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>> martha: neustadt attorney general sessions have met with the same diplomat that eventually took down michael flynn dominated the day. at 4:00 p.m., sessions faced reporters. >> i have decided to recuse myself from any existing or future investigations of any matter relating in any way to the campaign for president of the united states. this announcement should not be interpreted as confirmation of the existence of any investigation or suggestive of the scope of any such investigation. speak to that statement, no doubt forced by the buzz that went on all day. president trump defended his attorney general. >> mr. president... >> total. >> do you think you should have spoken truthfully? >> he probably did. >> for the good of the country,
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attorney general sessions should resign. >> people are refusing -- partisan politics pre-they should be ashamed of themselves. >> the top cop in our country lied under oath. he has proved he is unqualified and unfit. >> it's ridiculous. our friends on the other side are hyperventilating. >> martha: tonight, we talked to congressman trey gowdy and current member of the house intelligence committee investigating the alleged russian interference. richard paynter is a former white house ethics lawyer calling on senator sessions to resign. and constitutional lawyer and scholar jonathan turley. we begin with catherine heritage who questioned the attorney general. >> the attorney general told reporters he is considering recusal when a "washington post" story seemed to accelerate the timeline. >> on monday of this week we set a meeting for a final decision
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on the question and my staff recommended recusal. they said since i had involvement with the campaign, i should not be involved in any campaign investigation. >> the attorney general called allegations he acted as an intermediary between the trump campaign and russian intelligence as false and baseless. attorney general sessions he will clarify as confirmation testimony to the senate judiciary committee. there, he said he was caught offguard by democrat al franken's question about a media report concerning allegations the russians have a damaging dossier on then-candidate trump. attorney general sessions said he correctly stated he had no contact of a political nature with the russians but will now explain his meetings with the russian ambassador. in the september meeting, sessions said the request came out of the blue to meet with him and to this day, he does not understand the motive.
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with hindsight, do you believe this is a coincidence that the russians asked you for a meeting or do you believe you are targeted? >> i don't recall and don't have a sense of any connection whatsoever. i can't speak for what the russian ambassador may have had in his mind. >> based on the news conference, the attorney general will no longer get briefed on the russian investigation and he will no longer have decision-making authority. that will fall to his deputy and they confirmation on that position is next week. >> martha: thank you. here, congressman trey gowdy, member of the permanent select committee on intelligence. good to have you. you heard senator sessions recusal today and watched him answer the question. what questions do you have for him remaining? >> for him, probably not any because i'm not a criminal
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investigator. to the extent people are talking about false statements before congress, i wouldn't have any -- that was my old job. my new job is to provide oversight over investigations after they happen which is why we met with jim comey this morning. sessions incorrectly answered a question. that happens almost every day in congress and there are perjury referrals. people do make mistakes. i was struck listening to the intro, martha, that it could not have been a campaign related conversation if it took place on capitol hill. i don't know where the meeting with the russian ambassador took place. >> martha: in his office with two of his aides. >> then that's a separate issue, discussing politics. the jeff sessions i know has always been a rule follower. i don't think he is going to be talking about campaign related matters on capitol grounds.
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if he said he forgot about it, he would be the 1 millionth person who forgot a fact. >> martha: here's where i think it's raising questions. after i watch the news conference, some of those questions arose. it's the middle of the campaign, september. there is already discussion about hacking from russia that surfaced during the dnc in the summer. he says the russian ambassador called out of the blue and said i'd like to talk with you. and he said yes. a few short months later in january, he describes a somewhat uncomfortable conversation. he brought up things about the a crane that seemed to make the ambassador uncomfortable. in january, he doesn't remember that conversation happening? after that, his aides don't say to him, hey, after the testimony, we did have that meeting, remember? and then there's no follow-up to the committee based on the recollection. >> he's the one that gave the testimony before the senate judiciary committee. it is up to him to clarify.
