>> busy day, not slowing down. i'll see you at 7:00 tonight. >> bye-bye. >> jon: president trump heading to south carolina right now, trying to shift the focus on two jobs after a combative white house conference and we welcome someone who we see in the wee hours. i'm >> abby: i'm abby huntsman n for jenna lee today. >> jon: the search for a replacement for michael flynn is

still underway after president trump's first choice, harward turned it down the job. a month into his term, mr. trump unleashing on the news media, leakers, and his predecessor. >> president trump: i inherited a mess. it's a mess. at home and abroad. it's a mess. the leaks are absolutely real, the news is fake because it's so much of the news is fake. it's zero chaos. this is a fine-tuned machine. half of his job is putting out lies by the press. >> jon: this is a brand-new pole, he finds the president's job approval rating at 39%.

our fox news poll taken last weekend proves 47% disapproves. glenn hall is news editor for "the wall street journal." it would you guess that american public opinion has turned south on the president that quickly? >> i think different polls and at different times. what we've seen consistently is a sense of a divided nation, and we saw that through the election and i don't think it is changed that quickly. >> jon: what about the press conference yesterday? the president was very hard on the media, he says he's not getting a fair shake. he talked a lot about fake news. his >> the clear message there s that president donald trump was a little bit tired of having his message be filtered, he even said that. he wants to take his message out to the american people. he used that press conference to talk over the media and make the

point about the media with the media in the room. he wasn't necessarily talking to the media at selves, but to the people watching around the country. i would equate that a little with the rallies that he's scheduled to have. he wants to take his message straight to the people, get the validation directly from the crowds, rather than see the message from the media, which is going to naturally show both sides. there's going to be critics as well as those who support his actions. he equates fake news only raise the questions about whether everybody's on board of the policy. >> jon: it no president has a particularly good relationship with the press, isn't that accurate to say? >> i think that is accurate to say. i think the intention of the media to want information, to be bringing criticism, to raise points not necessarily on the agenda of the president, we cannot be completely complicit with their agenda, that's not our role.

that's just the way this country has been run, that's what we have a first amendment. >> jon: it's also true that no president comes into office enjoying the situation that he finds himself in. he recalled barack obama talking about the republicans having driving the economy into the ditch. mr. trump said many times yesterday that he inherited a mess and when you look at the polling of the country, he may have something there. back on november 8th, on election day, the clear average polling shows that 31.2% of the country thought we were on the right track, 61.9, almost 62% that it was the wrong track. move it forward to february 15th, just this week, the right direction number has improved to 34.9%. still, the majority of americans think we are heading on the

wrong direction, but there is a slight uptake and the number. >> we've seen also that uptake in the markets with opportunity on the horizon. i think the challenge and all of that, you're absolutely right, the power that propelled donald trump to the white house was the message that he brought to the parts of america that did not feel like they were participating in the recovery. that is it still going to take some time to turn around. therein lies this divide that you see, those who are in these parts of america who are strong trump supporters remain optimistic that the president will do what he said. they take all of these executive actions that he's done so far as it signals that he will follow through on those promises. at those who opposed and will continue to oppose him. >> jon: he mentioned those executive actions and other accomplishments of his administration with his

characteristic swagger, i think that's a fair term, no administration has done so much so quickly. how would you assess that? >> this has certainly been a very hectic first month, right? we have all been on our toes covering a lot of news coming out of the white house. i think he does make a good point there. he's got near the end of all the things you do unilaterally. he did hint that he's starting to look at those issues that need a big legislative solution. >> jon: like tax reform, that's the big one, right? >> that's one of the biggest ones. he is looking for that to stimulate the economy through those tax breaks and reduced tax burdens, get those jobs coming here, and eliminate the kind of disincentives to build in the united states. all of those things are critical, it will take time, congress, he said he will get started on that and the coming months. he also said repeal and replace

