finally, he breaks the silence with us on fox business tomorro tomorrow. andrew puzder wants to set the record straight, and he will. and so will we. we only think that's fair and balanced. andy, tomorrow. >> eric: i'm eric bolling with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, meghan mccain and brian kilmeade. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five" ." house speaker paul ryan came out again today to defend a new plan to replace obamacare, seeking the calm concerns of summon his own party. >> it is bold and long overdue and it is as fulfilling our promises. this is the conservative wish list. look at what this bill does. appeals obama carries taxes,

repeals obamacare's spending, medicaid expansion. repeals the mandates on individuals and businesses. and funding for planned parenthood. we know it's going to make a positive difference in people's lives. >> eric: speaker ryan is confident the bill will get past even though not all republicans are behind it, but that is rich considering he needs 218 votes. there are 237 republicans in the house but the house freedom caucus votes is a block, all 29 of them. do the math, it won't pass without the freedom caucus. in the senate, the bill needs 50 votes. right now they have 58. rand paul, among others, is not a fan. >> the current medicaid is unfunded we are going to add new entitlement programs. you say the federal government is going to pay for it? the federal government has no money. it is dishonest accounting. >> it is akin to christmas where the oratory is a pretty ribbon

and nice wrapping paper but he opened up the present and is a lump of coal. that's what this bill is. it's the largest welfare program ever proposed by republicans in the history of the republican party. it is going to be disastrous for our deficit and debt long-term. >> eric: president trump will talk health care with g.o.p. leaders of that white house and there is a word he will start traveling to stump for the new plan. here's more from his spokesman. >> we are going to have a full court press. local media, local television to get the message to the american people. to talk about the things we talked about yesterday. why we have a crisis right now in health care and why obamacare is failing. secondly, why the solution that the president has worked on is the right one to bring down costs and reinstitute choice. >> eric: all right, k.g. speaker ryan called it a conservative wish list. i am a conservative. i didn't see a lot of it that i am wishing for. >> kimberly: doesn't make your

christmas list or birthday list? speaker took out >> eric: there are a lot of things that will be incorporated in phase two and phase three. they are asking us to make a leap and other things will make it into the ball. that is up for conjecture. >> kimberly: you are right. they're going to say partner with us and they're going to try to make the case and they need someone who can do the job. nobody's gonna be able to make the case and so far what i've heard and seen, except for president trump. he's going to have to really push this with his base as part of his movement to say we are on the right track. this is getting done. charles krauthammer had said republicans can't get everything they want but what's the philosophy and reasoning behind stage one, stage ii, stage iii? the piecemeal approach. they had such a reckoning that delivered them the house and senate, the oval. if not now, when?

>> eric: do like the bill? >> kimberly: i am trying to warm up to it. >> eric: elections in 2010, 2014, largely on the dislike of the american people for obamacare. do the republicans risk the same change back the other way? >> bob: exactly. you can tell a little bit about this who is for it and who is it against it. aarp, 40 of the top health care groups from new york to georgia, california. five republican senators, the heritage foundation. you've got to be kidding me. first of all, trump should not stomp on this. if they ask him a question, what's in the bill, he would have no idea. bob pointed something out.

there are a lot of conservative groups that don't like this. >> meghan: we are both in agreement that if the republicans blow it, there will be ramifications. can't overemphasize how important it is. if i were president trump, i would invite everyone from the freedom caucus. rand paul, mark sanford, all the people, the major players. what do we do to make this work? none of us want to hand over our political capital to the democrats. this lives and dies in the hands of the freedom caucus. >> eric: the freedom caucus came out yesterday afternoon and said here's what want to do. repeal. we will about replace later. there are a lot of people is that you've got to do them both. >> brian: he said let's repeal it then for two years, will work on it. everything stays in place until we change it. you know the markets better than anybody. the markets aren't going to love the uncertainty for the next two

years in between stimulus packages, infrastructure deals, tax cuts, building the wall. basically what i understand, not smart enough to fully digested but -- >> bob: you are still welcome here. >> brian: there was a series of guidance letters and regulations coming from the secretary of health and human services. now tom price is saying you know i love the charged to get out. give me some power. phase one is passing this. can't do it with 60 votes. >> eric: aren't they asking -- the houston senate to do the same thing -- the house and senate. you also have to consider. we are all hanging our hat on the fact that tom price will be there straight through the process, doesn't vary on what he said he promised to put in. that's a lot of faith.

