877-225-8587. that is all the time we have left this evening. hope you set your dvr. thank you for being with us. to foxnews.com/special report. >> martha: breaking tonight, a flurry of activity today on capitol hill. members of republican leadership finds himself on defense, at odds with members of their own caucus and angry constituents after the rollout of their new health care law. i'm shannon bream in for martha maccallum on this, day 47 of the first 100. g.o.p. attempting to make good on years of promises, but right now, it is looking like an uphill battle as legislators from the conservative wing of the party have come out swinging against the leadership bill. >> there are three plans out there. there is the collins plan, if you like obamacare, you keep obamacare. there is the leadership plan that was brought forward, which

i believe, when you look forward, is obamacare in a different form, and then there is our plan, the one that i think is consistent with what we told the voters we were going to do. >> conservatives have a replacement plan. house leadership has a replacement plan. i'm sure democrats would like to vote on the aca again. the only way i think this gets done is to separate the issues. >> within the house in the last 24 hours, not the obamacare replacement, not the obamacare repeal plan we have been hoping for. this is, instead, a step in the wrong direction, as much as anything, a missed opportunity. >> shannon: you just heard clearly, not the way the president sees it. here he is earlier today. >> we are going to work quickly, i really believe are going to have tremendous support. i'm already seeing the supports not only in this room, i'm seeing it from everybody.

but when we have got legislators from the same side of the aisle but different sides of the debate, house ways and means committee, kevin brady, the architect, is here to defend the bill while senator mike lee, one of the most vocal critics joins us in just minutes. first, let's go to capitol hill to make a manual on how this dramatic fight unfolded today. mike? >> tomorrow, the work begins as two key committees -- kevin mccarthy, and chairman greg walden all began the full-court press to try to get their colleagues to support this plan. house speaker paul ryan made this prediction. >> we will have 218 votes. we've got a few weeks, we will have 218 when this comes to the floor, i can guarantee you that. >> on the other side, vice president mike pence had lunch then spoke with reporters saying the white house is

embracing this legislation. >> the president and i believe that the american health care act is the framework for reform. we are certainly hoping for opo improvements and legislations. but this is a a numerically bi. >> saying lawmakers want answers first from the nonpartisan congressional budget office saying, "the american people and members have the right to know the full impact of this legislation before any vote in committee or by the whole house." and late afternoon, some prominent conservatives said there is a split. >> we are divided. we have to admit, we are divided on replacement. we are united on repeal, but we are divided on replacement. >> >> ryan said later today, getting things done is never easy, adding that lawmakers will keep their promise to the

american people. shannon? >> shannon: thank you very much, mike. here now, senator mike lee who spoke out with other members of the caucus. good to see her tonight. >> good to be with you. >> shannon: to be with you, are you for repeal but not yet replaced? >> i am for repeal. we've been waiting for seven years, we waited for the election in 2010 where we got the majority in the house. in 2014, the majority in this sense. 2016, we've now got a republican in the white house as a result of that election. this is not the repeal bill that we have been waiting for. this is a huge opportunity that has been missed. it is a step in the wrong direction. what we need to do is repeal the bill. enter a step-by-step process, one in which we can put the american consumer and patients and doctors back in charge of their own health care decisions rather than having them made by government bureaucrats. >> shannon: you know there is immense pressure from those on the right to say, listen, we

elected you to do this. president campaigned on this. we need it done now. is your sense from the leadership that crafted this, feel like it's the best way forward, do you feel like they're under pressure to act quickly and maybe they are moving ahead in a way that you think is not the best policy? or do you think they are very sensitive to the criticism that, hey, yeah, we all wanted want t as far as replacement, we're not quite ready for that. >> i'm don't work for them and i'm not going to speak for them. what i am for and what i think the american people who elected republicans all over the country want, and that is for us to actually repeal obamacare. they want this law repealed. and that is what we want to do. we passed a bill only about 15 months ago in which all the republicans in the house and senate voted for it, we put it on president obama's desk, president obama vetoed it. we promised, give republicans a chance to govern, we will pass

the same thing, we will get signed into law. that's what we need to do. >> shannon: people looking at this, saying repeal first, repeal only, going to live millions without a plan. if we put off the replacement part of this, going to be just like all the funding. it won't get done on time and we will have another crisis where we get to the end of this perio period. it looks like millions of people are going to be left with nothing. >> shannon, the problem with that talking point is that it's false. it ignores the fact that there is a two-year implementation provision that would give us more than enough time that we need to figure out what comes next under obamacare. the other problem with that talking point is that it basically plays into a similar mindset that nancy pelosi used seven years ago when obamacare was passed when she famously or infamously, by now, and said, in essence, you've got to pass this thing to find out what's in it. what we want is to avoid the same mistakes that were made

