that's his final destination. >> we will hear from him. >> thanks for joining us, america's news headquarters starts now. >> bye-bye. >> fox news alert, president trump signing the executive orders on immigration moments ago. as part of his first cap net level visit to the department of homeland security. i'm melissa francis. we are awaiting president trump to speak as he takes the first steps in building a wall on the border with mexico. boosting the number of border patrol as and more. mr. trump earlier addressing who will pay for the wall. >> president trump: we will be in a form reimbursed by mexico. >> they will pay us back. >> president trump: absolutely, 100%. >> the american taxpayer will pay for the wall at first. >> president trump: we will be reimbursed at whatever later date whatever transaction we make with mexico.

>> when does construction begin? >> president trump: ss we can do it. >> months? >> president trump: i would say in months. planning starting is immediately. >> let's go to chief white house correspondence john roberts live on the north lawn. busy day already. >> oh, yeah. unbelievably busy week as well. building the wall is just one thing that the two executive orders that the president will sign at the department of homeland security. the bullet points on the screen, building the wall, physical wall along the borders, number one priority of both of these executive orders. secondly, the president will announce it's his intention to hire additional border control agents and have more detention space along the border with mexico. we'll eliminate the obama era practice of catch and release, meaning peep whom come across the border will not be released to the custody of family members. all of those central american immigrants that did that two or three years ago. they will be detained during their adjudication process.

and prioritize the prosecution of criminal illegal aliens. there is a second executive order, withhold certain federal funding for sanctuaries city, enhance custom enforcement, to remove illegal aliens, give the state department more trools to repatriate criminal aliens, withholding visas for people who want to come legally until they retake back the executive aliens. another executive order deals with visas from countries with a history of terrorism, what to do about the refugees. we understand president plump is going to issue an executive order that will temporarily suspend visa issuances from countries like iraq, syria, libya, yemen, sudan, somalia. he will reduce the number of refugees that the u.s. takes. he may temporarily suspend all ref gentlemens from syria from

entering the united states until a procedure for extreme vetting can be put in place, refugees. address something else, that cropped up today, a story that the white house was considering reinstating the so-called cia black site and revisiting the idea of enhabsed interrogation by reviewing the army field manual. i'm told by senior sources that is not the case. that that idea was one of thousands of documents drafted during the transition, memoranda written as a wish list, kind of, everything that then-candidate donald trump said on the campaign trail was looked at and put into a potential executive order. i'm told the president is not looking at that document, that is something that is not under consideration. the chances of that happening are somewhere between slim and extremely slim. melissa? >> john roberts, thank you. you are looking live, waiting for donald trump to emerge. we understand he will be introduced by secretary john

kelley when he comes out. we will bring that to you live when it happens. in the meantime, we have pictures of president trump signing those executive orders. you can see that right there. let's bring in john torres, coo of guide post solutions, former assistant secretary of homeland secretary for u.s. immigration. he is a former deputy director of immigration and customs enforcement. you know what you are talking about here. showing a map right now, of what we have currently. 70. miles of fencing -- 702 miles of fencing, u.s.-mexico land border. we have a lot of space to fill. what's it going to take in your mind? >> it's going to take a lot of collaboration, with the corps of engineers, private sector, but really working to determine where are the best places to, a, build the wall or to build some sort of infrastructure in place that you can add on to the

existing terrain and infrastructure in place. >> so much of the conversation hinges on money, i've seen many different estimates. you know, some $18 billion, $s 5 billion, all numbers hard to imagine f you look at and i think we have a map, of where it is right now, and where it needs to go, what do you think the cost is like? >> it's definitely going to be in the billions. it is a huge undertaking with regards to having to take a look at what needs to be put in place beyond just the wall, but you need to have the sensors, you kneeled the cameras, you need to have the barriers and in some places double fencing. in conjunction with border patrol stations strategically located at regular entryways and pads ways that smugglers take across the border. >> obviously the president one of his main issues was immigration. we're talking about the wall right now. that's one piece of it.

