that was no evidence of that. that was no evidence of that. no one ever gets the last word here. that's all we had time for. have a great week. howie: on "mediabuzz," president trump facing a barrage of personal credit civil from the media. trump calling so-called fake news the enemy of the american people and dealing with the uproar of his unproven claim that barack obama had his wire tarpd. >> have you seen any evidence yourself? >> as far as me, no, that wouldn't be part of my daily duty. that would be above my level of pay grade. >> he's the president of the united states.

he has intelligence and information the rest of us do not. howie: some pundits are questioning the president's stability. and some are saying kellyanne conway is the victim of sexist attacks. howie: wikileaks shows all the ways the cia can spy on americans. there is so much media controversy on so many issues surrounding the white house, i sat down with kellyanne conway, the president's counselor in new york. you talk about how if the media focuses on side shows.

but doesn't the president drive some of that when he tweets about arnold schwarzenegger leaving "the apprentice"? >> he wants the media to cover the administration fully and fairly. some of the coverage is what i would call meanness. instead of everybody look out of the same pane of glass, you can still see what everybody else is saying. howie: one of the pane's of glass is the president's use of twitter. >> i think the people at large, it's a big country out there outside of the know-it-alls. they listened to the joint session address and they know he is a man of action and a man of impact. he just looked them in the eye

for an hour and said he will repeal and reeve place obamacare. he called isis savages. he called out islamic terror. he said we'll build the wall. we have spent many years and billions of dollars helping other countries protect their off earn i. twitter, and somebody house his campaign manager and now his counselor. i hear people say you have to take his twitter. are you kidding me? this is the way he communicates with people. it's the democratization of his necessariage. the ceo billionaire who is -- who is accosted by everyone

telling him. howie: last weekend the president tweeted about barack obama tapped his wires. he acted like nixon in watergate. you and sean spicer and others have been careful not to endorse that position. is that a difficult position for you? >> i'm not in a difficult position. the president called upon the house and senate intelligence committee to add this piece to the investigation to their existing investigation about russia and they after he greed to do that. we'll make findings when the investigation is complete. howie: your problem with the house conservatives is the repeal and replace obamacare is obamacare light. doesn't that reflect the fact that this is a tough political battlefield? >> obamacare is very tough.

it's been a disaster for many people. it helped many americans. the president committed no one will loss coverage. so. americans complain about the unaffordability. the question of unaffordability of healthcare. you have high premiums, small businesses that can't pull themselves together to get coverage. the president in the three-prong approach to healthcare, he will get rid of all those mandate, penalties and taxes, hundreds of millions of dollars with. nobody ever brings the rental car to the car wash. it's not there. if you own the account, if it has your name on it, if you have more skin in the game. phase two will allow dr. tom

price to set up a regulatory framework keeping with the patient-centric system. interstate mobility of healthcare so you can buy and sell health insurance across state lines and drug price and tort reform. it's all there. howie: one of the reasons the president has a problem with parts of the conservative party is when he ran he made it clear that no one would lose their coverage. so now he's in an ideological fire with people who want to do away with more of it. would you concede that? >> there is nothing to concede. the president is trying to repeal and replace obamacare with a better system. it's existed for 7 years. preexisting conditions and these young adults on their parents

plans until 26 are two pieces important to americans. that's part of his plan where he's repealing and replacing. i think this is donald trump at his best, the deal maker, the decision maker. this is the guy who is listening as president of the united states. the democratic party is nowhere to be found except scaring americans. hey, folks, no wonder you lost legislative seats and the house and the senate. where are their skills. howie: some pundits are questioning the president's mental stability. lawrence o'donnell saying maybe he should be removed under the 27th amendment. i have never seen anything like this. >> tough never seen anything like this either.

but washington has never seen a donald trump. when you come in as an outsider and you owe no one anything. and you are going to disrupt a bureaucracy that's so entrenched. the tent -- the tentacles are so deep, you are going to ruffle a lot of feathers. people were not expecting him to win. i think they are still in shell shock four months later. and they don't want to give him any kind of berth at all to govern. is there nothing good in the first 50 days for any of these people top cover? howie: you have people saying fake presidency, there is no credibility. part of the press's job is to critique the president. >> it's a big country out there, and there are tens of millions of americans who like what the

president is doing and appreciate that he's making good on his campaign promises. howie: you think they don't trust it? >> the president's approval rating is higher than congress's approval rating and the media'ss approval rating. when you look at the number of people who think he's making good on his promises. the "wall street journal" poll last the week was a treasure trove for president trump. you had people saying he would make real change, and among that 77%, they were asked will it be mostly positive or negative change. and by 2 to 1 they said positive change. look at the jobs report. 253,000 jobs.

