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>> the mainstream media was defensive and dismissive. t >> i don't think he's mad at the media.a. >> you don't? >> i think he's mad at not being boss any more. >> he's entertaining. i fear a lot of americans are addicted to him. i fear we in the media and i don't exclude myself are getting addicted to writing about him, it's so easy to do. he has his entertainment value. >> well, the media and other elites hyperventilated, supporters of president trump couldn't have been happier. >> this is one of the most effective press conferences i've ever seen. the press is going to hate him even more, don't misunderstand, i talk about rallying people who voted for him to stay with him. >> joining with us reaction from washington, ashleigh pratt, ait conservative commentator and u.s. news and world report contributor. here in the studio, radio talk show host mike gallagher. mike, remember during the campaign when everyone says,

let trump be trump, and they kind of let him do his thing. he ended up winning, that was the trump that won. that's what we saw yesterday, the campaigner trump. u the media has come out and said. this is not an effective donald trump. that was a trump that won. so i still think the media is missing the boat on this guy. >> everything that got donald trump elected was on display yesterday. and if any of these elitistsf think that average, hard-working, normal americans give a rat's rear end about the media being tweaked by president trump, they ought to take a long hard look in the mirror and realize they're pitifully and wildly out of touch with reality. reality is that's the president trump that voters and americans expect. the best is yet to come. he has had a really good month. >> you think he is going to get even more and to antagonistic

towards thet press? >> we're in for a ride. >> jesse: looks like we are. he tweeted out something i want to show the audience, we have it up for you, he says, "the fake news media, failing 'new york times,' nbc news, abce cbs, cnn is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the american people."he so ashleigh, looks like he's trying to align himself with the american people. and really drive a wedge between the press and the rest of the country. he pretty much did that the other day during the press conference. do you agree with that or not? >> the press which has a job to report, it is their responsibility to report, to get news to the american people. and, look, i believe the mainstream media, i as a conservative for many years have been critical of them, and they deserve that criticism. at the same time, it is their duty to report the news. and the decorum the other day was lacking. he is no longer a candidate, he is the president of the united states and he needs to act like that. the journalists were doing their job and asking questions. it wasn't combative until he

made it one.il that is problematic. no, no, no, let me finish. thomas jefferson, who is by all means regarded by the conservative movement, who has said our greatest liberty is the freedom of the press. and that liberty could diety without it. i think we should heed the wise words of one of ournk nation's founders. don't you think? >> jesse: the only thing would i say is, the american people did not elect thomas jefferson. they wanted to elect a guy all about decorum they would have elected mitt romney. >> the majority of americans also didn't vote for him as well. we have to realize that. >> ashleigh, let mike get in here. >> the problem, ashleigh, i don't mean it personal, are you're a never-trumper. >> i was and he can prove me wrong, but he needs to be held accountable. >> at the end of the day, you guys who were opposed to donald trump are still anguished

that he won. >> no, no! >> to a person, self-described conservatives or republicans critical of yesterday's epic press conference are never-trumpers. you have been continually against him.u you want him to fail. >> jesse: let her finish. ashleigh, do you agree with the point that maybe you have not yet accepted the fact that donald trump, this donald trump is president. and this is the way he's going to behave toward the press for the next four years, at least. eventually we will have to get used to this. right? le look, obama won, i was not thrilled about that, but guess what. you can complain all you want, you can disagree with policy and we did when conservatives were shut out or mocked during press conferences by josh earnest. but we can't be hypocritical and doing the same thing here. calling out cnn as fake news, say you're this, you're that, is just absolutely absurd. because when obama did it conservatives railed against him, i was one of them, to stand there and say this is okay is absolutely ridiculous.s.in let me finish one more thing.

