exclusive interview with the president of the united states, donald trump. thursday, 10:00 p.m. thanks for being with us, have a great -- >> he was practicing that all morning in the mirror. >> bret: he was hoping for better things. [laughter] thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that is it for tonight's "special report." fair, balanced, and unafraid. "the first 100 days" hosted by my friend, martha maccallum, starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> martha: president donald trump barreled through the work day at a breakneck pace, pushing forward th delayed to keystone and dakota pipeline and working deals with the car folks. i'm martha maccallum and that is day five of the first 100. so, while all that was happening at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, democrats dug in their heels and grilled his nominees. here is day five. >> this is with regard to the construction of the keystone pipeline. we will see if we can get that pipeline belt.

28,000 jobs. ♪ >> from now on, we will start making pipelines in the united states. we have a very big push to have oil plants and other plants built in the united states. we are bringing manufacturing back to the united states. >> i have behind me two pictures that were taken at about the same time of day in 2009 and 2017, which crowd is larger? the 2009 crowd of 2017 crowd? >> i'm not sure how the size, i'm not sure how to answer the question. >> just to give you the contact for the obstruction, the foot dragging that democrats are imposing upon this new president, at this point, and president obama's administration, there were 14 cabinet members confirmed. i am serious when i say that i'm worried about what my colleagues in a minority site or to bring to the senate as an institution. >> martha: late this evening, the senate, after early

consternation, voted overwhelmingly to convert nikki haley to be the next u.s. ambassador to the united nations. 96-4. she makes number four. president obama was way ahead of that, with his cabinet at this point. powerful and up for you tonight. in moments, we will be joined by its all more of, who is in her new office now at the white house. then, mark deason, austin goolsby, and charlie hart. first, trace gallagher on the president's push to build some long-delayed oil pipelines. >> this is all part of president trump's end run around what he called the u.s. government's quote incredibly cumbersome long, horrible permitting process. not only will these executive orders revive the controversial pipeline projects, they are also meant to fast-track construction by streamlining the environmental review and permitting process. the keystone pipeline would run from canada to nebraska and then, connect to existing lines that lead to u.s. refineries on

the gulf coast. the canadian-based company building keystone is already on board, saying, "we appreciate the president of the united states inviting us to reapply for kxl. we are currently preparing the application and intend to do so." for the president's executive orders will not stop the environmentalists from protesting our filing lawsuits to stop the projects, which they have vowed to do. today, the sierra club blasted what they call the trumps dangerous decision. in north dakota, the standing rock sioux tribe say they will also continue their fight against a dakota access line because they say it threatens drinking water and runs under sacred lands. dakota access will carry oil to a shipping point in illinois. remember, the reason president obama next to the pipelines in 202016 is because he wanted america to lead the fight against climate change and felt building pipelines would not have been putting our money where our mouth is.

the new administration clearly has a different take. watch. speak of the president's actions today will create tens of thousands of new jobs for the american workers and move us greater towards energy independence. at the same time, ensuring that we keep the environment as a top priority. >> president trump also signed an executive order compelling the pipeline companies to use a u.s. steel to build the lines. the canadian builder how to said it would use about 65% of its steel from the u.s., the rest from canada. unclear if that will be renegotiated. martha. it is to here with mark, mark deason, austin goolsby and the professor of the university of chicago and a former advisor to president obama. charles heard his opinion editor for "the washington times." great to have you with us. >> great to be with you. >> martha: let me start with you. we heard of sean spicer, he said, we will do it environmentally responsibly.