>> meghan: you are asking republicans to do what democrats jammed down the throat. hold on it, we will amend it later. this is a work in progress but that's not good enough. i heard you say we've had six years to get this right and this is the best we can come up with? i don't go on faith in anything regarding politics whatsoever. as you said, the market could change things. god knows what could end up happening, especially if we lose the midterm elections. not good enough. >> brian: i would say -- >> meghan: you are not disappointed after six years that this is as good as it is? >> brian: they have to be practical. >> eric: six years. not only six years, four election cycles where you set obamacare so bad we've got to get the democrats out of the house and senate. the house flipped to republican, senate went republican preview got them out and you don't have a replacement.

>> kimberly: paul ryan said he's been working for 20 years on this. said he fought long and hard about it and this is what he put forward. they got the president to go ahead and a grave and i am just telling you. over and over again, we said free market. across state lines. >> eric: maybe we say it's worth its weight in paper. >> bob: one of the problems trump is going to have with the base in the off years, his vote was heavily rural and that's the lowest turnout in elections. the other thing is frankly how many republicans want to campaign for him? huge in certain areas. you say tom price read you can't hang something on the second like that. >> brian: that is just one guy. you have a lot of people with great ideas and the need to get them woven into the final plan. >> eric: are you saying you like this bill as it stands?

>> brian: the potential for this bill is good enough to do it, signage, amended. listen. >> eric: do you know how much this bill cost? >> brian: dinner tonight with ted cruz, phone calls to rand paul. get a cbo. i don't even trust the cbo. >> eric: listen, i love you. my problem is, we need to do this and figure it out later because this is the best we've got. no. no. we can do better. find out how much it's going to cost, find out who's not going to be on insurance. >> brian: legislatively if you repeal and then replaced, you need 60 votes. you are banking on switching seven democrats. that's a lot of faith. >> meghan: you are talking about warring factions of the republican party. i hope the freedom caucus and president trump can come together. at the end of the day, we are

republicans. trying to get something the everyone is more collectively satisfied. >> eric: i think this is the one -- one of the biggest issues. medicaid expansion. over the poverty level. >> bob: step back for a second. the players here are governors and in states that took the medicaid expansion there's a rule in washington, with the federal government gives you never take back. i am telling you, the idea that a republican governor out there who has a lot of people on federal medicaid dollars is going to -- >> brian: what if he ends up with a block grant? >> meghan: the entitlement culture democrats created

starting with obama. he has done a complete and total cultural paradigm shift. there's an expectation that health care is your right by the government. in 2017, he has effectively passed it straight the idea that you're going to remove entitlements from some people. >> eric: can i ask anyone at the table or anyone out there, show me one thing in this bill that reduces the cost of health care or health insurance. not one. show me one. competition for that's the only thing. there is nothing competitive in here right now for you know who gets the best break in this whole thing? not the american people, not the middle class, not young people are old people. insurance companies. under billion-dollar carve out over ten years to the insurance companies. republicans, conservatives, we have spoken paired we've talked, voted, we've run on exactly opposite principles of this this. >> kimberly: they are taking a bit of a neon it.