when the affordable care act was passed into law, when it was crafted by a small handful of lawmakers and staff behind closed doors, brought forward, rushed through without adequate input from the american people, this 2700-page comprehensive bill. i'd like to move forward with a step-by-step process to bring about the reforms we need. so when do you have any real hope, yes or no, that you will be able to stop this freight train? >> i have every hope that we can do it if the american people will engage in say, do what you promised to do, repeal obamacare. >> shannon: senator lee, thank you for your time. here now to respond, congressman kevin brady is the chairman of the house ways and means committee and one of the architects behind this brand-new health care bill. chairman, thank you for your time, you have worked very hard to hammer this out. you have a lot of skeptics out there, let's talk about first on the right, heritage action fund saying this, unfortunately, the

proposal does little to fix the massive issues created by obamacare or to lower the cost of health care for the average american. the new proposal not only accepts the flawed progressive of obamacare but expands on this. no surprise from the left, house minority leader nancy pelosi said that working families, people with disabilities, going to face big trouble, families across america are going to be pushed off their health coverag coverage. the joint committee on tax reports revealed. how do you move forward? >> this is to be expected. here's what i think. my conservative colleagues, they are not the opponents here. they have great ideas. in fact, many of their ideas are in the republican blueprint and this bill. the real opponent is obamacare, and those like nancy pelosi who continue to defend this partisan bill. i was at the white house earlier today, and with the president said was clear.

this is my bill, says president trump. this is our solution on repeal and replace. congress should act now, must act now, because the choice is clear, they trump repeal and replace or keeping obamacare. that is the direction we're headed right now. >> shannon: do you know, of rule has to be put together before you debate fails. i know the market process is going to start. we don't want to get too wonky for people at home. heard colleagues say they must be a process for amendment. they want to have an ability to make real import, change to this. will you allow that for the more conservative members of the g.o.p. to feel like they have a voice. >> first, we already have, have made major changes in response to not just conservatives like me but also throughout our republican congress to make sure we doing this the right way, repeal all the taxes, of the mandates, all the penalties, and the subsidies, actually be an two important things. restoring state control of health care so it can be could design for communities and

families, and for families. we'll continue to listen to good ideas to improve it. i'll say this paid senate republicans in the parliament they are, as the final say. we are counting on our warriors among our senate republicans to deliver as much as we can. >> shannon: how do respond to critics that say, this is just another entitlement plan, just redistribute wealth and make decisions for people but who is going to pay for blood. still a big plan that will cost a lot of money. and you've got jim jordan saying he's going to reintroduce his full repeal bill from 2016. >> we are building off of and embraced the bill we passed in 2015, president obama and assid flesh. take a look at the bill itself. it repeals all the taxes, mandates, penalties, subsidies. this is obamacare gone, and

there is no arguing about that. on the replacement part of this, we are moving forward with state control in restoring the estate market and everything that senate republicans can help deliver for us in this bill. but this won't be the last step. we have to go farther than this. that will require hard work for republicans and conservatives together. and that, at the end of the day, steps two, three, and four are going to be critical too prays for one speaker ryan says he's going to get the 218 votes. chairman brady, thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> shannon: don't miss "hannity" tonight. health and human services secretary tom price full joint sean to discuss this. tonight, 10:00, fox news channel. just days after president trump enclosed president obama of spying on him, a blow, a very big one time matt, to the u.s.

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>> shannon: breaking tonight, two big stories rocking the u.s. intel community, just days after president trump accused president obama of spying on him, the powerful house intelligence committee announcing plans to probe those claims in open hearings. plus the cia is reportedly hearing after wikileaks exposes what it calls the agency's secret cyber arsenal. here on all of that, karl rove and a former advisor to president george w. bush, he has defended clients ranging from members of congress to covert officers. we begin here on this staggering

leak we are told of legit cia information. >> the scope is breathtaking. the damage may go far beyond previously related to diplomatic cables, this batch of cia documents known as vault seven suggests there has been spying on everyday americans. the cia using special tools to break into smart forms, computers, samsung tvs, to turn our technology into listening devices, bypassing encryption on messaging services, tapping into smart tvs even when they are turned off to send conversations to a secret server. a veteran cyber estimate expert told james rosen, there is heavy bleep going on in the cia as they scramble to figure to give this to wikileaks. no less than edward snowden believes it is real, still working through the documents, but it looks authentic. all coming amid

