we'll see what mother nature brings tomorrow. >> i'm ready. "happening now" starts now. >> we will attempt to top the moose. we are awaiting the answer to a big question about the republican plan to replace obamacare. how much will it cost? welcome to "happening now" on this monday morning i'm jon scott. >> i'm heather childress here for jenna lee. the congressional budget office is expected to put a price tag on the american healthcare act today. it's also releasing estimates how many people will be covered. house republican leaders brace for this report. they are determined to move forward with the plan to repeal and replace obamacare. senior white house correspondent

john roberts is live with more on this. another busy day. >> reporter: always a business day here at 1600 pennsylvania. the president meeting this hour with a group of people victims of obamacare. another listening session. the president tweeting out this morning, obamacare is imploding. it is a disaster and 2017 will be the worst year yet by far. republicans will come together and save the day. the idea of republicans coming together still an open question congressional budget office expected to 3:00 this afternoon. give us a couple of estimates. two very important numbers. first number is going to be the cost factor. what will this new american healthcare act cost? if the numbers are good, that could bolster republican arguments that we need to repeal and replace obamacare. if the numbers are bad, that could give a lot of fuel to democrats who are very critical of this. the white house seems to be preparing for the worst saying that the congressional budget office has not been exactly 100%

in terms of its cost estimates in the past. listen to what the director mick mulvaney study yesterday. >> if the cbo was right about obamacare there will be eight million more people on obamacare today. i love the folks at the cbo. sometimes we ask them do stuff they've not capable of doing. picturing a bill of this size is the best use of their time. >> reporter: other big number to pay attention to how many people will be covered but the new plan and how that compares to obamacare. republicans seem to be prepared for a bad assessment on that front as well. listen to what paul ryan said yesterday. >> the one thing i'm certain will happen, cbo will say not as many people will get covered. this isn't a government mandate. what we are trying to achieve is bringing down the cost of care and insurance. not the government mandates but by having more choice and

competition. by lowering the cost, you improve the access to healthcare. >> reporter: we talked just a second ago about bringing republicans together. there's a lot of divisions over this. the house speech oh speaker want this bill voted on. members of the freedom caucus saying we need more changes before we'll be coming on board. tomorrow night, the white house will host members of the freedom caucus at the tulane bowling alley. it's part of the white house complex here for a night of bowling, pizza, budget and healthcare talk. we'll see if they can get a few more people on board. >> sounds like a party. thank you so much john. >> jon: house republicans gather support for the new healthcare plan. they are facing a lot of push back from democrats, from voters at townhall meetings and even lawmakers within their own party. gop still trying to reach consensus on how far the healthcare bill should go.

>> it's not like we love obamacare. it means don't throw the baby out with the bath water. don't kill medicaid expansion. you have to be ability to subsidize people with lower income levels >> go back to the original idea of obamacare supposed to be that people afford to go to doctor. they can't. they can afford to have coverage. but they can't afford to go to the doctor. >> the u.s. en editor of "wall street journal" join us now that paul ryan promise this bill will pass congress. he said it will. are you as convinced as the speaker is? >> this is a moment in time right. paul ryan is trying to stress caucus that if he don't do it now, this is our best opportunity. we may not get another opportunity. he's counting on people believing that and falling in like with him. to your point, there's a lot of people who say, let's do it right. not do it fast. epeople within the house and

senate who think there's a lot of things this bill doesn't do. >> jon: lot of republican members of congress campaigned on platform of repeal and replace obamacare. president trump certainly campaigned on that. this is not exactly a repeal is it? >> no. it's a patch. it's a fix. the big thing that paul ryan in particular is trying to emphasize here is that this removes the mandate. the part where it becomes another promise from the government that will take care of people. instead they're trying to put in the health savings account and tax credits that give you help to buy health insurance but don't require you to buy health insurance. >> jon: paul ryan said we should expect to see some number of millions of people who aren't going to be covered under this republican proposal because there is no mandate that you buy insurance under it. some people are voluntarily going to leave the ranks of the insurance. >> that's the point he's making for the conservatives in this