of the affordable care act. he's bringing in a plan next month for that one. he's moving in the right direction. >> jon: glenn hall, will let you get back to your editor's desk at "the wall street journal." thank you for spending time with us today. >> abby: all of congress is now packing their bags to head out of town for more than a week after little action on the top items on the republican agenda, like obamacare and tax reform. paul ryan insists that i replace my plan for obamacare will be ready soon, others though, are not so sure. that's where we find peter doocy live on capitol hill. it will be a very lonely capitol hill soon. >> we know that republican members have been giving talking points about obamacare repeal, that's it. no hard details about how much a replacement package might cost and no hard details about when they may be able to vote to get

rid of the affordable care act for good. but does have some lawmakers on the right getting a little restless, as they head home. president trump does it say that replacement bill will be rolled out in early march. speaker ryan, who pledged yesterday to show off the replacement bill after this recess said everything is going to the 200 day plan. if there is a delay, it's because the senate side is moving slowly. >> we have cushion and our schedule. if anything slips, it's because of senate issues. we still have time to accommodate all of this stuff. i have cushion's built in the schedule to make sure this all gets done in 2017 in case something happens and goes sideways on the senate. >> republican leaders aren't just a strain to hear from their own rank and file, across the aisle, democrats are starting to pile up the g.o.p. for taking so long to say what they were going to do.

>> they have their plan to repeal the informal care act, we haven't seen an outline to that or something like that. they haven't come to terms themselves. >> two hours from right now, the full senate is expected to vote on the nomination for scott pruitt to become the next administrator of the epa, but at least one republican senator said she will not vote yet for him. this is going to be another confirmation fight that the g.o.p. really does not have any room for error for if they want pruitt to confirm today. >> abby: will keep a close eye on that one. thank you, peter. >> jon: fox news alert and we might learn more about the pruitt confirmation process on the man who is really in charge of things in the u.s. senate, mitch mcconnell, majority leader senator from kentucky. let's listen in. >> i've been pretty candid with him and all of you that i'm not

a great fan of the tweets. what i am a fan of it is what he's actually been doing. as i look at what we might have expected from president met romney or president marco rubio our president jeb bush, at the beginning of their ten years in office, i can't see much difference between what president trump is doing and what they would have done. i think that cabinet has been truly outstanding, it's the most conservative cabinet certainly the time i've been here, and i'm certain with other republican presidents. i just mentioned getting regulations. i like what he's doing, i've not been a fan of the extra discussion that he likes to engage in, but we are going to soldier on. we like his positions and were going to pursue them as vigorously as we can.

>> reporter: considering how difficult it's been to get the cabinet confirmed, how troubled are you by the vote ahead? >> it's clear that the in the early months, is going to be republicans only exercise. we don't expect any democratic cooperation on obamacare. we don't expect any democratic cooperation on tax reform. i had just gotten here and i was still trying to figure my way around one we did tax reform the last time. very different environment, and democratic house, republican senate, republican president. a bipartisan neutrality's of the government. the leader on the democratic side of the senate was bill bradley, so clearly this is not one of those bipartisan kumbaya moments. we, as republicans, expect that both of those issues will have

to be tackled republican only. i know all of you would like for us to try to predict the outcome about one issue or another, what i can tell you, we are 100% committed, as a team, to repeal and replace obamacare and to do copperheads of tax reform. the various episodes, the chapters from the beginning to end, in my view, from my perspective, are not worth talking about, because we don't know what exactly it will look like at the end. a lot of internal discussion on tax reform already, what's the best way to get the rates down? what we have is a pretty overwhelming desire to do that. if we do that, if we change this awful health care law and if we

do the first conference of tax reform since 1986, those will be really big lists. we are committed to doing that. >> reporter: is the trump administration doing right by vice president mike pence? >> well, the president is in charge of white house staff. he made a decision on that. >> reporter: is he being treated well? is it a problem for you that he's taken a special lead? >> what mike pence has been the only sensible player. he's a huge value added for us. he's a very different kind of personality from the president, and he's in the middle of everything and it's been great. i think he's been terrific.

