. highly inappropriate. >> crack and methamphetamine stuff shouldn't happen. the marijuana pardons i thought -- >> crack dealers destroy communities. the only way crack dealing ended was when the community turned on them because they couldn't stop. nobody could do anything. the communities had to sheen these people out of their communities and get them out of there. i understand we've had a huge decline in crime overall over the last three or four decades. that leads to a false sense of security. you know what, 30, 40 years old. what are they going to do? get them out now. >> those aren't proper criteria. >> to anyone who is thinking about leaking state secrets, when you know.
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not just a couple documents. locations, names, hundreds of thousands of diplomatic cables and you get commuted. >> you get out of jail. basically free. >> there's a bigger question here and i don't know if it's ever going to get answered. why did obama do this? >> hopefully we will get answers but we will stay on the story. >> disses a -- this is a romantic, heroic figure. a romantic, heroic figure for leaking documents that exposed american injustice worldwide, then had a sex change, has a victim identity status. put that together, you've got a hero. >> did he and does she check all boxes obama is trying to leave? >> and he gets to beat assange.
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call your bluff. >> we will probably get more information about this because tomorrow is president obama's last press conference. >> let's hope. if i was -- >> bob is back. the senate confirmation hearingr betsy devos, president-elect rome's nominee for secretary of education is about to get underway in capitol hill. you can watch it all on the. up next, the left is trying to delegitimize president-elect trumps presidency.
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put it in your calendar next to chain self to a tree. who's going to be there? by usual fools who protest while ignoring the inhumanity around them. they say trump is sexist, homophobic, racist while defending actual racists. they are outrage isn't fueled by real suffering or they would defend jihadism. mayor de blasio will be there. so will mark ruffalo. i get the concern over trump. he is prone to conspiracy. he is kind of big ego. in a word, he's like you, the celebrity. that could explain your anger. he did it and you didn't. now you cool kids are mad. like this variety inauguration cover. have you seen anything more self-important? look at michael moore.
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are you done throwing up? as for the divide, back cover shows you a uniform media liberal establishment. america tolerates you but they don't take you seriously. put those clown noses back on and make us laugh. that's all you are good for. >> bob. >> they are coming here to protest. >> protest is much as you possibly can. i said this yesterday. i was not upset at this guy's inaugural grade let him have it. the day after there is going to be plenty of protests and the day after that, i -- >> he's not done. >> you have three more days. >> after that i've got four years. i said yesterday. >> you're going to like this guy by the end. >> no, i'm not.
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but i am waiting for his son-in-law to bring peace to the middle east. that's going to be one of the big things to look forward to. >> how can you protest a guy who isn't even in office? >> have you listened to him? >> yes. >> liberal street cred. the more you protest, the more you create attention. >> can i add another thing? it's not just street cred. it's about follow the money. your future in terms of rules, contracts, being able to get the auditions you want. that's why -- this secret society of conservatives. if it was known they were conservative they couldn't get any jobs. >> look at the hypocrisy. can you imagine if hillary clinton had won and if people were carrying on like this and saying they weren't
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going to show up and they were going to boycott the inauguration and protest and all these things come people will go insane. the left would go insane and it would be appropriately disrespectful. just like there are people, plenty of them come upset when barack obama won in 2008 but you didn't see anything like this. people were respectful of our democratic institutions come out of the fact that we have a democracy and vote and everybody gets to vote that is registered. give the man his inauguration. show some respect for the office. and then it's open play. >> you can show respect to the office by not upsetting his inaugural. after that, the fact of the matter is there are 66 million people out there who voted for hillary clinton, including myself who believe of it hadn't been for comey and the russians, donald trump would not be present. >> it's too late. you could have picked a better candidate. >> comey was the left hero two
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weeks before the election. whatever, a month, saying i don't recommend any indictment for hillary clinton. this is the greatest director in history. >> he mishandled everything. it was terrible. >> went from hero to go to a couple weeks. >> that the weekend before he d to release more stuff about anthony weiner. i tell you that. >> he probably would have done better than hillary. just saying. >> probably could've done better tweets, instagram's. you all have got to seriously understand it's not all liberals. there are 66 million people out there who don't like this guy. i haven't seen anything like this since nixon. >> okay. >> used to be a liberal democrat out of new york. >> why did he win counties that
