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tonight. in moments, charles krauthammer joins us on the manning story along with news that you have heard about tonight, the president also ordered the release of the terror leader who was tied to more than 100 attacks on u.s. soil back in the '90s. first, let's go to chief intelligence correspondents catherine herridge with the fallout on manning. catherine, what can you tell us night? >> thank you, martha. manning's lawyer said to the leaks never heard the united states. but tonight, two intelligence sources confirm to fox news that after mattel military reports went on a killing spree, taking out everyone who seem to fit the description of informants working with the united states. that is not to say human spies were killed, but the sources said there is no question people died and it made recruiting human sources that much harder for the u.s. in the future. i was in the courtroom seven years ago when manning, now chelsea manning, was sentenced to 35 years for giving classified information to wikileaks. including videos, incident reports from afghanistan and

iraq, detainee, military reviews from the guantanamo camp, as well as state department cables. mr. obama's decision does mean manning can be freed as early as may 17th. the founder of wikileaks, julian assange, told fox news in a recent interview that he would come to the united states if manning was freed. today, a former justice department official told fox news that leniency for manning for mr. obama would make it harder to bring charges against assange in the future. >> the united states government asserts we are going to pardon manning for those offenses, i think it makes it that much tougher to then say, but we are going to drop the hammer on the person who published that information. >> writing in a tweet, a wikileaks welcomed the decision and to thank everybody who made the impossible possible. but it was silent on this promise by assange to come to the u.s. in the future, martha. >> martha: catherine, thank you very much. joining me now, dr. charles krauthammer. fox news contributor.

charles, if i look at this and i have this right, chelsea manning revealed classified government documents that many say put people's lives in danger. she will serve a function of her sentence. but the leaking of john podesta's emails is an absolutely unpardonable offense. according to benny. your thoughts? >> i think you are pointing to the hypocrisy the administration, the president, gets all exercised over the wikileaks from the campaign, which essentially amounted to the private emails of john podesta, gossip, backbiting, and kind of a party, interparty revelations. that's it. nobody died. these were not national security secrets. yet, obama orders a report to be on his desk before he leaves office. gets very exercised. imposes sanctions on the russians. here, we have a guy, manning, a woman now, who released

information that had to do with our actions and ongoing wars in iraq, afghanistan, including the identification of people who were working for us, if any of whom we can presume were hunted down as a result. i think it is simply astonishing that the president, at the same time, would be so exercised over the podesta releases, through wikileaks, and then, be extending, commuting the sentence of chelsea manning. >> martha: you know, there is a couple of things that are at work here. one is that many people believe that the sentence was too long for what it was and all of the arguments said that -- it catherine just pointed out, and you have made, point to the fact that people's lives were put at risk. some people still say they believe it was too long, the sentence. the other issue is that this was a troubled young man, now woman, as you point out, and there is a sensitivity to the transgender issue that may have swayed this

decision and the white house, and terms of how this prisoner was treated, living in an all-male facility. if any of that -- is any of that relevant? as sensitive as everyone may be to the issues in the personal strife, is it relevant in the decision to commute? >> think about what that means. this is bizarre. in other words, you can betray your country, publisher secrets that endanger our soldiers, our allies, our interests, and then, when you present with a gender problem, that gets you sprung out of a sense of sorrow or pity on the part of the officials. if you want to make a full-blown argument for mental illness, perhaps this person is incompetent, something like that, have them end up in a psychiatric facility, sort of a john hinckley, i can understand that, although, i doubt that is going to be the rationale we hear from the administration tomorrow. >> martha: i want to talk

about this lopez case, as well. his sentence is also likely to be commuted. he is 74 years old, he's served 35 years of a sentence. let me just remind whatever he wanted. he was part of the f al and back in the 1970s and '80s. he proclaimed in front of a judge, a i am an enemy of the u.s. government. he was fighting for freedom for puerto rico. one of the many things they did was the bombing of the tavern down and the wall street area where four people lost their lives. they were killed in a scene that was echoed years later on 9/11 and many ways. it was considered the first terrorist attack on wall street. why would this person's sentence be up for commutation? >> well, i am not sure i know the answer. and i will speculate. look, this was a very bad guy. more than 200 attacks in the '70s in '80s. the clintons tried to spring him

