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governor of connecticut has told police they don't have to comply saying that his state has no obligation to cooperate with federal immigration laws, governor malloy joined us now. the ex-lover coming on. >> tucker: we promote the segment earlier today i got a time of email from your constituents so i know, some i don't know saying the same thing which is the state is a physical wreck, it's massively in debt. the capital city is on the verge of bankruptcy, were laying off teachers, why is the governor focus on this, how does this improve on this? >> the governor focuses on everything, which created 85,000 jobs in last few years. as i was telling you off the tv, i inherited a mess that my predecessors set up by giving away benefits and not funding long-term obligations. you dig yourself out of these things slowly. connecticut complies with the law, there are federal laws that the federal authorities should enforce in their state laws that

the state authorities should enforce. we want the bad guys off the street, we want bad guys sent home. that's not the disagreement. the disagreement is the president can't order us to do federal work. quite frankly, the federal government should do its own job and get it done. we are not standing in the way of that happening. >> tucker: the federalism part of this, back to the original question i don't think you are responsible for all of connecticut sales, i don't think anybody's think that but they have gotten worse since you were governor. one way to crystallize as it is g.e. left after many years, went to massachusetts, not considered a hospitable place for business but they did. >> let me stop you for a minute, g.e. moved 200 jobs from connecticut for $150 million. >> tucker: not a big deal quits mark >> it's a big deal. >> tucker: they would pay one half $60 million for 200 jobs the big deal. if i had paid $160 million for 200 jobs the same people who sent you notes -- go >> tucker: are you saying it was unfair because mark >> they made a business decision that they wanted to have these 200 people

move from our state. we have thousands of employees, g.e. employees, we have more g.e. employees in connecticut right now than the day i got elected. it's been you're saying that g.e. moving and the head of g.e. saying were going to a place are aspirations of messages is not a big deal as i would use in? >> we would certainly prefer that they stay, how would you compete with states it's going to pay $150 million to move the equivalent of 200 jobs quits more clinical back to what i said maybe you didn't hear me. the reality is we have more g.e. jobs in connecticut today than we did the day i was elected to pretty >> tucker: that's kind of the point, how do you compete, connecticut isn't competing. that's the concern of some of your constituents, not all the publicans are right wingers it's a pretty democratic state, people saying holy smokes, $1.7 billion budget deficit. i'm not saying it's all your fault but it's set to rise, laying off teachers. how does your action today, make the lives of taxpaying residents better, it's the obvious? quest.

>> tucker: we are not lit up teachers but >> hartford is about to lay off teachers, the city is going in gun violence. >> i was a mayor for 14 years, one of the lowest crime rates in america investing in schools and housing. we know how to do those things, i'm not the mayor of hartford, there is a new mayor of hartford. speak with your capital city, is not insignificant. it's certainly not insignificant >> that's why the progress that's being made now with lower crime, now with more housing opportunities are important, we need to continue to make those. let me go back to the point. what you're arguing is we should do something that were not requiring to do, we should suspend state resources doing a federal job, at the same time you're saying why are you saying you don't want to do that quits mark you should be having that fight, you should be doing other things. >> tucker: what i'm saying is in a world of endless

possibilities, you could be spending a finite amount of time every day working, people in the state are worried because clearly it's in trouble. a $1.7 billion deficit i think it's fair for them to ask how will making it easier for people there legally to stay in our state, how to set up of our lives mark it's a simple question >> >> >> i was handed t had a $6.7 billion deficit. deficits are based on projection of expenses. i'm growing the state at less than half of my three predecessors per year. let me just finish. the money that we're spending in addition is to pay the debts that weren't paid by my predecessors. when they were giving away dollar co-pays or allowing people to retire as very young people, they were at the same time, not putting the money in the account to pay for that on a long-term basis. what we have needed to do and