then, you heard the other news that we are going to try to push for more u.s. steel to be part of this negotiation of that is going to create jobs. i guess, the question is, what took so long and why didn't your administration do this much sooner? >> well, first, i don't take a numerical estimate from sean spicer very seriously. >> martha: we will get that into that a moment. >> he quoted tens of thousands of jobs. i am simply not going to comment on any number that he gives us. i think that donald trump is going to overturn this. was it expected? i'm not surprised. i think the fact that donald trump is doing this one day after announcing that he wants to renegotiate nafta, not apparently being clear on the point that nafta is what gives the united states the privileged, the access to the canadian oil to begin with. they are definitely not going to start building a pipeline. >> martha: you don't think canada will turn around and say,

forget it, canada wants to do this. this is in canada's best interest. marc, do you want to weigh in? >> absolutely. i know that austan doesn't want -- i know austan doesn't want to take sean spicer's numbers. but maybe he will take the obama state department's numbers. the obama state department did a massive study of the keystone xl pipeline. they concluded it would add 42,000 jobs and add $3.6 billion to the economy and blocking the keystone xl pipeline would have have almost no impact on climate change because the oil is going to get to market anyway. if you don't build the keystone xl pipeline, they will do it by rail and by truck, which will actually increase emissions. again, this the obama state department, would increase emissions by 42% because all of those diesel spewing trucks and railcars will deliver the oil anyway. the keystone xl pipeline actually reduces emissions, creates jobs, and adds billions of dollars to the economy. this is a two minute decision, and enforcement of our coffee. it took obama 80 years to say

no. donald trump did it in his first couple days. >> martha: it was a very busy day. let me put you forward to the infrastructure question. here is a back and forth with senator charles schumer. let's watch. >> we have heard president trump's talk of disaster. and third world infrastructure. and recall on the president to persuade his republican colleagues in the house and senate to invest in infrastructure and get on board with this plan. >> i don't think we ought to borrow almost a trillion dollars and fluff up a bunch of federal accounts, incur a lot of additional debt, and don't build any projects to speak of. so, i can tell you, this is a replication of the obama stimulus package in 2009. >> martha: so, tonight, the kansas' d's star, charlie, is reporting that there is, the trump team has are compiled a

list of 50 infrastructure projects totaling about $137.5 billion, as they tried to push this through. a 50/50 public, private partnership on these projects. to mr. mcconnell's plan, we have heard about a shovel-ready jobs before. what we were different this time? >> this is where it will be very difficult for republicans on capitol hill. they are not going to want to go along with something that has a big price tag on it. it is also where donald trump sees an opportunity to work with democrats, equally, as he will with republicans. the thing about that, martha, that, not only in his mind can he get a lot of things done that he wants to get done, by doing it, but it's incredibly increases his power. if he establishes those relationships with democrats on the hill, without the help from republicans, then, all that means as he has got all that much more support on certain things. gives him a lot of chip and an

ability to negotiate and other things. while democrats may be sort of gleeful add to this split between republicans, at the end of the day, this is going to strengthen donald trump's hand. one other thing that i think it's important to keep in mind, though, this is a guy who is used to building. he builds buildings. he has his entire life. he loves real estate. he loves big projects. i think he views this as the biggest trump tower ever built. he doesn't waste money. he doesn't -- he likes to do these things. he likes to do them efficiently. he likes to get a lot of pop-up for his money. i don't think it is going to be, even if i don't like the idea of spending myself, i don't think it is going to be flushing money down the toilet on things like solyndra and big waste of money. >> martha: i will get you one more. we have about a minute and a half left. sean spicer. we will him time and on the numbers. >> does the president believe

that millions voted illegally in this election? >> the president does believe that. he stated that before. i think he stated his concerns of voter fraud and people voting illegally during the campaign. he continues to maintain that belief. >> has the white house formaly ask for a probe into this election? >> he won very handily with 306 electoral votes, 33 states. he's very comfortable his win. >> martha: i want you all to weigh in on this. he believes it because he believes that for you to austan. >> look, nobody is can see it better than that. there is evidence, i believe, that two people voted illegally and they were both voting for donald trump. there is no evidence that a 3-5 million people voted illegally. it is really conspiratorial and insane. >> martha: marc. >> i think the trump administration is getting its sea legs. they are stepping on their own story. why are we wasting time talking about phantom voters who voted

illegally when we should be talking about the fact that the keystone xl pipeline? the dakota pipeline? the other day, he went to the cia, trying to build a relationship. they were talking by the crowd size. this administration has to get the message discipline going because they are doing good things but they are stepping ont their own stories. >> martha: we will talk about this more with someone from the white house coming up. thank you, guys. good to see you. coming up, some media outlets claimed that the mood inside president trump's white house is turbulent and rife with internal power struggles. ed henry separates fact from fiction on that one. then, omer barroso manacles, an assistant to the president, joins us to react. plus, growing outrage over the story of a gold star family member who was attacked by protesters when she tried to attend the ball in honor of veterans. we got to hear that story, whose brother was a hero for the country, joins us later tonight. ♪