late in the bill clinton administration. but he refused to sign a document that would have expressed remorse. this was a very hard-core terrorist. now, why was he released? i would speculate that this might be the last shoe to drop in the normalization sellout to castro. the f al and was not just sort of a puerto rican independence terrorist group, after all, puerto rico has had referenda on the issue. but he was also -- the group was also, like just about all the other bad guys in the western hemisphere, supported by and close to the castro regime. so, this could be, who knows, we saw just a few days ago, a change in policy, cuban immigration. this could have been the last payback. what did we get in return? to zero. a lot of people would like him

back from cuba, they would like that to be part of any such deal, really interesting angle on that, charles. thank you very much. good to see you tonight. >> my pleasure. >> martha: more breaking news, events underway right now, the next trump cabinet hearing is happening as we speak for betsy devos, education secretary is the job that she is up for. a hearing that could get very personal very quickly. plus, five dozen democrats in congress have decided to boycott president-elect donald trump's inauguration. trump supporter and former house speaker newt gingrich here with a method for those lawmakers and what he believes is going on in the chaos that exists leading up to the trump inauguration, when we come back. when we come back.

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millions of dollars in contributions to the republican party, that you would be sitting here today? >> mrs. p's at six, your family has a long history of supporting anti-lgbt causes. >> i have never believed in that. >> martha: here now, fox news contributor. i don't know why i said former. you are still around. thank goodness. former speechwriter for president george w. bush, president of the university of chicago, welcome to both of you gentlemen. great to have you with us tonight. >> good to be with you. >> martha: it seems, austin, there is a heck of a lot of focus on how much money she has and how much your money has come i'm not sure what that has to do with educating students in this country. >> yes and no. >> i don't know either. >> it has been a turnover of financial records, what are in the financial records could be relevant. i mean, there are questions about financial participation and student lenders and things like that.

as you know, i was confirmed, i served in the cabinet, i had to turn over many financial documents and they had hearings and the senators are asking you about those financials and what they are doing here is having a hearing and they will not be having another hearing after they get to those financial documents. i actually think that one of the group that you presented, that one was somewhat relevant. >> martha: these are things that you've not handed over, mark, why wouldn't she do that to get that out of the table before she went in there for the grilling, and then, what have perhaps been able to focus more on education? >> i'm sure she has handed over -- she said she handed over everything that she was required of. it is the office of government ethics that has not submitted its report. well, what is happening in this hearing. we have an education system, public education system that is failing millions and millions of students across the country right now. senator lieberman, when he introduced mrs. devos, he

pointed out that there are more than 1200 public schools in the country serving more than 1.1 million students i don't graduate even one-third of their students. that is a public education catastrophe. they are sitting there, asking her about her wealth and about conversion therapy, i mean, with all respect, if you are not good enough or smart enough, gosh darn it, people don't really like you and you talk like that. >> i would be a little careful. i mean, i think it was perfectly appropriate for senator franken, for example, to start in asking her questions about her experience with higher education, with student debt, and things of the sort. >> martha: let's cut to the chase. as mark points out, you look at the numbers come of the united states of america is 19 among developed nations out of 35 developed nations. we are 20 out of 35 developed nations. that is an astonishing number, the fact that we are somewhere in the middle of the pack says that we are denying so many

children and does country the kind of education that they deserve. what we do know is that the institution, the way that it has been run, and many places in this country, is under the stranglehold of teachers unions, and has not allowed students to progress. that is the main discussion here because charter schools that want to open and enter studies, austin, have a tough time because -- >> they are going after her, martha, because with all of these personal questions and personal attacks, because they really are defending the indefensible, a system that puts the interest of adults ahead of the interests of children. instead of -- >> that's not true. >> ahead of the interest of children, when children are not graduating, when we have those kinds of test scores, betsy devos is a social justice warrior who is committed to fighting for core and low income families and making sure that ts that wealthy families have to their children. >> martha: if you are a mom of a child and an inner city and you don't have very many option,