as a never-trumper, yes, i was conservative and concerned because of the fact that he said many concerning things. yes, he got great talking points. and you know, i'm glad he won.in because he proved me wrong. but at the end of the day, he has a chance to prove me wrong again by being a good president. but what he did the other day t was very, very unpresidential. >> the thing i would say, ashleigh, comparing president obama to president trump, with the way he treats the press. >> which we were all upset with. >> jesse: fox news was reporting fake news stories, then president obama would be withine everyone of his rights to call it like he sees it. if we did. >> when he called out fox for asking questions we were outraged. >> i believe a lot of the other mainstream media are reporting fake news stories, whether it's the mlk bust, whether it's the dossier that russia allegedly had on him, whether it's thisis new thing where the intelligence apparatus is not telling him certain intelligence.

withholding that. >> what about with his own administration, people leaking information. they're running stories -- >> come on, let mike finish. >> this week, the president had an historic visit with the prime minister of israel. they covered -- the mainstream media that you are defending, ashleigh, spent more timeha worrying about what he tweeted about ivanka's clothing line than that. how about the story reported that there was no collusion between the trump campaign and the russians, a little blurb, they're worried how he words a tweet. ashleigh, you've been on the wrong side of it from day one, you're still on the wrong side, you're in a bad place. >> i'm not bitter about it. i admitted that i was wrong. but at the same time -- >> you look beautiful, ashleigh, but we have to go to break. and we appreciate you taking the time. we'll have to get used to it. up next. trump's crackdown on illegal immigration sparks furious backlash from immigration groups. the latest on that moments away.

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mainstream media. earlier today the associated press reported that the trump administration was considering mobilizing the national guard to round up illegal immigrants in >> jesse: "impact segment," fake news and the mainstream media. earlier today, the associated 1 press reported that the trump administration was considering mobilizing the national guard to round up illegal immigrants in many states. the white house fiercely denied the report stating it was 100% not true. and came from an early draft memo no one ever seriously considered.re despite that, immigration activists are reacting, claiming illegal immigrants withoutig criminal records are being targeted.hoec joining us now with reaction from washington, mark krekorian from the center for immigration studies and, from salt lake city, ali norani, author of

the upcoming book "there goes the neighborhood." was this another case of fake news, mark? on the surface, it looks like the a.p. comes out with a splashy headline, then the white house press secretary denies it. is there any truth to this, mobilizing the national guard to undertake raids? >> no. this was, as i understand it, it was a discussion memo at the staff level offering possibilities. a it didn't even mention raids. what it was, was suggesting the possibility of giving an existing law enforcement authority, 287-g authority, to national guard that were interested in it, statesrd interested. that wasn't even seriously considered, it was just thrown out. >> jesse: the national guard could be deputized to undertake some sort of, not raid, but assistance with local law enforcement? >> exactly, the kind of stuff

cops in all jurisdictions do now. and to emphasize, this was just a staff discussion paper, not anything that was considered at the white house level. it's the a.p. that turned it into fake news. this really, there's a word for, fake news is a new term. the old term was yelloww journalism. this was yellow journalism. >> jesse: ali, there's a saying elections have consequences. president trump when he was a candidate ran on a deportation force of some sort. a we all know he wants to go after the bad hombres. i don't think there's anythingad wrong with that. but if donald trump does startng deporting people who crossed the border illegally but have not committed any other crime since then, is that a huge problem? >> well, i think what we saw in this draft memo that was leaked today and reported on by the associated press, it's a summation of the trump administration's executive orders over the last month. this lays out how they may wanti to implement the three executive orders, the border wall, interior enforcement, or travel

ban. massive increase in border patrol, the massive expansion of authoritiesio. this was a campaign promise for deportation force, the removal of 11 million people. and spending tens of billions of dollars. i think the backlash will be severe, the majority of americans do not want to see our country go, have the national guard going door-to-door. and even half the trump primary voters are opposed to then immigration force. >> jesse: let me ask you this. mark, if trump does the border wall and he does the sanctuary city defunding and goes after the bad hombres, the criminals and the cartel guys and felons and gets them out of there, but does not go after regular people that cross the border illegally or overstay their visas but haven't committed a crime since.