>> brian: he says block grants are coming. having insurance, you can get across state lines is coming. unless you don't believe donald trump, who tweeted it's coming, he did that yesterday. it's going to be woven into the bill. legislatively this is how it's got to be done. >> eric: they want to wrap us but i got to say this. donald trump says this is what i've been given for it he didn't come up with it. this is what i've been given but he's he's promised to repeal and replace. to say were not ready, will pull it back and do taxes and come back to it later. i'm sorry. >> kimberly: this is one of the biggest things in terms of the campaign and promises made early on. we saw that in a shift in the campaign, momentum. that's why people are disappointed.

they say this doesn't go far enough. seems a little bit like democra democrat. >> bob: donald trump said everyone is going to get insurance. >> kimberly: donald trump and president trump is a free-market guy. that one thing i was expecting and hoping for is increase the competition, bring the cost down to make it more affordable so that the insurance companies don't win. >> eric: can he make the flip? can he say sorry, i promise you this. >> brian: sorry? he's going to build off it. he's not going to say sorry. >> meghan: he can fix it. i think he should meet with the freedom caucus and come up with something. >> eric: speaker ryan going one-on-one with tucker carlson tonight. don't miss it. it's going to be great. 9:00 p.m. eastern. the latest, the breach of the cia. the feds have opened a criminal investigation and they have an idea who did the leaking. that's next.

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documents detailing the cia's alleged hacking operation. there are reports investigators are focused on contractors as the likely source of leaks. more now with catherine herridg catherine herridge. how much damage has been done so far? >> cia is not publicly commenting on the damage but you can see by the depth and breadth of the documents that it does reveal what appeared to be very significant tools for the cia. i think for some context, you have to see the loss of visibility in the context of the nsa. after the nsa leaks in 2013, there was more pressure, more reliance on the cia. ml you and now you have their secrets exposed. you have two agencies who have been poked in the eye, if you will, by hackers or an insider threats. >> kimberly: quite alarming.

bob. >> bob: the number of contractors has been a huge leap since 9/11. it's the right place to look there and we know it has happened once per you've got it spread out over more people. when i was in the white house, i had clearance but it was very limited. now there are a thousand people have access. >> i think the contractor issue, bob, you have hit the right note, is going to be one of the leading edges of the story. what we've seen is an explosion in the use of contractors and based on our reporting today at fox news, there are three scenarios under consideration. one is an insider or contractor. the second is that it was a cyber breach or network breach, and the third is that it was a combination of the two. i would point out that after the nsa contractor edward snowden leaked documents in 2013 that exposed government surveillance

on u.s. citizens, it was also posted by wikileaks. another contractor -- the same contractor maintained its contracts. hard to see how there was any kind of punishment for what happened in 2013. we may be revisiting the issue in 2017. >> eric: the documents shed some light on what the cia can or should be doing as far as surveillance. is there any indication on what we are learning from these leaked documents as to what went on at trump tower, whether anything happened and whether or not the proper procedures were followed. >> i'm not seeing anything yet and that documents i reviewed that shed a lot of light on the point, but if i could get another idea on the radar, when you look at these tools and capabilities that the cia has to take your phone and reverse engineer it so it becomes an

instrument capture audio and video, same thing with the internet connected appliances, even tv sets. this is the kind of thing that virtually every intelligence agency in the world is doing, they would expect that the u.s. is doing as well. i'm not so sure these are big secrets but we have limited how we can use them in the future. >> eric: there was some indication, i read something and didn't really understand it. have we lost that mall where? -- malware? >> there's two answers. one is that the cia and the cyber spying agencies are constantly losing these capabilities because every time a flaw as identified in one of these operating systems like the iphone, the android phone and they are patched, then they have to have to find a new way to get in.

they are constantly losing the cap ability and then regaining it in some other way or investigating how they can get into systems. the bottom line is that whenever you show your hand to the adversary about what you're capable of doing, and more specifically what you're targeting, you're really giving away a lot of information about your intentions, and that's really worth a lot to these countries. >> kimberly: megan. >> meghan: why now? the timing seems a little strange. is it to invoke further distrust between us and the intelligence community's? wide survey? >> i have spoken to a number of military intelligence and cybersecurity experts and what they've all pointed out is that there does seem to be a pattern. you look at the data points you see the thread that goes to wikileaks. in this case also in the 2013 documents from edward snowden and then recently with russia's

