>> jon: it's been great having you here the past couple of days. do you have another show in you? >> melissa: absolutely. i'm going to get a snack and come back for the next hour. what do you think? >> jon: sounds good >> president trump meeting with leaders at the white house as he continues to sell the health care reform plan. i meghan mccain coming here today, harris faulkner, sandra smith, abby huntsman and geraldo rivera is our #oneluckyguy. thank you so much for coming back on. >> harris: we are going to get some fresh breaking news and i'm glad you're here. you're going to help us take this all apart and break it down. here's what we are watching. we are waiting for the president to play out, because we are able

to get some video of something that just happened. he had some discussion with each house committee chairperson of all of the exact committees that have jurisdiction over replacing, repealing and replacing obamacare. that plan that is in the works. this is of the roosevelt room on the list. congresswoman diane black representative kevin brady of texas. this is a key meeting and discussion that the president is having another back all the back-and-forth and the hours and hours and the rewrites and where we are right now in this journey and he's trying to put together. the plan is to have something on his desk potentially by easter. let's watch together. >> vice president, president. >>t to thank each of the

house committee leaders for being with us today and devotion leadership has been amazing. i want to applaud you and the diligent work of your committees to advance the obamacare repeal and replacement legislation that we've been talking about for a long time and that we been running with. that's what people want. they want to repeal and replace. the bill passed just now through ways and means, and it will -- i think the committee just voted recently, right? the energy and commerce and it was a very good boat. congratulations, it was a good job. amazing. we're going to now save americans from the imploding obamacare disaster. premiums have skyrocketed by double digits in triple digits in some cases as an example, arizona, which i talk about all the time. 116% increase and is going up a lot higher.

17 would be a disaster for obamacare. as but it is now, it will get even worse. choices are disappearing as one insurer drops out after another. today, one-third of all counties now have only one insurer under the obamacare exchanges. the exchange of themselves are a disaster. the house repeal and replace plan ends obamacare tax hikes cutting taxes by hundreds of billions of dollars. it eliminates government approved plans, we all know that one. it provides estates and flexibilities over how medicaid is spent giving power back to local government, which we all want to see. they do a much better job. the plan is to buy health insurance on the right for them,

not a plan forced on them by government. you all remember, you can keep your plan, it was said many, many times and it turned out to be not true. this is the time we are going to get it done. we're working together, we have some great results. we have tremendous spirit and i think it's something i going to have been very shortly. thank you all very much. >> harris: we are watching prepared remarks there from president trump and also some ad-libbing just at the top, because he said he wanted to recognize that just passed now and the committee of ways and means is a bill that they put forth and also, has passed the energy and commerce. that's all in the house. after his prepared remarks and among them, he said at one point that obamacare was meant to explode because president obama would not be here. that solicited some comments from the couch. let's come out and see what people were thinking and saying.

>> this is going to be a tough battle for him right now. we've been talking at length this week about how there's been split in the republican party. freedom caucus bring it to the mattresses, this basically is just the second version of obamacare. we have president trump you're saying is going to be a great bell, we're going to get it through, there's basically no problems. i was laughing because you he d obamacare was meant to explode which is an interesting comment that it was meant to fail. >> geraldo: i also seized on what megan said, to suggest to that president premeditated the failure of obamacare because he was going to be out of office. i think it's kind of comical. i don't believe the president meant it literally. maybe he doesn't mean half of what he says.

>> sandra: that comes up a lot with some of the tweets he puts out. what came out of that moment he shared with us was we must act now to save americans from the imploding obamacare disaster. that must act now is it something that his republican colleagues the >> meghan: i agree with him, if we screw this up and if it does ends up being a failure, as i've been saying, the political expense that will happen and add midterm electios will be catastrophic. >> harris: abby, i'm interested to get some of your thoughts on this. the other issue is, they have paid, they've enrolled, they paid some of the fees that they did want to enroll. this thing is already kind of moving and they don't want to keep it moving for another year. >> abby: know we have the

option of using the nuclear option. dave bratt said he wants republicans to use the nuclear option to overcome democratic opposition would would require a majority rather than 60 votes. he tells fox news we're doing this to say president trump. everyone says come out when it you just go along with things? we just need some action over the senate. they are hiding under their desks. if they're not full of action over there. >> harris: i want to come back to abby. >> abby: health care is not the most public anything we're going to do with going forth, but it's also the most personal. i've seen that going around this country, talking to voters. it's heartbreaking to hear. some of them are already in the thick of obamacare which is why it makes it so complicated. the quote we just mentioned, sandra, as all the reminder of how we should do things differently.

