in january? while back. the ratings were in, arnold's work and working there got swamped or destroyed by comparison in the rating machine d j t. i wish you the best of luck as president. we will see you, have a great weekend. ♪ >> hi, i am jesse watters' in for bill o'rielly. we'll get to the top story. democrats attempt to sabstage. there is a disclosure that he met twice with the russian ambassador in the presidential campaign. some protestors are seeing more sinister things. >> this story is not about jeff sessions or illegal talks

between trump and the campaign people. this story is barak obama and the democratic party attempting to saboitage the trump presidency and force him to be impeached or resign. >> joining us from austin, texas is karl rove are. senior advisor to president p george bush. it is leakers leaking stuff to the press or a theory where forme president obama is holed up somewhere and orchestraing a counter espionnage campaign and laying land mines throughout the administration and trying to derail president trump. how dew see it? >> i think there is a media

bias. i think the democrats are high alert, looking for every opportunity to trash a member of the trump administration. jeff sessions, i have known him personally and a man of great integrity and did right by recusing himself. he would have done that anyway. what they are attacking him for is a nothing burger. does president obama have is a role in this? i don't know. maybe he's doing a book deal. he has an organization obama for america and hor beganinize it. i get the truth team e-mails which they send out and it is all designed to stir people up. here's one. trump administration sets stage for mass deportations they say. i read the story from cnn and it doesn't say that but that is the

headline they wrote for it. unhappy with trump, call your congressman, local delegations fielding record number of calls. they are system atly attempting. and the political organization of the former president p. on january 21st. they were attacking president trump. and i don't think we have seen this in, in maybe ever in american history that a president having left office has a political apparatus going tooth and nail after his successor. >> you couldn't reare sift holding up the white piece of paper. >> here's a third one. >> it is okay, we believe you. i read information in the "guardian" and the "national journal" the obama administration received wiretap

approval to listen to phone calls of the trump officials as late aside october and combine that, obama officials are desiminating information about russia and will be used in the transsxigz uncorked in the first hundred days, it seemed like a systemic strategy to takedown president trump. pretty devious. >> let's take the second one first. the report ares that the obama administration officials took information about the context between trump campaign supporters or trump campaign officials and russian and disseminated it throughout the government in order that the trump administration would not be able to suppress the information, strikes me as paranoia and that is over the top lunatics saying we so

distrust our successor and if he found information damaging to america's security risk that might reflect badly on someone who is on the campaign. that is how they view the current president of the united states. that is inappropriate and paranoid. and i have a general sense that the fbi, particularly when they go to get the fisa. national security warrant to tape conversations and intercept conversations. i have a sense they are acting on the basis of need and the judges who grant those requests would not act without a sense that something needed to be listened to. i don't think that was political at all. i don't think so. >> if this happened with george wbush. you are going after kelly ann conway and going after flynn and

session, and how should president trump respond to the attacks on the lieutenants? it is happening and i don't know if there is a strategy to counter act it? >> you have to do it on a case by case basis. first of all, don't be diverted. this is an attempt to divert the president. don't take the bait and keep focused on cutting taxes to energize the american economy and roll ariing -- rolling bac the taxes and get you rid and replace obamacare and the tone, the tone ought to be disappointment. most americans look at this stuff and say it is petty politics and the more the

administration say we are sorry that the political opponents are obligated to do this, we are focused on the bigger things. >> president trump showed at the joint session that he can rise are above party politics. and we thank you very much. >> congratulations on cower coup. where did you stash o'rielly. >> it was a bloodless coup and he is on an island in the south pacific. democrats in a feeding frenzy over the jeff sessions controversy. and one democratic congressman joins us with reaction straight ahead. if a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria.