many of them can't go to a school where they don't have to worry about being attacked or hurt, during the course of the day, then, you are not all that worried about conversion therapy. okay? what you are worried about is getting a good education. >> that is a nonsensical question to be asking about education secretary. when the department of education at the federal level provides 8% of the money for k-12 education, it is rather relevant that the incoming secretary of education understand that higher education is a far greater part of the job. the secretary of education does not get to dictate k-12 education. that's not how it works in the country. >> martha: you can't get to higher education if you can't get through grade school, so, you have to deal with things first. austin, thank you very much. we will have to leave it there. marc, good to see you both. thank you very much for coming in tonight. tonight, there are new reports that in nearly one-third of

house democrats will now boycott president-elect trump's inauguration. we will have a lot of empty seats. donald trump says he is glad about that because he has a lot of people that want to come or go to get a seat. former house speaker newt gingrich has a powerful message for those naysayers. plus, steve harvey on the receiving end of some inflammatory criticism after he had the gall to meet with donald trump. we'll talk about that, discuss what was said, and the reaction when we come back. >> it was a bunch of mediocre bring dragged in front of tv against black

♪ >> martha: we are now less than 72 hours from the inauguration and the start of the first hundred days for the trump administration. tonight we are sailing ugly new reactions from a number of medir of democrats saying they are now, 60, you can fit them all on one page these days, they will skip the whole inauguration, while the headline writers find new things not to like about the incoming president. in moments, will have reactions from trump supporter and former house speaker newt gingrich. but first, let's go to trace gallagher tracking breaking news and thereby cut tonight. hi, trace. >> as the boy cat among house

democrats grows, the headlines tend to indicate that it is bad news for donald trump. in context, should be noted of the 60 house democrats who are choosing not to attend the inauguration, most are in safe districts, and otherwise, districts that hillary clinton easily won, including 15 has members from california. so far, not a single senate democrat is escaping the ceremony. in fact, this marks the second time in a month that senate democrats ignored calls for members of the house to gin up resistance to the president-elect. wisconsin republican congressman sean duffy, who was on the trump transition team, says that the media has got it wrong. the boycott isn't bad for trump, it is bad for america. watch. >> i'm disappointed that all of these democrats are saying they will stay home. it's like, i was a little could come i'm used to getting a juice box and a trophy no matter when i went or lose. that is bad for the country. to show up, be a part of it. put your big boy pants on and

let's start working together. >> by the way, the trump campaign is promising to give away inauguration tickets to those who choose to partake. in the meantime, a series of new polls shows that donald trump will take office as the least popular incoming president in 40 years. both the "abc news," "washington post" poll, , and te cnn orc poll show that it doherty of americans view trump on favorably. in response to him of the president-elect tweeted, the same people who do the phony election polls and were so wronl rating polls. they are rigged, just like before." the trump campaign also blamed the negative tone on the media, trying to stir up conflict. for example, four years ago, "the associated press" tweeted this about the inauguration, "a day pulsing with history draws the masses to president barack obama's second inauguration." yesterday, ap tweeted "hundreds of thousands are expected to clog the nation's capital for donald trump's inauguration."

several outlets have also highlighted a list of inauguration protests and potential unrest. martha. >> martha: trace, thank you. joining me now with more and his reaction is trump supporter and former house speaker newt gingrich. all dolma also the author of the new thriller, "treason. good to see you. those numbers are so high. donald trump is not claiming that they are for real, these aren't either. you believe that? >> look, i think that he is the most controversy old person to become president in modern times. i think, five oh h points better than they are saying it is. the underlying reality is that on friday donald jay chung becomes president of united states. mike pence becomes vice president of united states, and a system of moves onward. now, i think he is going to be much more like prime minister

thatcher done like most american presidents. she was such a controversial figure, she was so determined to defeat socialism, and to change great britain to a more productive society, that the left just hated her. and that is what part of trumpets up against. this is not a standard election. this is not a normal period. he represents real change. and real change scares the left. >> martha: let's take a look at what he said to ainsley earhardt a little bit earlier today about twitter, because there has essentially been a lot of chaos going back and forth between him and the intel agencies and a lot of it comes through that venue. here is that. >> what about twitter? are you going to continue to treat? >> yes. look, i don't like tweeting. there are other things i could be doing. but i get. just honest media, very dishonest press. it is my only way that i can counteract. >> martha: why the decision on