interference in our electoral process, you saw the leaked dnc emails and the podesta emails. they are all finding a home with wikileaks. the other question is who is benefiting? you can make a compelling argument that america's adversaries are benefiting, in particular russia because this undermines confidence in u.s. systems and it causes even more political tension and friction, which is something that damages our democracy, and that is what russia is aiming for. >> brian: i have not taken a course that allows me to speed read. it's a lot, and the worst could be to come. it's only part one, they say. people have said the one thing is clear, the bureaucratic infighting between the nsa and cia, that's all we need. >> beyond the allegation of infighting, what i would say is

after the 2013 snowden leaks, the nsa was damaged by those leaks. that is well understood. the cia, based on my reporting, picked up the baton in terms of cyber spying and really expanded its offense of capabilities. what we have now is two agencies that have been damaged by the attacks. first the nsa and now the cia. that's not a good situation to be in if you believe that there there is also inviting as well, that's another layer of trouble. dysfunction within the system. >> bob: all i can say is, please don't look at my videos. really, really. >> kimberly: i would like to know who keeps turning on the t tv. ahead, just the left have a double standard when it comes to

controversial comments made by republicans versus themselves? the answer is yes, and there's proof. next.

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here, there, everywhere. united states postal service priority : you ♪ >> brian: many on the left are having a lot of fun. mocking comments made by conservatives. we decided to dig deeper in the archives if there is a double standard. was that of same type of outrage on the left as there is today as there is on the right? first off, first thing. hud secretary ben carson, the doctor, versus the former president. listen. >> that's what america is about. a land of dreams and opportunity. there were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked longer and harder for less. >> certainly it wasn't easy for those of african heritage who

had not come here voluntarily, and yet in their own way were immigrants themselves. there was discrimination and hardship and poverty. >> brian: he said that 11 separate times over the course of eight years. here is another example. >> americans have choices and they've got to make a choice. may be rather than getting the new iphone they love or they want to spend hundreds of dollars, maybe they should invest in their own health care. >> what i would say is if you looked at that person's budget and you looked at their bill, telephone, cell phone bill, other things they are spending on, it may turn out that they haven't prioritized health care because right now everybody is healthy.nobody wants to spend mn health insurance. >> brian: so it's not what you say and how you say it. >> bob: that is as flat wrong

wrong -- first of all, that punk. >> brian: take the first one. ben carson. >> bob: one word ben carson did not get out of his mouth was in voluntarily. he didn't say it. obama said they involuntarily came on slave ships. carson didn't say that bread one word is a big difference. >> brian: they were immigrants and their own way was the follow-up. ben carson, also african-american, i didn't know if you notice. >> bob: didn't notice that prayed to >> eric: bob, are you suggesting immigrants came over here. are you suggesting immigrants weren't choosing to come over and the bottom of slave ships? >> bob: also said working for low wages. >> kimberly: you just got zapped.

the bug zapper blew up. you're making a distinction without a difference. you can't be able to parse words on it and say there's any material difference whatsoever. >> brian: meghan, let's get you in here. you understand parsing words. >> meghan: the proof is in the tapes you showed. both of these men are saying the same thing. i don't even remember the one clip with president obama with the slavery comments. i don't remember seeing that picked up on any new cycles. they are basically saying the same thing. there's a difference between sometimes how democrats say "i feel your pain," even if it's complete and total baloney. there is the media and the way they coverage. hillary clinton and the president -- the commentary about jason chaffetz was ridiculous. he said almost verbatim what president obama said.

>> brian: you know what it's like to be on a budget in your 20s. things are tight and you have to make tough decisions. my car, things for my apartment. president obama was trying to say coming in his defense, if you can't afford health care, look at your bills. >> kimberly: prioritize your expenses. what you decide to spend your money on. cell phones? >> meghan: if you're going to attack him, say his name correctly. >> bob: i don't care what his name is. the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. prioritized. >> kimberly: so all you are doing is making personal attack attacks? >> eric: you are doing exactly what you complained for eight years but the republicans did. you are portraying fake outrage. this is all fake outrage you are presenting. >> bob: there is no fake outrage when it comes to