that matters. howie: i know it matters. but that doesn't might's not a legitimate story. the majority of the coverage has been negative. doesn't it make your job harder when the president names cnn, cbs, abc, nbc, and names them as the enemy to the american people? >> the president made it clear he would like to have a good relationship with the press. but it's a two-way treat. we believe in a free and fair press. but with it comes responsibility. i tell him and say publicly all the time. he's his own best spokeperson. when he does the press conference and does a rally in melbourne, florida or maybe one coming up somewhere else. when he addresses congress in a joint session.

that's the president at his finest. but it would be nice for him to get. people are calling him names i have never heard a president described before. i was raised to respect the office of the present and its occupant no matter who it is. the coverage of this president has been so negative and incomplete. if he took 34-35 executive across in the first 50 days. why is everybody talking about one or two? there is an economic optimism you see reflected in the stock market, in consumer confidence and job growth. the manufacturing job explosion in the first month on the job tells the tale. howie: i have more of my

interview with kellyanne conway on foxnews.com. on foxnews.com. the wiretapping claim is getting

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also played sean spicer to get all that information from the president. i think it is his job. he should have access to that information. howie: foxconn firmed the house intelligence committee demanded prove to the committee by tomorrow. the f.b.i. and the cia officials keeps this story going. but no one has been able to point to much evidence. >> we don't know what we don't know. the white house could have a bunch of information on this. but right now we are all in conspiracy theories and what ifs. but we are not talking about jeff sessions recrucial himself. we are not talking about that scandal. this is what donald trump does

so well. howie: at the same time look where he has driven it, to all this criticism about him making a charge that at least the journalistic consensus he isn't able to back up. >> in the interview with kellyanne which was interesting, we haven't heard that much from her lately. mr. know-it-all let her have her say on almost every topic. but on the wiretapping tweet she was coshe -- she was conspicuous forthcoming. howie: you are the spokesman, the counselor and the vice president of the united states. you can't go on television and

say i know it's true and the president assured me. so you let congress investigate. >> it's a distrust of our national security and f.b.i. becoming so politicized in the election cycle. i speak to americans all the time who say they have reason to believe there are people inside the intelligence community that want to take out president trump. howie: there certainly is a lot of leaking. on some national security matters as well against donald trump. this is according to unnamed source or sources close to the former president. nbc said barack obama rolled his eyes at this allegation. "wall street journal," he was livid. but he hasn't said this himself. this is through sources.

>> president obama says he doesn't want to say much at the beginning of the new president's tenure. has donald trump thought about picking up the phone and calling barack obama to talk about this personally? shouldn't they go to the subject and ask first before you accuse? spicer said i don't know if they have talked. howie: up next, some commentators openly questioning the president's stability. isn't that way over the line? kellyanne conway on whether there is a

howie: the uproar over president obama's unproven claim about wiretapping has some media

questioning his mental stability. >> i had an open mind and i lost hope to completely and my mind is closed. this presidency is fake and failed. >> this guy is almost to a point, i think that he ought not have control of the nuclear codes. this guy is starting to lose it. >> whether he lied about president obama base's a buffoon or because he accused president obama of a crime because he's a madman. howie: is it over the top? to criticize president trump's handling of the wiretapping issue is fine. but to say, fake president. failed president. >> it's so over the top. it's worse than some of the

things i have seen on "the batch more" this season. this only gives president trump power. his supporters love him pushing back on the media elite. if he does something really truly believed could be dangerous or compromise to our democracy. but if you are hysterical on television you lose power. >> good television, good ratings. howie: can you explain county bachelor" reference? >> it's so dramatic. when you say fake president, it's oh, my gosh. it's opening up -- it's hysterical. >> the dishonest media has been giving trump a break on tweets. he wanted to counteract a story before with his new tweets.

this one came off his speech which there was no rationale for taking attention away from that. and he broke a taboo which is to call the former president sick and bad. we usually have respect that the president's club -- club. howie: the president is fair game for criticism by the media, there is no debate about that. after having interviewing him since the 1980s. who won the white house when nobody thought he could do it, is not a guy who is insane. somewhat we hear from the media is he's unhinged. what does that mean? we need to slow down, step by step, get the questions. >> he doesn't have impulse

control. he feels something and he doesn't mediate it in any way, then it's out there. howie: to what extent does this language undermine the media's credibility? what does this do to media's credibility? >> since the rise of donald trump, it's all republicans are insane and hitler which has bent narrative for a long time. comparing republicans to george wallace. if usual hysterical about every move donald trump nation, all it does is make supporters think you are part of the left. howie: ahead on "mediabuzz," the coverage of that wikileaks dump. is julian assange getting a pass?