that really shoved down people's throats through straight partisan lines. if you want to get this right, you've got to have bipartisan support with this. i think it's more important for americans to take their time to get everyone on board before shoving down anyone. we've seen that is not ultimately what is best for the american people. we've got to get this thing right. it >> geraldo: i think there is zero chance of bipartisan cooperation. i respect fully disagree. paul ryan is exactly right, this is the best chance they have. if they don't -- this is a modest proposal compared to what senator cotton. they just want everyone else to agree when it comes to medical care. i think that this is a reasonable compromise. i want medicare for everybody, but if the republicans will get anything done, i think this bill makes some sense, it does give them some consideration to the poor. it does give some consideration to the chronically ill, those of

pre-existing conditions and so forth. i think if they don't do this, it will preoccupy everybody. >> harris: the newspaper reporting today -- i mentioned it briefly that the goal is to give it to the house and senate and to get something on the president's desk by april. rather by easter. that's april 16th, that's relatively quickly. >> meghan: i think people like rand paul, these are purists, purest conservatives when it comes to political issues in the most intense sense i can possibly convey to you. part of this is just a fight a political ideology that they don't want medicaid expansion. that they ran in a certain way and made promises that their

constituents, is that i voted on obamacare lite. his political prices to pay. >> sandra: the messaging that is been coming out of this white house and as sean spicer says, the president is in cell mode. the problem is they're not selling what they have. >> abby: a lot of people don't understand. i cannot tell you how many people i've talked to, i have no idea what our health care system is right now. my sister, she's got type one diabetes. she calls me in tears all the time because insulin prices have gone through the roof. another plan that i'm on which is more affordable, she says i have to change the doctor. i love him, i had to change it to actually afford the insurance i'm on. she's lucky that you can pay for her insurance. i'm realizing what every american is going through and it's complicated. >> harris: was interesting and

be heard speak of the house paul ryan talk about this in terms of the epipen and because coming down in affordability, so many people in this country have got a hold. you have to break that. issac congressman lewis was going to cross last week political lines. can we be more optimistic and say that they can get something done? >> geraldo: getting the drug companies to lower the cost of drugs and selling insurance across state lines, as i understand it, are not in the bill proposed by ryan. i think those the things i really can relate to. their freedom caucus guys because they are in safe districts. the people in the swing districts, they're going to have people like your sister standing up there and saying i lost my

epipen or my diabetes medication or loss this or my aunt till he died because there is no care for her. they're good to see a change politically. the ryan plan is a reasonable compromise. when obamacare ride, let it go broke. >> meghan: will see if our president is quite the dealmaker he has claimed to be. states joined to fight against the new travel ban. dhs announces a big drop in illegal border crossings, whether president trump is doing a good job with illegal immigration you don't let anything keep you sidelined.

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the species that that showed on trump's new travel ban temporarily blocking citizens from six majority muslim countries from entering the united states. a group of at least five states are banding together to lock and key elements of the latest executive order. hawaii also filing its own lawsuit. the judge said that still

unconstitutional. he is now calling on judge james drove bart who blocked initial travel ban to suspend that injunction and this version too. >> there are still problems with his executive order. we are asserting that the president cannot unilaterally declare himself free of the court's order. the court decides that and will be asking the judge to confirm that this travel ban remains blocked by my lawsuit and the federal courts. >> sandra: the white house insisting this new order will hold up in court. here's sean spicer. >> we are very comfortable that the executive order is consistent and will go forward on this. i think, by all means, we feel very confident with how those crafted. >> sandra: he feels very confident, trump feels confident, the white house in

general, but what does that mea mean? >> geraldo: mind illegal take first, i do agree with the washington state attorney general, i believe that as crafted, this executive order is constitutional. on its face. it just the order itself is constitutional. that's an important distinction. i also think that the washington state attorney general 'as contention is that the injunction, it should apply to the new order is also legally flawed. the executive order is a paper you read. it has to be a new lawsuit. when the new order fails, is the same reason that the old one failed. it's not please hang on the paper, it's what he said during the campaign. what did he say? i'm going to ban all immigration from muslim countries. that's what he said.