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♪ >> martha: less than a week and committee reports are painting a picture of a white house full of tension and internal power struggles like a drama. we will get a first-hand reaction from omarosa manigault, an assistant or president trump.

first, we go to ed henry joining us from washington. >> martha, good to see you. a senior trump advisor is telling me everyone should calm down. a lot of this is being cooked up by the media that is so disenchanted. this advisor want to focus on the executive actions that president trump has taken in recent days. the problem is, some with the president's other advisors seem to be more than happy to spend negative details about what other two media outlets like "the washington post," which they publish a front-page story with juicy nuggets alleging the president's son-in-law, jared kushner, so ego, eager to solidify his role as top dog, hd trying unsuccessfully to block kellyanne conway from getting a top job in the white house. other whispering that sean spicer has been on thin ice with the president in part because mr. trump doesn't like the ill fitting suit that spicer four on saturday. he was using a confidant that he should put in a darker suit. the last two days, the press secretary has been donning darker suits and doing better at the podium. the post also threw in

speculation that conway, who is the president's first transfer of press secretary, but turned it down, is now trying t. insights say that it's not true. today come on "fox & friends," conway actually praised spicer repeatedly. meanwhile, politico is reporting that the president has a shadow cabinet of top aides who are camping out at federal agencies. critics say this is where the white house loyalists were were reporting back to jared kushner and could undermine the authority of the cabinet secretaries. white house insiders tell me that these aids are meant to bring some discipline over these cabinet departments and they there fast budgets which fits into the president's message of bringing accountability to these message a federal agency and how they spend the tax money. martha prayed to >> martha: thank you, ed. he and i with some inside perspective is omarosa manigault. she is an assistant and director communications. good to see you tonight. thank you for being with us.

to her that report. her part. you saw the stories this morning, i'm sure. some of those stories say that they are based on dozens of sources within the white house, who are saying that there is quite a bit of tension between the kushner camp and the spicer camp and kellyanne conway. what do you think? >> i think the stories are very ridiculous. i have to tell you, the people who are close to this president have no problem going on record and talking about how efficient, how clear and concise this operation is. i find it very interesting of these stories quote these stories who will not speak up because they are not in the room. it is fabricated, it is drama, and it is not happening in this white house. >> martha: is there a shadow cabinet that exists, where there are people who are placed at agencies to report back tored kd in that story? >> that is absolutely not true. i will tell you that this president has run very large, successful organizations. one thing that establishes him as a leader is that he knows how to get the best out of organizations and out of

individuals. he connects with people. that is exactly what the president is going to do. on a different level than other presidents have never done. he is someone who knows that in order to make sure that her operation is going smoothly, you have to know what is happening at all levels. but to call it a shadow cabinet is ridiculous. >> martha: when we look at the news conferences and we see sean spicer at the podium, we also see a whole bunch of other people in the room. you were in the room, huckabee, sanders, kellyanne conway, i'll end up in the side of the room. when josh earnest was doing the job, we didn't see that level, senior advisor to the president, sitting there. why is that? why are you guys all in there? >> let it must be very clear. this white house is operating in a way that any other white house ever has. civil rights as a priority for this president. what is happening in the inner cities as a priority for this president. the coalitions that i work with, they are priorities for the

president. yes, i'm going to be in the room. i want to hear the questions of the press has. i want to make sure the message messaging that we are developing collectively as a team, we are there in the room to support. we are not there to -- we are watch --dash let this president know --dash. >> martha: you all witnessed and that news conference the question about the three to 5 million undocumented voters in this country, who donald trump believes through this popular vote for him. you have known him for a long time. i was listening to charles krauthammer a moment ago, saying he sees it as a character flaw. he feels that donald trump, the president cannot sit on it when he has the impulse to speak out about something like that. it dominates the news cycle and gets everyone talking about as we are now. >> i think that charles calling it a character flaw it means that he knows nothing about the president. this president has very strong views about what has happened and what he has observed.

