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>> eric: well, that is it for us on the super monday. >> melissa: yes, that was fun. "happening now" starts right now. ♪ >> jon: president trump launching new attacks on the media. as well as federal judges who rule for the executive order on immigration. good monday to you. i am jon scott. >> jenna: hello, everyone. i am jenna lee crating and holding on the travel restrictions, people entering from seven majority muslim countries. that is a part of the executive order. and the rolling could come as early as this afternoon. john roberts is live at the white house this morning. >> good morning to you. the white house is arguing that it is a president who has the authority over immigration and national security and not a federal judge in seattle. also arguing that it is a president who has the intelligence about threats
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facing the country. we will take you back a little bit on friday. at the federal judge in seattle, james robillard, a bush era appointee. a temporary restraining order which restrained many of the critical parts of the executive order on extreme vetting. the judged opens up the territory to things that are not within our best interest at heart. they have instructed homeland security to check people coming into the country very carefully. the courts are making the job very difficult. now we have court cases on two parallel tracks here. the ninth circuit is going to take up this issue that was filed in this case by the states of washington and minnesota. the executive order that extreme vetting violates the constitution on two fronts prior to the violation because in the first amendment, and the 14th amendment for protection under the law. what is under the ninth circuit
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right now is whether or not to lift the restraining order. the ninth circuit refused to overturn it on the weekend because they wanted more information. so it has asked the white house to fire a brief today. the white house upset over the corporation cnn poll that defines the majority of people against his order on extreme vetting, 53% against, 47% for. the split is not that big. but the president is taking to twitter to say that any fake polls are not news. people want border security and extreme vetting. the white house has until 6:00 tonight to file its response for the ninth circuit looking for more information. it is possible that we could get an opinion as early as 9:00 tonight. maybe before that even if the white house gets the brief more quickly than the 6:00 p.m. deadline. we remind you that the ninth circuit court of appeals is the most liberal court of appeals in
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the country. so if they vote against the white house, it is likely that this will end up in the supreme court, but if they vote in favor, it is also likely that the plaintiffs were to get to the supreme court as well. judge napolitano has been arguing that the people who filed this case do not have standing, they are not the ones who would be grievously harmed by the extreme vetting order. we will find out as early as today where they go. >> jenna: we will be watching the news, thank you. >> jon: the chaotic rollout on the war of immigration, and some low approval numbers may have the administration thinking about the off-the-cuff strategy we have seen in the first couple days of the presidency. of joining us for more on this, karl rove, the senior executive of staff to george bush. you have been there in the early days of a new white house, is this a kind of shaky start that every white house experiences?
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>> well, every white house has bombs that they run into you because you have inexperienced people in the white house. i was one, for example. but i also worked in a white house with people who had been there before, and a card, josh bolton. so this is a white house with far fewer people at the top who have had prior experience. and i think as a result, the rollouts was bumpier then most white house aides have had, and i think the president was right in saying that we need to get to the act together. there was a ten-point checklist, we do not know exactly what is on it. but i hope they have the right things on it to learn from the mistake. we need to correct it and be better in the future. >> jon: the "times" a story that is out today, a convenient portrait of the president, his wife and youngest son are living in manhattan where barron goes to school. but they rollouts at about 6:30 in the evening, there by
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himself, trying to get used to the new residents and to the new way of doing things. is that potentially part of the problem? >> well, i do not think so. it would be wise to realize, and i think that the president understands that he is a great schmoozer. if you're going to be there alone in the evening, go up there and invite some people over for dinner. either people -- you know, invite your new secretary of state over for a casual dinner. it invites kevin mccarthy, the number two in the house to invite people over. have a bipartisan -- senators and house members, come down and smoke a cigar on the truman balcony, and have a social meeting for about half an hour, 45 minutes, an hour. the president's time in the evening, do not to let him be alone by himself. if he is comfortable around people for some part of the evening, take advantage of having the greatest place to bring people in the world. particularly over the last eight
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years. i had a president when bush was in, if you would've told me that i was in the white house more when bush was in office them when my guy, obama was in office, i would have laughed. president trump can be the beneficiary of the distance that has grown personally between the congress and the white house by making good employee use of it. >> jon: one of the criticisms that has been done during the rollout of immigration, the house speaker's office, white house aides, other people that are critical to the chain here were left in the dark. how was it handled in the bush administration? is that the typical thing that you would alert a house speaker too? >> no, there are two mistakes. you put your finger on one of them. after their first mistake needs to be a thorough comprehensive review of policy process that involves all of the major players in the government who gets a chance to talk about it.