chaffetz. >> eric: there is no way you can say that the definition of a slave is an african-american who came over here involuntarily. chaffetz said the same thing obama said about choosing between an iphone and may be and insurance. what you are doing is just as disingenuous as what you accuse republicans of doing. things obama already said. >> kimberly: only because it came out of the mouth of a republican in ben carson and so therefore bob got all juiced up. look what happened. >> brian: the chairman of the oversight committee is a wonderful guy with a bright future. meanwhile, straight ahead, , ana lot of women went on strike today to show up life would be like without them and what it would be like at work without them. even some lawmakers staged symbolic walkouts.

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we wont be able to understand what that day be like. >> meghan: the president tweeted he has tremendous respect for women and the many roles they serve that are vital to our society and economy. he asked all to join him to honor the critical role of women in america and around the world. kimberly, i'm going to start with you. both of us decided to show up today. i already spoke at length on this at "outnumbered." it is a female-centered show. it's unusual in news for women to outnumber men on panels. i find value in showing up at work. beyond that, they just said it's an anti-trump protest, anti-conservative protest and there are no republican women i can see involved in these protest paired why did you show up today? >> kimberly: i thank god every day that i have a job and i'm

able to work here at fox news and sit at the table with smart and passionate people who appreciate the jobs they have. as women, we are in a powerful position. and we choose to own it and live it and read that every day. by me sitting here, by you sitting here, that's making a strong statement and a statement to young women that can look up to us to say they can grow up to do anything they think about and believe in their hopes and dreams. get a good education, get a great job. i want to celebrate the advances women have been able to achieve in this country and hold ourselves up as an example to other countries around the world where women are oppressed. the best way to do that is by being here. >> bob: i agree with you. a day without women would be horrible. having said that, the fact remains the republican department of labor, it is $0.81

on the dollar for women and men. until it's equal, stay out. >> eric: what was hillary's campaign? $0.72? >> bob: you don't like statistics to run against you. >> eric: i just told you hillary was lower. military women didn't take the day off. law enforcement women didn't take the day off. most of the doctors and nurses didn't take the day off. newspeople didn't have a day off. can we have a day without i'm going to take the day off protests? >> meghan: another important point is this is tied up with anti-trump, anti-conservative, pro-choice movements. that's what modern feminism encompasses. for kimberly and i, we come on tv not talking live stale news domestic and foreign policy, it's an important job and the idea that i would be empowered t showing up, the messaging it

sends to young women is dangerous. >> brian: what about the schools that were closed? parents were working. all of a sudden they had to get daycare for their kids and not go to work in response. they were protesting sexual discrimination, discrimination in wages and harassment. i had no idea where it got to the point where we needed a massive walkouts. i also didn't think you needed madonna onstage telling us to burn the white house down. i guess i'm a little behind the times. >> eric: you are not joining the protest? >> meghan: you are pro woman. as long as it's lena dunham feminism, no. what does president obama think of president trump's controversial wiretapping claim?

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trump tower without any evidence at all. reportedly made president obama furious. let me ask. i said. i wore this tie yesterday to say anybody give me one piece of evidence that barack obama had anything to do with it, and you are all lying. the investigation. >> kimberly: he is so hysterical. there is so much yelling. he needs the miracle ear now. >> eric: the relationship between the two. >> brian: it's never been good. early on, barack obama was the recipient of a lot of components from donald trump. by 2009, the only thing barack obama said about donald trump, destroyed him at the white house correspondents' dinner. >> bob: he just called the former president of the

united states a bad and sick gu guy. >> brian the worst. i am talking about their relationship. their relationship right now is a bad relationship. but the the relationship barack obama had with his predecessor was nothing but disrespect. he dissed bush for seven years but he dated in an eloquent way so no one blames him. thaad never attacked president obama when he was office. right -- >> bob: how about some evidence. >> eric: hold on, meghan. >> meghan: president obama is going to be the most bitter ex-president we've ever had. not going to keep his mouth shut, going to do nothing but

attack the administration. complete and total opposite of bush. >> eric: are you contending there was not a wiretap? >> bob: i'm contending barack obama did not do -- president of the united states said -- >> eric: do you think trump tower was wiretapped? >> bob: i don't know. >> eric: i think they were. >> bob: that has nothing to do with -- >> brian: said he read transcripts of a russian with a trump worker from trump tower. he said we were reading this in october. were they bugging him? >> eric: what do you think made the intel department start these wiretaps? what were they looking for? 's do you know where they start? doj, loretta lynch.