he's getting information that makes him believe that. i have to tell you that this president won 306 electoral votes. be what there is no documentation to back of the contention about three to 5 million voters who voted illegally. everybody would be happy to dig into that. obviously, it's a serious charge. >> i heard questioning after questioning about this. i think sean addressed this best. it is best that we recognize that he is the president, he won handily. we will move on and focus on what americans care about. that is jobs. filling up their gas tanks and prescriptions. they are not focused on what the media is -- >> martha: he is focused on it in the meeting, and the bipartisan meeting. that is why we are talking about it. he brought it up. i'm asking, do you think there will be more disciplined going forward on that front because it does throw off and to step on the message that you all are trying to put out there? >> with all due respect, this is our second day here. i think of this president has accomplished more in two days that most presidents have been a very long time. so, i'm very proud of the

administration, where americans are first. what is happening at their homes and communities are first. we have seen that. what he is accomplished in just two days. thus celebrate that and focus on that. and not try to look at what is happening. >> martha: omarosa, thank you very much. you are right. we have detailed all of the action that has been going on over the course of these first few days and it has been as a breakneck pace. >> there is more to come. >> martha: we look forward to reporting on it. thank you very much. good to have you here tonight. coming up, palestinian claims that one of president trump's campaign promises code to start a war in the middle east. we will explain that ahead. plus, a new media conflict to investigate. as president trump's inaugural phrase "american carnage" deserve the ridicule that it has received from some of the media so far? 's or does it deserve praise for pointing out some of the issues of the country? dana rauch and richard fowler with that next..... are you getting this?

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>> martha: breaking tonight, the debate over one of president trump's most potent inaugural speech moments. when he spoke about the "american carnage" that he plans to stop. watch. >> mothers and children trapped

in poverty in our inner cities. rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of hibernation. an education system flush with cash but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge. and the crime and played games and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. [applauding] >> martha: it was a much talked about moment and of the larger media pounced at what they called the "darkness" of that phrase. what did president trump have a point? trace gallagher five in los angeles. hi, trace. >> martha, "the new york times"

began its article on trump's inaugural speech by comparing it to other presidents, saying, quoting quoting abraham lincoln uploaded nomadic -- john kennedy inspired us to serve our nation. donald trump gave us american carnage. listen to two of msnbc's hosts. watch. >> now, as of today, american carnage will be forever known as the theme for the inaugural address of the 44th president of united states. >> the trump tv series has a title, "american carnage" ." >> then, there is an article from the online magazine "late" titled the meaning of american park bench, where the author writes "there is a small problem with this image. it is fantasy." but critics they drawing a fantasy conclusion fails to look at the numbers. we checked. it turns out there is no shortage of carnage, like murder rates, which the fbi says in the first half of last year was up more than 5% for the previous year.

it has risen significantly over the last two years. the overall u.s. murder rate isn't as high as it was a 1970s in '80s but instead big cities it is worse. chicago's 2016 homicide rate was up 59% from 2015. memphis saw a 56% increase. cities like san antonio, louisville, and phoenix, were also up dramatically. all told, the number of americans murdered last year could fill a sports arena. with a number of americans who died from drug overdose could fill a stadium. in fact, the u.s. drug overdose rate in 2015 was more than triple the murder rate. so, while many critics accuse the president of using his speech to generate fear, others say the numbers themselves are pretty scary. martha. >> martha: think thank you, tr. joining me now, dana loesch, host of "dana," and richard fowler. good to have both of you with us tonight. you look at those numbers and you think of with the people who