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for the rez areination of jeff sessions. senate minority leader chuck schumer said this yesterday. >> because the department of justice should be above reproach for the good of the country are attorney general sessions should resign. >> jesse: but schumer had a different reaction after loretta lynch had a highly controversial tarmac meeting with bill clinton. >> she said nothing was discussed relating to the investigation. you have a choice to say it didn't matter or she's lying. i don't think she's lying. >> jesse: you are my congressman and i have to put you on the spot here. your fellow new yorker. >> did you vote for me or not. >> jesse: i did not. i am not afraid to say it.

your colleague, a new york guy said one thing about loretta lynch and takes her at her word but doesn't take a former colleague jeff sessions at his. hypocritical. >> no, it is not my focus. jesses jess it is my focus. are you dodging. >> it is a distinction between the two. there was not a question of jeff sessions or loretta lynch perjurying and it didn't involve the russians. >> jesse: i will let you slide because you are my congressman and i am terrified of you. you for the problem solver caucus. >> problem solver caucus. >> jesse: where do you see

common ground on president trump? >> there are republican and democrats that are on the problem solver and our goal to try common ground and everybody is sick of congress not getting everything done. >> jesse: can you get along about p obamacare and help out with that. that is unravelling. >> we need to see the proposal from the republican ares. je >> jesse: it is top secret. >> we sent a letter to the president p talking about tax reform and infrastructure and those are two big areas that we talk about p common ground. >> jesse: tax reare form. top rate down and middle-class taxes cut. you have to agree that taxes are too high. we are paying half of our paycheck.

>> property taxes. >> jesse: we have state and federal taxes. 39 percent and 36 percent. they have to come down. >> bottom line tis clear as day that we need to lower the corporate tax and bring that money offshore back into the united states of america and i would like to see that invested in a massive infrastructure. >> jesse: what about about income tax? >> i am opposed to the income tax because our are district and all of new york state is a huge net donor to the federal government. we send more than we get back. and i encourage my democratic colleagues from new york and new jersey and connecticut and california. we are huge donors. >> jesse: and especially bill o'rielly. >> you know he voted for me. >> jesse: that is one of us.

infrastructure. this is a trillion dollar bill. we need new roads, bridges and the lie, long island express way a disaster. it takes me an hour and half to get there. i take the train but sometimes i have are to drive. >> everyone agrees there is a deficit in infrastructure investment in the united states of america. it is not just roads, but sewer and waters and airports and it will create a lot of middle-class sdwloobs we need and economic activity. >> jesse: if p you can get your friend nancy pelosi with moderate proposals. can you bring her along. >> i think democrats and nancy pelosi are interested in jobs. >> jesse: why sd did she not

clap. >> it was interesting to see the clapping and not clapping. >> jesse: congressman, thank you very much. democrats claim that jeff sessions may have violated the law. are their claims over- exaggerated? we'll be right back with it. heartburn... all day and night. have we seen them before? banish the burn with nexium 24hr. could save money on car insurance.e in fact, safe drivers who switch from geico to esurance could save hundreds. so if you switch to esurance, saving is a pretty safe bet. auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call. there's nothing more than my vacation.me so when i need to book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to booking.com gets it. they offer free cancellation, in case i decide to go from kid-friendly to kid-free.

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>> jesse: the democrats demanding a legal investigation of jeff sessions. some of them complain that the attorney general committed perjury in the senate confirmations. are those accusations over blown? joining us johnathonatureley. professor, does sessions face a perjury charge, yes or no?

>> no it is not a close case. he was asked i question about campaign involvement with the russians. and he answered that question and went beyond what the question is about it. and he answered the question and i haven't had any contacts with the russians. it was inartful and turns out he's had contact with russian and should have corrected it. but that is not perjury. and the standard is for perjury to show intent. only six have been prosecuted for perjury in congress. the standard is difficult to meet. >> jesse: the next step is a special prosecutor. i think the democrats want a special prosecutor and what would that mean and why?

to do what? >> the odd thing about that. if you ask about a special counsel to be elected and the acting deputy attorney general could order that if they viewed it as a conflict for the department to handle the question. you have to articulate what they are investigating? >> jesse: what is the investigation? russian interference with the election and in cahoolts with the trump campaign? >> the problem we have no evidence of collusion. and the question is what is the crime? it is not a violation of interfering with foreign relations. there are no allegations with regard to that since the flynn episode and he was not charged with that. there is no money exchanged from the russian and so the question is what is the special counsel

going to investigate? say yeah we were hacked by the russians luke we hack other countries or name a nameless ghooi guy in st. petters burg. maybe evidence will come forward, but until it does, you are getting ahead of your skis on this. >> jesse: it seems like the problem the trump administration is having is not the contact but the said thing and in nothing else and then this dies. >> the white house hasn't been performing as well as it should. it is three beats behind. there should have been a clarifying letter that was sent and he is have recused himself. i don't know why it was not readily embraced. you can pull out your critical

people out of the investigation and they can focus on other thing and you don't have the drip, drip, drip of the controversy. i don't know why it was not recognized earlier and the white house said we'll be cool with the investigation and you can take it as far as you want to go. >> jesse: if the session's staff was competent as the factor staff they would have let him know it was hanging out there. next up on the run dawn. a wave of leaks. is the press instigating illegal acts by reporting on them. that debate is up coming.