what we are doing for instance i'm in the 80th governor in the state of connecticut, on the first governor to fully fund the long-term obligations actuarially and with cut those long-term obligations by $21.5 billion bridge >> tucker: that's great, but if things are getting better with your deficit, the projections that i just read suggest it's about to get bigger from 1.7 to 1.9, without getting into the weeds too much is that not true? >> is not true. >> tucker: i'm not blaming you with everything that's wrong with your state, it's clear not your fault. i'm asking for the fourth time, give up after this. does make it easier for illegal aliens to stay in connecticut improve the lives of the citizens and experts connecticut were trying to pay off $1.7 billion of debited set. >> i'm going to challenge you, were not doing anything to make it easier to stay in our state. the federal government has its obligations but we should not be spending local dollars, state dollars to do the federal's job.

>> tucker: what does this cost you to issue this order today quits mark >> actually much of n that order that went out yesterday, its advisory, was actually done three years ago by our legislature, a unanimous vote, republicans and democrats passing a law that says that's how we're going to treat this case. >> tucker: what i find a little confusing. >> so you're asking -- what i'm saying to you is connecticut has decided how to handle this issue in the state of connecticut by a unanimous vote, republicans or democrats in both houses all voted for a law that says we will cooperate with ice under certain circumstances and we will not cooperate with them to do their job when they should be doing their job. a spill and it's a little strange that almost exactly the moment you're making this argument that it's a federal responsibility, you're invoking federalism.

the states have -- >> tucker: some dumb academics pick out something you believe" mark >> tucker: i'm losing track of who believes in what, at the same time, you issue a statement attacking the white house about transgender batch of instruments exec situational federalism. speak on sunday made a mistake. they're making the exactly the same case that you're making about these immigration laws but you're saying it's wrong with a make that place. >> we have laws, those laws are intended to protect people. i think they've committed a mistake. spill what you're saying, >> tucker: anybody who's uncomfortable with the federal government imposing national guidelines for trenches or bathrooms as a bigot? >> no, i'm saying it's a mistake. >> tucker: you just said bigotry is not a local, state, federal issue.

you think it's discrimination? you sent the white house should decide it's an act of determination. >> what did they say? >> tucker: exactly. my reading of it, you're the one who issued the response is where throwing it back to the states for them to the side, you just use the term bigotry indiscriminate should to describe that. i'm wondering how executive that's right. >> because why should someone be required to use a facility that they're no longer equipped to use because it was on their birth certificate? why should someone who identifies as having changed their required to make you happy because -- >> tucker: i just want to clarify, letting the states to make these decisions as you believe in in the case of immigration policy is an act of discrimination is that what you're saying what's mark >> what i'm saying is the treatment of transgender individuals and singling them out and saying we will no longer support their rights or respect their differences is a mistake.

>> tucker: thanks for joining us, secretary of state rex tillotson and homeland security john kelly were in mexico today as the governments tried to shore up relations south of the border despite its immigration policies that are not popular there. for more on this we go to fox news correspondent trace gallagher in l.a. >> the two secretaries are hoping to discuss a range of issues with their mexican counterparts, but again it was immigration this dominated the date with homeland security secretary john kelly reemphasizing there will be no mass deportations of illegal immigrants. kelly also said there would be no use of military force in immigration operations and even scolded the media for continuing to suggest there would to be. the reason the media keeps saying it's a military operation is because president trump said "it's a military operation." the white house later said the president was using the description as an adjective, meaning precise and flawless. mexico's former minister acknowledged that this is a complex time in you ex-meskill

relations, further agitated by the u.s. saying it would deport illegal immigrants to mexico regardless of their nationality. despite rising tensions, secretary of state rex tillotson called today's meeting with mexican authorities productive. till her has yet to do an interview was you have to go to a conference offered these comments. >> we acknowledge and relationship filled with vibrant colors, too strong a sovereign country from time to time will have differences. >> in reference to those differences president trump said he would be going on a tough trip but we are "we are going to have a good relationship with mexico, i hope." and if we don't, we don't. in short time makes can president henrique peña nieto improved the relationship builder constructed for the jet.