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i'm telling you, having been there for six years, almost every witness gets some fact incorrect. that is not tantamount to perjury. i am not prejudging this. the fbi is welcome to look at i it. if the senate feel strongly, they can send a referral to the fbi but simply making a factual error is not tantamount to perjury. speak to the is ongoing. you met with the fbi director this morning. i watched congressman schiff speak about it. he said the fbi has given us a fraction of what they know. he seemed rattled that they are not sharing -- about whether there was collusion about the trump campaign and the russians. that's the main question. what's your take away? what are you able to share? >> i was in the same room for the same morning. it's exactly the opposite. i have never heard a federal law enforcement agent give, with
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that degree of particularity and detail, an update on an inquiry. as you recall, i was a federal prosecutor for six years so i have talked a lot to fbi agents bear he went so far beyond what any other administration official has ever done, eric holder or loretta lynch or his predecessor. they never gave us this level of detail and specificity. he bent over backwards. not just the dnc. i want to investigate all aspects of russia, not just the emails. everything. hacking the infrastructure, attempts to hack the rnc, whatever they did, look at it. congress does not run parallel criminal investigations with the fbi. we are not equipped to do it. we are not supposed to do it. jim comey did more today to update us than i've ever seen and for adam to treat it that dismissively, clearly he and i were into separate rooms.
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the one last question. john brennan and mr. clapper both said that after the investigation they were not able to see any evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and the russians. they were -- that they were trying to bring down hillary clinton's candidacy. did you get new information today? >> if i did get new information, i would not be able to share it given the nature of our hearing but i will tell you to the extent people are relying on media reports, whether it is "the new york times" or "washington post" upon which to base their factual assertions, i would tell them to be very, very careful. i'm not going to say more than that other than the person leading the investigation on behalf of the united states government, the head of the fbi, listen to what he has to say. don't listen to anonymous sources who will leak classified information which, by the way, is also against the law. between jim comey and a reporter
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from "the new york times," give me jim comey. >> martha: a range of reaction across the political spectrum. here now, scholar who teaches. misleading the senate in testimony about one's own contacts with the russians is a good way to go to jail. let me start with you, richard paynter. do you still feel that way? >> well, yes. i feel very strongly about the real problem which is russia's conduct over many decades. and our inability to deal with that. russia has tried to subvert western democracy since the 1920s. here in the united states and in europe. it is going on in france right now. if we are going to deal with this problem, we need to be honest with each other about
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what we know about what the russians are doing and meeting with the russians and when senator sessions in his confirmation hearing said he had no contact with the russians, that's what he said, and that was just wrong. he had had these meetings with the russian ambassador. i'm very concerned about it. i'm not going to prejudge weather and senator sessions committed perjury. what i am interested in is, do we have an attorney general and other officials in our government who are willing to be honest with each other and communicating about this very serious threat to our democracy coming from russia. >> martha: i want to play a bit of what senator sessions today about -- said today. >> we talked a little bit about terrorism, as i recall. somehow the subject of the ukraine came up. i have the ukrainian ambassador in my office the day before and
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to listen to him, nothing -- russia had done nothing that was wrong in any area and everybody else was wrong with regard to the ukraine. got to be a little bit of a testy conversation at that point. he said something about inviting me to have lunch. i did not accept that and that never occurred. >> martha: jonathan turley, your reaction. >> well, i think the attorney general was correct to recuse himself. he was also correct in issuing a letter of clarification. as i've said before, i thought there should've been a recusal early. my only complaint on that point is the administration sometimes seems three beats behind, sort of like your uncle who keeps on dancing when the music stops. if they need to pick up the rhythm on something like this. there should've been an earlier recusal. they could have avoided much of this but i still don't see where the crime is. i looked at the testimony.
