and dusk when the sky turned shades of blue and lavender. the locals call it the blue hou hour. between now and then, happening now is next. >> jon: the republican plan to replace obamacare, overcoming two big hurdles on friday. critics are warning it could be done on arrival in the full house and senate. good morning to you, welcome to happening now. >> melissa: happy friday to you. conservatives in the house and senate since the votes aren't there. this is a major test for president trump's negotiating skills as we await a meeting between the president and the chairman of the two committees that approve the plan. the president indicates he's open to changes to make hard-line conservatives happy,

but a new study suggests the g.o.p. plan could mean 15 million americans losing their health insurance, that's a headline no lawmaker wants attached. let's get the latest from john roberts. >> the president's meeting this hour with committee leaders on health care. i'm told by a senior white house official that the president is urging for full dealmaking mode. he's looking at the numbers, he's weighing and measuring options according to this white house official in his element. they say the president is doing what leadership should have done previously, listing people, take their ideas seriously, give them a hearing. mitch mulvaney is said to be working 20 hours a day, working through all the opposition ideas. senator cruz was here last night working with nick mulvaney. jim jordan and mark meadows were here yesterday meeting at the

president. congressman jordan was the cocreator of the freedom caucus, prominent members said to be pushing for rollback of the medicaid expansion by the end of this year. the current bill calling for sunset in 2020. he wants an open process for this bill. here's congressman jordan last night. >> god bless the speaker, but that's not how this is supposed to work. if you have an idea that you can get to the floor, then let's have the debate and get your best hold off your best shot let's see what happens. that's how it supposed to work. ss must be closed off. we only have a couple members on the budget committee, so what are we supposed to weigh in with our amendments on a bill that we saw 50 hours ago? >> there is a bowling party at the white house last night, there's another one on tuesday. a number of house members were

over to the bowling alley in the basement. only one of the two lanes was operational last night. members of the deputy team where they are. jeff sessions was there. i'm told by white house staff that none of the opponents of this bill are on board yet, but the president working hard to try to get people on board. at the important message from the white house, members of congress at this point is that none of this is yet locked in stone. the president is confident that when all of this is done, everybody will have something that they love and some things that they love less. there is some consternation from the speaker's office that perhaps the white house is trying to do an end run around speaker ryan. they are in contact with the white house come out there looking at what's being told here. not quite sure what the white house is going at this moment, but they hope to have a little more clarity as a committee chairs me with the president and about a half an hour. >> melissa: i wonder if they tell you who were those bowling

shoes before you. >> i've been to many bowling alleys in my life and i really don't want to know who is wearing the shoes before i put them on. i'd rather not know. >> melissa: john roberts, thank you so much. >> jon: i'm pretty sure abraham i can wear those shoes. as we wait, analysis of that replicant health care plan, others are not waiting. at least 50 million people will lose coverage under the plan. other studies go higher, especially if obamacare is repealed completely. let's talk about with lynn hall, fox news editor for "the wall street journal" ." before obamacare was introduced, there was what? 20, 22 million people who didn't have health care coverage. the idea is that we would be heading back in that same direction. >> that's estimated over a 10-year period.

that large measure reflects scaling back to the funding for the medicaid expansion that occurred in 21 states during the affordable care act. the removal of the mandate insurance also comes into play. >> jon: if the government enforces you to buy insurance and i are no longer forced to buy insurance and you have insurance, whose fault is that? >> the proposal from the republicans here is that you put a tax incentive out there that gets people to buy insurance because they would be motivated to do so rather than be required to do so. they never liked the mandate. that in itself has created some conflict within the republican party. some people think it's been too generous. it was a pretty heavy lift to get out of those committees, but it's out. that was the easy part.