>> reporter: it doesn't concern you? >> and obviously concerned the president. [and distinction will question] >> if it's not one thing, it would be another. they've made it as controversial as long as possible in order to play to their left wing base, which will not accept the results of the election. pruitt was given ample time for hearings, he ended up having to get out of committee without any democrats they are, because they refused to do their job and to show up. as a committee, we had the same problem with my .

regardless of what the argument is on any given nominee, it's pretty clear what's happening. they want to move them as slowly as possible and on the ones they have deemed controversial, they want to give their left-wing agitators enough time to get up and get organized. >> reporter: are you advising to view the protesters -- >> i'm not afraid of protesters. this is an open country. people have an opportunity to express themselves, i don't go down to lafayette park every day, but i'm told someone is there protesting something on any given day. remember the famous line in

casablanca. demonstrations in america. it doesn't bother me. everybody has a right to express themselves, as long as they do it peacefully, i have no problem with it. if there is an issue that has been more discussed over the last eight years and obamacare, i have a hard time thinking of it. the issue in 2010, 2014, 2016, we've got a commitment to the american people to produce a better health care system for them. i would remind you, bill clinton said last year is the craziest thing you've ever seen, 8 out oe or substantially changed and that's what we're going to do. i don't think it suffers from any lack of discussion. i can't think of anything we've

talked about more on both sides. >> reporter: the president said yesterday -- do you believe him? >> what did you say? >> reporter: the president said yesterday that no one from his campaign is in contact with russian officials. do you believe him? >> i have no idea. >> reporter: how is the leaked situation with hillary clinton and her emails different from the pruitt situation? >> it doesn't make any difference. it doesn't matter what the current argument is, if they weren't using that one, they'd be using another one. the goal here is to feed the

base to give people the chance to get organized and complain, and they want to have pruitt out there over the recess so all of their supporters can come express themselves, which i think they have a perfect right to do. >> reporter: on your commitment on obamacare, is that to repeal and replace it by the end of the fifth session of congress? secondly, the president very openly me yesterday, what is your impression on the dreamers? >> on your first question, the timing? just as soon as we have the votes. just as soon as we have the votes. that was on obamacare, right?

on your second question, i'm very sympathetic with this situation. these are young people who were brought here at a tender age, and have grown up here are are in the process of growing up here. i'm very sympathetic to that situation. >> reporter: there's an ap report that the president is -- have you heard anything about this and what is your reaction to the deportation of forcing documented immigrants out of the country? >> i haven't heard about it, i'll take a look at anything, though. >> reporter: when you are talking about repeal and replace, i heard you say to mike that you didn't expect any democratic cooperation. how are you going to replace it?

>> we'll see. >> reporter: without any democrats? >> we had very little cooperation, maybe at some point there will be more cooperation. >> jon: a soft spoken and southern manner, mitch mcconnell, the majority leader of the u.s. senate there at his, i'm not sure it's a weekly news briefing, but a news briefing in any way. they are talking about his feelings regarding president trump, he says he likes the job that he's doing, which is he would tweet a little less. big headline seems to be his opposition to what democrats are doing in congress, specifically in the senate, slow walking the president's cabinet choices. mitch mcconnell, a little steam. >> abby: president trump lasting the media during a news conference yesterday. it does he have a point and will

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>> jon: president trump says he's asked the justice department to look into the leaks. michael flynn apparently told the fbi that he did not discuss the sanctions with the russian ambassador during a phone call before the inauguration. lying to the fbi, we should point out, as a felony. with the justice department actually prosecute him? fox news anchor and attorney, gregg jarrett. that is the biggest question right now, does a face criminal prosecution? >> if it was under oath, it was

perjury. if it not under oath, it was misleading to law enforcement. however, it depends on the nature of the conversation. did they discuss exclusively about the sanctions or was it in general to the 35 expelled diplomats? of his the latter, then it really is in the crime. if flynn interpreted it differently than the fbi, then there is no crime. if the length of the conversation is really importan important. if it was just a passing reference, then that lends credibility to flynn's claim that he doesn't recall it. >> jon: there's been a lot of talk of something called the logan act, explain what that is and would flynn have violated it here? >> the logan act says citizens cannot interfere in diplomatic disputes.