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>> jesse: many in the mainstream media are unphased. >> we are getting great print coverage by the hour. trump didn't act on flynn until it was exposed by the press. the attorney general cannot recuse until it was in the papers. this is coming from somewhere else. >> jesse: joining us with reaction be. ronald kestler whose newest intook the first family detail now in paperback. and richard goodstein. so is the press doing its job or aiding and abetting illegal leakers, what do you think? >> it is revelations are not that big of a deal. whether flynn lied was not a surprise to the white house. this does compromise national security seriousesly. who wants to cooperate with the

cian and reveal terrorist plots that could wipe out millions of people with wmd attacks if they feel their secrets will not be confidential. you have a press out of control. ap, ran a story about the fact that cia had an asset in yemen revealing information about bombs going on planes coming to the united states that are not detected. there was no abuse or fail and you are the cia was doing the job and the ap, ran the story and the asset was gone and that could result in many deaths. you have a press out of control and arrogant. >> jesse: they are arrogant. richard, there were not that many exclusives and revelations coming out of the press. and just in the course of three

months, it is like every single day there is a front page splash breaking news in the print media. constant revelations and investigations. they are getting all of this stuff from somewhere. and the leakers are running wild and the press is loving it. >> yeah, a couple of things. first there were leaks in the trump campaign. hardly the doing of obama hold overs and the extent of hypocrisy. considering that trump extoiled the virtues of wikileaks. now his goose is getting cooked it was different. and third what is going on here, trump has whooper after whooper. it is one after another. and people in the administration, don't know that the truth will come out. they see the truth as trump's

enemy and people working for trump. maybe it works for him. >> jesse: the difference with wikileaks revelation that was john podesta talking trash and details about chelsea. these taped conversations between a national security advisor or conversations that president trump is having with leaders of mexico and australia are different. >> here's how it is the same. 17 intelligence agencies said that russians using wikileaks and other things were trying to subvert the u.s. election. and if it turns out paul manafort or michael flynn were talking with the russian and not just a coincidence that the wikileaks dropped an hour after the access hollywood tape came out. we don't know that yet, that is

tregz. >> hillary lost the election because of a being a terrible candidate. ron, respond to richard. >> eric holder made it difficult for the fbi to uncover the sources of the leaks. on one understand that is sensitive information. and eric holder imposed rule and making it difficult for the fib be fib, first of all, if they go after a press organization. they have to notify them before hand to challenge it in court. and secondly can't issue a search warrant against the reporter unless the reporter is under criminal investigation. holder tied the hands of the fbi. not based on the constitution or law passed by congress and that will make it more difficult. i was on the washington post on

watergate under ben bradley and there is no way he would have run the stories. >> president obama went after leaker and now all of the sudden trump has leak and he wants to plug them and he's a bad guy and trying to destroy the first amendment. obama goes after people it is leaker and trump it is whistle blowers. >> obama didn't say that. >> jesse: "fake news" is the enemy of the people and not the press. >> he said both. he initially said it was the media that was enemy of the people. and then he said "fake news". >> jesse: he means the fake doszier claims he was doing god knows what in a hotel room in russia which he never went to. thank you guys.

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with us with the o'rielly. i am jesse watters' in for bill o'rielly. going after criminal illegal immigrants, authorities in new york state indicted members of the brutal central american gang ms 13 on their murder charges. >> reporter: according to officials. ten are here illegally and two is u.s. citizen and one is a green card member. two are on the loose. it is unclear if it they will be deported. gang violence will not be tolerated. >> we'll keep the pressure on the ruthless gang and anyone who associates with them and spare no resource to accomplish that. >> jesse: they were charged in the murders of seven people including two high school girls last year.