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if you have major disagreements command apparently one of the major disagreements was how do we handle green card holders? people who are permanent legal residents of the united states? the cabinet secretary involved apparently. the home security secretary. ansley popped it out without giving him a chance to sit in the oval office and make his case. so first of all, a breakdown in the policy process, the policy process needs to be thorough, comprehensive, detailed, and every player gets to be a part of it. not settled by one guy up, but it's one guy going in and saying here's how i want to do it. but mr. president we have a disagreement, let's hear from the two people on the different sides. the second problem is process versus execution. you do not want the people running the policy process to be the people in charge of executing. you have the domestic policy council or the national economic council, or the national security council.
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they ought to be in charge of executing. and part of the execution is to do what you just said. for example, you get all of the efforts, all of the office is involved. office of affairs has to come up with a strategy. who do we talk to in congress before we do this and when? the office of public liaisons those who are the allies on the outside that we can get wrapped up and ready to go? and international government affairs says what kind of materials do we need to have that we send every governor, every mayor to their organizations and the governors directly to the offices? that can only be done if you have one counsel. his domestic policy for domestic stuff. national economic for economic. national security, homeland security should've been in charge of the execution. >> jon: karl rove, he knows the inner workings well. interesting perspective. thank you. speak to some other news, new news for president trump with replacement for obamacare.
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is telling bill o'reilly a replacement or parts of it would come likely within this year. he also left some room for the changes to come in the next year as well. that is the contestants. live in a d.c. bureau with more. >> recognizing the disappointment that people could see telling bill o'reilly that obamacare cannot be appealed till next year. but then quickly added that his administration should have something proposed by the end of this year with more to come in 2018. the time frame by one the republicans controlling the house and senate would be able to move legislation repealing the affordable care act even if they left some parts of the signature domestic program in place appears to have shifted. after the republican retreat, paul ryan outlined an aggressive repeal slated for rollouts on the hill in march. now the leader of the house freedom caucus which prizes small government and reduction, tries to appeal sooner than
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later. gun wondering if they are equally committed to swift action. >> we believe that that needs to be the very first part of march if it is going to be march. and we need to finally vote on what ultimately will come back from the senate. the interesting is that we were going to wait for the retreat. now we are waiting for march. are we going to wait for august recess? i certainly hope not. >> we want to move ahead as quickly as we can sing the democrats are obstructing what we want to do on the floor of the sentence, so we are continuing to work on this. we have meetings on it every day. continuing to work on legislation. >> speaker ryan has also sought to -- substituting repair for repeal and replace. you can ask repair obamacare. it is a collapsing law. by its 18 million americans would lose health coverage if the affordable care act were repealed without a replacement
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of any kind. speak to lot at stake, a lot of different ways. thank you very much. we will have much more on the replacement when our political panel weighs in. the delay could have impact on the president and g.o.p. the debates coming up moments from now. >> jon: caught on camera, a fireball lights up the night sky. we will tell you what it was and where was spotted. the president's nominee for the supreme court's meeting with eight key democrats on capitol hill today. other democrats say that republicans stole deceit when they refused to consider president obama's nominee. while democrats try to block judge gorsuch? especially for people with heart failure. but today there's entresto... a breakthrough medicine that can help make more tomorrows possible. tomorrow, i want to see teddy bait his first hook. in the largest heart failure
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an attorney covering the supreme court for two decades, love talking to tim about the issues. great to having you back on the program. >> always a pleasure. >> jenna: a lot of news about the administration and congress coming on the philosophical question just to start off here. is this the way that the government was set up to a function where there will be a lot of tension between all of the branches of government? >> yes, it was. i think the framers of the constitution envisioned hard-fought fights, but maybe not the extent that we are getting now. we expect congress and the white house and the courts to disagree. that is why you have separation of powers. it does not trouble me. i think in the end it will all be resolved. >> jenna: a lot of headlines on that, that's why i ask the big picture question. when it comes to the potential confirmation of neil gorsuch, do you see what is happening about these debates over whether there will be a filibuster is typical, sort of a typical cycle for a nominee?