and this is only the southern wall. there are a lot of other issues that go into immigration, specifically swaurpt cities. that has been a hot button issue all along. where do you think those battle lines are drawn as the federal government says they're going to hold back funds to cities that continue have these sanctuary policies. will that work, is that possible? your mind? >> with those jurisdictions really reliant upon that money that will certainly have influence. in reality, they're going to be some areas that say we don't need federal money and we still are going to remain a sanctuary city. what is most important, to sit down with those jurisdictions and talk about where do they have common interests. do they want to focus on gangs for example, foreign gangs, if that is a problem in that area or to take a look at is national security a problem in some of those areas. i think there is some common ground. it may not be all or nothing approach. >> john, you know, you look at

and you tackled this problem for so long, when you hear the conversation out there, what do you say to yourself about what we're all missing. what is important that is not being talked about. >> i think what's most important right now, is what is the incentive that brings people to the u.s. ultimately, most people want to come here because of jobs. they want to be able to make money, to be able to send money back to their families in their home countries. you can talk about a wall, sanctuary cities, talk about removing criminals from jail. those are all problems and sfoms of what is the original issue here, and the issue is, as long as people can come here and get a job they're going to continue to try and get to the u.s. >> that is a brilliant point and i've heard other people say that e-verify is the solution, we're spending so much time talking about walls and swaurpt cities, but if you -- swart cities. if you force players to verify they're hiring citizens, if you caught them hiring other people,

that you did something creative, you penalized them, you know, the profit that they made off that higher times ten or, you know, some sort of metric that would be meaningful to each business that, would solve the problems. do you free with ideas like that i think it's a good start. i think you need to solidify e-verify, if you make something like that mandatory you have to take a look at how can you build biometrics into that to avoid the impossibletor problem. -- imposter problem. you may not want to have huge law enforcement criminal raids, you may want to look at how can you ensure compliance? quite frankly, there are a ma jorpt of employers out there 70, 80, 90% want to be in compliance with the law, they just need the tools to do it. >> what is the economic incentive bringing people over the border, how do you address. that thanks for sharing that today, very important. >> my pleasure. >> the white house making another major move, president trump tweeting, quote, i will be

asking for a major investigation into voter fraud. including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and even those registered to vote who are dead, and many for a long time. depending on results we will strengthen up our voting procedures. trace gallagher is live with the story. he is doubling down on this one. there are folks out there making fun of him, adown. very interesting. >> yeah, melissa, we went through pulled dozens of studies on voter fraud and the common denominator it happens. there are numerous examples to back it up. 2013 when undercover agents in new york voted by assuming the names of people who died, were in jail, or had moved out of town. in 2015, washington election workers were charged with voter fraud after tampering with the voting machine. and last year, college student in virginia confessed to filling out 20 voter registration applications in the names of

dead people. in fact, dead people potentially voting appears to be one of the big ticket items when it comes to voter fraud. a 2012 study by the pugh research center showed 1.8 million dead people were registered to vote. now, there is no indication anyone actually voted on behalf of those dead people. but it certainly proves the system is vulnerable. the other big number, the trump administration will look into, the number of illegal immigrants who voted. a 2014 "washington post" article cited a study that showed noern 6% of noncitizens voted in 2008. when you consider there are between 15 and 22 million illegal immigrants in the u.s., 6% is a very large number. the problem is the peep whom actually supplied those numbers for the study dispute the results saying they believe the likely percent of noncitizens voting is zero. nothing.

liberal groups say there's no compelling evidence that millions voted illegally. so we ask the conservative heritage foundation. listen. >> the answer to that is we don't know. we can only try to guess at the numbers. but we don't know, because there's no -- never been any systematic effort to investigate and check this out. >> but it's coming and we may soon have more information. the trump administration is vowing to push forward, and conduct a full investigation. melissa? >> very interesting. trace gallagher, thank you. we are waiting for president trump who is visiting the department of homeland security and will give remarks, we will bring that to you. "when the ship comes in" by the hollies

