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stops right here, because we're looking out for you. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," education secretary has been at her post for all three days but protesters are already using harassment to keep her from doing her job. we'll find out what's setting them off. we'll talk to a professor for a novel idea for fixing poverty in this country, give everybody a government job. last week at nyu, writers shut down a planned a speech by vice cofounder gavin mcginnis,ee one student says this speakers organizer should be punished for this provocation. in a piece for it to make written for "washington square news, that nyu student newspaper, they say that college republicans should be kicked off
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campus providing the macro for inviting devon mcginnis to speak there. mcginnis' beliefs is beyond our sense of democratic values and intimate and there for us to be suppressed, joins us tonight from new york, and for comings on. >> thank you for what having me. >> tucker: because this is the crux of your argument, i want you to be more specific. you said that his point of view and i quote beyond our sense of democratic values. what democratic values specifically are you referring to? >> first of all, talker, i want you to thank you for letting me on. the reason icc accepted the come on here is because what i wrote the was actually suppressed by the newspaper. it gave me a sense of i really need to have what i believe. and actually decided to tell me to change my words. i appreciate the fact that you have me on and you are allowing
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me to say it from my perspective. >> tucker: we always do. >> i did research on it today and -- you are a free-speech fundamentalist, who believe free-speech should be open and did not shouldul be curbed at ay point. >> tucker: i'm an american, but i'm trying to get to the core of your argument. >> my argument was suppressed, a want to be able to say it. >> tucker: let's make this really simple for our viewers who don't know the back story. your op-ed you wrote for the paper, you suggest that republicans at nyu should be sanctioned at some way for daring to have gavin mcginnis on campus and your justification for that is his views are so beyond the pale yonder our democratic values that we shouldn't be allowed to hear them. >> what i don't want to do is do with the student paper at nyu did which is put words in my mouth and change my words. let me tell my own story. is that okay? >> tucker: with haste. >> so one of the sentences that was taken out was the question,
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"does the university -- is it obliged to protect the speech of someone who comes on campus and advocates and recruits foran al qaeda"? what do you think about that? >> tucker: d i don't know if that's in question here. >> that's exactly the question i want to raise, which was suppressed. i am bringing that question, another question that was altered is the question should the university protects someone who comes on campus and advocate vigilante bias against police officers who killed the civilians and have not been indicted? that was suppressed by those editors. i want a place where i can have this conversation pit what do you think about this? should someone who actually advocates killing police officers be allowed to debate on campus -- -- not even debate, t the come on and see what they >> tucker: you're asking a question let me answer it. >> telll me, i want to know. >> tucker: this isn't a question for the college demonstrators to the q side,
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brandenburg versus ohio 1969, the last free-speech case. the u upshot of it is not advocating violence is indeed protected speech. politicians do it all the time, we are to bomb this country are, what is not protected his insight and violence imminent violence and destruction or mayhem, i cannot say go smash the windows of that liquor store. here's my point. anything that gavin mcginnis conceivably said or what have said on your campus is protected speech, if you take 10 minutes to google this, you would know that. it's really not a close call here. what he's doing is protected by the first amendment to the constitution. for you to say that people should be sanctioned -- >> do you think people should recruit for al qaeda on a college campus? >> tucker: i'm completely against al qaeda. >> should it be protected byca administrators on a campus? >> tucker: i think people ought to be able to express their political views no matter how repugnant to you or me or anyone else along as they in good accordance to the supreme court decision from 1969
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are not inciting imminent violence. ice believe i'm understanding tt correctly and i think you should. >> i do believe that. i absolutely believe that, i also believe that our our there are arguments, there are points to be made that are beyond the pale of his possible dialogue. >> tucker: okay. >> i think someone coming in and saying -- >> tucker: name one. >> i just did two. both of which were suppressed, they were not allowed to be discussed in this newspaper. and you've not really answer my question either. my stand is this. we do not live in a society in which any speech should or iss guaranteed. okay? so -- i also believe, i was sitting on a subway on the way here. i was sitting in the subway on new york city and i invite all your listeners to come and sit and listen to the subway in new york city where a cross-section of humanity, that's amazing. i was wondering, do you know what could change my mind? we believe that all men are created equal, this is a