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or something atypical about what we are witnessing? >> well, it is not exactly typical. we are living in different times after the defeat. the rules have changed when the ideology can affect the balance of the courts. the opposition party is going to put up a big fight. i do think that we are going to see a serious inquiry into judge gorsuch's qualification, and that is very healthy. i think some people say it is over-the-top. but the framers of the constitution had that in mind. it is the opposition's party, they are the only ones who can truly vet the nominee. the republicans on the judiciary committee are expected to go a little bit easy on him. so there is a great deal of responsibility for democrats on the judiciary committee. having said that, i do think that they will confirm him. i do not think there will be a filibuster. keep in mind that this appointment is not going to change the direction of the court. he would replace justice scalia,
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they seem to have the same views. if there is another appointment for president trump, then they would replace anthony kennedy or one of the more liberal justices. about the scenario would come back to life. i think that you would see a real fight. democrats would go to the mat on that. >> jenna: you mentioned that judge gorsuch is meeting with feinstein a few hours from now. what do you think that is the most serious question that he will have to answer from democrats? >> well, there are a number of serious questions and some not serious questions. if they cannot ask him how he will vote on a specific question, just as you do not one judges to do it from the floor, you do not want senators from the committee room. some of the things you expect to have a good judge, there is a difference from a social conservative and judicial conservative. a judge can be both. a social conservative for
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example, might be very much opposed to roe vs. wade. the decision legalizing abortion. i also think that that decision is absolutely wrong. it should be overruled and not ever written. even so, there is such a thing as allegiance to president. a conservative justice considers the impact of overruling a time monitored president may have. and this is for 45 or more years. it is not whether it was rightly decided, but what kind of chaos would arise if you were to overrule it on a 5-4 vote. another important consideration that can be looked into is we talk a lot about judges not deciding cases, not legislating from the bench. judges in a democracy you should show some difference to congress and state legislators. given a statute that might be constitutionally questionable, what should a judge do? try to breathe life into it or a stake through the heart? they should try to breathe life into it. >> jenna: is interesting that you are saying that, because
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that is being asked about the executive order. today the other news item that we are awaiting a ruling from the ninth circuit court of appeals in san francisco on the president's executive order often described as the most liberal of all of those courts. there is a day with a temporary suspension of the executive order right now. they are going to be ruling on it. how do you think that story is impacting neil gorsuch? >> i don't think it is at all. he is not going to be voting on this. i do think however that the ninth circuit is not among the more liberal circuits, but to the more predictable circuits. i think 27 judges, so a lot will depend on which judges consider this. i will say this, but if the ninth circuit denies a state and it goes to the supreme court, it only takes four boats to review a case, but it takes five to get a stay. i do not think they are there for the administration on this. >> jenna: i was curious about the challenges that might be
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around neil gorsuch, even though he would not have to rule on the executive order. but having to go through the interviews, pardon me, the casual conversations if you will on capitol hill, while this big national story is playing out where you see attention from the court and the executive branch. what sort of precedent there might be for an individual having to confront a big story like this while in conversation with lawmakers? >> well, i think there might be a lot that is said that is off i think that the president's comments about the so-called judged has raised eyebrows around the country and certainly within the judiciary. i think somebody ruling against him, a judge against him referred to trump as a so-called president. only one can imagine the tweets they go out on that. that has not helped. but an interesting conversation pit i think anything that gorsuch would say about it, probably not anything, but at the background off the record. >> jenna: i'm sure. great to have you back on the program. we always look forward to the
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conversations. >> thank you very much. >> jon: quite a show in the sky of her folks in one part of the country. so what is that fireball that you are seeing streak across the sky there? who got to see it? plus president trump is no fan of the media, now one reporter might be taking his side. what he is saying about journalists in the white house. our media panel weighs in. i mean wish i had time to take care of my portfolio, but..