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>> okay, we are awaiting president donald trump, he is visiting the department of homeland security, this is his first cabinet level visit since he has been in office. you can see the podium there. and we will take you there live, just as soon as he arrives. violence continues to plague chicago. now president trump is vowing to send in the feds. if the city can't stop the, quote, carnage he says. 762 people were murdered in chicago last year. that is a 58% jump from 2015. and murders are already up this year. this as protests in chicago against president trump continued this weekend. mike tobin is live in chicago with more. lots to report on there, mike. >> lots. the latest dustup was sparked by a late night tweet from the president saying he's ready to send the feds in to chicago.

mayor emmanuel smirked when reporters asked him but his answer was diplomatic, he said if the president wants to free up federal resources to battle the problems with violence in chicago he'll take it. >> i would welcome, always have, welcome federal participation in working with local law enforcement to dealing with guns and gangs. a lot of the guns come out of state, out of the city. a and lot come from indiana. the federal entities are set up to deal with that. >> now, white house spokesman sean spicer took a little softer approach than the president. and essentially seemed to sync up with mayor emmanuel, saying federal resources can be made available to chicago, they can all work together. here are the recent comments from the white house spokesman. >> i think what the president is upset about is turning on the

television and seeing americans get killed by shootings. seeing people walking down the street and getting shot down. the president of the united states giving his farewell address and two people being killed that day. >> now, mayor emanuel is in defiance with the white house when it comes to the issue of sanctuary cities, the white house made it clear federal grants will not be made available to cities like chicago unless they start enforcing federal immigration laws. the mayor said moments ago, in a press conference, that chicago will remain a sanctuary city. the dreamers as they call them will find themselves safe, secure, and supported in the city of chicago. >> mike tobin, thank you. all right, we are waiting for president trump who is visiting the department of homeland security. this as the white house says it will now prioritize enforcing immigration laws in the u.s. here's press secretary shawn spice area short time ago. >> the state department is going

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>> awaiting president trump to make remarks to the department of homeland security. this as moments ago, president trump signing an executive order to begin building the wall on

the southern border and increase the number of agents policing that border. there was also a ceremonial signing in with the vice president, vice president pence, of dhs secretary trif john kelly. catherine and leslie are here, both fox news contributors. thanks for joining us. i was interested to see a recent pugh poll talking about what americans care b the wall, the wall, the wall, what people are talking about. when you look at it, only 39% of those polled by pugh thought the wall us a maybe the most important. 73% thought that preventing immigrants here illegally from receiving government benefits if unqualified. that was way higher on the list. what do you think, leslie? >> it comes down to it's the economy stupid. it all ties in to money. this all ties in to money. before i came on, you said something and i was like, yes. why do people come here.

for better opportunity, money. why do people come here illegally? better opportunity and money. you have to stop dangling the carrot of opportunity in the form of jobs. when you look at this, what i'm seeing is that what we're hearing through the press secretary and the president and through tweets with regard to immigration, he is not echoing the sentiments of the american people because they're concerned about money and our people taking away from where their tax dollars are going, a system they perceive as having too many people to hand out, they don't feel people not here legally should have that. >> that's what, it's a totally different way of looking at this. rather than it being about border enforcement and walls. those kind of things which speak to national security. to be fair, that is also about terrorists coming into the country posing as immigrants. that's scary in and of itself. the main thing people think about is the financial aspect, whether inviting people here for the economic opportunity of work, or of our system. getting benefits whether it's

schools, walking into a hospital, that's an important piece. >> you can feel your checkbook every day on the day-to-day how it affects you. it's something you will be concerned about. in terms of the wall, that will be something very expensive. there's no indication rather than what trump says at mexico would ever pay are it. >> that's another issue. >> i'm saying there noz indication. that's a financial thing. >> totally disagree but we'll talk about it later. go ahead. >> but that's something you feel on the day-to-day. and in terms of, refugees, immigration, that's these larger issues that people need to study. people know what's happening in their checkbook and they want more money rather than less. they don't want to be paying for things if they don't have to be paying for for people here illegally. that would be a drain on the system like that. >> don't you think a lot of americans, they are not sean on foebs, they aren't -- xeno phones, they're not against people looking for the dream, all of our families, almost, came from somewhere else. when you're talking about precious resources, whether it's