>> they had some really long sessions, getting through the committee, they have not faced the biggest opposition yet. the biggest fight may be on the floor, as we saw just moments ago. have a much narrower majority. >> why was it the thing was passed with a president who wasn't all that involved in the passage of it? they didn't get any support from republicans, but they still got past. why are republicans known to reverse with a president who really wants this thing repealed and replaced? why are they having so much trouble? >> the one side is the sheer cost of the program. the other side is because of the length of time with the affordable care act has been in place and the expansions that are in place, there's a lot of people who have political stakes in this because they expanded

medicaid, they provided that coverage. taking something away could be a politically dangerous thing to do. >> jon: the freedom caucus in the house, the web site, they are very much against this. is there anyr getting it passed in its current form when it had so much opposition? >> i think it's likely we're going to see a lot of changes to it before comes out of the senate. remember, they're using a fast track methodology. that's because they're trying to treat it as more of a budget bill, which means i can stick to taxes and spending, but can get into some of the other provisions that might satisfy some of those concerns. even with that said, there's likely to be changes within all of this. it may be a tax credit gets amended to a different level, maybe doesn't come refundable. those things might change.

>> jon: the senate has its own problems and passing the house might be one things. >> we are starting to see the president and his team out there behind closed doors, meeting with people, trying to bring them around. there's a lot of effort now in the early stages to get through the house. >> jon: he's trying to say that we should get this passed and then will make changes down the road across state lines bringing on the cost and so forth that way. is that enough of a promise to convince some of the holdovers? >> what's scaring some people about that plan is when you get some of those developments, they may not be able to get that fast tracked. they may have to have a filibuster to get those votes. this bill has a faster chance of being approved with a simple majority. >> jon: interesting times in washington.

thank you very much. >> melissa: german police say a suspect is known custody after he attacked nine people with an ax at a busy train station. german authorities rolling out terrorism cigna 36-year-old, who apparently suffers from psychological problems, randomly went after people at duesseldorf main train station yesterday. to the rogan is following the story from london. what's the latest? >> this attack to happen just before 9:00 local time. the report is that the suspect was wheeling and acts on a train. passengers on that train able to push him off, but he continued to stab people at the train station. three were seriously hurt, to italian tourist and teenage girl. as a center police, including special units responded and that station was called off while police followed the suspect until he jumped from a bridge

near the station. he is now being treated in hospital. police say he is a diagnosed schizophrenic. he is originally from kosovo, but the president of germany says they also believe the suspect was acting alone and there is no evidence of any religious or political agenda. at that suspect has apparently told police he wants to be shot dead by their officers. german authorities have been increasing securing measures, forming a -- last july, and teenage asylum speaker attacked people in a similar style of attack on a train also using an ax. that attack was claimed by isis. if you look at the scale of police response in germany last night, it shows how nervous authorities are there about a possible extremist attack. in this case, prosecutors say it's likely the suspect will be charged with attempted manslaughter. >> melissa: thank you for that report.

>> jon: as the battle on health care rages on, president trump revealed his backup plan if that legislation fails to pass. let obamacare fail and blame democrats. our panel debates whether that is possible to win. plus, more fallout over the wikileaks release. how the media is covering the cia hack ♪ everything your family touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. and i finally found our big idaho potato truck. it's been touring the country telling folks about our heart healthy idaho potatoes,

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nancy pelosi and harry reid thought down company president and tom price would be secretary of hhs. so number two, administrative action d regulates the marketplace and allows more choice and competition to come into the marketplace. >> melissa: doug schoen is a former bloomberg advisor and a fox news contributor. kevin mccullough is a nationally syndicated radio host. and thanks to both of you for joining us. doug, if you want the president, if you're his advisor, what would you tell him to do right now? >> when i would tell him to do is to give the freedom caucus. i would say to go to the democrats and try to work on a joint solution that is bipartisan so that we ensure -- >> melissa: would they go