ten of the 13 gang members are here illegally. joining us from san diego is the founders of the immigration advocacy border angels. and from washington bob dane on american immigration reform. details on the case in long island is vicious. beat these people up with baseball bat and machetes and sickening stuff. you would agree that getting rid are of criminal illegal alien gang members in the united states protects public safety, would you cede that? >> yes, i believe and the entire country believe be criminal people whether they are documented or not f. they are from another country they should be deported. the only person who does not agree is the criminal. >> jesse: where do you draw the

line. some people say a rape or murder. what about a dui. if an illegal is busted for a dui, they should go. >> they are undocumented people not illegal immigrants. >> jesse: it is the same. >> i know you like that hate rhetoric. >> jesse: it is not hateful. >> the majority of the country doesn't agree. but that is. >> jesse: i disagree with that. >> that's okay. that's fox news. >> jesse: we'll call it like i see. it that's fine. call it whatever youment >> if they are undocumented and break the law they should be punished according to the law. but the thing is that people who create the hateful crimes are citizens by a larger percentage percapita.

when someone is undocumented and caught for drunk drives and done something terrible that should be punished. but painting it they are doing it more. >> jesse: this is a vicious crime in my neck of the woods and involving gang member and it should be addressed. the knock against the trump immigration crack down, they are now going after immigrants that came here illegally, but haven't brokeningen the law sense. is it fair to go after those people and deport them? >> yeah, one of the legacies of the obama administration is have attempted to reprogram the way america things about immigration. we are supposed to think that violating immigration laws in and of themselves is

inconsequential unless you are a convicted felon or represent a national security threat. but we have laws on the books. and in terms of the gang violence, these are bad guy and they mean business. but this gang violence is a symptom of a broader issue. we have had eight long years of a lack of enforcement in every level of government in terms of immigration and increasing numbers of sanctuary cities where they are aiding and abetting and harboring illegal immigration. after eight years, you have massive illegal immigration and huge holes with the drug cartel and human p trafficker and criminal enterprises are exploiting. >> jesse: let's let enrique sdraesz that and it if you shut the sanctuary cities down,

wouldn't that reduce the criminal illegal alien activity in the cities? >> no, there is never been an increase in the undocumented increase in crime. >> jesse: no, no, no, no. in a lot of the sanctuary cities there are high levels of illegal alien activity. >> no, i don't agree with it. >> jesse: you have to. >> you are using a reference that is funded by eugenics. >> jesse: i am not using their statistics. look at san francisco. the fbi. the fbi says that in these sanctuary cities there is a higher rate of criminal illegal activity and if you are going to cities that don't allow sanctuary policies to exist you say there is more? that doesn't make sense. >> you are having a problem with

this. that's not what the fbi says. documented people do more criminal activity. >> jesse: americans commit crimes, too. but they stay in jail and don't get deported. but if p you are an illegal alien and you got to go. >> yes, they commit a crime they should be punished. if they qualify for deportation. most of the people that are here undocumented have no legal way of entering the country. it is not like when your father and mothers came. >> that is nonsense. there is legal ways. >> jesse: i got to run. a new study reveals how biassed the media has been against president trump, it is almost comical. we'll be right back. [ sighs ]

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>> bill: in the second segment tonight, the media covers president trump. the conservative media research center finds that during its first 30 days in office, a whopping 88% news on the mainstream networks were hostile. watch. >> there have been terrorist attacks that nobody knows about because the media chooses not to report them. it has been a busy day for president statements. >> jesse: joining us now from richmond, virginia, .

88%. that is pretty astonishing. that is almost 100%. what you take away from that? >> we should explain that it does not count partisan sources which mean it's trump speaking lawyer chuck schumer speaking. overwhelmingly, the people that you trust, the reporters themselves, sources of the american public overwhelmingly negative. this is the timing of presidency where the president of whichever party get some sort of a honeymoon. eight years ago we were still on "and that the obama girls got a dog." >> jesse: we know the rest of the marriage, if this is the honeymoon... i think divorce is right around the corner. the effect that this has come of this constant barrage of very negative attacks against the president. the american public, are they tuning this coverage out or

soaking it in? >> it obviously gives them some sense of unease. i think you saw when there was like this little pause after his speech to congress, there is a sense of relief like oh, we won't be slammed for 12 hours. we found the same thing in the fall. 80% negative coverage in the last few weeks of the campaign and he won. i think he can govern with it but still the question is, how do these people suggest this is fair and balanced? i don't think this is the case at all. you don't have to be 88% hostile to hold the president accountable. >> jesse: you said something interesting. he did win it despite the overwhelmingly negative coverage. i am wondering if the mainstream media bias almost helps the president. it is so vicious and bad and then you have these fake news stories that you can point to