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howie: let me ride a headline, sexist political criticism finds a new target? kellyanne conway. what powerful political woman is mocked for her clothes, depicted as haggard, called a witch and the "b" word. what's your reaction to this being in the new york tiesms saying you are unfairly attacked. >> i was asked about that before i read the article. i'm heartened by the article. i did not participate tonight. but a number of well-known

prominent democratic women we know who worked very hardtop elect hillary clinton who i commend as obviously very good consultants and political oh own spent, they came to the defense of why a woman would be talked about in these terms. a lot of these comments come from women. i turn off a lot of it. if i don't read most of the praise and criticism, it keeps you in balance. howie: that's a good strategy for survival. >> i'm there to serve the president and serve the american people. how report infamous photo of you taking a picture on the oval office couch. and democratic koangman said --

congressman cedric richmond made a comment. >> i'm pro-life. i'm a high-ranking female white house official for president trump. howie: what about nancy pelosi? >> very disappointed in minority lead for nancy pelosi. the majority of voters across the can't you dry were fee mail and they didn't want her to be speaker. she either wasn't telling the truth or it wasn't important enough to her caucus that they would bring it to her. saying that one should resign, that one should be impeached. she had nothing to say about a member of her caucus issuing such a tasteless, sexist joke which many liberals in the room didn't think it was funny. she and i went to the same small

women's catholic college. that's small catholic college can boast the first female speaker 69 house and the first female campaign manager. you would think they would object to nancy pelosi's abortion any time, anywhere. this ways happens when you refuse to call yourself a doctrinaire feminist. look at the commercials on tv. men can't open a garbage bag unless the woman shows them how. howie: you were off tv for 8 days and stories were run saying you had been sidelined by the white house. >> i'm invited on tv routinely.

i have been allowed voice since the transition. it's all out there. having our cabinet secretaries out there, our president, our vice president. and having less of us on tv. why? it's not the campaign. it's not a political opponent. it's a proactive agenda. the president is the main messenger. if i can reinforce his message i am happy to do that. i think i'll get one of those facelifts women of a certain age seem to get. and then actual know why while gone for three or four weeks sidelining myself. howie: you said the one thing that would cause you to think about leaving the white house would object your four kids. is it harder than you thought working for the president being

a mom? >> no. the impact he can have on lives is remarkable and it's why i'm there. howie: but there are only 24 hours in a day. >> that's right. you are making me too accessible and relatable. web i am a witch and a "b." and now, oh, my god, she has kids who love her. donald trump is the same as he was at the trump corporation, and what he has done in the cabinet, elevating women to high positions. he elevated women in real estate when other men did not. he's gracious and aware of the fact that i have children. he knows it and he's a very family-friendly pro-woman boss to have. i'm very proud of my children ay members and certainly my husband are working overtime to accommodate a situation that's

unusual for us. hats off to my male colleagues. they are the first to admit it's different for the mom. i will ask them how are the kids, they will say be i don't know. sometimes i am up on face time until midnight helping with 6th grade math and i'm proud of it. howie: the press feeds on the republican warfare over replacing obamacare.

howie: you just heard kellyanne conway talking about sexist attacks, and the focus on her looks. how did everybody react. >> with the women's protest taking a day off from work. i thought all the comments made by the congressmen, the vulgar comment you talked about was completely beyond the pale. and i have been surprised by

nancy pelosi's response to it, not defending kellyanne conway. >> i look like scooby doo, apparently. kellyanne is right about women not defending her. i'm one of them. a lot of things have been blown out of proportion. she is a lightning rod. i wish she hadn't done the facelift thing, because then she is pointing out women who do that. and that's a more sexist thing. the very thing we are guilty of and brought up in the "new york times" piece about her. howie: i think it was said as part of a joke. chelsea clinton defended her. you didn't have now coming out saying kellyanne conway was mistreated. >> i think she is taking away from the message somehow already

let's get to obamacare. the media savoring the republican dilemma replacing the program backed by paul ryan and praised by president trump. >> the republican healthcare plan has an identity crisis because the republican party has an identity crisis when it comes to ideology. >> they will end up owning the problems obamacare has. >> it's far from perfect. it must be fixed. howie: how much is the media enjoying this? >> they are loving it. i think the criticism you just showed is valid. if you talk about the freedom caucus, this is a fight that will go on for a long time about the soul of the future of repeal and replace.

howie: for six years the republicans kept repealing obamacare 5 or times. and the press said you don't have a plan. the leadership wants to strike a compromise. >> this plan is dead. howie: how do you know? >> we are not having this replacement. what the media has been running all week is trump from the campaign saying republicans don't like this, but i want even bigger, better healthcare. he want kid to stay on their parents' understand until they are eligible for medicare. howie: is the president doing a good job explaining tax credits and subsidies? >> i think it dominated a lot of the week. i think the coverage has been quite good.