have been affected by them, and cities like san antonio and chicago and memphis, where they are in many neighborhoods, living in a perilous situation and are afraid to go out at night, richard. what is wrong with recognizing the pain that those people are feeling? >> i don't think there is anything wrong with recognizing the pain. i think the drop of inaugural dresses, which we have seen in the past, is to inspire americans to do more. george w. bush did in his speech, ronald reagan, the idea that we are aspiring to be this great nation. i think where donald trump missed the mark on his speech, that it was overall a good campaign speech, but it missed the mark when it comes to defining what makes america great again as. when you think about the word carnage, it means the killing of mass people, i don't really know if carnage is the right vocabulary word i would use if i were the donald. >> martha: if you were a family who had lost a child to heroin overdose or if you lived in a community where you can't go outside at night because of the violence that is happening in your streets, dana, i think there are plenty of people in

this country who might feel comforted, that instead of platitudes on that stage that day, they heard what they understood as they are reality and something that they want fixed. >> martha, what you just said they are, right in that sentence, is exactly why trump won on november 8th. people are tired of platitudes. they are tired of cutesy little speeches for everybody talks about hope and change and instead, after the confirmation, you get a nightmare, an eight year long nightmare where people are losing their jobs and the labor participation rate has slowed by 4%. millions have lost access, they have lost their health care completely or their premiums have increased to the point where they can't afford them because of the un-affordable care act, they have seen jobs be crushed, they have seen manufacturing declined. it has, by all accounts, by all of these americans have endured this, being a carnage for them. they have seen their dreams killed. they have lost their children to drugs. it has been incredibly awful. that is why there were so many

people and democrats, let us not forget that one of the huge voting block that turned out for donald trump on november 8th were blue-collar democrats who had long been counted as a base voter by the democratic party. >> martha: grade points. when you look at the snarkiness that we saw in the response to this, richard, this sort of megadeth and it represents this and that, i think a lot of people who listened to that or who see that the weight is presented, then, you don't get to me, either. you don't understand what is going on in my life, either. again, what is wrong with recognizing the reality that so many people who voted for donald trump are feeling out there and what intraparty would be better off if perhaps they didn't make fun of that? >> i don't think anybody -- i don't think any democratic elected official has made fun of that. the truth is that people want to aspire to something and beyond that, i think we democrats are looking for, trump voters and

people who didn't vote for trume problem. trump didn't have any of those solutions and his "make america great," he didn't tell us how he was going to put it. he talked and complete and total platitudes. "i'm going to build a wall." nobody knows how he is going to build it. >> martha: based on what we have seen the last couple of days, action after action after action -- >> we are still waiting for them to tell us what this "obamacare replacement" is going to be. they have talked on platitudes. >> i have an idea on that. >> it is going to be choice, this, that, vocabulary words don't mean anything. >> i've a great idea as to what the replacement would be. wanted to go back and read all of the republicans that have piled on a? >> that's not a bill. >> don't talk over me. republicans filed in and nancy pelosi and harry reid allowed them to die. >> here is the thing.

>> american carnage means american death, according to webster. >> pointing out the reality is that people do experience. >> an inconvenient truth. >> martha: still ahead, what is really behind president trump's america first promise? one writer wanted to get to the bottom of that question, a phrase that offended some people. he unravels it for us when he joins us ahead. plus, controversial campaign pledge from president trump about the location of the u.s. embassy in israel is causing quite a stir in the middle east. brooke goldstein and david could tori will be here to debate that coming up next. >> and we will send a clear signal that there is no daylight between america and our most reliable allies, the state of israel. ♪

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>> we will move the american embassy to the eternal capital of the jewish people, jerusalem. [cheering and applauding] >> martha: developing tonight, there is intense backlash to president trump's pledge to move the u.s. embassy for israel from tel aviv to jerusalem. with some palestinians living in jerusalem, claiming that it will "trevor.my trigger an explosion." here to debate, brooke brooke goldstein. david and brooke, glad to have both of you with us tonight. thank you for being here. brooke, let me start with you. what is your take on this? >> you know, my take is that there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the laws of cause and effect. moving an office to jerusalem is not is what is going to cost

islamist violence. it is even the mom's preachingh and violence as a legitimate response to hurt feelings, preaching reestablishment of the caliphate and throwing the jews into the sea is the direct cause of arms. you know what else? cartoons of mohammed. the failure to mutilate the genitals of young females. the education of women and the western world. it also angers islamists. just like we don't appease islamist in those categories, we certainly do not appease islamists when it comes to directing the foreign policy of the united states. i think it is a wonderful move. it is totally in compliance with not one, not two, but three acts of congress, including the jerusalem embassy act of 1995 that directs the state department to move its embassy to jerusalem, the eternal capital of the jewish state. >> martha: david, she lays out a good case. what is wrong with that?