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founding -- >> tucker: you're started to lose me. >> let me get to it. we believe all men are created equal, when someone likens people of color to monkeys, that resonates for some people to be beyond the pale of acceptable american values, right?na because if our country is based on an idea that we are all equal, then you cannot -- right -- an argument whether some people are below human. that to me is something that does not belong on a campus. >> tucker: you don't like it and i don't either and i think that's an awful sentiment and i would never defend it, and yet both of us are bound as americans to defend the right of people to express views that we disagree with, even if we consider them repugnant or wron wrong. short of inciting imminent violence, we have to say i disagree with you, here's the counter case, here's why you are wrong, here's why you shouldn't say things like that. but we cannot prevent people from expressing what they believe. that is the essence of our democratic values, and you don't seem to understand that. >> so you would stand up for
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someone who actually wants to recruit for an organization that has said they would want to hurt the united states. he would stand up for that person's right to speak on a college campus. college campuses are not american society, they are specific places where people are debating and talking to each other. >> tucker: except 20 disagree with you, t in case you want their production by saying that it's beyond the pale. i'm asking you clearly, what about gavin mcginnis' positions that are so far outside the mainstream that it doesn't fall under -- >> calling an african-american monkey? that should be on the outside of a sane debate. my point is that if someone like that, andi the point that i mae in the editorial is the republican students need to bring conservative ideas onto campus. we need to know why the deregulation of wall street, we need, to have a discussion about why there should be a deregulation of environmental regulations. >> tucker: are you a conservative?
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>> i believe in real discussion. the republican students, instead of bringing that question on campus, they are bringing someone outside of the pale of any rational discussion who advocates -- calls african-americans a monkey. >> tucker: hold on, wait. i don't w want to get into a defense of a specific writer's writing. i would actually challenge you to cite chapter and verse on that. i don't believe he actually said that. if he did, obviously -- >> there is a link. i putt a link where i got the information. listen, you aree asked actually for chapter and verse to him speaking where he likens an actress to a monkey. >> tucker: there is no chance i would defend something like that. the point is i would defend the right of anybody to say something ii disagree with. and you ought to, too. especially as a college student, i think you are still a college
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student. >> i am a student and i teach. >> tucker: then you're in a world that was created specifically to protect people who have nonmainstream opinions. >> bought that space does not protect everybody. >> tucker: apparently it doesn't. it doesn't protect people you disagree with. >> doesn't protect people who kill cops? if someone wanted to go on speak on college campus -- >> tucker: that happens all the time! >> i really want to know where there is anybody -- >> tucker: have you been to a black lives matter protest? > i would never support black lives matter if they never supported police killing. that is a distortion. your lala land of college campuses doesn't exist because we have criteria. we believe for 200 years that all men are created equal. let me finish this thought!
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people who come to say at me that people aren't equal, women are inferior whenen it comes to this, blacks are inferior, muslims are inferior, people who say that go against the grain of aa lot of people who get very angry at that. >> tucker: people get angry, that's right. >> that inflames, that takes us outside of the rationalta discussion. republican students, if they want to have a discussion on campus, they should talk about something that matters. not bringing some yahoo -- >> tucker: can i ask you someone last question, we are almost out of time. if i want to know what the new rules are as crated by you, the graduate student, one of the rules. >> i don't pretend to create rules. >> tucker: at work and i go on the internet to find out what speech is protected and watch speech isn't created according to you and your friends atri and at nyu. >> i don't want to be in the position to make that, that's not what i want to do. >> tucker: then how do i know what to do? >> the demonstrators our
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response before the safety of the students on campus. when somebody comes and advocates these ideas, it can hurt people. that's what i see in my op-ed that you bring up is two weeks ago, some guy walks into a mosque, kills six people after he heard the speech of a former politician. words have an effect. right? >> tucker: if i were to go to a rally and people said i'm just pulling this out of thin air, pigs in a blanket fry like bacon about police officers, advocating the killing of cops, you would say that's on acceptable, that's not allowed. is that what you're saying? >> if student groups want to have a discussion about police brutality -- >> tucker: if they were to use that phrase, if they were to ust that phrase pigs in a blanket >> i'm not using that phrase. >> tucker: you have no principles! all of the things you've been saying for the last 11 minutes