the court will look at it and say what he's trying to do is ban muslim immigration and he's doing with this way. >> meghan: ebony was on here early this week and she said that the rhetoric from the campaign trail is the ghost that comes back to haunt. i was against that rhetoric to begin with because i think it's a very dicey road to go forth o on. i think making clear to the rec and public is that there is a differentiation to interval ban any muslim man messy. >> abby: what can he do to fix this? does he go out and say whatever is on the campaign trail, i didn't mean it that way. this is what i was trying to say and here's exactly what is in this executive order. if you are saying, he can hold that against him, this is never going to go through. >> geraldo: the worst thing is to get around the religious part, they took the christian

exemption of the travel ban. in other words, i'm a very experienced war correspondent. christians are being wiped out in the middle east. where christianity it's being eliminated. the constant attacks from isis and al qaeda and everyone else. christians should get some kind of priority. i know it's politically incorrect to say that. they are being oppressed, they are the most vulnerable population. >> harris: if you take it out so he doesn't have a religious tinge to it, now you're saying on a put back in? >> geraldo: i'm saying that's what should have been issued. he should have said i'm taking religious minorities --

>> sandra: you got several states that are challenging the state ban. do you expect more to follow suit? >> harris: if you look at the gap between when there was a statement on the first executive order and when they put one in, you had attorneys flocking to airports. when reporters on fox report one night saying that people were rushing to get into this country. thousands of dollars coming from the seven countries were previously on the first executive order trying to get in. those attorneys were sitting there just waiting for them. will there be more cases? >> geraldo: if over-the-top in meditation, i would move on. >> meghan: why isn't pakistan an end saudi arabia on it? a >> abby: whether it's this or health care or anything, you name it.

>> harris: meanwhile, the justice department is reportedly dispatching 50 judges across the nation to deal with the massive backlog of immigration cases which aim to be heard. that's according to sources on a letter obtained. it says the do jay data has a backlog. this coming days after the home and security department announced border crossings are down 40%. we will hear from months of the decrease was an indication of a lasting effect of president trump's policies and rhetoric. his opponents say his actions are going to hurt the most vulnerable. a former obama and ms. writer-director said the blaze can -- many of those people with legitimate asylum claims. that some tough language.

>> meghan: i want to start this off with i understand you changed your perspective on the wall. why? the >> geraldo: elections have consequences, a majority of the states have made this their seminal issue. if you want to spend $25 million on the infrastructure project that doesn't really benefit anybody, i'm stepping out of the way and saying god bless you, do whatever turns you on. if that's what the president want to do instead of building bridges, hospitals, public schools, the nuts a choice that he has made. i think it's not going to work, it won't keep anybody out. the fact is that people are being deterred by trumps tough language. >> meghan: it doesn't matter if that's the reason were not, perception is reality. this 40% number is a huge

number, especially historically in the month of february. >> abby: and a lot of these cases come over criminals. the average wait time to go in front of an immigration judge which is what many of these criminals have to do to figure out their faith, the average wait time is two years. that is incredibly complicated, so i think what they're trying to do is say we have to spice things up. >> harris: what president trump said he wants to do this first executive order was to fast-track, he's done that. the second one doesn't roll in until march 16th. we're still talking to a document that has negative effect yet. we'll see the judges go to a place like california, san diego, and chicago at first. that's where those 550,000 cases

are sitting in multitude for those judges to go to. if they don't get enough volunteers, going to start assigning judges. >> sandra: as far as a president showing that he's serious and getting more serious about illegal immigration, going back to the 40% number and looking at the illegal border crossings, isn't he satisfying his base? >> geraldo: i think he is, but let me just say one comment. i her general kelly propose that children coming with their parents are with adults to the border will be given some sort of refugee status or asylum, but they be separated from whoever the adult is that brought them. i think that's a hideous idea. if they're going to take children from their parents, i get weak thinking about it. it's a very contentious issue, but you cannot break up families. >> meghan: the optics of that

will be detrimental. that is the thing, especially when the wall is going to be built very soon or at least bringing ground very soon. never underestimate what one picture can do, what one protest can do. that goes back to how important communication is in all these things. when he talks about this, there's got to be compassion. >> harris: who should this messenger be? >> abby: he has said that when it comes to children, he's had his heartbreak. again, i think he is prioritizing criminals. the problem is, people are digesting it. they don't know what their fate is going to be. he should be the one obvious front lines describing the people what exec leave goal is. >> harris: i go back to the campaign in ways other than candidate donald trump do something that hillary clinton and into, barack obama didn't do and i was go to the border.

his perspective, perhaps he is the best person to sell it. president trumpeting his first report card on the economy. it chose a healthy to her for 5,000 jobs were added in february. how will that continue? what it looks like and will mr. trump make good on his promise that he's made over and over again? watch. >> is going to be unbelievable. i will be the greatest job president that got ever created. believe me ♪