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>> tucker: chief strategist steve madden and speak 25 made a joint appearance at cpac to use the moment to rebut the claims

that they hit each other, and that president trump won't back off any of his agenda, is part f what they said. >> we share an office suite together, were basically together from 6:30 in the morning until about 11:00 at night. >> avenue a little thing about the war room, he is a fireplace, no space off a. where coalition a lot of people have strong beliefs about different things, we understand you can come together to when we understood that from august 15th. we never had a doubt that donald trump never had a doubt that he was gone to win. and how they pretrade the campaign, how they pretrade the transition and how they are portraying the administration it's always wrong. he's going to continue to press his agenda. as economic conditions get better as more jobs get better, they're going to continue to fight. if you think they're going to give you your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken. every day, it is going to be a fight. that is what i'm proudest about

donald trump. all the opportunities he had to wait her off this, all the people that have come to hit has said you've got to moderate come every day in the oval office he tells us, i committed this to the american people i promise this when i ran and i'm good to deliver on this. >> tucker: what is the real message here? we're joined now by author and fox news contributor charles krauthammer, thanks a lot for coming on. the first point they both made it as they like each other, if it's true, does it matter if it's true. >> were going to have these stories that there is a terrible going on all the time. i think they felt that there is the first order of business, i think it's somewhat trivial because it was a very substantive exchange and from bannon who we've not heard of since the swearing in, it was extremely revealing. this is the brains of the operation. he is a guy who thinks

strategically in large categories and he lay them out. i how that was the most interesting part and unfortunately it at the least amount of coverage. it >> tucker: of course, what were they? he described their aims thematically. >> the representation of trump is that you you can never get out of reince priebus or out of trump. at three overarching ideas, one is the international arena, we're going to break that down. you got this in the inaugural address. if the world and our allies have been parasitic on us for 70 years. with alliances and the trade and multilateral trade, we're done with that, america first. that's number one. the second is what he calls economic nationalism, meaning trade and immigration, we're looking after america first again in terms of the economy. the third is the destruction of the administrative state. on the third one, i think you can get a consensus among all conservatives and were all rooting that honor.

and i think the first salvo in that war happened yesterday when the trump administration reversed the bathroom a bill that had been issued by the obaa in administration. whatever your ideas about transgender sexuality, it is not the province of the federal government, nothing to do with the overblown leviathan state. it's a way to say we're going to smash all this and we're going to eliminate this excess. that's reaganism, that's hardcore reaganism, the regulatory rollback. on the other two, this is going against the tradition of the left 30 years. he will run into trouble, especially on the second having to do with trade in congress. it >> tucker: this was rolled out at cpac, it was the centerpiece of today's conference, traditionally a plae conservative grassros define what it is to be conservative.

this looks like the new conservative or a version of it. is this the largest constituency within the conservative tent? >> i think it's a good indicato indicator, the straw poll of conservative thinking in the same way they take a poll of their presidential preferences, it's not terrible accurate. trump came in third and last time. it's a good reflection of where conservatives are. i think the enthusiasm with which all of this was received as well as the other people in the high command of the trump administration tells you that there's nothing like winning. having one, having seized all the engines of power in washington as a result of the trump candidacy, they're going to go with it. i didn't see any dissent. the dissent will come from congress down the road when, for example, they have to deal with tariffs and trade in that kind of thing. from the grassroots, people who

are expressing their ideology and their conservatism, they are very willing to allow the winner, the ones the head of the party in the country and the free world to define conservatism, the same way it happened with reagan. he came into a mildly center-right party and he changed it. and became reaganites. now bannon is thinking through how to make a new ideology and he expressed it rather well. >> tucker: thank you very much for that. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: stephen bannon and speak 25 with the only members c today. >> president trump is leading the fight to repeal and replace obamacare. let me assure you that america's