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are untrue. thanks a lot for joining us. shut it down. wow. fox news alert. president trump has a new executive order on immigration, here's a travel ban affecting seven countries. hehe said new actions intended o affect national security can bee effective in the next coming weeks. we are joined by fox news correspondent trace gallagher. hey, trace. >> one of the 29 judges of the ninth circuit court of appeals who have not been named request that the entire court will we rehear by an -- the court is asking the justice and washington and minnesota to submit briefs by midway thursday of whether the case should be considered. they won the decision by a three-judge panel so they will argue against a new hearing. earlier, the white house said it
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will not appeal to an en banc panel or the supreme court. it was willing to come back to district court and fight it out there. then later, the white house and saying it mayons you have to decide to file an emergency appeal with the supreme court. but now if the ninth circuit is potentially offering and your opening, the white house position could change again. regardless, president trump said by monday or tuesday, he may sign a brand-new executive order on immigration that would be almost identical to the order that was just shot down by the courts. here is the president on air force one.on watch. >> it may very well be. we need speed or reason for security. it may very well be. in honor of the decision, we will perhaps do that proceed by monday or tuesday.
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>> the president's comments on board air force one came before the ninth circuit is just made this announcement. things could change. meanwhile the president and prime minister shinzo abe for a working week and am golf they heldld a joint news conference where mr. trump backed away off his campaign pledge to force japan to pay for your security. atit the time, trump accused jan of taking advantage of u.s. security and stealing american jobs. today, the president have said that the bond between the two nations and the friendship between our two peoples runs very, very deep. tucker? t >> tucker: trace gallagher. thanks a lot, but trace. up next modern college campuses hostile to a lot of people but especially hostile to the mere concept of white men. how bad are things, will talk to somebody who's literally written a book. also segregation is back in vocal, saying the left want to live with trump supporters.
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>> tucker: if you've been awake at any point of the last 50 years, you know that american colleges are pretty liberal. the past five years or so, campuses seem to been hit by a fever they haven't seen since the 19. instead of focusing on professional skills of the sweet treats of scholarship, they've made far left politics their only reason for being at school. the result is this. everybody gets a safe space except for white men, they are hated and despised. what is this about exactly? the author of the new books thaw considers it is called "nono campus for a white man" he
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joined us in the studio. the hysteria level is rising. it's not my imagination. it's not like this. what's changed? >> it's been longer than that, but it's really gravitated towardar the last five years is that identity politics and victim culture have taken over higher education. the two points isuc identity politics stress that all a person should care about is their own narrow group interest and the identity they have to ascribe to themselves. if i'm an african-american man, that's all my politics and i only care about furthering the interest of my specific group, african-americans. andic that's on their own campus because they encourage or through affirmative action and other procedures that encourages people to gravitate toward specific identities for more benefits. and then second and more important in some ways is the victimizing culture, where everybody competes to be the biggest victim. a lot of people are like, why are these young people trying to pretend they are victims? the reasone why they do that is because we assign moral status in the college moral culture
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that being creative to who's the bigger victim, whose more oppressed, who gets more status in that moral hierarchy? and if you are a privilege, that's the worst thing you can be and can happen. and say older moral culture if you are like demonically cassettes. l if you are privilege, that's the worst thing you can be. victimhood isn't assigned based on socioeconomic status. you can be the son of a poor coalminer from west virginia and you are privilege. you can be the son of a wealthy multimillionaire but african-american and you are repressed and that's how the system works. >> tucker: the first one you noted, everyone in college is privileged by definition. not working for a living. the second point is that colleges were designed to be places where people study universal truths and values rather than narrow sectarian ones.