most importantly, he would argue, technically i'm a private citizen, but i was acting in the capacity of a government official. that was my intent and intent is vital in this case. it passed a ministrations have done the same thing. by the way, the logan act is nothing but an obscure jeopardy question. it's kind of a political slap in the federalist against jefferson. not a single person has been prosecuted under the logan act. primarily because everyone recognizes it is patently unconstitutional. >> jon: the president said he wants the justice department to look into these leaks. first of all, is that the best route to take and a second, will they find anything? >> he can't direct the general to do anything, it's just a referral. >> jon: he cannot? >> no, he cannot make the

general do anything. the president was right, it's a crime however lead to this. the statute is very clear, if you leak classified information to an unauthorized source, that is a felony punishable. the problem is, the source may have come, one or more of the sources may have come from the doj itself. as a holdover from the obama administration, because a reporter said officials who were in senior positions at the time of the call, that was december. you're talking about people who are serving in the obama administration. you may still be there, can the doj properly investigate itself? maybe a special prosecutor should be appointed. >> jon: let's ask scooter libby what he thinks.

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>> president trump: the press has become so dishonest that if we don't talk about it, we are doing a tremendous disservice to the american people. a tremendous disservice. where are you from? >> reporter: the bbc. >> president trump: tomorrow they will say, president trump rants and raves. i'm just telling you, your dishonest people. >> jon: just a taste there of his criticism of the media. rush limbaugh, praising mr. trump for going over the head of the media right to the american people, advancing his

domestic agenda and being totally transparent with these people. the president tweeting "thank you for all of the nice statements on the press conference yesterday. rush limbaugh said one of greatest ever. fake media not happy!" let's bring in our real media panel. author of "digging in." lynn, just about everybody in the news business has to have a thick skin, what did you think of the president's performance, his comments yesterday? >> i agree in this case with rush limbaugh. he was transparent. you saw what you saw and you don't need me in a sense to interpret your view if you thought that was a fulfilling and informative press conferenc conference. i say it this way because i don't want to use words with labels that we could then argue if i use the right word. it was what it was.

>> jon: i suppose, jay, it depends on what side you voted for any election. at your of donald trump determines how you feel about what he had to say. >> that was exactly right. it was pure trump, or impure trump, if you like. he was exactly himself. if you like that, you loved it, if you don't like that, you didn't love it. trump is a performer, he loves television, has been on television most of his life, and now he has the biggest stage, the biggest platform and all the world, i guess. the queen of england doesn't say much. i think he's enjoying it. it seems,

>> jon: it seems that he labels any story he doesn't like as fake news. >> a serious question about the rise of anti-semitism in the united states was asked by a reporter by an outlet that focuses on news of interest to the jewish community. i don't know why the president answered this way, but i do know that he was looking for a friendly question and the question or preface this by saying i know you're not anti-semitic. trump said, it's not a fair question, he told him to sit down, and he basically said that he lied and was going to ask a different kind of question when he didn't. sometimes in the context of all this talk, when there is a chance to straighten the record out on that one, i think that's an important thing for the white house to do. >> jon: it's a very polarized

country right now, jay. when the president gets up there and it dismisses certain news outlets or reporters as purveyors of a fake news, his most ardent supporters truly appreciate that, don't they? >> oh, yes, his fans eat it up. there are other people, too. it's a big country. i think we are pretty much split, trump won the electoral college and hillary won the popular vote. i think you love a robust and aggressive press when it's going after a leader you don't like so much. what i'm saying robust or aggressive press, when they go after someone you like, you don't like that so much. i think that is a point that trump as president now, and to the press is doing its job, and

you don't like the news, you tend to label it fake. when you do like it, it's okay and legitimate. >> jon: it will be fascinating to see whether this type of press conference continues over the next four years or whether it moderates some. we are also watching on the left box, we are watching for president trump to appear at that bowling factory in south carolina. thank you both. >> abby: they are bracing for more storms in northern california which could mean more problems at lake oro though, threaten catastrophic flooding this week. more than 200,000 people evacuated before that takes place. fox news' research department tweeting out some interesting data about aging bridges, dams, highways, and even nuclear