along with that? it seems like at this point democrats have very little incentive to pitch in and try to make this work. >> it's a way to salvage obamacare were events had 11 states -- something else, i do want the president to succeed on the democrats. i want people to have health care, affordable health care. i i don't want insurance compans to fail. >> melissa: it you say don't go to the dems. >> doug is a misreading what he is a good democrat and congressional leaders particularly nancy pelosi aired bad democrats. you're right, there's no incentive for them to come to the table. their pitch again just as equally and as hard as they criticized mcconnell for doing at the beginning of obamacare. the president has to do what he's doing. he's talking gently to them through twitter, he's going to stadium events, he's going to have ten or 12 vulnerable seat

states. they have freed up for dinner, he might have chuck schumer over for dinner. they're going to talk about this. this may pass, it might not be in the exact form it is today and those in the right and left her going have to do with it a little bit. the mandates will be gone. >> melissa: we are hearing about the bullying and the pizz pizza. when donald trump get you one on one, he's very charming. is it possible that he could do something in terms of getting people to come together and say this is the one thing we need. is that possible? >> i think they can get a belt narrowly through the house. the senate is going to be very tough, but i believe that you governed with a broader mandate than just narrow majorities. that was obama's mistake. if trump doesn't do a bipartisan

deal, they'll be a mistake as well. >> melissa: do you think he can get both sides to come together? one of the criticisms is that he is ideological. and my mind, that's an insult. and means he's not going to stick to it. >> on some levels, he has that same person because he got blue-collar workers to vote for him. what he does have to do is go to the people. get to talk to people and make sure they are the ones who are driving in dialogue and not the interests in washington, which are entrenched in both parties. keep talking about filling the promise that you campaigned on and do as much as you can to make it a free market, i think it will be fine. >> melissa: does that work in this case? with the people want is great health care, very cheaply.

when you get done in the details, i think a lot of americans -- i don't think going to the people, other than saying don't worry, you'll have health care, really works. >> i think of to go to the people certainly, but you have to have something to sell. 15-20 million people considerably are going to lose their health care. if the changes fall apart, you're not selling anything. you need to go to the people, but you need a bipartisan plan that has support in the congress that achieves the broad objectives we've been talking about, then you can sell it. >> the amount of people that lost health care through obama compared to the people who got it, it's a basically even wash. what we're talking about here is constructing health care differently, get rid of the mandates. if you give people their money back, you're going to end up being able to afford better

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>> jon: the founder of wikileaks said he will give act cia files to technology companies first to help them protect their products from spying tools. that's after wikileaks posted thousands of reported cia documents claiming they explain how the agency can turn everyday electronics like your cell phone or your tv into surveillance devices.

let's talk about this. welcome to both of you. here we go again, wikileaks is releasing lots of information, they say will not authenticated. every indication is that this is legitimate stuff. what do you think about wikileaks and what they've done here? >> we still don't know if the cia was hacked or if there is a mall. we know there is a criminal investigation. wikileaks says that 99% of what they have is still not even released yet. you've got the central intelligence agencies of the united states clearly being massively invaded and many of these tools, if not all are tools, that breach electronics have been already stolen and

that has been made clear by the wikileaks reveal as well. i think what's interesting is, while that's a story an end of itself, there are multiple of her stories regarding what they released and what we found. the cia allowing holes to remain open as people know no end devices so they can access them, putting all of us at risk. it brings up the issue of behavior and illegality with the government. how much our american cyber security is a strong or it's already has the stolen trove of information to be used against us. those are questions that the media should be pursuing, versus whether or not wikileaks should be prosecuted or who is it that got us this information. >> jon: is difficult to know who to believe in a situation like this when the cia can't authenticate what has come out, but it leaves you disturbed when

our top secret spy agency can be so easily hacked. >> that's a major part of what the story is about, as well as the other things that were mentioned. the senator john mccain talked about how very important it is to address that and there are many stories, many angles that will be covering all of it. >> jon: it sounds like you don't necessarily have a problem with what wikileaks has released here. >> i think back and i remember my education as a kid was watching woodward and bernstein and discussion of deep throat, who we now know as mark felt in an effort to expose the nature of the government was doing. my generation grew up with that