in your community, you pay taxes for your school system, for healthcare, for all of these things. then some one comes in and they're getting that for free, that angers americans. >> it does anger them. when you look at the numbers, obviously, the overwhelming majority of people getting anything from our benefits and tax dollars are americans whether they were born here or came here legally. i think there's, i think some of their fear is based on some hype, you know, whether they got it through google or somewhere online or even just ramblings. i live in california, we have the largest undocumented worker population. for many, i think, it is regional. because in southern california, that may be a concern. but it's something that they're willing to work with. almost everybody knows somebody who knows somebody whose grandmother may have come illegally and they don't want generations beneath her to be deported. it ties into regional as well as economic. >> president trump promising investigation into alameda voter

fraud as the white house faces questions over the president's claim that 3 to 5 million illegal immigrants voted in november elections. catherine, this is one of those classic trump showdowns. he says something like, we can't let people in from countries where there's likely to be terror because they'll show up as refugees and people said he was a racist then it started happening. it feels like another one of those arguments where he says something, the "new york times" calls him a liar in a headline, now instead of backing away he's doubling down, he wants to do an investigation much does he turn out, does there end up being a thread that's true, that's provable, you look back and say he us a on to something? >> we'll find out. i see nothing wrong with an investigation, it's a great political response to people saying it's not true. i think that voter fraud does happen, it's been overstated bee people including trump but he's saying let's investigate it. i don't see why anyone would have a problem with him doing.

that we should investigate, why not. sxl what do you think about the fact out of the gate you have the media calling the president a liar? mile kids aren't allowed to use that word. but they aren't allowed to use so many of the words that come up in this election. politics isn't for the faint of heart. a newspaper putting it in print is a lot. but it's something the american people felt like, you know, look, i have never seen so fast after an election, i'm a democrat, republicans on twitter that are saying this is not what i elected you for. i don't care how many people voted for hillary versus you. you won, you got the job, do the job. and i do think this is a the reality is, the original statement had to do with undocumented or illegal immigrants voting in millions. it's beyond exaggeration. state by stit i saw before we came on a tweet from the state of ohio that says we've done our own investigation regarding voter fraud, we haven't found it here. this is something many republicans want. the states to handle that. all.

research that i have seen, even spans 14 years, they don't find his statement to be true. do we want our tax dollars if we're talking money paying there are to as well. >> feels like a clever political move, he's doing it for a reason to get people fighting on this topic. >> maybe to keep from others. >> we're waiting for president trump to speak at the department of homeland security where moments ago trump signing his executive orders on immigration and border security. what this means for illegal aliens with a criminal background. once they're apprehended. >> we're going to prioritize the prosecution and deportation of illegal immigrants. we've also violated laws. for lower back pain sufferers,

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be complicated. one idea out there, when he resoeshs the nafta free trade deal with mexico perhaps correcting that trade imbalance would in effect pay for it. a california congressman talked about working with the president to get it done. >> for more than a decade, the border patrol has asked to us give them the tools to do the job, to be able to do the job, with both the wall and the appointment of new u.s. attorneys that will punish coyotes, peep whom traffic in human beings, we will have an opportunity to really let our border enforcement work the way it was supposed to. those people who want to do those jobs to be able to do them efficiently. >> well melissa it's worth noting george w. bush signed a border fence law in 2006, but the senate never authorized the money. so, there's existing law to build a fence. now the administration is looking to give it a jumpstart. >> there you go. what are democrats saying about these executive actions? >> we haven't heard a lot yet. a lot of lawmakers i talk to say

they want to read the executive actions not just report about what's in the executive action. but the house democratic leader was asked earlier about the idea of blocking syrian refugees. >> however some of what he says will have its popular appeal, because the immigration was an issue that he fuelled the flames in his campaign. >> to be clear, republican lawmakers did not care for when president obama used his pen to go around them. and in this case it's safe to say democrats aren't crazy about this move by president trump. >> no kidding. mike emmanuel, thank you. border security and stemming the tide of illegal immigration with key concerns for president trump. as we await the president's statement at the department of homeland security the big question is how is executive orders will achieve those goals. white house press secretary sean spicer discussing steps to cut off funds for sanctuary cities