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barack obama won? got more democrats. >> okay it's the bikers for trump. >> he got the right message to those people. >> you are hitting on it. it's not the russians. it's not comey. >> he worked harder than hillary clinton. >> you don't think it had anything to do with that? have you lost your mind? >> when it was going on, these podesta emails about recipes. >> it was a lot more than that. there was a lot more than that. >> you know what? hillary coasts through the whole election, doesn't work hard enough. >> can i mention, what bob is saying there is a partisan divide. is there a chance for trump to
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even make any headway with these people? >> i think emotions will settle down. they governing will begin. the governing is going to be hard. >> governing is going to begin? governing by tweet. i want to see the policies. aren't you all excited? >> he said health care for everyone. he said trillion dollars in infrastructure. >> bob, taking care of minority communities. >> if you believe he's going to have health care for everyone? "alice in wonderland." >> he's going to go for that over free-market principles. >> did a wonderful job with the germans. the last of them and said 35% tariff on your cars. there is an idea. >> went to the germans say? try building better cars. >> that would be a good idea. >> i will be honest. >> have a bad morning, --
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♪ >> bob. we are back lives. "fox & friends" cohost ainsley earhardt got a special one-on-one interview with president-elect donald trump which will air tomorrow morning. in this clip, mr. trump response to the democratic lawmakers including congressman john lewis who are boycotting his inauguration. >> congressman lewis is saying
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he didn't remember that he skipped the inauguration. >> he conveniently doesn't remember. i can tell you when i was at the inauguration's, you don't forget something like that. he got caught and it's pretty bad. and it's making him look bad, frankly. this is a very important time. this is a transition and a very important transition. especially because things will be done beautifully but they'll be done differently than they have been over the past eight years. and i can say over the past 16 years. there will be a difference. we have to have a smooth transition, and president obama understands that very well, and that's why he's been so gracious, but he understands that. i think for him to have grand standard. i think he grant standard. john lewis. he got caught in a bad lie. let's see what happens. as far as other people not going, that's okay because we need seats so badly. i hope they give me their
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tickets. i will give them to other people. i hope they're going to give us their tickets. >> well, congratulations to ainsley earhardt. gets the sit down right before the historic inauguration that's going to take place on friday. and little bit of pushback here. people talking about celebrities not being a part of it. i know drew carey is at one of the inaugural balls. >> congratulations to ainsley. good for you. it blows me away the list of congresspeople. i'm not sure any senators have said it. democratic congressman, 45 this morning. >> 58 by the time we got down to the show. 58 congresspeople are not showing up. that is disrespectful. remind you of this when you're up for reelection in 2018. we will remind you. >> the list will be in writing. it's like the bandwagon
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disrespecters. to speak of the democrats who have decided not to go pay no political price for not going. they get good press in their districts. they can hang together. they pay no price. there's a lot of things you do in washington when you are an elected leader, like go to the state of the union. if you are a republican, going to the fifth one of president obama. you are not going there to cheer or because you like the message necessarily. democracy is a participatory sport. i think mr. trump is right. give the tickets away. one thing i noticed about the transition, inauguration this week was boris epstein, one of the spokespersons for the transition said they wanted to keep the ticket prices at $50 so that they weren't getting to be astronomical so that more people could be able to attend that wouldn't necessarily have attended before. >> one of the most amazing things he said was john lewis
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told a lie. from this guy? are you kidding? i've got an idea. first of all, this is somebody who got his beat in. what did trump ever do? maybe get hit by a board of his construction site. >> doubtful. >> barnum & bailey circus is ending. it's sad but it's ending in the next week or so. the elephants could go and they could participate. they could be right there. >> there's no elephants. that's the reason they're having to close. >> no. >> you were laid out during that time. >> let the acrobats come. let the rest of them come. you can't blame these people for not going. i agree with dana. a lot of this is business on their part. a lot of it, you guys will not accept the fact that we are angry about this.