being a dynamic purity here at fox, james rosen, catherine herridge, jennifer griffin, great ingrassia reporters. now the government can pretty much carry media around by the nose, because these are young people in their 20s, have never had any experience, and don't know how to do their job. is it a journalism issue? is it a generational issue? if we have newspaper investigative reporters who are actually curious, after the nsa was exposed about lying and spying on every american, and james clapper lied about that easily to congress, which is what spurred note in. i knew there would be a massive curiosity to look into what our intelligence community was doing. that really didn't occur, and now it looks like wikileaks is filling my cap. >> jon: is a possible for

reporters to ferret out? this kind of information about some of these top-secret programs and said the cia? >> some of the most difficult stories are the ones dealing with national security issues, but there are many reporters in washington who have sources who work on this. there are many outlets big and small who have been addressing this. who have been addressing this for a number of years. this is the biggest challenge to reporters who covered this and i see no evidence out there that anyone is trying to overlook this story, the congressional committees will be taking this up an informational come on up there. this will be covered. >> jon: there are many stories you have to be written about what has been released here. thank you both. >> melissa: speak to the trump administration not ruling out anything in dealing with

north korea. as concerns arise that kim jong-un is preparing for more nuclear attacks. take one of the term presidency so far.

>> melissa: tensions escalate as the koreans meso amidst fears that north korea is preparing for and more nuclear attacks.

china not trying to get all parties back to the negotiating table as it south korea new leadership after the president was removed from office in a corruption scandal. joining me now, former cia senior north korean analyst and managing director for bauer group asia. a lot going on. let's start with a south korea piece. this really throws another variable into this situation. you see a government changeover, how does that impact things? >> it's going to impact things greatly, because now they have to hold a presidential election in 60 days, two months will have a new leader. it now looks like one of the two candidates for the progressive opposition will take over the house. what is potentially problematic as we might see divergence emerging between washington and how to handle north korea policies. as you know, north korea is a

very competent issue. >> melissa: is important that we are very tight with south korea. at the same time, we're looking at satellite images that were picked up in the last 24 hours, showing north korea preparing for another nuclear test. this makes kim jong-un look very aggressive at a moment in time when he's had 12 ballistic missiles last year. he said weapons of mass destruction out in public at an airport. what does this tell you? >> that he does want to pressure washington. kim jong-un has no intention of giving up his program. he puts his entire legitimacy on this. he has said he will have missiles by the end of this year. however, he does want to return to talks to potentially talk

about freeze or capping or some other issue. >> melissa: he wants to return to talks because of the economic pressure? >> right. he wants washington to drop sanctions against the regime. he has no intentions of giving up his nuclear weapons. >> melissa: it almost sounds like a similar situation with iran. it feels like were getting pressure back to the table as the u.s. nobody wants to see the show down, at the same time, one side of the world gives interns of the sanctions, but it's unclear if the other side is really willing to give up or even closed almost weapons. you'll think you would do anything in return? >> no, he's not going to give it up. we may talk about freezing the sanctions. first of all, it basically shows that north korea is accepting -- which we do would destroy --

>> melissa: what advice would you give to president trump? >> this is not time to negotiations. we have to continue the pressure, pressuring north korean regime with more sanctions. it is necessary. more on human rights fund, more getting information into north korea. we need pressure on all fronts to increase our leverage and so we need to return to talks with north korea one day, that we more leverage. this is not time to go up sanctions. >> melissa: meanwhile, china pushing the opposite direction saying they want everything to cool down. what do you think of their role? >> china is part of the problem, and hopefully part of the solution. china is not willing to pressure the north korean regime as we

wanted to, because even though right now they have a band import and north korean coal, i think that's more of a tactical move rather than a strategic move. >> melissa: thank you so much. great information. >> jon: president trump is now halfway through his first 100 days in office. the president certainly has made good on his promise to shake things up in washington, leaving his supporters and ruffling a lot of feathers in the process. what is a presidential historian take on mr. tom's presidency thus far? without right here, he published a book on trump's big win and hillary clinton's failed white house bid. the title is clever. doug, first of all let's take a look. we are over 50 days under this presidency, give us a retake on what mr. trump is accomplished thus far. >> i think he is doing great.