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i respect what mr. paynter said. no question that the answer was not complete. the question was broader but the question was not a model of clarity. log question that involved a recently released cnn story. should he have been a little more broad in his answer? absolutely. but i'm still not convinced there is a compelling case for perjury. he has recused himself. that's the right thing. he did it a bit belatedly because he waited for the meeting. >> martha: richard, do you believe there's a case for perjury? >> what i said is not telling the truth about your dealing with the russians is a good way to end up in jail. people have gone to jail for that, whether it is alger hess or other people. i'm not going to prejudge the case but i don't think -- the
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attorney general if he can't communicate with his colleagues in the senate about a meeting with the russian ambassador. that's not a fact you forget. this is a very, very serious situation. >> martha: final thought, jonathan turley. >> we need to recognize he answered the more difficult and more poignant question which is campaign discussions with the russians. that was the one he did not evade in the did answer it and appears to be truthful. >> martha: thank you, gentlemen. good to have you tonight. tonight at 9:00 right here on fox, tucker carlson will speak exclusively in his one-on-one interview with attorney general jeff sessions about today's big announcement that he is recusing himself from the investigations into the trump campaign and the russians pray that's tonight at 9:00 on tucker carlson tonight. it's going to be a great interview, no doubt. more tonight on the top story, attorney general sessions recusal reminded us of the big
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>> martha: more now on our top story, and the ongoing political fallout after all they demands for attorneys general attorneys general jeff sessions recusal. some are calling for them to reside on the democrat side. at ended with the attorney general doing just that, recusing, not resigning. not before democrats came out in full force ordering for him to step down. watch face. the speaker beyond the shadow of a doubt, that attorney general sessions cannot possibly lead an investigation into russian interference in our elections or come anywhere near it. speak of this pretty suspicious. i certainly would have said, you need to recuse yourself. >> this congressman in impeached the president for something so far less. >> i have studied their roles and devaluation. i believe those recommendations are right and just.
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therefore, i have recused myself. >> martha: democrats are calling this a victory but critics are pointing out that some of these same politicians had very different reactions when attorney general of loretta lynch was caught having a very questionable meeting with president bill clinton in the middle of his wife's email probe. joining me now, mercedes schlapp, republic and strategist, and juan williams, cohost of "the five." welcome to both of you. it seems in the she was on the other foot, the level of the outrage is ramped up with the equal and opposite reaction. juan, i want to start by showing senator schumer back on june 30th with regard to loretta lynch. we'll play him then and to now. >> she has said nothing was discussed related to the investigation. you have two choices, to say this didn't matter or she is lying. i think it didn't matter. there cannot be even a scintilla
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of doubt about the impartiality and fairness of the attorney general, the top law law enforcement official of the land. it is clear, attorney general sessions does not meet that test. attorney general sessions should resign. >> martha: juan, by sitter different story? >> clearly, loretta lynch didn't deny she had a meeting at the time with bill clinton. the context was different. your point is well taken, that this has become such a partisan thing. i think the attorney general today did a big favor to president trump. i think he added credibility to whatever investigation has now been done, the way that loretta lynch removed herself, that is to live a controversial item. that allowed the fbi jim jim cy to move forward on prosecution. normally, the fbi director has nothing to do with it. now, you are in a situation where the attorney general has said, i will be formal about this and recuse myself. i think that was the right move.
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he said it was based on the advice of his top aides. i think it was the right move because it will help president trump as this investigation moves forward. >> they said they were considering this move to recuse among his staff before the salt story broke last night. the context of it, mercedes, everything is seen in a political context. the big tuesday nights each, president trump is all across the newspapers in every internet site, new site, a big win for him. then, all of a sudden, lo and behold, heading out to newport news till end an aircraft carrier, this is the meat of every single moment today. what you make of that? >> it was shocking news, quite frankly. i think what is disturbing is the fact that the democrats have decided that they are going to jump the gun. they are so eager to find their next target, and their next target is senator jeff sessions. they jumped right onto that he is lying and that he should
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resign. that is just a far stretch, ridiculous. when you actually listen to the exchange, that is why i encourage viewers to listen to the exchange, it is very clear that senator al franken asked the question in a way that was focused on the trump surrogates and their continuous exchange with the russian government. he responded, senator sessions, based on that context as a surrogate. obviously, we know that senator sessions, as do many of the senators and members of congress, they meet with ambassadors in their official role as a senator or congressman. >> martha: i think the thing that people take issue with is that he didn't correct it. he said there are two people with him during that discussion. the fact that nobody said, we got to get out in front of this. >> the ambassador was the same person who had discussions with mike flynn. maybe they thought if they kept her head down they wouldn't have to discuss this. that is just not the way the world works. >> i would also add, martha,
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that there was a letter sent to jeff sessions about contact with the russians and the response was no contact. >> martha: no contact about the election. a lot of parsing of words. both of you, thank you very much. people up to here with a lot of the stuff. we will move on. thank you for being here. good to see you both. breaking tonight, new reports of massive budget cuts at the environmental protection agency. the president asked for these cuts and he will get them at nonsecurity based agency. charles hurt and julie roginsky way in next. as the secretary of state about to blow up the iran deal that president trump hates it so much? our own general jack keane joints is next with his take on that. stick around i thought i married an italian. my lineage was the vecchios and zuccolis. through ancestry, through dna i found out that i was only 16% italian.