his part? >> look, i hope he continues to tweet. i am very much in the group who believes that donald trump has to be donald trump. he got here despite everything. he beat 16 other republicans. he beat secretary of state with a billion dollars of media on her side. he has done it his way. his way is to be transparent. yes, he makes mistakes, they are out in the open. >> martha: here is what i see. go back to the campaign period. you look at what he would do when things look like they were kind of sliding off the rails. it feels a little bit like that now, with all of this back and forth and twitter and the focus on all of the petty stuff, some very real, sort of acerbic back and forth with the intel community. but he would do then is get out on the road and give substantive speeches that were based on issues, that people cared about. wouldn't it behoove him at this

point to sit back, to let people sort of take it all and over the next 72 hours, without the fog of all of this nasty back and forth, and then, the next thing they see as a presidential donald trump standing on that podium and delivering a speech that makes them stand up and go "wow," this is quite interesting. this is a person of substance. >> look, that is certainly an alternative reality. what people got to understand, this is president donald trump. he is not going to turn around suddenly, show up, and look like he is a harvard law graduate, doing things with the elegance of a yale member. he is going to be rough and tumble. he is a guy who built buildings. he is a guy who appeals to blue-collar workers. he is blunt, he is direct, he counter punches always. you hit him, he is going to hit back. that is who he is. that is who got elected president. and i think that's fine. >> martha: dr. vicky cares about these numbers, newt? he cared about them over the

course of the campaign. he would get a little back on his evils, and be concerned about the numbers. then, he changed tactics. it doesn't feel like that is what he is doing at this moment. speak of no come at this, he is charging forward. i have to say again, and a lot of ways, i am on his side. i think the performance of the senior intelligence leadership has been beyond disgraceful. i don't see any reason why trump should feel bad about saying that it was disgraceful. i can't imagine them being as incompetent as they had been in recent days. >> martha: the truth of the matter, he doesn't need to get into the mod on some of these issues. he doesn't need to attack john lewis. he can let all that stuff lie and sort of give himself a moment because it is a big day on friday. i realize that he is going to give a speech, i hope you will give a speech that is true to who he is. i think that is what everyone expects. it is a big moment. you can just write it off like it's not a big deal and he is not going to go up there as a sort of presidential figure on

friday. >> well, i think on friday he will be a presidential figure. again, i just want to emphasize, he will be a unique -- i have no idea what his speech will be light, that is not the key point. donald j. trump is going to be donald j. trump, just as, frankly, andrew jackson was always andrew jackson, theodore roosevelt was always theodore roosevelt. you get these very strong, powerful personalities, you know, they are who they are. it is how they got to where they were. he is not going to turn around tomorrow or the next day and become somebody else's milquetoast idea of a controlled, orderly, structured president. that is not who he is. >> martha: i mean, i think everyone agrees with you there. we will see what happens. newt, thank you very much. great talking to you tonight. >> great to be with you. >> martha: count on fox news for complete coverage of the inauguration of donald trump. bret baier and i will cover it live on friday from 11:00 to 5:00.

then, stay tuned for "the first 100 days." we are looking forward to that. a lot of excitement to come in the coming days. coming up right here, steve harvey facing very harsh criticism because he want to trump tower to talk to the president-elect. we will show you how he was attacked. plus, president-elect donald trump didn't shy away from hitting china on the campaign trail and china is now firing back. governor mike huckabee and obama economic advisor robert wolf next on that. >> we can't continue to allow china -- our country.