unless they enforce federal immigration laws. >> what the executive order does is directs the secretary to look at ways that the -- look at funding streams that are going to these cities of federal monies and figure out how we can defund those streams. part of this is a directive to the secretary to look at those funding streams and then figure out how they can be cut off. >> hmm. joining us is illinois congressman adam kingsinger, republican on the foreign affairs committee. it always comes down to money. that's what you heard sean spicer talking about right there. the idea of cutting off funds. is that possible, would it be effective, what do you think? >> yeah, i think it is possible. the question of how effective is really up to the different cities. federal funding is only a piece of, offense, how much funding a saurt city gets. they have state, local money as well. but finding out the areas where we can affect and have an impact. you think about even back to highway funding when president

reagan threatened states with pulling back highway funding if they didn't raise the drinking age. there's rules the federal -- roles the federal government can play. just even force federal laws. there's laws on the books, we want you to enforce them. we want to fix our immigration system but part is ensuring those breaking the law, bringing drugs, trafficking human beings are punishished, kicked out. i've worked the border of mexico and there's porous areas of it? absolutely. you heard mike emmanuel before you talking about the fact that not everybody is going to be happy that this. is using an executive order, the first one for example, calls for things like construction of a physical wall along the border, we know that. also hiring additional border patrol agents, more detention space for illegal aliens along the mexican border, eliminating catch and release, prioritizing prosecution of criminal offenses. which of those pieces do you think will be the most

difficult. >> i think they're all going to be very doable. you think about the executive branch is the branch supposed to execute the law. so you have laws on the books, the laws being the 2005 border fencing bill, the idea of a secure border, the fact that people should not be just released, they should be held and prosecuted. all of those are doable by the trump administration. when it comes to the financial side that's a big area where congress comes in, or creating new laws and changing policy. but i think the big thing to remember is when we talk about executive action, it's basically in the purview of the president to figure out how to execute laws on the books. we had heartburn with what happened with the last administration, in many cases the idea of i have a pen and a phone obviously, would be a flippant way to say it. but seemed to be changing policy and law. >> some of the pieces second executive order, though, are the ones that would give more heartburn as you said. without certain federal funding,

with hold federal funding on sanctuary cities, enhancing ice's ability to arrest and detain and remove illegal aliens. local mayors don't like that. give state department more tools to repatriate illegal aliens by withholding visa. restoring security community programs targeting cripples nals and aliens for removal. a lot of fight in those. >> yeah, and there will be. think think one of our goals, my goal in this, and president trump, will develop this i think further as he goes along, is a lot of americans have totally lacked faith in the country's ability to protect the southern border. if this is about drugs, criminals coming across the border. show we can take care of that, then we can go to the next steps of what do we do with the 15 million people here. nobody is saying we ought to deport all 15 million people. how do we deal with that. to get the american people's trust back, which they have lost faith in, we have to show that

we can control our borders and secure it. and i think that's what we will see president trump do and see a willing congress come in and back them up. >> back him up with dollars? that's the question. at the end of the day, almost every question comes down to money. if you look at the gao, they enthusiasm it's about 6.5 million per mile. they're look agent a total pricing of something like 18 billion dollars. are you guys in washington prepared to put up money for that? >> i think so. and that's what we'll figure out. national defense is the main priority of what we do. when it comes to funding our military, protecting our borders and things like. that but there's no doubt -- >> sorry to cut you off, we go to shepard smith with breaking news. >> shepard: the legendary actress mary tyler moore is dead today at the age of 80. her publicist confirmed the news to fox news a short time ago. tmz reported that moore was in grave condition at a hospital in connecticut.

and that family members had arrived to say their goodbyes. mary tyler moore had battled diabetes and doctors performed brain surgery in 2011. she could take a nothing day and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile. the legendary actress and voice of my childhood, mary tyler moore, dead today at 80. melissa back to you. >> shepard, thank you. apologize to the congressman for cutting him off as well for sad breaking news. all right, it was a promise, then candidate donald trump repeated on the campaign trail. >> president trump: we're going to build a wall. don't worry, who's going to pay for the wall, who's going to pay? i didn't hear you who's going to pay? better believe it. they're going to pay. they will be happy to pay. >> a big point of controversy. how exactly will president trump make this happen? one of his former economic advisors is here to explain those details. don't go away.