they're trying to hold him out and ridicule him by saying his predecessor was spying on him, but as you will read in my book, the last president who accused a predecessor of spying on them wasn't bill and hillary clinton. hillary clinton was convinced that george herbert walker bush was spying on them in the white house. of course, he was director of the cia, but hillary demanded a sweep of the private quarters of the white house secret service, wasn't satisfied, you can read all this in my book. got the fbi to do this the same thing. they finally created their own white house personnel security office, policed it with their own campaign people, access to all these old files of their political enemies, including me. my file was in the batch. to some hundred files of reagan-bush staffers and workers. we've seen all this before.

if it's true, stern was stumbling, so is a national media in their efforts to discredit him. one moment they say this absurd and ridiculous, he thinks his predecessor spied on him. the next night they tell us that samsung tvs, the cia is looking at us through samsung tvs. may be is onto something good. must be on the point gets made again and again, the president has offered no evidence. it's a saturday morning tweet storm in which he accused his predecessor of tapping his phones. >> that's right, and there's no evidence -- the clintons had no evidence that george h.w. bush was tapping them in the white house too. this was a natural question that you want to bring up and get resolved. this goes way back in history. we had a president they said was a spy of a foreign power, a foreign power got him elected, and they were manipulating

immigration was a big issue. that was john adams, who was supposed be a spy of the united kingdom or of england and immigration, one of the alien position act is that you had to be a citizen of the united states for my 14 years, an immigrant for my 14 years before you could be accepted ass a citizen. we've debated these things for years and we get hysterical. i can't believe that the russians are using donald trump as a puppet in the first thing they ask him to do is increase military spending. it's a bit far-fetched for me. >> jon: there's an article in national journal today written by charlie cook, the title is whilemanyofus .com she had 960,000 ground gam.

800 -- he had some things shouldn't have, earned media. the message, i would call over to trump tower and i would say you guys are off message and they would say no we aren't, you don't know the message. okay, time of the message. the message is make america great again and the second part of the message is i'm not a politician. all these rough edges you see that everyone is getting excited about are reinforcing the point that this is not a politician. we've had three politicians in a row and the poor got poorer, the rich got richer. the people who want donald trump want him to shake things up. >> jon: we have time for one more tweet from the president. he says don't of the fake news tell you that there is big fighting and the term administration. we're getting along great and

getting major things done. they are sitting getting some s done. you spoke to him just a couple of days before the election and he was telling you he was going to win. >> he was saying he was going to win and he's a very, very positive person. melania was very impressive to me. she sat down with him and she said we have such a good life, why do you want to do this? we worked so hard. at this the perfect life. he said i've got to do this. i would be so good at this. she said, well if you want to do it, you have to do it, but you be prepared. you're going to win. >> jon: fascinating. as an interesting read. doug weed. game of thorns is all about the campaign between trump and clinton. >> melissa: a new report showing healthy job growth during president trump's first

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>> melissa: the labor market c is a solid gain during president trump's full month in office. he headed to have a 5,000 jobs in february while the unemployment rate dips. the gains driven by construction and manufacturing jobs, but often setting the stage for a possible interest rate hike. joining us now. let's go down some of the details. report looks pretty good, construction ending 58,000 jobs, that's a largest gain in ten years. >> also, manufacturing increase increased. all in all, a very good report. about what the market expected.