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then camming themselves as the islands of taiwan, they are disputed. at the united states believes that japan has the legitimate claim. now china has sailed its warships through japanese waters. territorial waters and pass the snekaku islands. this again against the backdrop of secretary james mattis who was in tokyo a couple of days ago saying that the u.s. would defend japan's claims. we will certainly keep an eye on this very interesting and developing story. ♪ >> jenna: back here at home, quite a show in the skies when met or made an appearance. more than 100 people reported seeing the fireball just before 1:30 in the morning. most sightings were in the chicago area. but the meteor was spotted across the midwest and in canada as well. appearing as a fireball, even popping up on police department
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-- cams. insecurity footage. that's would be an odd site. >> jon: a fox news alert. president trump is arriving in tampa. a playback from a couple of seconds ago. you can recognize the distinctive paint scheme on air force one there. he is going to be making a speech at centcom. central command as well as southern command. both of which are located there in the tampa area. you can see the military staff preparing to greet the president. it will be fascinating to hear what he has to say. we'll have that for you as we get it. ♪ >> you seem to think that the media is also at war with trump is that fair? >> absolutely. i do not think that there would be anybody who would credibly
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disagree with this. >> many journalists say absolutely not. not a war against trump. >> it's just like preposterous. and also the interesting thing is then you can follow them on twitter where they are having a very personal war with donald trump. >> or a war against lying and falsehood. >> very clearly at the center of this is this new grail that we have. how are we going to take this guy down? >> jon: one member of the media they are seeming to take president trump's side, michael wolf, a columnist from the hollywood reporter says that journalists seem to be overreacting and making themselves the story. they cover these early days of the trump administration. joining us now with her insides, jeff mason, a white house correspondent, and president of the correspondent association. aunt lech rich lowry. welcome to both of you. >> thank you.
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>> jon: let's start with you. a competitive appearance on cnn. what do you think about what michael wolf has to say? essentially he says that the media demeaned themselves in trying to take down the trump administration. >> i think he is exactly right. his analysis is spot on. and newsrooms have benefited from having people who share michael wolf's view on this. his view of the proper role of the press. of course there should be tough coverage of the white house. there should be fact-checking of the white house. all of that is entirely appropriate. but the press is not the opposition party. and really since last summer in the campaign, the press has talked itself in to the role being stopping donald trump. there was a brief may be five day window of introspection after trump won against all expectations. and then the media snapped back into the extremely serial mode.
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>> jon: lets me read one of the points that michael wolf made in a piece that he recently wrote, jeff. i want her reaction. he writes of course the media's inability leaves it to try all of the more paired with a list of attempts is long, the dossier, the tax returns, the countable dilemma conflict over interest, et cetera. and the media believes that this ultimately brings him down. in turn, the more stuff that is piled on the trump team believes, the more it is all diminished. what do you think about that? >> well, i think as i have been saying for some time now that the use of though word war with the media or trump administration is not our word. i cannot speak for the media at large, but i can speak for the white house correspondents association and the correspondence that we associate. our job is to do our job. that means doing good journalism, checking facts, writing good stories. and we are advocating for the
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ability to do that at the white house. that is not a war, that is doing our work. >> jon: let me play a little bit more of the michael wolf wolf appearance on the media show for you right now. >> journalists are in many cases having a nervous breakdown. a good example of the new yorker, the new yorker has 100 years, one style of journalism. very detailed. very close reporting. since the election, david remnick, the editor of "the new yorker" has gone off in fits. it never seen in its before. no facts, no nothing. he knows no one in the new administration. no reporting. and yet the world is coming to an end in his view. >> jon: having just been corrected, brian. >> adding insult to injury ther there. >> jon: i apologize for confusing your name.