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>> are taxed, trade, energy and regulatory reforms will help us reach 4% growth and create at least 25 million new jobs within a decade. america will become the great jobs magnet of the world. >> sandra: that was then

candidate donald trump last october a promising job creation. the labor department announcing that the u.s. economy added 205,000 jobs above expectations and the unemployment rate kicked down to 4.7%. president trump's first full month in office. when you look at that, it sounds great, but we have been seeing this. it looks like the trump administration is going to take ownership of this. >> >> geraldo: i don't think president obama was given enough credit. president trump is now infused, even more optimism into the system. i'm up about 10% since november 8th and i'm a modest investor. everyone feels better.

>> sandra: it does not take away from the fact that there is optimism out there. you hear it and see it when you look at the stock market. >> meghan: as long as it keeps happening, as long as he gives up on this promise, whether or not he deserves the credit, it doesn't matter. because he's president now as a physical act of administration is no longer his. if he continues to do this, democrats are completely neutered and midterm elections. if they have no messaging except cup cultural issues and are not focusing on the economy or immigration, it will be a very easy home run.

>> sandra: this is a bold promise on the campaign trail and it will be quite the growth for obama. surely, that will be a good thing. >> abby: those of the jobs were seeing improvement n. i spent a government of time in scranton, pennsylvania, . that used to be the cold country, the center of this country. now, most of the stopper fast food. at that's happening to a lot of voters there. it was really sad to see what it's turned into. we have been and over again that jobs are going to come back to us. that's why a lot of democrats so they switched their vote this time for president trump. >> meghan: one amendment to my commentary, they scrub obamacare, nothing else matters. >> harris: the jobs that you're mentioning, 58,000 of

them were in construction. i think the point that you're making, abby is a strong one, these are areas specifically where harry clinton didn't go t to. she missed out, and these are the very blue-collar workers who were saying, we don't just want jobs to come back, we want those jobs to come back. >> abby: i mention scranton because that is where he will he dad is barry. that is where joe biden is from. scranton ended up going to hillery clinton in the end, but by very small margin. >> harris: these places release jobs are, more construction than a decade, that's huge. >> sandra: cover the loss regional today has net worth in the u.s. $93 trillion in the fourth quarter. that stock market surge leads to net worth going out, people buy houses. >> geraldo: remember, as the

economy, stupid. i get what is between six and saying about the emotional issues. people act disproportionately. obamacare, i think they'll hash that out. if everyone he feels more optimistic about the ability to pay for the kids college or to take a vacation, get a new car -- you can always hang out at m my. >> sandra: for the record, their first jobs reported under this president, it was a problem. >> meghan: people have a lot more faith in him then we would have god with hillary clinton. >> abby: the top issue for them is on immigration, it's the economy. >> sandra: so much for the

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>> meghan: look who's back in his first public appearance since his wife lost in the election. former president bill clinton makes a speech that some folks heard as a shot at president trump, even if not by name. love for a president warns of a disastrous consequences from the rise of nationalism sweeping the globe. watch. >> people who claim to want their nationstate are actually trying to have a national movement to institutionalize separatism within national

borders. somehow or another, we had to find a way to bring simple, personal decency and trust back to our politics. it's going to be one set of rules for us and another set of rules for anybody else or we will find the same rules. eventually, the challenges we face can be resolved in a way to keep us going forward. instead of taking it to the edge of our own destruction. >> meghan: he's going after the movement that ed created donald trump that got him elected to the presidency. the one thing to give bill clinton, he's warned

hillary's campaign and need to spend more time in sweep states like north carolina. i would debate he knows more than what he's letting on. >> geraldo: he looks so frail. it dampens me to the substance of his remarks, i look at him, he's three years younger than i am, why is that? i feel very bad and i think that had a very negative impact on hillary's race. they seem so frail, donald trump seems so physical, so passionate. in terms of the substance of his remarks, it was an event honoring my favorite politician. i love her being and he famously said that they can be jewish or democratic, i do lament the

spread of nationalism to the extent that it has taken hold. i think there's going to be a rebound. >> sandra: going back to the point, this is a former president. on the new president is barely in office. >> geraldo: did you really are something against president trump there? >> meghan: underneath it all. >> abby: that had everything to when the election, they had the money, the ground foundation, i think they're still numb to the fact that they lost. i would go back to there's a certain level of respect and statesmanship. they had eight years to do what they wanted to do. it passed the torch onto the next person. >> sandra: you didn't see this as a day? are we going to live in a world together?