president trump's charges he faced surveillance. today, hillary cohen's campaign manager told fox he had knowledge of wiretaps being used during the campaign, but he suggested they were targeted at russian officials, not directlyt trump tower. >> the facts are that trump aids were caught talking to russian agents, and those conversations were captured because the intelligence community regularly taps the phone lines of those russian agents. >> pay special attention to this part of the new wikileaks story. another cia program, known as bridge, a giant library that they have gathered from russia and other countries. this program allows the cia to hide the origin of their own cyber attacks, raising questions tonight about whether the cia could have launched some of these cyber attacks last year and made it appear like someone else was behind it all. shannon? >> shannon: very intriguing questions. here now, karl rove and mark

stayed. welcome to you both, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> shannon: the cia will not comment on the authenticity of these documents, whether they are legit or not, but, mark, that sounds terrifying to the average american, when you think they could be watching me through my smart tv even when it is turned off. >> that is true. i think for the average american, they probably are concerned. for those of us that worked in this arena, the tech arena, legal arena, intelligence, not anything that knew quite frankly. we knew of these vulnerabilities for many years, and i think i'll take one somewhat difference with what ed had said, i don't think there is any indication that i have read about so far that they cia was using this on americans. now, american products, yes. if they were using it on americans, that is a bigger and different story. what we know is, they were exploiting vulnerabilities and products to do with they were

supposed to do, spy on the enemy. >> shannon: karl, the question concern becomes, they are going to watch sometimes, walking around in front of your tv not dressed straight out of the shower, the possibilities for abuse of this technology raises a lot of questions. >> i agree with your other guests. this is likely to have been used domestically with the cia. two issues here. one is, if this information is accurate, and i believe it is, all of our available range of tools have been laid out here for our opponents abroad to understand their vulnerabilities. second of all, the obama administration made an agreement that would notify american companies of vulnerabilities and their software and hardware so that they could repair those things. apparently maybe that wasn't done. maybe they continued to exploit these weaknesses on an iphone

or samsung or other kind of a phone so they could gather intelligence from people abroad. didn't tell companies that you have a problem with your operating system or hardware. >> shannon: mark, karl points out that maybe our enemies could find of the message we are using to gather intel on them. what about our allies? do you think they are going to be worried or have concerns that they are going to want to race to the u.s. government over these disclosures? >> some of the documents indicated that we were doing this with the brits, usually who we are operating with. we don't know, we get these types of documents, we only have the window into what these documents allow us to see. so karl is accurate. we don't know whether the u.s. government was telling their tech companies of these vulnerabilities. maybe they weren't, and if they want, there will probably be

some issues that will have to be taken up by that. but there probably were. same thing with what we are doing with our allies. i presume they were sharing some of these vulnerabilities with our allies on legitimate operations. the problem with this leak, because wikileaks is not -- this will enable our enemies to exploit vulnerabilities against the suspect. those countries are going to have known about these, i'm sure they have their own programs. other countries that don't have as much of a robust operation or even just the hacker down the street who now has been given some guidance that, like you said, i can turn my neighbor's television on and perhaps watch someone walking by. those are the fears now that i would have come up much more so than the cia watching what i'm doing at home. >> shannon: karl, what do you make of this with wikileaks. there are those who say, they are exposing things. apparently a source, and they haven't expose the source,

somebody with access to this information about the should be a public dialogue, the public should know that these capabilities are out there, the cia is using them, and they wanted to spark that conversation. it sounds a lot like what we heard from edward snowden. wikileaks, good guys are bad guys? >> bad guys. i agree with mark. all you need to focus -- do is look at the statements made by their founder, assange, hates the united states, our values. you mentioned something about to return to. you ask about our allies reaction to this. if i were some of the other major intelligence services that cooperated with united states, our cooperation and methods and sources of intelligence compromised, can it be easily compromised. if they lost to these gems so easily maybe they will lose the others in which they would be similarly compromised. speak new mexico and karl, mark,

thank you very much. >> thank you. >> shannon: up next, president trump attempts to make a deal with planned parenthood, telling the organization that if they want federal dollars, they can just stop doing abortions. we will have a representative here from planned parenthood who talks about the group's refusal. and then a debate about the public. plus, president trump sets off controversy by suggesting president obama is allowing gitmo