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>> martha: developing tonight, hot off president trump speech about rebuilding our military, the commander in chief travel to newport news, virginia, for a visit aboard america's newest aircraft carrier. he moved the stop to promise more support for our armed forces. >> i am calling for one of the largest offensive spending
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increase in history. our military requires a sustained, stable funding to meet the growing needs placed on our defense. our navy is now the smallest it has been since, believe it or not, world war i. don't worry. it will soon be the largest it has been. we also need more aircraft to modernize capabilities and greater force levels. american ships will sail the seas. american planes will soar the skies. american workers will build our fleets. [applause] >> martha: here now, charles hurt, political, and as for the washington times and julie roginsky, democratic calvinist analyst. this is what today was supposed to be about. a lot of it was drowned out by the jeff sessions news. he really does want to increase the budget here, charlie.
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he also has worked pretty hard to get some of those contracts lowered with lockheed and boeing and all of that cover those negotiations that he has been making. how is he doing? >> it love him or hate him, this is exactly what he ran his campaign on. it is exactly what he won on. as you mentioned, we have never seen it commander in chief come in and knock heads on individual programs like the f35 jet and the air force one replacement. actually, getting real savings out of those things by negotiating. of course, donald trump likes to present himself as the great negotiator. apparently, he is going to get under the hood of every negotiation there is out there. the military is, we are committed has been degraded to a point that we have never in decades. this is exactly what he said we would do. >> martha: he made it clear today, julie, that he wants or turned around, while doing cost
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cutting at same time. he is a businessman. as charlie said, most people who become president have spent their lives in government. they don't have any problem with escalating costs time and time again. this individual works very differently. >> >> there something to be said that this is a devastating thing, not just for the defense budget but across the board. you have a letter signed by over 100 generals by saying that a national security crisis would ensue if he were to cut the budget as he wants to cut it at places like the state department. it is not just about building more ships or building more planes or getting the budget hike to the defense department. it is also about ensuring that our diplomatic corps is not drastically cut. >> martha: isn't there a banner on the ship today? charlie, you pointed it out. >> 100 tons of diplomacy. indeed, you don't always have to use all those aircraft carriers.
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just using them -- just be one that is the argument he is making. >> you have people like general mattis and others that saying if you cut the diplomatic corps and the budget, you are forcing them to buy more bullets and ultimately, we don't want to go to war. a great part of avoiding war is a diplomacy and the what you are doing -- >> martha: peace through strength. >> he should look at as own gender generals. >> martha: he wants to slash 20, 25% from all these agencies, cut the head count, as well. there is a vast bureaucracy, anyone who drives down downtown d.c. sees enormous buildings. you think i'm what is everybody doing in there, charlie. >> any business leader that had to get a grip on the massive sprawling bureaucracy that the federal government would demand cuts across the board from
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everywhere. the epa, which is very much morphed away from being antipollution, environmental protection, and morphed into federal bureaucratic control of the most arcane things like ditches and people backyards, it cannot be immune from those cut cuts. >> martha: julie, your thoughts? >> i would suggest to go to places like flint, michigan, the devastation of lead protection. the epa did not do a good job with that. blood protection, and your home state of new jersey. >> martha: you can do good work and cut costs. it is possible. people do it all the time. >> not when you take acts like that, at a quarter of the budget, that is a lot of clean water he wants to prevent. >> martha: let see how it goes. julie, thank you. charlie, thank you. good to see you guys. we are getting reports that her new secretary of state is considering the iran deal and
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>> martha: the story developing this evening, secretary of state rex tillerson is calling for a full review of the controversial iran deal. it comes as he met with the director of atomic energy agency on the future of the deal that was struck during the obama administration unless the cornerstone of their state department activity. president trump has called ideal, is used on the campaign trail, a disaster. he has suggested that he might just tear it up as president.