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>> not at all. we look a little bit alike. >> jon: that is the joy of live television. we watch the president getting ready to deplane from air force one. he will be speaking to officials at centcom and so calm. we should have that for your life. but to his point, he suggests that the medias cannot abide the trump administration. and want to dump as much as possible because they simply feel that the president and his team are not qualified. >> yes, i think the point is unassailable. let me try to square the circle of what jeff is saying and what i am saying. there are a lot of good journalists. and i am sure that a lot of the folks are doing really good work. but there is this haze of hysteria over what the coverage of this administration where every other day you have some half-baked story, state department resignations, the dossier, it is played like it is the end of the world. and we never see coverage that
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is quite this harsh and confrontational. and where i think michael wolf is also red, the trump administration enjoys it. >> jon: gentlemen, if you would stay us for a quick break, we will also be back for a quick moment. ♪ everything your family touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox.
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there. he will be speaking to the military at centcom. we expect to have those comments where you live. we will be seeing him emerging from air force one and just a moment. if we want to go back to the media panel, of course. of talking about michael wolf's piece where he criticizes the media for its coverage of the trump administration. joining us once again, jeff mason and president of the white house correspondent, rich lowry. editor of "national review." jeff, give us a sense. are there restrictions that you did not experience with the obama administration? >> you know that i would say that there are always difficulties covering a new administration. and we expected the transition to be difficult. there is a new team that has not been in the white house as long as the previous administration, obviously. some growing pains. that said we have had pretty good access to the president and the purse two weeks of the administration. that is good.
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you ask about frustrations. i will tell you that i did not expect to have some of the discussions that we have had to had in terms of making sure that we stay in the press room. making sure that a press pool continues to cover the president. but we have had those discussions in a construction way. the outcomes have been positive. >> jon: let me read two more quotes from the michael wolf piece. the media's take on the trump administration, he writes that the media's view is that the trump people are not that only mendacious, but in incomes. alternative facts, given that trump is out of largely controlled. and people are struggling to save him from himself and largely failing. and then conversely, it is the trump view that the media has been so wrong in the predictions and made to look in the eyes of the public so woeful and ludicrous, it must double down in an effort to prove its thesis about the presidency and restore its honor.
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jeff, i want to get your take on those two characterizations. is there any accuracy at all? >> i would go back to what i said before. it is the job of the media. it is the drop of toros -- of white house correspondence to report the news. at air force one, you just show those shots. and how the news as governing. i'm not going to get into describing adjectives or assigning adjectives to that coverage. i think it is important for us to do the jobs. i think the tone that the president and his people have said is up to them. it is our job not to let that get in the way of doing the wort requires. it guarantees us our ability and right to do. >> jon: he did appeal to people's distrust or discussed even for the media during the campaign. and as president he seems to be continuing on that path. >> the media needs to realize
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that it has an enormous credibility problem. the approval ratings, ratings for trust are completely in the tank. and i would think that if i am a reporter in the trump years, i will want to go out of my way to be more responsible and more fair, to realize that maybe i am part of a herd mentality. maybe i'm a little bit out of touch. and maybe there should be some modesty and my coverage because of that. and jeff is right. there are reporters that behave that way. that is not generally how the media has behaved since the election. in the first two weeks, constant hysteria and a sense that the world is coming to the end. we hear it every other day. i think that it behooves our friends in the press all to take a deep breath. >> jon: we just saw the president to send from air force one, he has now climbed into the new presidential limousine, the "beast" as a college. and he arrived in washington to
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shake up the establishments, and he may be shaking up foreign policy. we will hear more when he speaks to the assembled military today. jeff mason, president of of the white house correspondents association, and rich lowry. thank you both. >> thank you, jon. >> jenna: a lot to talk about today, postponing to the sanctions with the u.s. military. we have details ahead on that.