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>> shannon: president trump on defense tonight after an early morning trade suggesting his predecessor is solely to blame for once-gitmo detainees returning to terror. "122 vicious prisoners, released by the obama administration room gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. just another terrible decision." hi, trace. >> here is what we think later this. "fox & friends" did a story about a former guantanamo bay detainee released by

president obama who was killed this weekend at a air strike in yemen. the story went on to say that the man was let out of gitmo even though department of defense recommended he stay behind bars. "fox & friends" then ran a factoid saying 22 prisoners released from guantanamo bay returned to the battlefield. at 7:04, president trump sent out the tweets lumping all 122 of those former bob dane prisoners as being released by obama, but the director of national intelligence says of the 122 let go, 113 or released under president george w. bush. only nine under president obama. and overall, about 21% of prisoners released during the bush administration went back to terrorism versus 6% of those released during the obama administration. here is white house press secretary sean spicer trying to clarify the president's tweet.

watch. >> obviously, the president meant in totality the number that have been released on the battlefield, that have been released from gitmo -- since individuals have been released. so that is correct. >> except for the part about blaming mr. obama and not mr. bush. we should note, george w. bush explained in his memoir that he released prisoners because, "the detention facility had become a propaganda tool for our enemies and a distraction for our allies." of the 122 former detainees who returned to terrorism, 30 are now dead, 25 back in custody, 67 are still thought to be action. shannon? >> shannon: quite a recidivism rates. trace, thank you. using the twitter feed to open up new lines of attack. that includes illinois senator durbin who went so far as to suggest mr. trump is destroying the credibility of the office through social media.

>> donald trump is destroying the credibility of the office of president 140 characters at that at a time. this charge he has made about some wiretapping before the election without a scintilla of evidence, no evidence whatsoever, been refuted not only by the former president but also the former director of national intelligence and the head of the federal peer of investigation. >> shannon: joining me now, political columnists, and director of georgetown's institute of politics, both pop fox news contributors. good to see you tonight. i want to start with you, is this an unforced error? the president knows that the left is going to be coming after him all the time, why not be super extra duper extraordinarily careful? >> he does have the finest intelligence services at his fingertips, could probably get a lot of really great information

if he took a minute and tried to get it. the bottom line is, the underlining thing here, gitmo is a place that the past president, president obama wanted to shut down, he campaigned on shutting it down, this just highlights the seriousness of the situation and the need to have a place like gitmo in order to retain some of these people who want to commit against the united state united states. and also, the other thing that i find kind of interesting about this. president trump has never had any qualms whatsoever about not only going after barack obama and democrats but he also goes after republican and george w. bush policies. i don't know that that's so much of a big deal as it is the fact that, you know, donald trump won the election promising to fight to the campaign terror with the utmost vigor, and i think that that is a much bigger issue than

under who it was that certain detainees got released. >> shannon: but, mo, this has to be a gift to the left, that conversation about gitmo, gets lost 25 thinking, this is another "saturday night live" skit. >> yeah, if you want to have a conversation, a debate over gitmo policies, totally legit. we should have that debate, we should have that conversation. but because of this presidents itchy trigger finger, he keeps feeding into a narrative that i think it is borne out by the fact that he doesn't know the fact, that he is willing to play fast and loose with the truth, when you look at the past several weeks and months whether it is this issue, whether it is the debunked claim about the president wiretapping him,

whether it is the debunked claims about widespread voter fraud, these are all issues that are demonstrably false. he can engage -- charlie was, always work there trying to bring it back to the issue that the actual policy debate, we can have those policy debates, but when you are playing fast and loose with the truth, it feeds into the narrative that this is a president who will say whatever it takes to score political points. >> shannon: charlie, there are nuggets of truth in each of the things that mo pointed out. words matter. even if there is truth to some other situations, it gets lost in the misinformation. should there be someone pre-approving the tweets? i don't think he would approve to that -- agree to that. he loves giving people access to him, and again to millions of

votes. >> people in the press, i will never understand why they keep wringing their hands saying he needs to stop tweeting, it is highly entertaining. and it is important, there is always a kernel of truth to these things, i would say far more than that in a lot of cases, in the case of whether the president or his claims about blogging trump tower, that was based on a newspaper story that has not been debunked. and remains out there, that intelligence officials got fisa court approval. >> shannon: to people who will say the word wiretapping has never been used, at least in part by president obama through a spokesman. again, when you have to parse those facts, it takes away. >> he has always been very article the way he uses colloquial words. i realize it gets him into