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what brought this about? how did we get here? >> it is that it's these narrow entrances, like i write in "no campus for whitete man" ," it's about trying to get to the right views of these people. trying to do -- if you have a narrow identity politics, because that's the core being a political message on campus. everything is designed to please that type of system. when you have an english course, the fact that shakespeare and john milton are the primary writers that are studied in that course, that's a problem because they are white males. because of identity politics, people are like they are left out because i'm reading shakespeare or john milton even though they forget the universal message ofh those works and the great writing, they say, well, we need to have somebody thathi reflects this current capital culture that we have. that's why they gravitate, force these type of things on college campuses. >> tucker:hi i don't -- i don't fully understand this, the psychology behind it or where it came from, but here's what i
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know for sure. it doesn't make you happy. we have a video from yale that participated your book to write this, this is a yale professor, this is kind of what a lot of them are like. >> your position, you understand this? >> i don't agree with that. >> what the [bleep] inspired you a quick snack sits down! if that's what you thinkbeing, . it's not -- do you understand that? >> tucker: that's textbook hysteria. it's also an expression of deep unhappiness. what was that about. >> absolutely. that inspired "no campus for white man" that was needed professor defending himself surrounding and undergoing an inquisition. his wife wrote a simple column saying "look, you shouldn't get bent out of shape about cultural appropriating hollowing costumes. we know how terrible those could be. that's a real horror in our society when somebody dresses up in a halloween costume is
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considered cultural appropriation." she merely said, "look, you are college things. just let it be. don't get out of shape about it." but that was the worst thing that happened on this campus. it was like somebody wrote this horrific, racist letter to the newspaper. that's how students treated this. they took out all of their anger upon this poor professor who was actually a liberal himself, who sympathized with their cause. they wouldn't let him get his viewpoint heard. they screamedhi at him and ventd their anger. it was this ritual humiliation that he was undergoing. it was really quite shocking when it happened. that's why it caught the national eye. >> tucker: it's so bizarre, standing on this -- 60 grand a year, none of them have jobs, they are angry. "no campus for white men" is the book, scott greer is our guest. democrats have been invoking the name of caretta scott king after -- to suggest that jeff sessions
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is a bigot. mrs. king wrote a letter back in 1991 that you haven't heard a lot. a at the time, senator orrin hatch of utah was trying too refuel sanctions based on -- such a move king won'td would have a devastating impact on less skilled african-american letters. mrs. king went on to say that the presence of illegal aliens in the workplace would cause "the revival of the pre-1965 discrimination against black and brown u.s. and documented workers in favor of cheap labor." the un-document of workers. truer words were never spoken. butt somehow the democrats have no reason to read that letter. up next, but the divorce isis the secretary of education, but a mob surrounded her when she tried to visit. police are investigating a potential assault. why are they going to violence so quickly? stay tuned.
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>> you are giving money to senators and buying your way into the position! you should be so proud of yourself! go back! shame! shame! shame! shame! shame! >> tucker: wow. what's made these protesters so mad that they'll attack devos on the third day, join now by douglas harris, and economic professor at tulane university in new orleans.mi thank you for coming on. what do you? make of that? >> thank you for having me back. i think the incident today was unfortunate. i don't think it really represents most of the protests there, there's been a lot of opposition to it. but most of it has been pretty peaceful. i think it's worth thinking about where it's coming from, why the opposition has been so strong and why the senate democrats point to such lengths to try to stop s her.