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here now, general jack keane, a fox news military analyst. general, thank you for being here tonight. always good to have you. what do you think of this move by rex tillerson? >> i think it is absently necessary. this deal has been cloaked in secrecy, not only in the development, but once the deal was finalized, the american people whatever given a full accounting of the detail supporting this deal. i think this is absolutely essential, there has been rumors running around the government for some time now that there has been violations of this deal, a good, solid review of the intelligence on the protocols and what do we have on the iranians, are they already violated ms.? if so, why didn't the obama administration come forward with this information? absolutely essential. >> martha: you look at at this oppose and moves on my part of some administration officials to try to save this deal. they don't wanted to go away, the people that work so hard to me obama adminis
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if it does go away or it can be altered, it can be altered by re-recognizing our allies on the sunni side, right? saudi arabia, rebuilding these relationships will diminish ideal, wanted? >> this was the primary foreign policy administration of the obama administration for eight years. everything that they were doing in the middle east at the expense of our sunni arabs, as you point out. we were accommodating the iranians and putting their security at risk. therefore, they are absolutely applauding the trump administrations reach out to them as leaders, saying, we are going to restore america's leadership in the middle east. we understand, you're number one threat is iran. iran wants to dominate and control the middle east. so, this is moving in the right direction. >> martha: strong words about north korea from the trump administration. what you think they will do? >> first of all, let's get all the options on the table. we have a belligerent power here that three presidents have
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failed to control the development of a nuclear arsenal, which is what they have now. now, they are intending to build an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching the united states and delivering a warhead. that is an incredibly dangerous situation. no amount of sanctions has been able to bring them to heal. 20 years of involvement of china, trying to get them to curb north korea's behavior has failed. so, it is appropriate, let's get it all on the table, what realistically are some of our options with north korea, are we going to continue to move in the same direction and are we going to find ourselves at some point conducting a preemptory strike against an intercontinental ballistic missile? the problem with that, the option that north korea has at that point would be to start a war with south korea. >> martha: they already have that arsenal. you talk about preventing iran, north korea is way head. i don't want to let you go without asking your thoughts on
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today's big story, with regards to sessions and the russians. the bottom line is, do you think there is anything to the suggestion that there was collusion, to the trump campaign try to convince the russians to help them undermine hillary clinton's campaign by releasing those emails? >> we do know that the russians likely did hack into the dnc and try to undermine their participation in the election. but i go back to what director of national intelligence clapper said and the director of the cia john brennan, no lovers of donald trump, to be sure. they said that there was no evidence to support any collusion on the part of trump campaign officials and the russians. i don't think the basic facts have changed since then. obviously, there is an investigation that is ongoing that will either confirm or deny those facts. i suspect there is not more to destroy than what we arty know. >> general jack keane, great to see you. thank you very much. still at the head tonight, the
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real story of the 22 euros of mississippi who is now the newest poster child in the war of the president over immigration. 400 shootings in chicago just so far this year. former chicago police superintendent gary mccarthy joins us on a controversial new idea to cut back on crime and that town when we come back.
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>> martha: breaking tonight, more than 400 reported shootings and 94 murders in the city of chicago so far this year. prompting a surprising new reaction from president obama's former chief of staff, william daley, who suggested that a stop and frisk program, long considered very controversial, is probably what chicago needs to do to combat the violence. in moments, we will have a reaction from gary mccarthy, who spent more than four years as a superintendent of police department and from attorney eric laster. first, we turn to matt and chicago period. to speak of martha, last month, three children under the age of 13 were shot and killed in the city. there has been nearly 100 gun deaths this year. this violent crime is not slowing down as the cries to stop it are growing.