they were saying that toward the end of the week, saying we need to do a better job talking about the three phases of this plan. howie: rex tillerson not talking to reporters. very unusual for the secretary of state. >> it gives people pore reason to question what he's doing. he should be bringing a pool of reporters with him. >> rex tillerson is the anti-trump when it comes to the media. he manipulates it. tillerson is a traditional ceo. he doesn't like the media and he doesn't want to be in it. but it's too his benefit because he's the absent cabinet secretary. howie: one story in the "washington post" about attorney general jeff sessions asking for the resignations of 4u.s.

attorneys, including preet bharara who is the high-profile attorney in new york who refused to give his resignation and had to be fired. is this a story or non-story. there is quite a precedent for other presidents going this route. >> it's a story to see all these attorney oz go and they have to replace them. what makes it a bigger story is the white house said first they wouldn't be doing it in this fashion. they told dianne feinstein they would do it in a staged process. but it's not worthy of the upright' getting. howie: bill clinton fired 9u.s. attorneys including jeff sessions. >> i think this is a problem when people begin -- already

distrust the media. they act like donald trump is doing something completely different. >> it's totally expected. the most famous one is causing the stir. which is the u.s. attorney from the southern district of new york, preet bharara. trump hugged him and that was well covered. but that was before steve bannon had taken complete possession of trump's soul. howie: a little bit of a leap there. now he want to fire the guy he assured was going to keep his job. howie: you will be getting twitter comments on that. thanks for coming by this sunday. after the break, wikileaks revealed the cia can spy on you through your smart phone and television.

howie: different technology can spy on americans through their smart phones and tvs according to the wikileaks dump. so let's start with wikileaks. your view of wikileaks and we'll get to how it should be covered. i think there is a tendency, the president says, let's throw this on the web because it's hot and it will get clicks and ratings. >> there is a responsibility to report on it.

but above and beyond that the press has a responsibility to not just spit out talking points that wikileaks itself provides. they have a tendency when they dump document like this to give you talking points-type executive summary. and if they are using those to base its analysis on is irresponsible. how * this is an organization that is determined to embarrass america and seems to be work in some fashion with russia. with the dump of the hillary clinton emails during the campaign. should the media be more cautious in describing wikileaks motives instead of ripping and running with it? >> absolutely. viewers should as well. american people should be more sceptical than they currently are. one of the problems i'm seeing is folks during the campaign who

supported donald trump are now jumping on board saying they have this idea because wikileaks orchestrated this dnc dump during the campaign that wikileaks is somehow pro-trump. make no mistake about it. this organization will turn on the admin on a dime. they are trafficking in classified intelligence and classified information to embarrass the united states. they are not aligned with any political party. howie: people in the political world and commend day towards on the left or white either like or don't like wikileaks. donald trump said i november wikileaks during the campaign because the democrats were the target. now the white house has said very little. do you see people in the opinion business welcoming leaks only when they heard the other side? >> of course. and it's very dangerous.

president trump will come to regret that he said that. at some point during the course of his tenure, they are going to release information that he feels will be damaging to him. and at that point he has to fall back on this statement he said earlier. that he loves them and they are a wonderful organization, and that puts him in a bind. howie: do you think they have been reluctant to criticize him because of his past history and sort of officially confirm this stuff is the real deal? >> it's a combination of all those things, i would say. i think in the political corners of the white house they are willing to embrace damaging information released about democrats. but i think it responsible folks think what you just said. nobody verified this stuff yet.

so why comment on it when it could be totally false. howie: it' portrayed as scary stuff. but wikileaks just said it had the capability of doing it. has there been an element of high fear in the way it's been covered? >> they are a very nebulous opaque. and they take it to sabotage national interest. of course they will take things when they help them in a p.r. sense. >> thanks for coming in. still to come. steven spielberg and hollywood are making i'm only in my 60's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses,

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howie: steven spielberg is going to make a movie about the pentagon papers, a secret history of the vietnam war released by a jar named daniel ellsberg. meryl streep will star as post publisher katherine graham. ellsberg leaked the documents to the "new york times." it was only after a lower court barred the "times" from publishing that the "post" got the information and published it. every parent who tried to do a tv interview from home tore skype conference call has been anxious about such a calamity.

he was doing an interview from south korea. >> what will it be for the wider region. i think one of your children just walked in. pardon me. my my apologies. howie: boy, did he stay poised. that happened to me, but it was radio. about a billion people have seen this interview because the kids barged in. that's it for this edition of "mediabuzz." let me know what you think about the show, the kellyanne conway

interview at mediabuzz@foxnews.com. thank you for joining us. >> you are watching the fox support. the first to give americans better health care, leading the charts, republicans on the president of doing what obama trump promised, obamacare replacement. >> their concerns about what will happen to the republicans american healthcare act. here's the next step, the congressional budget