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you know, my own take from it from the beginning is that it's about her ideas and the idea that a free market in the schooling is the best thing for students in the long term. that's my take. i think the reasons for it that the opposition has been strong or a lot broader than that. i think if you want to come up with the resume of things that you probably don't want to see in the secretary of education, that's what her resume looks like.es a conflict of interest, her lack of experience in schools, the comments about public schooling being being a dead end. not having the experience and who take theirs job very seriously, very passionate about their t jobs, that's one thing you can see about the last couple of weeks, to have somebody with that resume come in and be deemed the educational leader for the country, it's tough on folks. >> tucker: right. there are two passionate about
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their jobs. senate jobs is a public school. d.c., and they put it in as their primary interest rather than educatingng kids. you and i have had a fair debate, an interesting one. i agree with some other things is at about the ideas that betsy devos has about reforming, to say she doesn't care aboutus schools when she spent $20 million to be nice notni on her own kids, to other people's kids, the school that she and her husband had funded in west michigan has had great results. i think by any standards, it's worked. doesn't mean it is applicable to all schools, but it does mean that people should give her the benefit of the doubtbt personal, shouldn't they? >> i do think she cares. the reform movement goes on the same side, that people say they don't care, saying that teachers are out to keep their jobs. the teachers care about their jobs, yes, but they also care about kids. i think on the other side, i think betsy devosth cares about kids. i think she has their interest in mind. i think we just have very
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different views and what's their interest. i don't think she is look carefully at the evidence and really looks at it that way to see whether it things are working or not. she has a very strong idea of what she wants to do and she is going pursue that seemingly against the evidence. >> tucker: it seems like in a normal world, people including teachers would look at the test results in washington, d.c., which is where this happened today and say, this is so outrageous. i've got the numbers here. you are familiar with them. 12% of d.c. public school students can pass the math standards. 12%. why don't they protest against that? that is hurting people way more than betsy devos could even devise to hurt somebody. but there are no protest about that.t, why? >> i think they do oppose that. they have different ideas on what they want to do. the alternative approach here would -- and i'm not advocating this, but trying to summarize a position that they could need for early child education, we need to pay teachers higher
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salaries, more support, better buildings, some of the buildings in detroit are widely puzzled publicized to be falling apart. >> tucker: do people think that what we see in kansas city, in d.c., my daughter went to one andth they are unbelievable. they are way nicer than any private school here in their physical plan, and yet the results are spotty at best. do people with a straight face argue that it's a pure funding formula? the more money, the better results. i think there is no data to show that. >>ld well, i don't think that's what the data show either. but i think there are certainly places where money is an issue. a lot of what's going on isn't just about the schools either. we have to remember that a lot of low performance that we are seeing, a lot of that starts and exists when students start the first day of kindergarten. they are trying to catch up to that. it's not about the schools. this is why people point to early childhood education as a potential solution so that they
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are not far behind. i do t think that line, in particular, is a good idea. do i think that money alone is going to solve this problem within the existing system? know. and that's why my argument hasn't been that we shouldn't do anything differently, it's that we shouldn't go so far in the direction that she's arguing. spoon professor, thank you for joining us. .> appreciate it. >> tucker: >> tucker: -- no trump supporters allowed. what makes this kind of new segregation better than the old one? plus, a new poll of a majority of american high school students say offensive speech should not be allowed in public at all. they should be banned. children of the future. what does that say about our future? more details coming out. per roll
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read this way, alcohol, pets, are not allowed in the house. neither are trump supporters. we will not have any borg, leominster, or trump supporters. they do not ban political dissemination, but pc law does. instead of calling it what it is, housing discrimination, "the new york times" says it's an small act of defiance. part of the resistance. a demoralizing new study that a majority ofal america's young people opposed the first amendment. ang survey of 12,000 high school kids, 50% of respondents said people should not be allowed to use any offensive words in public. even larger% say that people should not be allowed to make offensive statements on social media. a blunt question. are we doomed? a founder of the knight
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foundation which commissioned the survey. think you, kevin. he joins us now. john, is there any reason not to be really bothered by this? these are one of the key things you learneded as an american tht our country is predicated among the first amendment, they don't seem to have learned that. >> first off, good evening, tucker, thank you for having me. i think there are some bright lines around them finding themselves when we find him around in the 12 years that we have been doing this survey to test the attitudes of high school students toward the first amendment support on some metrics have never been higher. 91% of students agree that people should be allowed to expressular opinions. but what you are referring to, when you start to ask them about should people should be allowed to express opinions are offensive, it starts to dip. >> tucker: it goes below 50. the majority says no. how can you be for before the first amendment if you don't think people should be allowed to say things you disagree with. >> that's a great question.
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i think one thing is that students don't truly appreciate what the first amendment is. and part of the first appointment commitment is the right not to be offended. the other aspectct is that increasingly whether it's through media segmentation, whether it's through social networks, people are self identifying into tribes, they are like minded, and they are not exposed to the opinions of others. i think that's increasing a lotk of tolerance to a viewpoint for art accustomed of encountering. >> tucker: they are kids. they are judgmental and lacking in wisdom and all the things along with health including good health and optimism. the really striking thing though is that teachers i agree with that. according to your survey and thank you again for doing the survey, almost half of teachers, adults, in charge of our kids agree that 53% agreed that you have the right to exercise their first amendment rights, but 47% said that you don't. how does that happen?