aunt stacy, this is what i am up against. the people and i are running against this hateful media machine. it is us against them. does that kind of boost his credibility with the rest of the american public? >> i think it does, i think they have this idea that trump criticizing the liberal media is something he just does for his base and this can't possibly work with independent voters, people in the middle people. we saw the results of the election. i think it's remarkable some of the approval ratings we've seen for him in these first few weeks. you'd expect it to be much worse trying to watch the way the television networks go after hi him. >> jesse: i did not even think people believe the approval ratings anymore. they were so wrong in the run up to the election and his numbers were supposedly terrible. he won over electoral votes.

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>> jesse: in the back of the book segment tonight, it has been a roller coaster week for the trump administration and next week could prove even more critical. joining us now from washington with their perspective, bob cusack, editor in chief of the hill. and aaron. what is the biggest news of the week besides jesse watters hosting "the factor"? >> the joint address to congress

because he rose to the occasion, he was presidential, there was a lot of concern especially on capitol hill and from republicans, on whether or not he could do that. he reached out to democrats, he gave a message of unity and he talked about a number of issues that democrats actually care about. infrastructure, paid family leave. the child care tax credits. immigration reform. some of those messages were really important and a lot of democrats, even chuck schumer, were speechless. >> jesse: making chuck schumer speechless is quite a accomplishment. >> jesse, i think the sessions thing a bit overshadowed the speech but i think history will look back at the speech and i agree with aaron, it was very measured and gave them some much needed momentum. now that they have to do some heavy lifting. i liked the speech.

>> jesse: okay, so erin, there's some huge story that breaks every week. any surprises next week? >> what did overshadowed this week, what came out about jeff sessions and other details in the russian probe, in that story, tell us that next week will be a huge week for them. we know that obama officials tried to preserve all of its intelligence about russian officials meeting with the trump campaign aides and i think that tells us that so many more details are going to come out and that is going overshadow everything else. knocked off was -- no question in my mind we will see more details come out about russia. >> jesse: maybe we will find more democrats had lunch with the ambassador. bob, what is your prediction for

next week? >> i think it is obamacare. paul ryan and at the white house are putting the finishing touches on repeal and replace, it will be very difficult to pass because sums conservatives want different things than the white house. the republicans have to unify. as you know they will not get any help. a big moment next week. we could see a bill as early as next week. >> jesse: the per republicans are not unifying, yet senators walking out because they were not allowed to see the tax of this obamacare repeal. why is it the biggest secret in washington? except the obamacare bill, they have been great about everything. >> i think these decisions are so hard. the taxis and medicaid expansion. they are going one direction and the conservative freedom caucus wants to go in a different direction. and ted cruz. republicans do not have a lot of votes they can lose. you have to unify or this does not happen.

>> jesse: erin, you said it will be russia. bob, you said it will be obamacare. whoever loses has to buy the other person dinner, okay? >> i like it. >> jesse: thank you very much, i really appreciate it. quick reminder, do not forget to catch my show, "watters' world." here is a sneak peek. >> i don't believe that you would denigrate the service and a sacrifice of the family by accusing her of being a pawn for the president. he would not say that to her face, would you, john? >> sure, absolutely. >> jesse: if you would actually say that to her pace he would probably get slapped in the face. >> jesse: "watters' world" airs at 8:00 p.m. eastern, right here on the fox news channel. bill o'reilly loves the show so much, he dvr said.

if he can work the dvr. be sure to check it out. the only time bill has ever seen "watters' world" was when he was a guest on "watters' world" ." bill, if you were watching, i did not mean that. there is a new contributing factor podcast available featuring former navy seal discussing trumps national security team and you can find that on billoreilly.com or on itunes. and that is it for us tonight. bill is still in hiding. he is down in some island in the pacific, where we are keeping him. the coup has been underway. "watters' world" has taken over "the factor." you may never see phil again. he may enjoy the vacation so much he may never return. i think a lot of people would be happy, especially me. just kidding, bill. we love you. thank you very much for watching this very special edition of

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