is the base going to get extremely angry with that? yes or no? >> no, i don't think so. because the key issue here is not whether, under this return to normal immigration enforcement, they're goingrm knocking people's doors down ann say, where's your green card? what happened under obama, they also went after the bad hombres. but they said in writing that regular illegal immigrants are immune from law enforcement.n they will not have to face the consequences of their actions. what we're seeing now is a return to normal preobama law enforcement where the priority is the worst acters. but regular folks don't have a path if they're illegal immigrants. the analogy under obama was like the irs saying we're going to target money launderers and cartel people, job one for us. but if you're a regular person who chooses not pay your taxes, we're going to ignore you..

that's what obama said. that's what has changed now.. we've gone back to normal enforcement. >> jesse: and normal enforcement is enforcing the law of theen land, ali.is if someone isn't paying taxes i or someone is living in a trap house, or someone is just drinking and driving, moving violations, get caught up with some small beef like that, they have to face the consequences. that's not draconian, right?he >> we are completely in support of smart law endorsement, smart prioritization of valuable resources. those valuable law enforcement resources should be focusing on, quote, the bad hombres. we are completely in support of that. that second executive order expanded the enforcement priorities. when mark is saying, return to normal enforcement, you're saying that that second enforcement order leads to massive deportation up to 8 million people. >> jesse: they have normalized

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>> jesse: in the unresolved >> jesse: in the "unresolved segment," media claims chaos in the white house. president trump hit back hard against the relentless media negativity during his press conference yesterday. >> i turn on the tv, open the newspapers, and i see stories of chaos. chaos. yet it is the exact opposite. this administration is running like a fine-tuned machine.

>> jesse: now from charlottesville with reaction, the head of the university of virginia center for politics. author of the book "feeding frenzy, attack journalism and american politics."." and from south hampton,rt former "new york times" reporter and fox news contributor, judy miller. so judy let's start with you, ladies first. i'll start with you first. a fine-tuned machine, what did he say, do you agree with that? what's your opinion? >> well, i don't know, maybe tricycle without the back wheels? >> jesse: ouch., >> look, it was trump unplugged. if you like donald trump, you thought it was great to have the guy that you missed from the campaign back again. and if you are a member of the press corps who is supposed to be skeptical or just the kind of person who is always skeptical of donald trump you would say whoa, what is going on here? this is just insane. and the reporters that i talked to could not believe that what they were watching and

witnessing. it did go on for 76 minutes. >> jesse: the reporters couldn'r believe what they watched on election night either so they don't have the best judgment. >> true. >> jesse: larry, to be fair, judy said it was like a tricycle with the wheels falling off. the guy has done a lot so far.al in terms of deregulation, the mining announcement, he's staffing up the cabinet, got a supreme court deal done, sanctions on iran, the border wall is being expedited, pipelines are being expedited, hiring freeze on the federal level. b they've had jobs being saved, companies are staying here, the stock market is ripping. it's not like he's just flailing. maybe these stories that i just mentioned are being underreported. >> jesse, that is all boring policy stuff.. you know that. [laughter] no, obviously it's important stuff.au

that's why you shouldn't reach any judgment 29 days into a presidency. we're not even one-third of the way through the artificial and i think entirely ridiculous first 100 days.. a lot of conclusions go of the the window as time goes on.. a lot has been accomplished. were there things they would have done differently, they've already said they would have a different rollout for the executive order on immigration.y i don't think they would have had general flynn call the russian ambassador. there are other things they would do differently. >> jesse: the flynn deal and the judge robart and ninth circuit slowed down his momentum. it's outside of his hands but you have to say it did slow down the momentum. but he changed the narrative. judy, if you look at the first 100 days of, let's say, bill clinton, you had waco. kind of a big problem, waco, texas, a lot of innocent people died, up in flames.