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>> you know, i adults tend to be slightly moe supportedf of first the minute issues. in this case, the discrepancy is not that much. there is always one question about whether students should be able to publish whatever they want in t the school newspaper? that's the only one where students are more supportive on first amendment rights then teachers are. ts tucker: right. >> for the most part -- that's right. generally it's pretty close, we can't just ascribe this to a younger generation of australian. this is fairly a common held view. when you dig deeper into first amendment acts, you ask questions that are about offensive free speech, support dips noticeably. >> tucker: i mean... you don't think this is a crisis? we go to work, we leave our kids in the care of adults we believe are making them better people. but it turns out that almost half of them don't even believe in the first amendment, which is a bedrock ofwh american life. it makes us different. they don't believe in that?
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shouldn't we do something about this teach d them? >> civics, education, certainly is one course. i don't think as a matter of teachers. what you find in the survey is this isn't about blue states, red states, this is 12,000 students, nearly thousand teachers surveyed across all states in the country. this is an issue that we are encountering across the board, really thinking about how we become more tolerant -- >> tucker: you know as well as i because you did the survey that support of the first amendment is a monk to higher among conservatives than liberals. >> you know... i haven't seen that. i think it's an issue that really stands to discussion, quite frankly. whether it's an incident in berkeley or peopleor upset abou: cap colin kapernick's, there is a
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lot of outrage. >> tucker: i think that's the distention. jon, thank you for joining us. >> appreciate it. >> tucker: he's got a way to improve a lot of america's poor, guaranteeing everybody a job. a government of at least $23,000 a year. could it be that easy quick snack he joins us after the break he joins us after the break. relieve heartburn with fast- acting, long-lasting gaviscon.
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>> tucker: americans possess a lot of rights. the constitution guarantees the right to free spirits, --ea is a time for yet another, the right to a job? that's what economist mark paul is arguing int a recent article for jacobin magazine. they offer a job guaranteed 23 grand a year for anyone who wants one.
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said this would permanently fix the problem of the working poor. is it madness or brilliance? professor paul joins us tonight from raleigh, north carolina. take you for coming on. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: i'm not here to attack you. there is a huge problem as we transition out of an industrial economy for what people do for a living. the first thing that bothers me aboutt your idea, though, it dos seem like giving up. it feels like admitting that people will not be integrated into what the new economy is, so let's put them on the dole and affect. is that what it is? >> absolutely not, tucker. thanks for having me on, but i have to say i couldn't disagree with you more. i believe strongly in american workers. but what i think is right now that the market is feeling far too many. right now, we have 15 million americans are unemployed and hg looking for work and can't find it. anybody that wants to work should a be able to find a job, that's what this program does. when you talk to employers, what do they want quick to make them want educated and skilled workforce. how did they build skills?
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theyug built it through working. talk to employers, one of the biggest problems they i have is they do not want to hire people that aren't unemployed let's put people to work, let's help them build skills. the best way to build these skills is on the job andis throh this type of program we could be rebuilding our infrastructure which will help private businesses exceed and expand. >> tucker: i don't think anything you said is crazy at all. again, i'm taking you seriously because i think there is a problem andk you identified it. the problem though is people will not work unless there's an incentive.n' i want. i'd sit around all day if i didn't have to work. what's the incentive for people to take these jobs? do you eliminate current welfare programs? >> no. first of all, 50 million americans, again, want to work. they are actively seeking employment. sen you tell me those 15 million americans don't want to work? i'm sorry, there are plenty of americans that want to work and can't find jobs right now. >> tucker: more do they come from? >> hold on a second there.