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>> tucker: the obama administration announced a new rule that would require every public school in the country to permit transgender students to use every bathroom or locker room to match their gender identity. doesn't trump retracted these rules and said that bathroom rules are state issues and should be effected by a decreased from 60 and hundred and sabine avenue. this morning on twitter, he called president trump a monster for reporting to the policy in place just one year ago, things were coming on for it >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: i think there's two sides to every debate including this one. what i was struck by i'm reading it now, i woke up feeling sick to my stomach about the trump white house attacks on the vulnerable lgbt kids, these people are monsters. i thought to myself, was obama attacking vulnerable lgbt kids a year ago before putting this policy into place ? because marquis spent seven years and president was he a monster attacking lgbt kids clutch market >> what we know is he put

protections in place, let's say what were putting in talking about, this was guidance that was provided by schools that schools wanted and asked for. for very specific reason, they wanted to create a safe environment for all the kids in their school, they wanted to avoid title ix lawsuits. that's what's so mind-boggling about what the trump administration did today. he took away practical guidance to school administrators and principals were looking to create this safe environment. in looking to not get sued for title and exaggeration mike tin paired >> tucker: they could look them up, took the obama administration seven years to do this, i'm not the one calling people monsters were pulling them back. are you giving president obama a pass for not acting on this sooner? >> i'm giving president obama extraordinary praise for taking excessive action to protect these vulnerable kids and i am

saying that donald trump is not only a monster but he's a coward. were talking about somebody who is so emasculated by vladimir putin. >> tucker: now or never getting off is pretty >> that he has to come back and pick on vulnerable kids did these kids are the most vulnerable children in the country. >> tucker: let's get to the core of the issue. i'm never going to get you to say that obama should have -- that's fine. let's move from the politics of the science. this policy has implications go are beyond bathrooms and locker rooms. the court question is what constitutes male and female. the implication of these guidelines that obama put in place is that a man is someone who says he's a man at a woman is someone who says she's a woman. you get to decide your gender, there is no biological anchor to anymore, it's all determined by the individual. how do i know if a person is male or female, is there some other absolute standard that people have to meet to be male

or female of the men what say? >> 11 gender identity is enough to show what gender they are. if you're confused about that, i leave that to your level of enlightenment. >> tucker: is not about enlightenment. it's not about status, this is a real question because there are all kinds of institutions in american life that function on a segregated basis. if women's college, sports, both professional and amateur, prison. you're telling me that i can plan a women sports team when i say i'm a woman. >> what we are saying in this guidance with public schools in the vulnerable kids that are there, that there are specific guidelines that these teachers and these supervisors and these principles asked for and how to create safe. a spoon know you're going back to the first question. >> that's what were talking about. >> tucker: let me take you back in three sentences, when you said it gender identity is determined by the person who possesses it, that's almost exactly what you set up >>

correct. >> i'm saying there are massive implications everyone is either to dump her too embarrassed to explore. if your is what you say it is, that what's prevents me from playing on a women's field hockey team? what's preventing me from getting convicted of a felony. and go to a woman's prison? >> it's pretty absurd. if >> tucker: because why what's mark >> because there is no examples of this. there are no examples of this, this is the same argument about saying that this will allow sexual predators that will go into women's backing bathrooms. spoon i'm not making that argument, i just want to know what the standards are. i'm not making any claims, i'm asking a question. and i want you to answer. is there a scientific standard? when you deal with questions of biology, that is science. what's a scientific standard, i want to know if you're a man or open how do i find out what to mark >> these are discussions that i encourage you to have

with someone who is transgender and. >> tucker: you think about the stuff for a living it's a very simple question, how do i find out >> your gender identity determines your gender. mack >> tucker: should someone who looks like me, i look like a man, but i say i'm a woman, i demanded the small business administration loan for women owned businesses, that's a real thing, that's a billion-dollar question, for real, can you turn me down if i sam a woman? >> the question that is on the table right now is about title ix. you want to go off on -- >> tucker: title ix is not a tangent, it was created around the question of women's sports. so, as an apparent man if i say i am a woman, is that enough, do i meet the standard as a woman to play in a woman sports, that goes right to title ix, don't dodge the question. >> this is something that the supreme court is looking at and is looking at next month the