reactors. we already spend more than $400 billion a year on this and president trump has promised a major push to modernize our infrastructure. let's bring in our panel. welcome to both of you, thanks for being here. barry, i'll start with you. we talk about our infrastructure, whether you are republican or democrat, this is something that everyone wants to improve. this is something that has been a problem for decades, not just the last month saying we have to improve this. why has it been so slow in washington? >> there's two reasons. first of all, we have lacked the political will and the political leadership to take hold of this enormous problem which really covers global issues, national security issues, economic issues, local regional issues, and the whole subject of how we

fund infrastructure investment. the people who should be taking leadership roles on this, you find out that the problem is just too enormous for them to get their arms around and to focus on. so it gets passed on to the next level of congressmen and presidents. >> abby: that's really sad. you look at some of these stats that our research department dug up on this, it shows the average age for example, 600,000 plus of our bridges, 42 years old. you've seen this firsthand in what you do. what concerns you the most? >> the biggest concerns that i have, the president is looking at about a $1 trillion infrastructure plan. it's about $4 trillion if we do nothing. what we are looking at is working with the administration and providing some efficiency models that we can start layering infrastructure. what we've been doing lately is

not only patchwork on our roads, but patchwork on our infrastructure. we don't need anymore band-aids this problem. this is an opportunity for us to not only fix our infrastructure and create levels of efficiency by doing infrastructure as well as water and utilities, at the same time, but also, putting middle-class people back to work. we want to have that partnership with the administration and congress, and we think if we don't, that for trillion dollar cost, obviously you're seeing it today with the dams and bridges we are dealing with on a daily basis. >> abby: the cost might look huge now, but the long-term benefits of fixing our infrastructure, that could be huge. >> we have never in the nation's history ever ever failed to see a massive return on investment in infrastructure. it has been the backbone when they did the erie canal, it was the backbone we have a transcontinental railroad, the hoover dam. what we need to understand is

running the right program, finding the right financing, and spending this money is a long-term investment for our nation that returns and returns and returns again and again. >> abby: how do we pay for this? that is the big question. if you are up on the hill, how'd we get the money for this? >> i've spoken to many of the people involved in infrastructure, and transportation, and everybody agrees, the money is there. it has lacked the leadership of someone to start the process to make it not just a state-by-state, locality by locality basis, but a regional and a national situation. >> abby: mirror, quickly last word here. >> that's why we're working with a tri-state alliance to come up with a plan to help out. the reality is that we do have the money, but the money is being utilized right now on a system that was built 60 years

ago and we're still patch working a 60-year-old system. most of the younger generation does not use this system and are looking for a more modern updated system. those across the globe are starting to beat us out at more developed transportation system systems. >> abby: we can't come together on this, i'm not sure what we can get done in washington. thanks for being with us, we appreciate it. >> jon: an illegal immigrant set to be deported seeking sanctuary in a colorado church. ? ? ready, go. ahhhhhhhh! shake! shake! shake! shake! shake! done! you gotta shake it! i shake it! glad i had a v8. the original way to fuel your day.

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teachers, parents, and administrators take matters into their own hands. >> taking matters into their own hands in the form of taking a single piece of literature that has gotten a lot of people talking. we are going to show it to you now up on the screen. it's called "no you're right." it's being distributed through the second largest teachers union in the country. on it, there are bits of advice for immigrant families, like don't open your doors if ice comes knocking, because federal agents cannot force their way inside, unless they have a warrant or you invite them in. some public school teachers and austin started sending this information home with a certain students, because they say the material is to simply help educate immigrant families on their legal rights and it to help quell fears over the

uncertainty of president trump's immigration plan and executive action. >> this is about information that our families can read. our students are scared, terrified to come to school. our families are scared to send their kids to school. at the least we can do is assure them of accurate and reliable information, facts of what to do if i.c.e. comes to their door. >> not so fast, as news of this started to spread, the austin school district stepped in and issued a memo to its staff saying it's against policy to hand out anything that advocates acting unlawfully or if stuff is handed out, it has to be nonpartisan. much of this, as you know, has been in response to the recent i.c.e. raids that have grabbed national headlines across the country. fox news has reached out to immigration and customs enforcement for comment and got this statement. it reads in part "i.c.e. will

continue to do its job within the legal framework provided by the law, the i.c.e. focuses on, effective, law enforcement that focuses on threats to national security, public safety, and border security." whether or not a public school or teacher can disseminate this to students is in dispute and austin. swing >> abby: there are sinks y cities and sanctuary church is under dispute whether it's protected under the amendment