trouble, but it is also part of the genius. >> shannon: we've got to go. i know mo is not going to agree to anything involving genus and donald trump, but millions out there well. we've got to leave it there. thank you both so much for your time tonight. we'll regulation nation soon be a thing of the past? while democrats and members of the media are concerned with the twitter feed, the president is wasting her time in getting things done, taking an ax to the heart of regulatory -- plus, president trump offered planned parenthood a deal. they said, no thanks. telling us why they rejected his offer. and then a debate on the repercussions. repercussions. that is ♪ hey hon, we gotta go. c'mon. ♪

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am pro-life. >> shannon: that was then-candidate trump. president trump offered planned parenthood a deal, don't do abortions, keep your federal funding. they quickly refused to that offer. in a moment, we will be joined by representatives of planned parenthood. we have a dana and crystal ball, the author of a new book, going to tell you all about that book, i noticed going to be awesome. there it is, "reversing the apocalypse." thank you both for joining us. all right, do you think that the president thought they would potentially take the deal? it wasn't floated publicly. do you think the public conversation, there was any of the legit chance they would take it? >> absolutely not. as the president pointed out, abortion is not core to what they do in terms of the number

of procedures, about 3%. >> "the washington post," not a conservative rag by any of stretch of the imagination, give that 3 out of 4 four noses on e pinocchio scale. >> while there's not core to the services they provide, it is core to their values and that they believe women should have access to the full range of medical care, including abortions. so this analogy is not perfect, but it would be a bit like going to a jewish hospital and saying, we'll keep giving you federal funding as long as you stop doing circumcisions. it is important to their values and their belief system. >> all right, dan, a lot of people have no moral objection to circumcision, they do have objections to abortion, the country is pretty evenly split, and even though federal funding is not allowed to go to federal

procedures, there are those who have doubts about the fungibility of the money. >> exactly, to your point, shannon, if it is only 3% of the services offered, then what is the big deal about eliminating that in order to continue receiving those valuable taxpayer dollars. to me, it seems like an easy decision to make. unfortunately, that is a little bit of fuzzy math. i think the example to highlight this, like saying you are going to a baseball game to watch baseball, but because you buy a hotdog, it looks like major league baseball is just in the business of selling hot dogs. that's the bulk of what they do. it is weird and how they counted. you are right, there are number of entities that say that that number is completely false. more so, sessile richards said herself that 86% of planned parenthood's revenue comes from abortions. this is a for-profit business that should not be receiving

federal funding. fungibility is a point with this, given planned parented $500 million annually, allows them to continue this abortion mill business and they are running. without that, they wouldn't be able to run the abortion bill business. your other businesses that proe full amount of health care suit suite. >> let me jump in there. >> are you okay then with the money -- the plan that the g.o.p. is posing is to redirect the money to federally approved health care centers that provide all of those things, cancer screenings, all those things, but without abortion, what is he objection? >> the problem is, planned parenthood operates in roughly 400 counties in the united states, out of those, in 100, no other clinic that offers, in particular, access to

low income women for contraceptive services. one of the things we have seen, a huge decline in the rate of abortion that has been tied to increased access to contraception. in a way, you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. this has been successful in reducing abortions, particularly for low income women when they don't have access to birth control. >> i'm sorry, but we want to make sure that we bring -- we have a special guest with us, executive vice president for planned parenthood. i'm assuming that the deal that was made by president trump was dead on arrival. >> i didn't really hear a deal exactly, i heard a disaster for women's health care, and i also heard a white house that is very, very concerned about taking away birth control, std testing, and cancer screening for millions of women in this country who don't have anywhere else to get those services. >> but if they can go to the other federally qualified health care centers, 700,

roughly, planned parenthood clinics, more than 9,000 others that do those screenings, but without abortions. is it accurate to say women would have nowhere else to go? >> it is. the head of the american public health association called the claim that planned parenthood patients could go to federally qualified health centers all over the country ludicrous, and federally qualified health centers have come at themselves, said, hey, we are already overrun with patients. we have four weeks, eight to become a 12 week weight. and a woman who has a lump in her breath or needs birth control can't wait eight weeks or 12 weeks to get an appointment. >> those clinics serve more than 20 million patients last year, ul served less than 3 million, a lot of clinics say they do have the space for it, that they are spread out all around the country, so let me ask you though, if the president is saying, you're getting $500 million of government funding every year, if you give