answer is absolutely yes, gender identity determines one's gender gender. mack. this is a matter of civil rights principle in his or science behind this? i want you to name a single scientist, just one who says you can determine your own just by saying so, can you name one scientist who says that? >> i'd be happy to send you money. >> tucker: a scientist who said you could determine your own. >> you clearly have some issues around this. >> tucker: 's questions if you can't answer and your saying things like you're not enlightened, what's the science behind this? in your deflecting, why? >> >> i'm simply not deflecting, this is a matter of settled science. >> tucker: was the science, executor ? why can't i change my race but i can't change my with mark >> is inherently who people are paired >> tucker: what if i am saying

inherently of another race who are you to say i'm not? >> you're getting into silly hypotheticals principle and is not silly at all, nobody can tell you you could change your own in your saying it settled science but >> that's simply not true, we have had to transgender country -- >> tucker: you're saying whatever you say desperate >> you want to go into this right wing pseudoscience but >> tucker: is not rain we get all all. it's pseudoscience? i will give you a thousand dollars if you can find any scientist, like an actual biologist at an accredited american college, here's a science, here's a state of play name your and that's what it is. >> i don't understand why you won't answer the question about why shouldn't schools who were asking it get guidance on how to create safe environments for all their kids? >> tucker: i would say that guidance exists, it floats on the internet and if it's merely guidance, than the federal government needs no more to do with it.

they can say here's our guidance, you're undermining your own argument to begin with. >> if it simple enough why do you care so much? >> tucker: i'm actually enjoying this, but i want you to produce the scientist, just one. that's make at harvard, i'll give you a thousand bucks, not attacking anybody i'm just asking the question. were out of time. it was great to see you. a former foreign service officers has bloodily reported as fabricating his influence over president trump to appear more powerful than he really is and hurt the united states. the brand-new theory on the russia question, he'll join us in just a minute. ...nighttime sniffling,sneezing, coughing, aching, fever best... ...sleep with a cold, medicine.

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>> tucker: president trump's comments about swedish immigrants were instantly denounced as false by the american media, often hysterically. in an op-ed on wednesday in a "wall street journal," members of the sweden democrats the second and third biggest party in sweden said the president's remark if anything understated their country's problems. rights and social unrest have become a part of daily life.

gang violence is booming, anti-semitism has risen, we can only hope that the leaders in washington want to make the same mistake that our socialist and liberal politicians dead. something to think about. another intriguing new article argues that it doesn't president trump that's getting co-opted dominic by vladimir putin, previously principle deputy secretary of energy under president george w. bush, a piece he wrote for the hill, he says that vladimir putin is weaker than he looks and exaggerates his influence to bolster his image and undermine the united states, think slot for joining us. you're saying there was a russian propaganda campaign but it's not the one we read about in "the new york times." >> it's not what we read about. the story that the media have missed is that they are the ones being played by president putin. the american press. he's a very weak, he's very weak he has these pressures at home

from his muslim citizens on the one hand on the russian nationalists on the other. he has to satisfy this. he has created this image that makes them look like a strong man but only works if he has a week american president. >> tucker: this is for domestic consumption. more than internationally. were looking at this and say what does putin want, does he want us to back off on crimea is it ukraine that he's worried about and you're saying he's unstable at home and to shore up his support he wants to make himself look like a puppet master. >> that's exactly right, it's not just at home it's also in eastern europe. he's just trying to recreate the old russian empire and make it as big as he can. he strained to say on the puppetmaster, and i am expanding russia and i'm restoring the glory of old russia. it's all right, you russians, that you are suffering. because of sacrifice for the cause of the motherland. >> tucker: that's a familiar theme in russian history.