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>> can i explain why this does nothing but help donald trump? right now they are saying that according to this poll donald trump is less popular than past presidents at the time of inauguration. he has at 40% favorable. obama is at 79%. as you keep doing this more and more and create panic and hysteria, make people unhappy, you help donald trump because all he can do is pleasantly surprise you. he can't let people down if people aren't expecting anything. you are saying i hate this guy. he's terrible, awful. he's going to end up doing something and everybody's going to go -- >> you know what bob? >> a week from now. >> that's pointless too. >> i agree. i think they should probably go. >> maybe this is an excuse for they just want to sleep in. >> they should go. they look like spoilsport on
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crybabies. early in barack obam, if you disagreed with anything he had -- his policy, then you are racist. can you imagine boycotting or not showing up at his inauguration eight years ago? everyone would be called a racist. get out there. you don't have to clap. just show up. >> i will repeat what john lewis said. i think he's an illegitimate president. >> i don't think that was a good idea. you're probably about to find out. >> the president-elect said he likes his odds. the sure to check out "fox & friends" tomorrow for ainsley's entire interview with president-elect trump. we approach life...
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♪ >> welcome back. time for the fastest 7 minutes on television. seven spirited minutes. first up, green day has used their music and videos to make political statements and they are added again. green day released another protest video. this time against president-elect donald trump. they may have crossed the green ingrained line of acceptable art as protest rules. ♪ >> ♪ we live in troubled times times ♪ ♪ we live in troubled times
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♪ we live in troubled times >> images of kkk members and a trump-like figure. greg is the expert but i want to go to bob. >> well, you know, i wouldn't buy it. i agree with you. i think it's in bad taste. that is coming from me. >> there you go. >> that's saying something. >> they can do this. that's what they do. i wish johnny ramon was alive to kick the crap out of these brats. green day is as edgy as justin bieber. where were they for the last eight years? they wouldn't speak truth to power to president obama but now they are back being radicals. shot up raid i think they are almost my age at this point. >> grow up.
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>> other artists, i didn't hear any of them protesting the drone programs. >> come no. president obama was the most lethal of all time. >> without the ability to question him. >> the hypocrisy. >> i'm a first amendment advocate. last week we spent an entire week talking about a painting that a 7-year-old did that won a contest that was taken down because people were offended by it. i think americans could have a stronger stomach for art as protest. >> stephen colbert, career on life support, trying to get attention by mocking donald trump. >> ringling brothers and barnum and bailey is officially shutting down.
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apparently the circus doesn't think they can compete against a trump presidency. >> the problem with that is, i saw that joke by and coulter on sunday right after they announced they were closing down. within minutes, she said they can't compete with the left. >> i see that happen a lot with these late-night shows. i think their writers, it's the writers. that's a good one. no one is going to know that and coulter tweeted that. i will use it. the story is really about the circus. nobody goes to the circus anymore because the circus is on your phone. you have the whole world. the most devious, twisted acts you can see on your laptop, phone. donald trump should call the circus and save those jobs. >> make the circus great again. >> this circus isn't supposed to be deviant. it is for children, greg.
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>> there are animals there, bob. to go no more animals. tigers and lions and bears. oh, my. what is wrong with that joke? i think it's a very funny joke. >> it was a fine joke. we have missed the point about this barnum and bailey thing. it was the left and animal rights people who said the animals, the elephants were being harmed. they had to take the elephants out of the show. people stopped coming. what happened is that you have less money available and the education that's pushing that money towards conservation for elephants. the left ends up cannibalizing themselves. >> the first family will be retiring in a few days. what have they planned for the weekend? palm springs vacation. >> the first family is looking forward to flying to palm springs california on
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friday. the president vowed to take his family to a destination that is warmer than washington, d.c., on friday. palm springs fits the bill. >> they have been back in d.c. for a couple weeks after that huge hawaiian vacation. i wonder if they are taking air force one. the answer is yes. the president will take air force one to california for a grand total of $2.4 million. >> it is not called air force one anymore. >> is still going to cost the taxpayers. >> i know why he's going there. he is flying buying a place there. the gulf is fantastic in those communities. i think it's awful. >> where do you want to go? do you want to go to nome? >> he can go to a warm area and
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play golf. your time in warm places. >> no, that's the tanning booth. >> what do most men do when they retire? they play golf. what if you've been playing golf for the last eight years? he should go back and work. he should get a job. >> community organizing. >> i'm not going to give the president any grief for taking a vacation period he is going to palm springs. it's not called air force one. he will no longer be present as of noon. it's fair for him to be able to go back and forth. >> most presidents do fly out, former presidents. >> you have the right to take that last trip on the american taxpayers' dime. >> let's move on. we are getting lots of your feedback on the return of our
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>> it's great to be back with my friends at "the five." since the moment i walked into the studio yesterday, many of you, our loyal viewers, have been sharing your thoughts about my return. here are some of the tweets. beckel is back and all is right in the world. thank you, jason. maureen tweets "welcome back, bob. we missed you. you are so completely wrong with everything you say but you are still a great guy." thank you. glenn says "what is that clicking sound heard across america? people turning the channel to fox news." not everybody is thrilled, including eric. michael writes -- #becois back
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>>washenotloonieenough? beckel is back and he still a jerk. i can say there's probably a lot of fans out there who agree. if you voted for trump, you are really going to be happy with me. >> this is turning into wwe? like a wrestler. >> i am coming for you. >> i'm going to follow him every place he goes. >> on twitter. >> those were nice, don't you think? >> i predicted. first they were like where's bob? we missed bob. then can you get bob out of her here? you have to have a thick skin. in that seat there. credit to you. it's going to be an interesting four years.