president obama, first 100 days, you had the aig bonus scandal when they bailed this company out after they tanked the economy, then all of these fat cat executives got big bonuses from main streetet taxpayers. to have a flynn situation pop up, yeah, maybe that's kind of a big deal. but i think in the grand scheme of things, you look back at history, maybe not that huge. >> well, jesse, the difference is that the other things that happened on to other presidents tended to be things external to your own white house. here you have a problem, a set of problems, that seem to be related to the white house's inability to kind of function effectively. when you have a general flynn who is not telling the vice president of the country the truth about what he said tot something -- a terrorist attack outside or -- that is something internal. >> jesse: true, and he set

himself up for that.ru but at the same time, he's being set up by leaks from federal law enforcement officials, the president, former president set up a few land mines.s. how did these conversations get public? conversations between the prime minister of australia and mexico, how did they become public? the president right now is dealing with forces beyond his control too. he is fighting an enemy from within. to be fair, larry, he is fighting a multi-front war. >> of course, most presidents fight multi-front wars. different fronts.mu look two points are central. absolutely central, jesse. the first is, this is not a normal president. we know that. he wasn't a normal candidate. get used to it. we got 47 more months to go. and the other is, he has made a decision, whether it's overt or not, to go for his 46%, to keep them attached, to keep them energized. and people outside the 46% are

going to have to get used to that too.pl >> jesse: if he keeps michigan,, pennsylvania, and ohio, i think it's a wrap. guys, thank you very much. >> and wisconsin. >> jesse: i appreciate it. we can afford to lose that one. big pro-muslim rally in weekend in time square. one of the men behind it joins us. ce. yeah, let me check my score too. try credit karma. it's free. credit karma. give yourself some credit. or is it your allergy pills? holding you back

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>> personal >> jesse: "personal story" segment, the fight against islamic extremism. yesterday, president trump promised to press ahead with the travel ban against seven muslim majority countries.mp >> let me tell you about the travel ban. we had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. but we had a bad court, a badsm decision. a court that's been overturned, again, i may be wrong, but i think 80% of the time. a lot. we had a bad decision. we'll keep going with that decision, put in a new executive order next week sometime. time. w but we had a bad decision. >> jesse: while the white house prepares its revised executive order, this sunday, a pro-muslim rally called "i am a muslim too" will be held in manhattan's time square. joining us now is a co-host of the rally. i have a question. why are muslims protesting against a terror travel ban but never against a terror attack?

>> i think that's not true. muslims have protested terrorism attacks. >> jesse: i haven't seen a lot of protests. here in america at least. >> you need to do your job. ask professor google. >> jesse: not many examples of that. but go ahead. >> i think rally is not about muslims only. we are concerned about america. i'm an immigrant. and oftentimes i go back to my original country, indonesia, people ask me this question, how muslims are being treated in america. after september 11, we had president bush, islam is peaceful. the president, the current president says islamism is a problem. >> jesse: you have to admit, there is a muslim problem in the world. a majority of the terrorist attacks are perpetrated by muslims, you have to admit thatt >> i think it is not true. >> jesse: tell me why. >> if you study the history of

terrorism worldwide, i think you have to admit there are bad people in each community. within the christian community, who basically are -- in bosnia. i don't want to blame that particular community.nd >> jesse: but the majority of terrorist attacks have been perpetrated by muslims, not christians. not hindus. not athiests. >> is there a reason you have to ban muslims coming to the temporary? >> jesse: not a ban, ain tempory pause. >> whatever it is, that particular group of people on the basis of religion, it is discriminatory policy. islamophobia, for me, is an american problem. we muslims want to help. >> jesse: what i would say is this temporary travel ban, not a muslim ban, the travel ban, is compassionate.