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♪ >> jon: president trump extending his timetable to replace obamacare. some republicans signal an interest in repairing the law instead of a full repeal. here's what the president had to say in an interview with bill o'reilly. >> can americans in 2017 and expect new health care plan rolled out by the trump administration? >> in the process, and maybe it will take until sometime next year. we are certainly in the process. it's very complicated. obamacare is a disaster.
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you have to remember that obamacare does not work. we are putting in a wonderful plan. it is statutorily taking a wild together. we will be putting it in fairly soon. i think that yes, i would like to say by the end of the year. at least the rudiments, but we should have something within the year into the following year. >> jon: within the year, what is causing the delay? a former advisor to bill clinton, and a former bloomberg advisor. former assistant to george w. bush also with us. at the president said repeal and replace when he was campaigning, now it is going to be adjusted into next year. is that wise, brad? >> it is very wise, the democrats have jammed through obamacare with one single rep/without one single republican standing 20 minutes. and remember nancy pelosi who said we have to pass it to find out what is in it. those days are over. this has to be deliberate and
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fair. a law that somebody understands. both the consequences intended and unintended. by the way, generational. it has to have bipartisan support. so as you go it is a mess. we have to appeal back the onion and repeal and replace it. that is what is going to be done. it will be modified in a sense that we will keep things like pre-existing conditions. having kids stay on the policy until 26. it will not be like anything we know obamacare as today. >> jon: leaving it in place might make democrats happy, but there are republicans who are rumbling, they want this thing out of there yesterday. >> well, yes. this becomes a republican problem now. brad may be right that this was a democratic initiative, and democrats got the blame and what little credit there was. but the failure to do what they said they would do in the campaign which is repeal and replace, i think is going to be
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a millstone around the republicans neck. there are 20 million people who could lose coverage potentially. there are insurance networks that could fall apart because of the uncertainty. and frankly, we are in a very, very dangerous situation. this is happening because the republicans just don't know what to do. >> jon: what about the politics of it? if you're go slow approach is what the president and his team intends to do, doesn't that effectively insure or try to ensure that it is going to be whatever replacement they come up with as a lease disrupted as possible? >> that is the goal. we want to make it as least disruptive as possible. this was not our problem. it is with problem created by the obama win -- administration. and the terms come. if we do not have a repeal and replace them by then.
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it is not understood by the american people. and most important i appreciated by them. if that will be a problem for republicans. but there was no gun to the republicans had to like there was for democrats to jam something grew. we have done that to work. repeal and replace has to be done thoughtfully. we must have bipartisan support for this in order for it to work properly. >> jon: so regarding the politics of it it seems like if people are as happy with obamacare as many democrats say, then they are not going to mind living under it for another year or whatever it takes. the people who would be most disappointed would be the most ardent supporters, right? >> i think both. thought presidents ardent supporters recognize that the administration has not completely kept its word. and a lot of democrats are very nervous that the attendance of obamacare, affordable health care for extending coverage as i indicated is up to
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20 million people at risk and at jeopardy. and indeed, if you do not have enough people in the system, the insurance networks could fall apart. so this is a very precarious situation politically and sustainably. and i think that the democrats per for -- prepare to be in their position. >> jon: it will be fascinating to watch over the next year. thank you very much. >> jenna: tensions raising with iran, is a showdown coming, we will go in depth ahead. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts.