>> shepard: big story from the white house, first we will build a wall but you will pay for it. president trump now says mexico will pay us back except mexico says no we won't. also new action on sanctuary cities we will of details. and the president said he would have won the popular vote except that 3 to 5 million people voted illegally. no evidence of any kind yet president trump says he'll launch an investigation. except today, his spokesman said something else. and the legendary actress mary tyler moore died today, a tribute to the woman who promised "you're going to make it after all" unless breaking news changes everything. shepard smith reporting. >> as ship mentioned, we're awaiting president trump to speak to the department of homeland security after signing two executive orders there. one of those orders taking the first steps m constructing a wall along the u.s. mexico border. but how will mr. trump pay for

it. let's bring in steve moore, founder of the committee to unleash prosperity. i like that, former trump economic advisor, a fox news contributor. in so many ways this is just sort of bookkeeping and semantics. it's not that hard to make them pay for it. but how you account for that, i don't know how meaningful it is. let's dig in. number one, steve, an import tariff, with provisions that the funds go to pay for the wall. how possible do you think that is, how hard is that? >> it's a possibility. it's not something i would necessarily favor. but you know it's something that trump could potentially do unilaterally without congressional approval. murky laws about what the president can and can't do when it comes to trade tariffs and things of that nature. if trump wants to make mexico pay for the wall then one way to do it melissa would be to have this effective tariff on goods that come in from mexico and

dedicate that revenue to the cost of building the wall. which could be, we don't know how it will be, i've heard figures from 6 to 20 billion. >> it's one of those things that's pretty easy to do. but at the same time, my concern would be can you really earmark that revenue to go to paying back the funds that were spent on the wall. with politicians it can be, wait, where did that money go? you know, taxes on the roads. >> you create essentially a trust fund. but you're right, melissa, how many times has congress raided that trust fund. >> right. >> you have a good point there. another way that conceivably president trump, still getting used to saying that, could pay for this wall would be to have some kind of tax at the border. when a truck comes in or person comes in, in and out of the country and you know there are hundreds of thousands of border crossings every day, that you impose some kind of a transaction tax at the border. then use that money for the wall. that would be a possibility as

well. >> the hitch with that one, though, that's everybody that comes over the border. that's not mexico paying for the wall, that's anyone who crosses the border. hor would you set something up where it was only mexican citizens that were paying that tax. >> well, probably have to do it in a way that everybody pays the sort of tax when it comes to the border. that wouldn't necessarily be a bad way to fund it. because you know, it's sort of like a user fee, you're using the border and you pay for the security at the border. takes sense from the perspective of a user pays. >> yeah. another one would be, and this is where i kind of would see it happening most, there's some sort of negotiation that you have going on with mexico every year where they pay some portion and it could be either the aid that's traveling from the u.s., lots of people say you could withhold some portion of that. or in any of the other funds that flow back and forth between the countries. a lot of different ways that happens. >> i don't like that idea. you're right, could be, you're talking about the remit answers

that say mexicans who come into the country send back -- >> no, no, with the government specifically. we'll get to remit answers next. but with aid that we send to mexico, various things. >> sure, that would be a good way of doing it, too. there will be negotiations, donald trump is going to sit across the table from the mexican president and they're going to figure out how to do this. this all comes in the context of president trump wants to renegotiate nafta, this could be part of those negotiations where they agree to some pay for some part of the bill in exchange for continuing these open borders. i'm a big fan of nafta and open border with mexico with respect to goods and services. but you have to work out those details. one of them might be you're going to have to help us pay for this wall which i think trump is going to make the case this this is go towing benefit both countries. >> you mention remit answers, people sending money back and forth to each other, that seems like it's taxing the people who can afford it the least. i don't love that one.