it's not discriminatory. because you are protecting all americans, muslims included, from muslim extremist attacks. and that is a good thing. and that is compassionate.. >> there is no doubt that muslims share with all americans, our security first. the thing you have to take into consideration, one of the things that white america is so beloved to many, that's why many come here, because of the values that we uphold. and we are proud of. it is about compassion, it is about business embracing everyone else. embracing immigrants. but having banning certain people on the basis of certain things might be considered illegal, it might be considered unconstitutional. >> jesse: they're banned because they're from terrorist nations. >> not necessarily. >> jesse: it's not a muslim ban. >> why saudi arabia isn't banned? most of those in the september 11 attack are from saudi arabia. why are they not included? >> jesse: i think they have a better relationship and betternc

vetting process.ha >> there must be some -- >> jesse: so it's not a muslim ban, there you go.e you just made my point. >> i have to mention our former mayor, guiliani, who said donald trump tried to find something to legalize this muslim banning. the former mayor mentioned that. in his interviews. you have to acknowledge there's an existence about targeting muslims. >> jesse: nobody wants anyone targeted and we don't want americans targeted by muslim extremists.ge i think we can all agree with that. thank you very much. next up on the special edition of "the factor," the head of the naacp slams president trump on race. will they ever come to an understanding? up ahead what do you get when you combine an h&r block tax pro, with the deduction finding superpower of ibm watson?

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african-american community, he says we come in too tight, -- two types, entertainers and athletes. he practices a stereotype by omission, not meeting with political leaders, not meeting with the leaders of organizations. his interaction with april ryan is a metaphor for his views on race, which are somewhere between cro-magnon and neanderthal. >> jesse: referring to a meeting yesterday when he asked april ryan if she could help him set up a meeting with the congressional black caucus. joining us with reaction, omara, president emeritus of the youngs democrats of america, and niger ennis, national chairman of the congress for racial equity. let's just say that evangelical leader, when presidentha obama

took office in 2008, started off the relationship by calling thee newly elected president a neanderthal, do you think that'a a smart way to begin the relationship? >> [laughs] i probably would not have used those words. >> jesse: smart. >> i would not have used those words, but i do understand the sentiment. this is a guy where nowhere in his professional career has shown any interest specifically and sincerely improving the lives of african-americans, whether it was the fact that his career started out with housing discriminate discrimination, african-americans who couldn't rent and hisou high-rises, or a full page ad, the new york paper, calling for the death of five young black mened who were wrongly accused and railroaded by the police. exonerated, and donald trump has been defiant and never apologized. >> jesse: are you accusing the president of being a racist??

>> i think his behavior can be very racially insensitive to the point where people will question, are you a racist. cornel took it a step further than i would have taken it. >> jesse: niger, you understand president trump. is there anything in his background which would lead you to believe that this man is racially insensitive? because i haven't seen it. i know a lot of people who know donald trump for a long time, new york guy, you know, in and out of tons of different circles. pictures of him with sharpton, with jesse jackson, everybody, don king.g. this is not a guy who doesn't like african-americans. k niger? >> to be frank, jesse, i think what is more important than even that question, i don't know donald trump personally. i've met him on a few occasions, talked with him. and, no, he does not seem to be a racist to me at all. he is not a racist. i don't want to go down that rabbit hole. what is much more relevant and important, what is the president

of the united states going to do and what is his administrationte and those that are working with him in the various agencies and departments going to do to african-americans and people in our -- in the cities. i have a great deal of confidence that the president has a great plan, and that he's got most of the people in place that he's going to need to execute the plan. i think getting down a rabbit hole of racism, and, listen, cornel from the naacp, you know, he's doing his thing, doing a thing. i gave him i wantan to engage i. -- a game i don't want to engage in. >> jesse: you have ben carson at housing and urban development,

and donald trump more than any republican in the last couple of terms has said, i really want to fix the inner cities. it's a disaster. i'd like to do it. do you have a problem with the african-american leaders, to try and help boost jobs and better their education and help clean up the drugs?? j >> well, if he's sincere about it, absolutely. as you saw yesterday, in the press conference with april ryan, he hadn't even bothered to reach out. as the cbc tweeted out, we sent you a letter january 19 to have a meeting to which you have notn responded. >> jesse: can i stop you for a second? i remember during the transition when president-elect trump was meeting with a handful of black americans. he was meeting with steve harvey, kanye, the son of martin luther king. >> that's totally fine if you meet with celebrities. >> jesse: martin luther king is -- son of martin luther king is aes celebrity? >> martin luther king jr. goes after his father's celebrity. he does a lot ofg work. >> jesse: he cannot win then. he can only meet with certain black americans?