>> we will stand up to china and stop the job killing trans-pacific partnership. america has lost, listen to this, 70,000 factories since china joined the w po.

by the way, try doing business over and china. my energy proposals will unlock the $50 trillion in energy reserves right here in america. this means new jobs in florida, not new jobs in china. >> martha: that was then candidate donald trump and a collection of campaign trail attacks on one of his favorite targets, the country of china. but china is doing us wrong message became a rallying cry for many of his supporters. china stayed mostly quiet on this until now. until today. the chinese president is now fighting back. he is blasting trump's message at the world egg economic forearm, which the they are now invited to. joining me now, former presidential candidate, mike huckabee, along with robert wealth, he is an economic advisor to president obama and founder of the group 32 advisors. great to have both of you with us. i found this fascinating this morning. because we have heard very little from the chinese

government about the new administration. but now, you have got the chinese president, xi jinping, speaking out about the wonderful aspects of globalization and open trade, and being fair in the world. he says, we should say no to protectionism, saying yes to protectionism is like locking oneself in a dark room, no one will emerge as a winner in a trade war. robert wolf, let me start with you. what you make of that? >> as someone who worked for ubs, switzerland and somewhere i went fairly often, including dallas. it was the first time that president xi jinping was there. we have a platform, he never had before. it is not surprising, after president-elect trump mentioned things like the one china situation and the different accord that he would use this bully pulpit to may be attacked president-elect trump in a different way. he went after him on the paris accords, climate change, he went after him on protectionism and nationalistic approach on trade barriers.

he went after him on the currency stuff. and i think that it is two of the most powerful leaders in the world playing a little game of public poker here. but i think that knowing our president-elect trump, i have a feeling he'll jab back pretty hard. >> martha: he didn't do it today. he was pretty busy. but i expect he will come a governor. how do you expect he'll respond? >> well, i think he's going to be donald trump. he will come back and hit hard. i thought it was just short of being a comedy skit on "saturday night live" that had the chinese president lecturing us about climate and lecturing us about the environment. i mean, have you been to china lately? you have to wear a mask. half the people over there are covering their faces to keep from choking on the pollution. so, it is an interesting tug-of-war that we are going to see. i think robert is red. you have two world leaders or they are both stepping into the ring for the first time against each other. but i think the president of china is going to find out that when donald trump gets punched,

he punches back, usually ten times harder than he got hit. >> martha: what form is not going to take? is the question. you see this movement to sort of open relationships with russia, or at least sit down with vladimir putin early on for the president-elect has said that he will do that. so, china looks at that and sees the shifting of the geopolitical landscape and says, so, i am out here on my own and i have an economy that has, is in pretty rough shape in china right now. and he is talking about cutting off trade deals, so, i will open my arms to all of their friends and make some good deals, wright, robert? >> there is no question, with the u.s. being the largest consumer in the world of goods and services, it is clear that when he talks about currency manipulation and trade and tariff come out that that is, you know, definitely a tough stance to against china. if president-elect trump actually builds a relationship with russia, that will definitely wake up china and different ways. certainly, it is very different than what president obama did

the last eight years. i should say, which i am sure governor huckabee and president-elect trump and secretary clinton were all against, i actually think, if we would have proceeded with tpp, that would have been the best way to shut out china because you were actually working with 11 asia-pacific countries, ask china, it would have been the best way to really box them out. that is for another dialog. >> martha: they want to be boxed back in and they said it is an opening. robert wolf, thank you very much. governor huckabee, thanks to you, too. hope to see you both soon. so, coming up, while donald trump faced his first pro-life, pro-choice dust up? just hours after taking the oath? and steve harvey, coming under attack for the crime of meeting with the president-elect. michael eric dyson and ben schapiro coming up next on that. ♪ we approach life... by simply enjoying it. boost® simply complete. it's intelligent nutrition made with only 9 ingredients,

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>> martha: developing tonight, a new backlash of our suitor and visitor to trump tower. comedian steve harvey drop by on friday to meet with the president-elect. then, he found himself in the receiving end of some serious heat for doing so. watch this. >> i love steve how are harvey and i have respect for steve harvey. i think his intentions were

appropriate. my disagreement is the way in which he is being used by folks like donald trump. >> you keep bringing up comedians and actors and athletes to represent black interests, the meaning is disrespectful, it is condescending. mediocre people being dragged in front of tv as a photo up for donald trump's exploitative campaign against black people. >> martha: wow. joining me now, michael eric dyson is a georgetown university professor of sociology and he is the author of the new book, "tears we cannot stop: a sermon to white america." we welcome here and here tonight. great to have you here tonight. you see what is going on there. and you have written a book. talk to me a little bit about that and context with what you see going on around you. >> well, and my book, i talk about the way in which white america has viewed rays, has been taught to think about race, and has not been self-conscious about the racial formation. they don't think about their weight and having a race as at the same way of men hearing