in the end, when people say mexico is not going to pay for this, there's no way, that there's going to be accounting where some one says, look, this money came into the country from mexico for this and we're making up for the wall. when n. the end, technically can you say they did it. but it's sort of semantics, because it was money coming in anyway, we're just calling it money for the wall. what do you think about that notion? >> washington is famous for using the same dollars twice, right? we have big deficits, because we earmark something for something and then it's used for something else. on the remit answers i feel strong buy this. one of our best ways of helping poor people in mexico is when these mexicans come into the country and they work hard and they skrimp and they save and send $40 or $50 back to their family members, it's -- it's the only form of foreign aid that actually works. >> yeah, yeah, we have to go. absolutely. thank you so much.

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>> okay, we have the president walking out on stage right now at the department of homeland security. let's listen in. [ applause ]

>> president trump: thank you. wow, that's beautiful. so nice. good, great people. thank you. first i want to congratulate secretary john kelly and his wife, kathleen. where is kathleen? she's here some place. [ applause ] john brings the skills, the leadership, background, the experience, strength, and definitely the determination that you have to have to get the job done and to get it done correctly. he will deliver for you, he will deliver for the country, he will deliver for the american people like you've never seen before. [ applause ]

we also just finished a briefing with the acting administrator of fema, bob fenton, and discussed the terrible storms that struck the southeastern united states. our nation sends its thoughts and prayers to everyone impacted by this incredible tragedy. i've instructed fema to do all they can to help those suffering and affected. already, we've approved georgia, pls, and others -- mississippi and others are rapidly on their way. fema has done an incredible job of speed and they need speed. homeland security is in the business of saving lives and that mandate will guide our aks. -- actions. the department of homeland security has many, many different divisions. but one of the most important

misses of dhs is its law enforcement mission. this is a law enforcement agency. [ applause ] but, for too long, your officers and agents haven't been allowed to properly do their jobs. you know that, right? do you know that? absolutely. but that's all about to change. and i'm very happy about it and you're very happy about it. from here on out, i'm asking all of you to even force the laws of the united states of america. they will be enforced, and enforced strongly. [ applause ] because people are surprised to

hear that we do not need new laws. we will work within the existing system and frame work. we are going to restore the rule of law in the united states. before we go any further, i want to recognize the i.c.e. and border patrol officers in this room today and honor their service and not just because they unanimously endorsed me for president. [ laughing ] that helps. but that's not the only reason. [ applause ] i want to acknowledge two individuals in the audience who will play a very, very important role going forward. i'd like to recognize brandon judd, the president of the national border patrol council. and chris crane, two friends of mine, president of national i.c.e. council. you guys are about to be very,

very busy doing your job the way you want to do them. where are they? where are those guys. thank you fellows. [ applause ] thank you very much. here in the middle of a crisis on our southern border, the unprecedented surge of i willing my dprants from central america is harming mexico and the united states. i believe the steps we will take starting right now will improve the safety in both of our countries. going to be very, very good for mexico. a nation without borders is not a nation. beginning today, the united states of america gets back control of its borders, gets back its borders. [ applause ] thank you. i just signed two executive

orders that will save thousands of lives, millions of jobs, and billions and billions of dollars. these two orders are part of an immigration reform we outlined during the campaign. i want to emphasize that we will be working in partnership with our friends in mexico to improve safety and economic opportunity on both sides of the border. i have deep admiration for the people of mexico and i greatly look forward to meeting, again, with the president of mexico. we will be doing that shortly. we will discuss close coordination on many, many important issues between our countries. this coordination includes the dismantling of cartels, and keeping illegal weapons and cash from flowing out of america and into mexico, out of our country, out of the united states, and it

goes right in to mexico. they have to stop it. we have to stop it. we're going to save lives on both sides of the border. we understand a strong and healthy economy in mexico is very good for the united states. very good. we want that to happen. by working together on a positive trade, safe borders and economic cooperation, i truly believe we can enhance the relation between our two nations to a degree not seen before circling in a very, very long ti. i think our relationship with mexico is going to get better. here's a brief summary of what actions are contained in my executive orders. the secretary of homeland security working with myself, my staff will begin immediate