>> bob: that's right. >> eric: it has to come from the fbi and cia. loretta lynch works with -- >> meghan: i'm sure people like you thought the irs wouldn't target tea partiers. they have a long history of doing things like this. not without the realm of possibility. anything would target people because of their political beliefs is capable of anything. >> kimberly: absolutely. and they lie about it. >> brian: the overall sense of i know what you did leading up to this and you weren't playing fair and i'm going to get to the bottom of it, there's only one person who could do it. no one could touch barack obama for eight years. if anyone could do it, donald trump will find out the answer. >> kimberly: why are you so afraid of the truth? >> bob: i like the truth. let's start with his taxes. >> kimberly: you are pivoting. >> eric: doj has to sign off

on going to fisa court. >> bob: there is a record of it? >> eric: no. do you think there's a record of every conversation between loretta lynch and president obama? bob. >> kimberly: but he has the authority on fisa. >> bob: you may laugh about this but this is a guy, the president of the united states calling another president of the united states a crook. >> brian: barack obama call george bush incompetent. >> bob: that is not a crook. >> brian: headed over an end over again. it >> bob: let's take some more tea. "one more thing" is up next.

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difficult move. trust me. i used to do them. >> bob: when i was still drinking, st. patrick's was a difficult data try to figure out what to do to stay sober. a friend of mine in new jersey who is irish and her two sisters came up with silly mcgilly. you want to get it for your kids. it's a lot of fun. >> kimberly: it is kind of like elf on a shelf. >> bob: you know how to do these better than i do. >> kimberly: how cute. >> eric: okay meghan. >> meghan: mine is, starbucks is rolling out barrel aged coffee in which green, on roasted coffee beans are placed in barrels that previously held whiskey, bourbon, or other

alcohols. combining my two favorite vices of coffee and whiskey. it's only happening at the starbucks in seattle but i am all for you spreading this around. >> kimberly: those are two of your favorite loves. >> meghan: coffee and whiskey. >> kimberly: i pay attention to her instagram. >> brian: i could not be tom brady but maybe we can eat like tom brady. he has a partnership and they have combined forces to mirror the tom brady diet that has him playing at 40 years old and the most physical game in america. amongst the items you could be eating on a regular basis for $78 a week, lentil soup risotto, roasted vegetables, amaranth greens, coconut broth and bitter greens. sounds like fun. this is the way to be tom brady. $78 a month. >> kimberly: that would kill bob.

your body would reject it. >> eric: and five super bowls? >> kimberly: i think it sounds tasty except for the bitter greens. >> eric: i was stalling a little bit because facebook live, i'm going to do it now. i have two facebook's, when i use and when i don't. i am not sure which i'm going to go live on. i'm going to go and do facebook live. >> kimberly: talk and read? set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." that's it -- oh, stretching. >> eric: can you show this steady cam guy? >> meghan: beautiful new studio. >> eric: he has the camera attached to his body. >> kimberly: can you tell which one you are on? this is what happens if you had

a day without women, all kinds of things. there you go, do the waves. a real show is next. "special report" ." >> kimberly: >> bret: i'm bret n washington. we have confirmation that u.s. marines are on the ground in syria. conventional troops with a specific mission as directed by the president. these are different than the special operations forces that have already been active inside syria. let's get the latest on the breaking story from lucas tomlinson. good evening. >> u.s. special operations forces bent on the ground in syria for roughly a year but today in a report confirmed by the pentagon, first reported by "the washington post," a detachment of u.s. marines along with their