4.7%, that's considered full employment. >> melissa: do we read from the construction numbers in terms of optimism or -- >> it was a warmer month, so they are gearing for projects. i think it also has to do with expectations of the business community. as this is in general are feeling pretty confident about things. they're feeling confident about tax cuts, regulations. that is inspiring them to hire and higher and a more aggressive rate. >> melissa: one optimistic sign was wages, 2.8%. that is it something that been lagging. >> also the labor participation rate. the highest level since march of 2015. a couple of years ago, people are saying on the couch saying i don't think i'm going to look a job. now we are seeing people actually get up off the couch,

look for a job, and find one. we've seen people quit their jobs voluntarily because they know there's better opportunities out there. all around, if you look at term's performance, things are looking pretty positive. >> melissa: do you still see the unemployment rate to be low and at the same time see wages grow? do the internals make it feel like we are really getting some tightening here? >> it does. consumers -- look at the economic backdrop. their portfolios or backup. if businesses are feeling pretty good all around. i think it's a backdrop in general it is really inspiring businesses and making them feel more confident.

>> melissa: are not trained to be debbie downer, i'm just trying to warn people about possible things out there. the one thing is possibility that we see interest rates continue to pick up here. >> that seems like a slam dunk for next week. i think the job report would have to have been horrible. yes, well they expected. if you have debt, your debt will become more expensive. >> melissa: other than that, when interest rates go up, i could signal to more optimism. if they think mortgages are legitimately going up off these historic lows, you know what, we been waiting, maybe now is the time to do it. it could be bad news, good news. >> from a consumer perspective, it's kind of bad news. the average household has $16,000 in credit card debt. if you got that much debt,

that's several hundred dollars more in interest every year. >> melissa: thank you so much, good stuff. >> jon: it is round two for president trump's travel ban. the revised version facing its own legal challenges in this time, more states are on board against the president

a >> jon: time check up what's ahead "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. >> president trump meeting with house committee chairs as he sets up his cell page on obamacare replacement. one republican says his party should just use the nuclear option to get it passed. is that a good idea or could that be dangerous? >> meghan: in his first public

appearance, bill clinton has a harsh words. when the former president says is taking us to quote the edge of our destruction and if he should be taken on the new president like this. >> sandra: all that plus our #oneluckyguy. >> jon: stay warm, it's chilly out there. >> melissa: washington washinge renewing his challenge to president trump's travel ban. it watched and enjoyed by four other states in the fight to block the revised plan from going into effect. >> it gets a little technical competence and of letting legal leading legal process play out in hawaii or the state is seeking a restraining order, washington state is a saying there already is injunction a place and then to remain in effect because the two orders are very similar. in its filing, state wrote yesterday that the president cannot unilaterally declare

itself and reinstate policies at this court already enjoins. he'll decide that the new travel ban is the same issue as the first. if so, he could block it. attorney general, bob ferguson says the burden of proof is on the white house. >> the president or anyone else who is subject to any injunction cannot simply repackage it and away and saint now we are clear of. that's up to the court to decid decide. >> if the demonstration argues the second travel ban is substantially different, green card and visa holders are not affected. iraq has been taken off the list, there is no preference of religion, many believed that he will make the justice department respond. they'll make the start of a travel ban which is set for march 16th, that's all part of the larger democratic game plan.

>> there definitely is coordination, not any sort of nefarious way. the secretary-general's of the united states to talk about this, do strategize. >> one important footnote, judge robert is the one who president trump tweeted was a "so-called judge" when he ruled against in the first go around. he has to make nice this time. >> melissa: much more to this story, thank you. >> jon: i had, and our second hour of happening now, the u.s. claims to add more fire in the fight against isis and syria. american roads, bridges, and other infrastructure need a whole lot of work and president trump pledges to get it done. can you get his party on board what's the best way to get

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>> jon: it's been great having you here the past couple of days. do you have another show in you? >> melissa: absolutely. i'm going to get a snack and come back for the next hour. what do you think? >> jon: sounds good >> president trump meeting with leaders at the white house as he continues to sell the health care reform plan. i meghan mccain coming here today, harris faulkner, sandra smith, abby huntsman and geraldo rivera is our #oneluckyguy. thank you so much for coming back on. >> harris: we are going to get some fresh breaking news and i'm glad you're here. you're going to help us take this all apart and break it down. here's what we are watching. we are waiting for