>> i applaud president trump for saying today, through his spokesman, that he is not going to do this right away, and he will continue to look at the issues. the reality is, each of our last three presidents, obama, bush, and clinton, also set at some point during our campaign, they would move the embassy. when i got into office, they thought better of it. the reason is that moving the embassy has no practical benefit for the u.s. or for israel. we should be thinking about strategies that are going to help improve u.s. interests in the middle east right now. that means defeating isis. that means of solving the civil war in syria, stopping the creation of failed states like syria and getting the middle east peace process between israel and palestine back on track. this will not do any of those things. speed when i hear your argument but you could make an argument that the things that we have done to tiptoe around and hope we will get backing from all of these countries really has not yielded fruit. it does not moving in embassy

really make a difference when you look at all of the things that we have done to build a successful coalition against an islamic extremism? >> it has no benefit to the u.s. it doesn't help us at all. it doesn't help us do our job better and is real doesn't help us do our job better in israel, doesn't help is real, either. if we want to make a statement about israel, do something to support israel. provide more military support. invite netanyahu here. thus two things that have an impact. this will incite violence in the middle east. >> i am surprised, david, that he would take that position. you penned a brilliant op-ed and cnn saying that the last thing we want to do is give into the territorial aspirations of isis. by allowing isis to continue, it can create and an islamic state, that is the appeasement of terrorism. when you argue against moving the embassy, they are advocating to move it to west jerusalem, which no one disputes to be the capital of israel, what you are

doing is arguing for the islamist notion of from the river to the cecum of palestine will be free of jews. you are encouraging appeasing terrorism. there is a general -- i will stop it there. >> martha: brooke, you made a great point. david, you did too. many thanks. still ahead, her brother paid the ultimate sacrifice in defense of our country. but on friday night, her mere presence and trying to enter an inaugural ball lead to what she describes as an assault by presidents outside. we will speak with gold star family member ryan manion straight ahead. plus, president trump has taken heat for his "america first" message. but what will that policy really mean during his presidency? "wall street journal" columnist wrote about that and he will join us here in studio coming up next. ♪

♪ >> >> be assembled here today or issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, and every foreign capital, and in every hall of power. from this day forward, a new

vision will govern our land. from this day forward, it's going to be only america first. america first. [applauding] >> martha: another moment from president trump's speech on inauguration day, as he vowed to uphold a campaign promise of putting america first. some critics say that evokes a darker time in american history. here now, "wall street journal" communist who wrote a piece on this issue this morning in his always great column. great to see you. so, america first is, some people think, a dog whistle for white people first. it also has historic connotations that donald trump has tried to separate himself from. your take? >> first of all, congratulations. i'm a big fan. the whole family. the irony of this, i think donald trump means by america first, just america first.

we are going to have other countries assume their fair share of the burden. i am not sure i'm on board with all of the policy. but the idea that it is the 1941 america first, the arch enemy, next to fdr of the 1941 movement was winston churchill because the america first movement saw him as trying to get us into england's war. he just restored to the bust of winston churchill to the oval office. i think lead from behind, president obama's thing, was a lot closer to the original spirit of america first. plus, you have the president saying, he is going to destroy isis, he is not saying, that this is not our fight. he has appointed men like john mattis, rex tillerson, they are hardly plucked from the 1941 cloth. >> martha: would you look back at president obama's perspective, you see him more as fitting into the america first because he didn't really want to cross the red line. >> the world would be peaceful or the middle east would be