gender, they think about women. many americans are not taught to think about race in a self-conscious way. i wanted to invite white americans into a conversation about race, to think about how it is constructed, about how white innocence, white fragility, wide vulnerability are all thrown in there together, and how sometimes, why people get resentful, understandably, of being asked to talk about a subject that they have no skills to talk about because they have not been practiced in it. what i wanted to do is to talk about those in a serious way. police brutality, talk about the kind of resurgence of racism, especially in regards to president obama. then, talk about the broader culture in which people live, and which racial animus, antiblack sentiments have been released, and how we negotiate that. i wanted to come as a minister, preached white america. >> martha: i think we hear so much more about racism than we did when i was growing up. i feel like relationships were better then. i wonder why, after eight years of having our first african-american president, we find ourselves in such a divisive period?

how do you think that reflects on him, perhaps, do you believe it does? >> it does in this sense. i think barack obama's presence provoked a kind of nastiness and viciousness. for instance, you can have legitimate disagreements with barack obama and not to be accused of being a racist. but there is no denying that a lot of the sentiment against obama was racially driven. for instance, if if you are debating him about health care, why put a voodoo doctor up? when police department's are caught on tape, speaking about barack obama and disparaging terms, why he tell mike as he referred to as a white simian? in other words, the racial stereotypes that were so deeply profound, have gutted any sense of having honest differences of opinion, politically or ideologically. as a result of that, barack obama became a lightning rod for that. >> martha: respond, if you would come in to the argument that we just saw on that tape. the use of the phrase, "mediocre negroes." what is wrong with that? >> steve harvey, as was said, he

has a remarkable man, a successful man. there is no problem with that. the problem is donald trump, not steve harvey. look, if you want to have a conversation dumped on that conversation, do go to miley cyrus? speak to, say, i don't know, george clooney. the problem is, there are political representatives of african-american -- >> martha: you are saying steve harvey is not the person for the conversation? >> i am talking about if you are talking about the gravitas of black america, no, i don't think that -- >> martha: but leonardo dicaprio can go talk about climate change with president obama and angelina jolie and brad pitt -- >> look, steve harvey -- >> martha: they did that all the time. >> i love steve harvey but i don't think steve harvey -- >> martha: who are you to say that steve harvey can't have a conversation with donald trump? >> i am saying steve harvey is a friend of mine and i love him. i am saying steve harvey is not the person who is on the point

man for discussing policy and black america. i am saying there are many people who are practiced in that, who deal with that every day, who have strategic advantages because they have been thinking about this. steve harvey is no mike has been picked by it donald trump to avoid dealing with some serious weight and theological and theoretical and sociological analysis about what is going on in the community. have a conversation with steve harvey. that's beautiful. but also have a conversation with people who have been thinking about this. we come a sociologist come over thinking about is it harder to do my carpet, turn to people who have been thinking about this politically, then, when you do that, you have both steve harvey, who has a right to go to the white house, and those who have expertise and gravitas. >> martha: all right. thank you very much for sharing that with us today. we hope to see you again soon. >> i look forward to it. >> martha: here with mark, ben schapiro, editor-in-chief of "daily wired.com," with his thoughts on the controversy. you heard our conversation, you

heard the piece of sound from marc lamont hill, talking about "mediocre negroes" that said were prorated to checkboxes for donald trump. what do you think? >> i think first of all, anyone who says that someone is a negro mediocre because they disagree,e person. i don't think it is intellectually honest to talk about someone with more expertise. i really doubt that if donald trump had invited thomas hill over, or jason riley of "the wall street journal" to talk about housing policy, they would have been supremely happy either. what this is about, there's a cadre of people on the left, who get very -- who doesn't immediately slap that hand away and say, you guys of the bad guys. too many folks on the left likes to racially polarized in order to make a politically. that is quite terrible. the fact is that, if you are going to build a better country, we need to reach across the aisle, not just on racial lines but political lines. labeling everybody one way politically, based on the color