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heating up after the blocking of the immigration order. a court deadline is within hours as mr. trump warns, if something happens, blame the judge. is that fair? should the courts be involved in national security issues. >> and the president is blaming obama people for leaking transcripts of his calls with leakers. are the leakers in danger of security? >> all of that plus our one lucky guy. all of that coming up. it will put a hurt on you. >> jon: we will be watching, thank you. >> let's talk about iran, your assessment? do you think we are on a collision course, we being the united states without country? >> i think it was the worst deal that should have been negotiated. absolutely, the deal that was made by the obama administration. i think it is a shame that we have had a deal like that and that we had to sign a deal like that. >> that was president trump discussing growing tensions with iran. and the new sanctions with the suggestion said that they could destroy the u.s. fleet.
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or with the vice president of research at the defense of democracy and for the foreign analyst in d.c. just in general, jonathan, as you have seen the news, a cycle over the last couple of days. do you think that's all of this heated rhetoric puts us a very close to a boiling point? how are you assessing the situation? >> hello, i do not see this as being sort of a prelude to conflict. i think that the distinctions that were imposed on iran were in response to a specific event. it was a ballistics missile tests, the 12th test since the nuclear deal was signed in 2015. the obama administration really declined to respond to these. i think it was a weak policy on their part. a trump administration made a very clear that they imposed those sanctions as a direct response to the missile threats. and today he essentially told iran not to do it anymore.
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that's what the u.s. should have been doing. it is what the people have posted should have been doing. it was a response to what we saw last week. >> jenna: how do you think the trump administration shall respond to the stories that are coming out of a run with the state-sponsored news agencies that iran is going to go after our base. into that in a few minutes time they could also fire a missile at tel aviv. what should our response be if anything to that? >> it should be to impose sanctions on iran, there are so many targets that we have not touched, many that were delisted as a result of the nuclear deal. we can certainly arm our eyelashes in the region and make sure that they have the capacity to respond to the iranians in the face of aggression. and i think that we need to really start to impose the nuclear deal. let's make sure to enforce it. so that when they step out of bounds, we have the ability to
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cause some pain. >> jenna: let's talk more about the sanctions specifically, over the last couple of years we have talked about sanctions, some of which you like, some you don't. what is it about the sanctions that you think are particularly effective that they are actually getting the response from iran? >> book, we had a huge amount of pressure on iran before the deal was signed. it was one of the things that brought them to the table in the first place was that they were really feeling it. primarily because they were cut off from the financial system. the former financial system. they cannot spank anywhere. right now they are back on the system, but there is a lot of companies and international banks that refused to deal with iran because of the risk involved. we do not even have, it is not the pain that they are feeling through the sanctions, but because people understand that iran is a rogue actor, that is one of the reasons why they are frustrated. and perhaps why they act out the way they do. >> jenna: i saw another news item, a small article tucked
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into "the new york post," and it was talking about the iran nuclear chief claiming that he was stockpiling uranium. i was curious about your thoughts, what is that all about? >> this is natural uranium that they are bringing in. it is technically illegal according to the deal. it is one of those things that underscores how flawed the deal was to begin with. that iran can do this legally. it is part of the jcp oh eight. what does iran need all of the uranium for if not for a nuclear weapon, why we do need to get back in there and try to enforce things, maybe even change things a little bit. >> jenna: we will see what the next step is, jonathan, great to have you back on the program. thank you. >> jon: knew in the next hour of "happening now," a suspect arrested. six months after the brutal death of the jogger. what police say was the motive for them murder.
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>> jon: allow more news coming up in the next hour. we expect to hear from the president as well. >> jenna: yes, we expect to hear from him at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. we will see you back here as well. >> jon: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> another first-time event per president trump, the, the commander-in-chief has arrived in tampa, florida. president trump will receive command briefings from both of the u.s. central command and u.s. special operations command. he has been scheduled to have lunch with enlisted troops before making what is called an all hands address to coalition representatives and senior u.s. commander. we expect video of the lunch with arm service members. when we get it, you will see it right here. we are also watching this, the showdown over at the immigration order. the justice department has until 6:00 p.m. eastern to file briefs in a lawsuit against donald trump's t
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