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there are four job openings for every ten workers seeking employment or there's not enough jobs for these workers. it's not about people not wantingou to work, it's about te marker not providing adequate employment for these workers. this program will do that. you ask me about the types of jobs. plenty of types of jobs for americans walk outside of their front door and see plenty of things that we could be investing in as a society. building schools, building roads, creating high-speed rail. right now we are living in the 20th century economy. we need to update. president trump has been continuously talking about being the a job's president. he wants to rebuild america's infrastructure. do you know what? ire t would like to, too. the program could provide the labor for that type of program. >> tucker: but you've got to get immigration under control, because $23,000 a year is higher than the per capita income of over 150 countries, including china, brazil, russia, india, mexico, which is right there. if you don't shut the borders, he would have a massive influx of people coming here to takeave manage of a guaranteed $23,000 a year, obviously feared what
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would you do about that? >> right now, we are talking about providing jobs to citizens. in some ways, there are shortcomings to that. but right now, this is a program to put americans back to work. we've seen the legislation put forth that similar to my idea by congressman m ehirs, and it applies to american citizen seeking a job. there are 15 million of them thatio would like to work, i wod like to put them to work. this could do that. when we were talking about what type ofyp jobs these are? we could be investing in human skills, too. let's talk to think about things like universal child care, let's talk about taking care of the elderly.ak there's plenty of jobs that can be done. if we can think of those jobs, that's our imagination rather than if there's not specific works. >> tucker: i tend to agree with yougr there. my last sort of skeptical instinct is i was around workers, some of them treat their jobs like a joke. go to the g dmv, that's a real thing. you know that for they don't
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take their job seriously. so why wouldn't these 50 million workers a new government jobs have then' same attitude? >> you know... i think that people genuinely want to work. there is a tremendous amount of dignity to work. these individuals have given their opportunity, i'm a firm believer that folks will want to work will do a good rk job, will be productive members of our tociety but we simply want these people to contribute to our society. they want to contribute, we want to let themci contribute. but right now they are not given their fair share at the fair shot of doing that. >> tucker: i agree with your aim. we are out off time. coming up, a powerful -- we'll share it with you next. yeah, let me check my score too. try credit karma. it's free. credit karma. give yourself some credit. that goes beyond assuming beingredients are safe...ood
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the bourgeois values that produce happy, stable societies? our friend rod dreher at the american conservative received a letter from a reader who is pondering that very thing. our conclusion? don't bet on it. her name is annie and here's part of what she wrote. "the power of the americredit society gives our untitled aristocrats who believe in the rightness of their rule through thees power of resume and collee credentialing. they can jet to southeast asia for a semester, volunteer in south america for a year, travel to turkey twice a year and everything at all about their carbon footprint, they dine out more than any generation ever has, but they vote the right way and never think about warehouses or trucking lines. they are the children of neoliberal boomers, they stand to inherit their parents and grandparents wealthta and power. they criticized the faces of the power while embracing the underlying premises. it's an enormousthink they willd accept things. i know too many of them. they are the obama bureaucrat still in their jobs, the lawyer in california mid-level
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institutions, the doctors, the foreign correspondence, they are revolutionaries, but the revolutionio strangely keeps all wealthy urbanites like themselves and their real simple lifestyles. it's a revolution forced upon the lower classes. corporations to signal their collisions. colleges are the center of this revolution for a reason.ti they give the credentials. the kids ever start rejecting the college system, then we'll know something has changed. this is the toxic rot of meritocracy. we are watching the science of the upper-middle-class and wealthy justifymi their rule to themselves and to us. through a progressive status politics that leave the poor writing onor drugs, jobless, fatherless, hopeless.ak it makes you long for aristocracy where powers of axis of birth where there were reciprocal obligations.. interesting that the gap between the rich and poor have never been greater than the global meritocracy. and there it is. and that's about it for us tonight. tune in each tonight 9:00 9:00e
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enemy against groupthink. set the dvr it if you haven't already, and watch sean hannity. he's up next. have a great weekend. >> sean: welcome to "hannity," tonight i have a message for all the liberals and the members of the media who are cheering about the ninth circuit court's decision to uphold the suspension of president trump's temporary travel ban, it's time to put petty politics aside and start caring about the safety and security of thes american people. this is a wake-up call andut that's tonight opening monologue. as of this very moment, refugees and other travelers from iraq, iran, syria, sudan, somalia, libya, and yemen are still allowed to enter thean united states blocking president trump plan for extreme vetting. our guard us down and people are
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