what i didn't realize until i read your piece that right after the election were democrats in the country were howling that trumped one because of putin, the russian media were parroting that. >> that's right. the disadvantage that putin has, he controls every word the media say. we know what he's thinking all the time. you just read the media because he's approving what they say. right after the election, the russian media celebrated, they said trump is our friend, but only for a few days, then they said wait a minute, look at these national security appointments. matt has sessions, he was talking about mitt romney as secretary of state, these are all russia hawks. they said what's going on here. and they went quiet for about three weeks. and then this narrative started from a putin encouraging belief that he is the puppetmaster and in the russian media filed in the. meanwhile, he had surrogates in eastern europe saying listen,

there's a new order. it's us. and you fred's of america, you don't want to be the last one still trusting america come of this bus is leaving, if you get on the bus right now, we'll take care of you. >> tucker: the deep irony in your theory is this would make the american media which hates trump a dupe of russian propaganda, they're the ones were being controlled by russian propaganda. >> it would be the first time. what does putin want, he wants to keep crimea exactly what you said, he wants to keep crimea and ukraine. he is going to go and offer trump a grand bargain, i will help you in syria if you let me keep crimea. if that's a bargain that only a week american president would make, he was not going to make that bargain. what's the inducement for him running to that bargain? he has so many cards that he's holding that trump can't counte counter. , that putin can't counter. if he's a kleptocratic, he governs by criminality.

he extends his criminal influence, trump can say two sessions use every tool of american law enforcement and intelligence had to go after the corruption, go after the money good >> tucker: and maybe he will. unfortunately, were out of time. if i don't know if your theory is right but it makes more sense and anything i have heard on this subject. up next, at first they came for the whiteboards, and i said nothing because i was not a whiteboard. michigan state university just banned whiteboards because people might write offensive things on them, will talk with students who were are okay wit. introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months.

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>> tucker: another college tradition is dying a gruesome death for the stake of students feelings, administrators have banned whiteboards from the schools dormitories because

sometimes student let offensive messages wind up on them. heaven forbid a student's ever be offended so the board had to go. the naacp has held the ban as a victory for the school's black community, we reached out to msu for comment they did not reply. aaron stephens is a student keep things the band is a fine idea, thanks for not joining us. when not to banned pens and keyboards and other instruments of divergent opinion and just kind of suppressed speech and everyone would be happy? it is kind of what's happening. >> as an msu student and any standing resident, i think the whiteboards distract from the bigger issue at hand. what we got here is another student who feels the need to intimidate somebody in our community based on a different identity. i think the whiteboard band distracts from that. what it does is it put the blame

on the method of messaging rather than a dressing the message itself. >> tucker: right ,-com,-com ma but the method of the message were kind of intertwined. it's one thing to have opinions but if i can't express them, they're not really opinions, are they? the promise of the first amendment does not only do i get to think things but i get to say them, right? >> right. with that, i think that what's really important is right now in our current political climates, you see a lot of things that are instead of open discussion and open dialogue i think the base of free speech is that we can have conversation that are productive, we could disagree respectfully and still move forward with our lives. i think the point that i want to try to make here is make sure were more respectful when we make those kind of points. the your viewpoints shouldn't necessarily be attacking people it should be about the issues. right now our political climate

is completely focused on the in group outgroup dynamic. that divides the country we don't want to divide the country, we want to be stronger together, that is just how we need to operate. the truth is, you and me are going to disagree on some stuff but i'm here on this show because i really think that the most report and think we can do is talk to people that we disagree with. understand their viewpoints. >> tucker: why would you be taking out a means of communication, it's not the ideal means of communication, maybe we live i don't know if it's occurred to you in such a orwellian world people are punished for believing what they say and maybe they feel like the only outlook is on a whiteboard, why would they want to take them away from them? >> what i'm going to say is i think the whiteboard bands distracts from the bigger issue. i'm 100% willing to have those conversations. i think those conversations are