peaceful if only we pulled our troops out. the reigning demonstrators who called for our support, you know, we had nothing for them, nothing to help ukraine defend itself against russia. we don't know what donald trump is going to do on all of these issues. but the idea that donald trump is america first in the $0.1941, would we just had eight years of a term president obama. >> martha: what do you see in terms of the pipeline decision, he says, we will look at the application again but we want a whole lot more u.s. steel involved. >> this is a lot of donald trump. i love that he is building a pipeline. i'm a little less pleased that he said we are going to put the things that you have to buy in american steel, which will make the cost go up. it is kind of a mixed message. i think trade is one of the areas where he is weak. >> martha: he is trying to put more people to work. he is really angry that the steel companies have lost. >> i am a free trader.

the idea -- this is what makes our public projects is of expensive. we put the wage requirements, we say, buy american, that is what sends the price. >> martha: william mcgurn, great to see you. it was an event that was meant to pay tribute to medal of honor recipients, there were 40 of them gathered, which is historic, last friday night in washington, d.c. i didn't stop protesters from attacking the people who wanted to make their way into that ball and one of them was ryan manion, whose brother, travis, was killed while he was on duty in iraq and 2007. he is an absolute hero who saved money. so, she is here to tell us her story, which is extraordinary. stick around for this, it is right after this break. ♪

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>> martha: growing outrage night after gold star family members reveal that they were verbally and even physically attacked during last week's inauguration celebrations. the two women, one who lost her brother, the other, her husband, both killed in service to our country, say that they first spotted the protesters on friday and took video of them in their car as they were arriving at this event. but the footage doesn't show what happened to them next when they got out of the car. they say they were pushed and spat on and called file names by these protesters. joining me now as ryan manion, whose brother, first lieutenant travis manion, was killed in iraq back in 2007. ryan has worked on his behalf with amy looney with the travis manion foundation ever since. good to have you here tonight, ryan. this is just an unbelievable story. welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> martha: explained to us, i wanted to talk about your

brother, too. he is the reason that you were there and he is the reason that you have honored him with the rest of your life. so, here you are, going to this event, to remember him. and what was said to you, what was done to you when you got out of the car and try to walk in? >> i can't repeat the things that were said to me. i don't think i can repeat them on cable television. we found ourselves in a situation where we had to walk into a group of about 75 protesters. i honestly was not originally uncomfortable doing that, thinking that they had no reason to have any ill feelings towards us. but we realized very quickly, as soon as we came upon them, that there was a lot of hatred in their eyes and they just started screaming a lot of vile obscenities at us, spitting towards us. for me, one of the most

interesting things, they were yelling, "get a job," and amy and i, while we were terrified of the whole situation, the next day, when we were digesting it all, we laugh because the idea of them telling us to get a job and our job every day is to instill character and our nation. >> martha: did they have an idea that you were a gold star family? >> no. i don't even think that they knew that we were going to find veterans gala. i don't think they knew -- i think they looked it up, dressed up, knew that we were attending an inaugural event and immediately thought we are going to take our anger out on them. >> martha: that meant that they were yelling at you about. talk to me about travis manion who was such a hero and saved so many lives on the day that he died. >> my brother was my best friend, the inspiration behind the travis manion foundation. travis and travis' good friend, brendan looney, they represent this generation of men and women who stand up and serve it for. for us, it is about getting up

there and making sure that we understand why they served and sacrificed. and that is for people to peacefully protest. but we need to come together, despite our differences, i think the one common thing we can all agree on is that we love this country. i think it is time to open up a dialogue about how we move forward in a respectful and civil manner. >> martha: you are so right. ryan, thank you very much. i'm sorry for what you went through. we thank you and your family for the service that you have all given to the country. thanks, ryan. see you soon. >> thanks so much. >> martha: ryan's noble behavior in the face of that anger brings us to our quote for tonight. a founding father with some advice for us in these rancorous times. thomas jefferson said this. "i never considered a difference of opinion and politics and religion, and philosophy, as a cause or withdrawing from a friend." that we can all take to heart during these 100 days and beyond. if you have a quote that you would like to see at the end of the show, send it to me at

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