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>> is going to be an interesting eight years. >> i don't think so. no, no, no. >> trump. eight years. >> what he changes the rules, it's going to be 16 years. >> he is going to buy the white house. >> looking these other ones that i can't can ivanka run for president? wasn't born in the united state united states. >> talking about the wife, not his daughter. >> ivana and melanie is another wife. >> she's the one with the clothing? >> let's talk about tiffany. >> ivanka has a nice clothing line. melania, his current wife, she's
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a model. >> she has very nice clothes. >> those were some nice people. we surprised everybody. you surprised us, and it's been fun. feels like you never left. >> doesn't it? it's like that. >> when you went to bed last night were you thinking, what have i gotten myself into? >> he never went to bed. >> 12:02 on friday, the world is going to change for me and eric. that's okay. eric is going to be there. >> this is like groundhog day. >> monday morning everyone is going to have health care and we are going to have peace in the middle east. >> remember when you said obama makes it hard to defend him. >> eric is going to defend him. >> the president-elect.
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>> we have to go, bob. >> one more thing is up next.
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♪ >> it is time for one more thing. i posted something on fox news.com close web, an excerpt about my last day at the white house and inauguration day. josh and ernest gave his final briefing today. he had some humor there. not to be outdone, president obama showed up and
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photobombed it. here's a clip from my package that i did in december. it's about what he plans to do next. do you know what you want to do after you leave? >> spending more time at home is a given. one of the things i want to do is read a book that doesn't have anything to do with politics. >> i have a good one. it's about a dog. >> the other aspiration i have is to work on my golf swing. >> more golf. >> congratulations to josh earnest who conducted himself so well at the podium. looking forward to sean spicer who will start, i suppose, on monday. >> i thought he did a very good job for the president. >> let's keep talking about him. >> you're going to like this. you love "golden girls" too. >> i want to wish a very happy birthday to betty white.
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she is 95 years old. she was shocked to see you were still available and breathing. let's listen to betty describe an interview she did with katie couric. >> 95 years old. i am so blessed with good health and faculty. i've got memories and all that. you can't really expect that. i am the luckiest old broad on two feet. >> she is so cute. bob bob finds her attractive. you like her nose. eric, you are next. >> come to realize that every time someone vows to keep jobs in america because of donald trump, we call it trump-onomics.
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walmart today. gm. how about hyundai? 50%. $3.1 billion investment. boeing's ceo met with trump and said it was a very good meeting. anytime jobs are staying in america, we will talk to you about it. >> there is a new whiteboard, and it's going to be. no. donald trump takes a lot of credit for building this ice-skating rink in central par central park. and it's got people ice-skating, where is donald? is there a picture of donald? >> this is the worst whiteboard i've ever seen. >> he took a lot of credit and complains all the time about how government was not doing its job and he can take care of it. what did he do? he put it out to a canadian firm to do it. >> and it got built in three months. can i do mine? >> yes. >> i have a new column out
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called stone age liberals. you're going to love it. it's the best one i've done in a while. check it out. that's it. >> set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." that's it for us. "special report" is next. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. paul ryan said "this is outrageous." late this afternoon president obama commuted the sentence of a former army intelligence analyst convicted of releasing classified materia material, military and national security information. chelsea, now identifying as a woman, formerly bradley manning has been imprisoned for seven years of a 35 year sentence. she received a sex change operation while in custody. she will now be freed on may 17th. it is a decision that is causing quite a stir, as you might imagine, in washingto

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