>> geraldo: >> meghan: they're g it collective as a family. it's hillary, it's chelsea on twitter. this the collective clinton unit when they speak for each other and do everything together. they focus on everything and put out in the world and they are attacking president trump over and over again. the timing is very wrong on it if they're going to come out and criticize and be very thoughtful in a way that you do it in the way longer. they lost a historic election. well after a long of a certain dead and gone, you historically known as the loser who blew the biggest opportunity to a national movement which by the way is happening in america, it's happening globally. it's a response to the progressive left. across the globe, all the people you're seeing -- >> harris: having several democrats standing behind him. it was his wife who called the

republicans are great enemy. the lack of civility is not owned by one party or another, it is nasty. >> geraldo: i think it all goes back to president obama's failure to stop the syrian civil war. if we had stopped the syrian civil war, if he had been aggressive there and not allowed libya to be imposed and destabilized the whole region, setting loose this huge tidal wave of refuge and immigrants, that's what he's talking about, because europe now is responding -- i don't know if it's the redline. >> abby: i don't know if president clinton has a lot to fall back on when he ties about your coming together. the big take away from the election was a huge disconnect that the clintons had to the american people. i don't know how much credibility has to fall back on that statement. >> meghan: it seems americans are finally fed up with the

partisan strike is a new poll shows they want their lawmakers to him together and compromise. why that may be easier said than done. ♪

>> meghan: more outnumbered in just a moment. a spew and enter next hour, the number of americans hitting the labor force has a record high and stocks are way up, what does that mean for interest rates? plus, the white house briefing, lots of headlines on the docket today including obamacare, that's all i had on happening. >> sandra: thank you, we'll see you then. >> harris: seems like americans may finally be fed up with the partisans fighting in politics. new numbers that show the majority of americans want to see more compromise on both sides of the political aisle. 72% of americans say they would want to aim for president trump to agree.

this map, take a look, shows why that may be easier said than done. the red and blue show counties where either hillary clinton or president trump won the popular vote by more than 20 points. showing how deep the political divide is. it was a very different story in '96 when a country appeared much more moderate. i suppose you could say that come up with the country certainly appeared a lot more red this time around. a mosul for this poll, americans baffle me, because the messaging of a bipartisan coming together, we are all going to work together, that is not what wins elections. it's interesting to me they can have such a deeply partisan candidate like donald trump be elected. at the same time, the american public wants people to work together. i continue to be confused by that pole.

>> abby: you mentioned math, it's amazing the middle of the country is all red. the cities are democratic, we are living in to a totally worlds. a lot of the american voters are really the heart and soul of the country. i compare those conversations to those with a lot of my friends who live in the city, they could not be more indifferent in terms of the way they talk about the candidates. >> harris: how about hillary clinton going to this predominately edge of the country. it comfortably blue. >> geraldo: put the map back up. i submit to you that the real colors are in red and blue, but white and black.

black and brown on the other hand. i think the country is increasingly divided on racial lines. i know it's not what it's about, but outwardly it really is about. politics and becoming racial, i think it's very distressful, and i think the nobel prize winners of the future will be those who bring us in a post-racial -- a >> sandra: looking at those maps, is it possible that the political divide can be bridged? >> geraldo: i think that racism, when i say that, i know people are saying geraldo, what the hell? i think racism is a deeply and equally exacerbated by people who seek to gain an advantage. the people who feel it are the unlikely people. donald trump could be the guy, when nixon goes to china, you

never expected nixon to hardlin hardline, he's always the one who opens up china. >> harris: why will the democrats work with mr. trumbo getting that done? they use those compartment allies politics among anyone else. >> geraldo: angry, they are so angry about not getting what they want. >> harris: is that anger our pettiness? >> meghan: 70% of americans really do want politicians to work together on the other side. why are candidates you have that message basically laughed off the stage? there is a disconnect between what people are saying in the polls and how people are voting. speed and i think root of this problem is you've got members of congress running for office every two years, which means they are constantly campaigning.

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a >> meghan: thank you to the one and only geraldo rivera and thank you for letting abby and i pick your brain about your favorite interviews during the commercial break.

thank you again, will be back on monday. happening now starts right now. >> jon: a push to repeal and replace obamacare. were covering all the news happening now. >> lawmakers gear up for a coule an eye-opening public hearing on russia as the fbi director brief the congressional leadership on leadership. plus, u.s. troops in syria helping to close in on the isa stronghold, why the battle ahead will be fierce. in a sex scandal rocking the marine corps