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of course, there are many issues at hand. one problem many people might not realize is the city's agreement with the aclu that critics say has tied the hands of police officers. in 2015, the aclu did a study that concluded that cpt was grossly over stopping minorities and profiling plaques. so, beginning in january of last year, chicago started to require that police officers fill out a lengthy report after every stop. as a result, they plummeted by over 80%. the same time, the city's murder rate exploded. begging the question, if the aclu agreement is in part to blame. chicago's police president told us his officers are afraid to engage in basic stops because they fear the aclu stack will label him a racist, that they would somehow be used against them. that standard police stops by never return to what they were. the aclu, however, says the chicago police department is to blame for the spike in crime and
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it considers the drop in police stops a victory for minorities. >> most of us never saw this, never saw the experiences of black chicagoans around stop and frisk. it was harmful to communities. >> it was above and beyond type of activity that officers were engaged in, that we may not see at that same level ever again. >> martha, the department of justice just wrapped up an investigation into cpd that paint is dead racist and in need of a training overhaul. it is yet to be seen how president trump will enforce that report that was done over the obama administration. martha. >> martha: thank you. joining me now with reaction as attorney eric. you listen to that report, what is your reaction? >> i listen to it and i think about the fairness in stop and frisk. stop and frisk is not unlawful but for example, nypd, they would stop people unlawfully,
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for example, over 80% of the stops when nypd instituted that rule for black people, black and brown people, that is very unfair. we take this argument is stop and frisk works, which does not, the nypd clearly states that stop and frisk when it was implemented improperly by the nypd for example, did not lower gun death, did not lower gun seizures. however, we have to look at the opioid addiction. look at it in the same vein, martha. should we stop white women and black men because opioids are killing them? should we go to their house illegally? that is something that we should consider, as well. >> martha: in terms of the violence that is happening in chicago, don't you want to protect those communities to the greatest extent that you can? you have more black victims, and many cases, black perpetrators, they are being told that they have to stop people equally,
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caucasians, blacks, they can't have a higher number of stops based on even the population in that neighborhood. that makes absolutely no sense. you can see that? >> they have to make legal stops. that is the issue. they have to make legal stops. for example, what the nypd utilized it -- >> martha: wouldn't you prefer if you lived in the neighborhood for the police to stop more people and fewer people when people are dying at a much higher rate? >> i want them to stop people legally just like i want to stop the opioid addiction set me the opioid deaths. we need to start going to these people houses in doing that. that is the same argument you are making. >> martha: you want to stop her opioids -- >> the same argument would go for opioid addiction. these people are killing themselves and overdosing, should be illegally search the house and their cars? it is the same exact thing. we have to make sure that we follow the law when it comes to
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stopping people. >> martha: the law-abiding citizens who live makes communities that need to be in a saber situation because they are not right now. >> 90% of the stops that were made were illegal, martha. >> martha: we gotta go. i want to get reaction from gary mccarthy, the police chief for four years. you heard the conversation, what you think? >> i don't know where to start. first of all, they are called the terry stops. the supreme court in 1968 determined that the police can stop people based upon reasonable suspicion. that is the authority on whether or not we can stop people. is not the aclu or department of justice. the problem we are having in chicago and across the country as of the greatest challenge to policing today is that over the last eight years, the aclu and the department of justice have pretty much linked up together and determined that data-driven policing, in other words, was
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started in new york in 1984, results in systemic racism, which is absurd. you have pointed out that is preposterous to expect that in a 97% african-american community in chicago, inglewood, our most violent community, we will stop 32% white folks. the problem is, we put officers at the places, at the times, locations, where crime happens over and over again. we take police actions to prevent that next crime. some of that or terry stops. i can show you two years of data from chicago from 21392014 measures that our stops were almost precisely when, where, and he was committing crimes. as a result, we had five decades worth of reduction. 1965 murder rates, which now are up by 100% and the stops are down by 95%. a correlation, doj has a lot to do with this.
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