of their skin, is the essence of racism. the idea that your race is inherently connected with your political thought is inherently racist. the left refuses to a acknowledge that, unfortunately. >> martha: what can donald trump do to bridge that divide? do you have any hope that he can? >> listen, i think trump is doing the right thing on a lot of these things. i think when trump invites people like steve harvey or when he invites any of the other people he has been inviting to talk, martin luther king the third, is that someone who lacks gravitas? when he invites these people to trump tower, i think he is attempting to reach out. whether you think that is p.r. or not doesn't really matter. the bottom line is, what would trump do differently if he were actually reaching out? i'm not sure he would be doing anything differently. again, the idea that the left can object to the celebrity involvements in politics, i didn't see them whining when meryl streep was ripping up trump at the golden globes. >> martha: ben shapiro, thank you very much. good to see you, ben.

>> you come i too. >> martha: coming up, a woman's march on washington, with the intended message of inclusion, now expelling one group they say, not to those women. they can't take part in this march because of their pro-life stance. we discussed that next with the federalists mollie hemingway. coming up

♪ >> martha: inauguration festivities will barely have wrapped when a reported quarter of a million people will flock to the capital for the so-called women's march on washington. the event organizers the stated goal of bringing everyone together, has instead commended on the opposite. after organizers announced yesterday that a pro-life group called the new wave feminists was not allowed to show up. they are no longer on the list. here now, mollie hemingway, sr., i note her at speethirty. mollie, good evening to you. nice to have you with us today.

your thoughts on this? >> tens of millions of american women are pro-life, and many of these women have problems with donald trump. and now, they are being told that they are not welcomed at this march that is going to protest him. feminists say that they speak for all women and that they are for all women, when in fact, they require you to sign onto a very narrow progressive political agenda. conservative women are used to this. we are used to being locked mod denigrated, simply because we have different ideas about what government policies are best for women and their families. in this case, there is new wave feminists of authentic feminist and pro-life group that is supposed report of the leadership of this, or sponsoring part of this march, they have been banned simply because they don't believe in violence in the womb and they don't think that helps women or their children. it really speaks to the totalitarian mindset of this march, sadly. >> martha: it raises the question why it would be called the woman's march and not called the poi pro-choice march, for

example. >> the country is evenly divided on whether they identify as pro-life or pro-choice. there is actually a lot of consensus on abortion policy. it is not in the direction of this march and it's organizers, like planned parenthood, what have you believe. there was a poll in july that shows that nearly eight in ten americans support some restriction on abortion, including no abortions after three months of pregnancy and nearly two-thirds of americans oppose using taxpayer funds to pay for abortions. there is consensus on a lot of abortion policy, but this march seems to be adopting a very extreme idea of what it means to be female and what it even means to have a view on abortion. >> martha: kind of remind me of the conversation that we were just having about black leaderships and the notion that you can only have sort of one line of thinking. the real repression, and many ways, of freedom of speech and freedom of thought, we respect to different people's opinion

and this country, and as you point out, you have a large number of people in this country who agree with you on this issue. and yet, this march is going to represent purported self to represent women, yet, it won't be reflected of the majority of the women of the country at all. speak of "the new york times" previously reported on other problems that the marchers have been, where they are ostracizing different people for not being diverse enough or not being intersectional enough. another idea. these women can march all they want but they are out of step with a large portion of the american public. >> martha: mollie hemingway, thank you very much. good heavy with us tonight. so, amidst the gnashing of teeth over the paucity of celebs arriving in d.c. for the inaugural, sage words in a quote of the night, from none other than dr. phil tonight. he says this. "i worry that high-profile celebrities run a risk of having an unwarranted impact on public opinion. being talented in one area does

not translate into a special insight or wisdom and another, such as politics. maybe we should think about staying in our own lane. hopefully, most of the fans think for themselves. i am betting they do." i am ♪ >> tom: welcome to "red eye," hello everyone, i am tom shillue. let's check in with tvs andy levy at the "red eye" deck. >> andy: vladimir putin claims that russia's prostitutes are the best in the world. nasa plans to explore an asteroid so rich in metal that it's worth tens of thousands of quadrillions of dollars