>> i am saying the congressional black caucus that specifically works on african-american policy, especially concerning hbcus, that's when they definitely can have aha conversation. it's very hard, it's very hard to have a longer conversation about criminal justice reform, that's a perfect example where he can address racial disparity. >> jesse: i find it to be insincere. you have leaders in the congressional black caucus saying he's not a legitimatete president, not my president. then you have other black americans on cnn the other day, mark lamont hill, saying only mediocre negros are meeting with the president. it's a smear campaign. >> okay, what mark lamont hill -- >> jesse: the president can meet with whoever he wants and will be a meeting with the cbc. >> he can absolutely meet with whoever he wants. >> jesse: it will be a great meeting. and i'm sure everybody will get along. niger, we have to pay the bills. thank you very much. directly ahead, the washington

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♪ >> jesse: religious freedom and same-sex marriage. yesterday washington state supreme court struck a blow to stuntsman, a florist who refused to provide services to a gay wedding. she claimed it would have violated her religious beliefs but the state said she violated anti-discrimination laws. statsman planning to appeal to the supreme court. potentially setting up a major showdown.

joining us from atlanta, a democratic strategist and lgbt activist. and director of affairs for american family association. robin, start with you. i'll play devil's advocate. if a christian baker refuses to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple, that's discriminatory to many people. but if a designer refuses to dress melania trump because of political beliefs, isn't that also discriminatory? what's the difference? >> now, i see your point. i see it your spin, however -- >> jesse: it's not spin, it's a serious question. >> there's a sign that says open for business.si it's open for business to thene public, to all of the public.. now, ivanka -- melania trump was trying to get a especially commissioned gown. that's a special commission. now, if the florist wanted to just do specially commissioned flowers for people, she could do that. but she's open for business to

the general public. she cannot discriminate against people based on their religion. washington state protects against discrimination from lgbt and familial status. so you can't go down this road. it's a slippery slope. >> jesse: i understand. i understand it's a slippery slope. sandy, let me hit you with somethihng. if you're a christian baker, and you believe that it's a sin, gay marriage, and gay weddings, and you don't want to align yourself with that, does that mean that every customer that comes in that wants a cakthat may be a liar or may be a adulterer, cheater, a thief. do you have to look into their sin history to fire up the oven? >> the answer is, you have noo customers and you yourself could never bake a cake or do floral. >> jesse: we're all sinners. >> yes, we all have stuff.

it's not a litmus test for someone's moral purity.e the point is she's being forced to embrace and endorse and give her artistry to something thatt she feels violates her religious faith. i have to say, probably because we live in such a culture that's so removed from our morals, people don't understand that the whole union between one man and one woman started in the history of the god of our fathers, in this country, the history of creation. males and females. and the union of man and woman is sacred. so what we're asking her to do is not embrace people. she's done flower arrangements for this couple before, she knows them, they've been friends for years, she was set up with this. it's just that, because she's a christian, she cannot lend her artistry to something she feels is an immoral union that breaches her conscience. >> jesse: i did not know baking was art. that is great. i love that.s

i'm an artist.ak when i bake cookies, that means i'm an artist. it's the only art that i participate in. guys, we have to run, we have to run. we'll do art later and fire upo the oven. all right? next on "the rundown," former nfl player tells bill o'reilly why pro athletes should speak of -- speak out about politics. do not miss it. and bruising.