important. >> tucker: let me stop you, what does that mean? you're either for people being allowed to write with it they got a whiteboard or you're not. it may distract from another issue but it still is an issue itself, why would they be allowed to write in a whiteboard i don't understand a? i think ts you need to go into conversations with an open mentality. right now while i'm talkative, i'm really trying to understand where you're coming from because the truth is every single person regardless of their political affiliation relative where they came from, they have a reason why they think how they think. to make progress in our society, we need to recommends that. you might agree with what they think, you might not agree with the method of how they got there but the truth is once we start to understand why they think how they do, we can understand active conversations. >> tucker: everything you're saying is obvious and i think most people would agree with that. again, you need to be allowed to say what you think.

what you think it doesn't have to be popular or constructive or polite to be allowed to say it. you have an absolute right to express your views. period. >> you're right. >> tucker: that would include whiteboards, no? it's kind of simple. >> the idea of freedom of speech is essential to our country that's our country is founded on. the idea that you could disagree with -- 's point when standing up for it? >> there's a difference between you expressing a view and that you providing intimidation and harassment to another students. the truth is msu has a responsibility to keep their students safe. that's what it is. >> tucker: the telling the amount of time, i hope you'll come back because i want to get to the question of what statements. i appreciate it. coming up, sad news today. a special tribute to our friend alan colmes, when we come back. rheumatologist move to another

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>> tucker: will take a moment to remember our friend alan colmes come a long time and fox news contributor died today at the age of 67, sean hannity ticket looks back at ellen's life and career. >> his quick wit and straight talking style brought him into the hearts and homes of americans all across the countr country. >> see all of asia across the y. >> he was born in 1950 new york city, the bright lights of the big apple would one day bore him into a life and entertainment, giving way to a life is a hard-hitting news man. 1971 graduate of hofstra university, he got his start in the spotlight as a stand-up comedian. >> is a dirty word, can you slow down? >> thriving radio career, his big break in radio was in 1984

with a prime time slot on new york-based wabc. >> i'm alan colmes wabc talk radio. >> in 1987, he moved to wnbc in new york, a short-lived move as wnbc announced his radio division was closing its doors, giving the final sign off on the great of you nbc. >> i'm alan colmes, thank you, god bless you, for the last time, this is 66 wnbc. >> in 1996, he parlayed his successful radio career into a television career. >> the economy is doing well, if it ain't broke, you don't have to fix it. >> teaming up with me to launch hannity and colmes. when the show ended it was by far the number one show and it's time slot and cable news and consistently one of the top rated shows on cable. as the banter sometimes grew a bit contentious, the mic. >> you are lying!

alan would always use that great sense of humor to combat some of the stuff critics but >> i think it was great. >> off the air, he found love. >> i've been calling him honey since newt gingrich prayed >> into thousand three he married dr. elise crowley a professor of public policy at rutgers university and another major milestone just four months later, his debut nonfiction book red, white, and liberal, how left is right and right is wrong. never one to back down from controversy, his hearted to get a view style made him a greatly admired from stand-up comic, to other, to radio host, to television, he lived to entertain you, the american people. telling the news how he sought and taking his audience through some of the most significant moments of our time. today, the fox news channel lost a very dear member of our family one of the nicest, kindest,

friendliest people come a dear personal friend, alan colmes. >> tucker: whatever you thought of his political opinions, he was a deeply nice man and gentle, will miss him. good night. >> welcome to hannity, trump white house strategist steve mendez making headlines for going after the immediate cpac, i'm in for sean. he once again scald the media the opposition party, watch thi this. >> look at the opposition party and how they portrayed the campaign, how they betray to the transition and how they're portraying the administration is always wrong. if you remember, the campaign is most chaotic by the media description, most chaotic, most unorganized, then you saw them all crying and