up something that you claim is only 3% of your business, why couldn't you still operate? why not take that deal? strictly about making sure that you stay on the abortion business? >> we believe that women in this country deserve the full range of reproductive health care including safe, legal abortion, and we are committed to providing the full range of services. two things i want to say, rather a qualified community health centers are our partners. they refer people to us, we refer people to them. this is a patchwork quilt of trying to take care of, especially low income people in this country. secondly, let's just talk about how planned parenthood gets federal funds. the whole term defunding is very misleading. planned parenthood does not get a publishers clearinghouse check for $500 million. we are not a line item in the budget, we get reimbursed for services. just like a hospital actually.

>> we got to leave it there because were out of time, but that is federal, local, state taxpayer money. a lot of people have objections to that. but we know it, federally, under the law, none of that is supposed to be going to abortions. still ahead, the democrats in the media focus on the intrigue, inside 1600 pennsylvania avenue, the administration has quietly and methodically sent regulation nation reeling. join with that liberty mutual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. liberty did what? yeah, with liberty mutual all i needed to do to get an estimate was snap a photo of the damage and voila! voila! (sigh) i wish my insurance company had that... wait! hold it... hold it boys... there's supposed to be three of you... where's your brother? where's your brother? hey, where's charlie? charlie?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you. liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance

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>> shannon: over the course of his campaign, president trump promised to reduce the redtape in washington, and it seems he's starting to make good on that pledge. more than 90 regulations have reportedly been delayed, suspended, or revoked since mr. trump took office, that is part of more than 20,000 regulations put into place under the obama administration. let's talk about it with wally hemingway and jess qatar love, welcome to you both. molly, he promised he was going to do this, one of those things he can kick turn, a lot of by executive order, but it's interesting to note that "the hill" reported today, a lot of democrats that voted for

these, crossing the aisle on this. >> there are many reasons to oppose the growth of the regulatory state, as you noted, 20,000 regulations during obama's presidency, 100,000 pages added to the federal register, it strangles the economy, limits economic opportunity, and disproportionately affects low-income americans. this is something they can't afford in an economy that has been struggling for quite some time. >> shannon: jessica, during the campaign, then having candida trump said that he would want to get in place but we have now, the two-for-one, got to get rid of some if you're going to get new ones, he said he would keep things in place that protected safety and health. i know you don't think he's been faithful to that. >> no, i don't. i think this was a campaign promise he made for his base. molly is correct in saying that the majority of americans do think we are overregulated, but not in all areas, americans think environmental regulations

are for the extra costs. i don't know how to makes americans safer or better off to the americans with mental illness have access to handguns. >> shannon: talking about a regulation of the house got rid of, congress got rid of, would have required the social security commission to report people for certain things. a lot of people, if you're going to take away secondment read, you've got to have due process. >> i understand it was a congressional vote here and republicans have control of the congress at this moment, sign with the nra is the post the safety of americans, we can debate this all day, saying this isn't just straight off, getting rid of the excess fat. there are things that he's taking away that are feeding the, ," swamps, that he said he was going to take care of. >> shannon: mollie, is he making things more dangerous? no. the environmental regulations to determine that if you have some

pond water, all this i need to be regulated by the epa and epa and they can seize your property. this is the actual regulatory state that people are fed up with, and it is harming the economy. if you have regulations at the level that they were in 1980, you would have more than $13,000 for every man, woman, and america in addition to what we have right now. these are real costs that are really harming americans. again, we're not in a place where we can handle this. >> shannon: 15 seconds. >> not having to reassess when they violated worker safety laws, allowing them to keep that secret, as it were. how does that help anyone. that's what i don't understand, i understand there's some have gone overboard, but you've got to see that this two-for-one idea is ridiculous. >> deal with the millions the regulations. >> shannon: we will be right back on the

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>> shannon: we started the show tonight talking about what many see as the split within the g.o.p. on the issue of obamacar obamacare. ♪ >> tom: welcome to "red eye," hello everyone, i am tom shillue. let's check in with tvs andy levy at the "red eye" tease deck. >> andy: coming up on the big show, a former government official provides wikileaks with secret hacking information. i would like to state for the record that i have no idea who it is. as a ninth wave feminists, i have no use for this, but it should be great for tom.