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>> jesse: politics and him >> politics and prose sport. athletes like: pepper --k after arguing that it is not a bad thing. >> i've always been an advocate for players to speak out on social and political issues. people that arel role models.

if you look at it, a lot of these athletes have grown up in these types of neighborhoods where, you know, they've come from the bottom. they relate more to the average person. yesterday, he entered into the no spin zone to make his case to bill o'reilly. >> my beef with athletes and movie stars, too, getting involved with politics is that there should be a baseline of information that they should know about what they are talking. do you agre.e with that? >> i agree. i think they should take the onus of themselves to educate themselves and understand the topics with that type of information. at the same time, you've got to be able to be honest in what you are saying and you have to be truthful. one: temperament is the best example. we want to talk to him here. he wouldn't do it. i thought that was foolish. not because he was in here, but he didn't know any on any on the big

joe's. he didn't go out yet he, he was respectful. to the vets, to the fly, everything else. don't you think he had a responsibility to back up his kneeling down? >> i don't think he was necessarily disrespectful or at least intentionally disrespectful. >> okay. but you know othershe disagree with you, dante? >> yet. > you must respect their disagreements. if he's going to do it, put himself in the arena like that, don't you think's obligation is to explain it the best he can? >> i think he did that. initially when he tried to make a silent protest and then it was figured out later on after in the postgame conference it figured out that, hey, colin wasn't standing up for the national anthem. he went on to talk about a lot of the disparities that minorities and african-americans faced throughout this country, and he cited some of the doj's investigations on a number of figures across the country.

it would be good. i'd like for him to come out and expend a little bit more. >> he has an obligation, all right, to do that because he is influencing youngnc people. youpe know, people who look up o a call in kaepernick. it's like the six new england patriots who won't go to the white house, they had been invited to celebrate their super bowl win. they are entitled to that. i want to know why. you aren't really going to endorse donald trump. youp are going to the nation's capital, the white house, the people's house. you are an american. this is the people's house. you don't want to show up? why? >> i agree with whatever they want to do. in 2011, 2012, the hockey goalie for the boston bruins decided not to go because he b said that he didn't -- >> he didn't vote for president obama. >> he said that the federal government was stripping the americanan people of their

liberties, their property, things of that nature. >> correct me if i'm wrong -- thomas was that the bruins of austria's goalie -- >> he didn't talk anymore after that. >> he should've done the same thing. if yougo are going to be fair, e said publicly -- i'm more interested in the kids than anyone else. withes respect, you are a great football player. anybody says donte stallworth -- i'm voting for who he is votingy for? but if you're an adult, come on. for kids to hear this stuff, and i think that these athletes, celebrities always to the kids to explain it his best he can. last word. >> at the end of the day, i believe the athletes -- not just athletes, but any entertainment should have the accessibility to explain these to use these platformst for whatever reason. >> you you and i agree. right on. that is an old '60s expression. thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me,

bill. >> a reminder to check out my show airing tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on fox news channel. tomorrow's episode features my confrontation with a college professor who was in trouble after makings outrageous claims about donald trump all caught on video. here is a sneak peek. >> professor, you said that president trump is going to kill people? howw do you justify that? this is in a cold, this is a classroom, professor. why are you trying to indoctrinate your students? does saint joe's even though you said these things? because they do now. >> bill o'reilly never misses my show. so you shouldn't,t, either. that i is it for us tonight. thanks for watching this "o'reilly factor" special. i'm jesse watters in for bill o'reilly.

heei will be back on monday with me. pleaseon remember, i'm watters, and this is my world. ♪ >> ed: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight."" time had been refilling in in a week omitted by media press of president trump being stuck in crisis mode. he went back to winning. hours after that ruckus news conference at the white house, the president was on offense again, confirming another cabinet pick that had been on senator chuck schumer's hit list for defeat. the senate confirmed scott pruitt to run the environmental protection agency. but a republican one today that pruitt will face nothing short of a bloodbath. in an