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>> jon: let's find out what's ahead on "outnumbered" ." >> president trump said to meet with the ceo of boeing in south carolina. we look at all the fallout of that press conference after mr. trump did not hold back after what he feels is dishonest treatment by the. >> meghan: russia with highly provocative moves recently. president trump says put in is not testing him. is he right? who better to ask then our one lucky guy, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n., john bolton is here it will join us and just moments. "outnumbered," top of the hour. >> jon: see you then. >> abby: an illegal immigrant is fighting deportation by seeking sanctuary in a colorado church. immigration authorities denying her request to remain in the

u.s. immigration officials, they say that she has two misdemeanor convictions and has got to go. good morning to both of you, thanks for being here. this is heartbreaking. anyone who reads the story, no one wants their mother to have to leave their children and certainly not the only case like this. you look at what president trump is trying to do, restore law and order in this country. where does he draw the line? >> i think that's an important point that you make. it's a sad story if you look at her story, but if you look at the individual stories of many people who are no rights have the law, a lot of them will draw out sympathy. this is a nation of law, it's a nation of immigrants, no doubt, but it's a nation of law as wel well. the fact that we are a nation of law, that attracts so many immigrants. in fact, this particular lady came to the u.s. after she was a victim of a crime. it now she's here, and i think

that she would agree more than anyone, i can speak for her, but i imagine she would agree that because we are a nation of law, it makes it an attractive place. >> abby: ashley, this woman told her children, i have to leave. i'm going to a church and her young daughter said at least to be safe in a church. is there something to a century church? which should be safer there instead of going to a grocery store somewhere else? where does this go from here? >> that's a really good question. what she is seeking is freedom of religion. i don't think she's going to find much protection with the law and the argument, though. the church has to balance against the compelling state interest. in this case, we have a compelling state interest and enforcing our immigration policy. i think the only way that she will have this safe refuge and actually find sanctuary in a

church as if our policy, our government policy, says that we are not going to enter these churches. we are not going to use these churches and go into them and actually remove people. we are going to let people find sanctuary. i think we need to government policy for that. our constitution will not protect people seeking refuge in these churches. >> abby: it is and clearly hard-working story, but she's got two misdemeanors, right? also she used a fake social security number to get a job. her case, as we've been talking about it, certainly not the first, it will not be the last. how do we deal with this? there will be so many more that will go to court, right? >> yeah, i think that's exactly right. she's a spot on when she said our government interests enforcing the immigration laws out ways of protecting the sanctity the church. a true on an embassy, it's not sovereign ground. if they were, we have all sorts

of people piling into churches. there are all types of churches with all different beliefs who may or may not agree with u.s. policy on any particular issue. we simply cannot be a nation of laws if any person who disagrees with the law can violate it, find a church whose doctrine may agree with their violation of that law, and in fact get sanctuary there. it would be anarchy. no matter how politically charged the immigration debate is, it's an unfathomable disposition. >> abby: certainly not the end of this debate. great to have you both here. we are waiting remarks from president trump at the boeing plant in south carolina. we will be back right after this right for you. ibgard calms the angry gut. available in the digestive aisle at cvs, walgreens and riteaid.

>> jon: awaiting president trump's remarks at the boeing plant in south carolina. less than an hour flight from d.c. to charleston. of he ought to be there any minute and we will have those

remarks before you live when he steps up to the microphone. in the meantime, we will see you back here in an hour. >> meghan: fox news alert, mr. trump will address the media after his contentious news conference after four weeks in office, calling it an "fine tuned machine." this is outnumbered. i meghan mccain. here today, sandra smith, harris faulkner, fox news contributor, lisa boothe and today's one lucky guy, john bolton. you are outnumbered, thanks for coming today. >> harris: you are cooler than the other side of the pillow. >> john: will see how long that lasts. >> meghan: let's jump right into it. a president um