particular. look, we are not requiring this. people will have free choice. if they choose not to get health insurance, that's up to them. we're going to make it possible for them to have it if they want it. >> jon: and the costs are the question. how much is it going to cost? >> that's what we're waiting for. when the cbo report comes out, it's going to show things like the number of insured will be reduced over a decade or maybe 15 million as we saw from the brookings institute. one things that the conservatives is worried about, if you creating tax credit that could result in somebody getting a refund on their taxes, what does that do to the deficit and the cost of the program? there's a lot of questions about how this work. other piece, governor kasich talking about, the medicaid expansion. when you start to roll back how much money the federal government reimburses each state, it call into question what kind of services they'll be able to provide. >> jon: i remember john kasich

was a congressman. he was a budget hawk. but this medicaid expansion, which is costing the federal government billions, taxpayer money, he likes that. >> he put that -- one of the governors who adopted the medicaid expansion he's trying to say there's way you can do this that is fair does not have to violate the conservative principles of forcing the mandating. he has put millions of ohioans into that program. he's worried about what will happen to them if they are pulled out. >> jon: those people presumably will be among those who will be considered by the cbo not to have insurance under the new plan? >> that's we're expecting when we get the estimates. the reduction in amount of federal funds going into medicaid will reduce the number of people receiving medicaid. >> jon: what about the president? he has suggested that if this bill doesn't pass congress, he is happy to let obamacare

collapse. is that realistic? is it possible? >> this is the prediction. he said that before,s it collapsing on its own. the gamble there is what if it doesn't. everything continues as it is. that will not give the republicans another shot at rewriting this bill. if it continues to operate. as many people in it as it is now, it's a very difficult proposition to suddenly turn it off. >> jon: the republicans would face the blowback if they got both houses of congress and the presidency, people aren't necessarily going to assign the blame to the beamier -- democrats who passed it? >> that's right. when you have full control as they do now, there are expectations. voters voted on part of this repeal and replace policy. they're expecting that to get done. this is the first issue that they took up. now they own it whether they want to or not. >> jon: fascinating to see what the congressional budget office

says. glenn hall from "wall street journal," thank you. >> find out 3:00 p.m. today. iraqi forces making major advances to fight isis. that's commanders iraqi troops retain more than third of west mosul from isis fighters. the battle now move into narrow alleyway. no room for armor vehicle. connor powell has more from the mideast bureau. >> reporter: bad weather and heavy rain today slowed iraqi advance. the operations retake the western half of mosul is progressing extremely well. particularly in comparison to the operations retake the other half the eastern side of mosul. which took more than a hundred days already iraqi forces have taken control some 30% of western mosul. just about three weeks or so. but that fight is beginning to

increase in terms of the difficulty as iraqi forces move into the old city area of western mosul. the roads are much smaller. the alleyways are stone pavements are armored vehicles can't go easily. isis is using booby-traps to slow down the advances. u.s. commanders and iraqi commanders saying this operation is going much better than iraqi operations have gone to retake places like -- we are beginning to see become more difficult. iraqi forces have paid a heavy price to retake mosul both the eastern and western half. casualty rates are extremely high. the iraqi forces have really taken a lot of sort of daniel to -- damage to their force. there is growing u.s. coalition force. more marines are heading into iraq to help with this

operation. we're seeing an increase in special forces on the ground there by the u.s. and other coalition countries who are really helping advance this iraqi operation in a way that we didn't see really in the fall and early winter. so the progress is very good. make no mistake, this is an operation that will take more time over the course of next few weeks and months. it is on to u.s. coalition will probably work with russia and turkey to really root out isis in their home syrian base of raqqa. we'll see the probably nail in the coffin against isis. >> we have colonel ralph peters up to talk about that. thank you so much for joining us connor. >> jon: top republican challenges the presidenten -- president on his wiretapping claims.

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>> there's a lot of aspects that requires further scrutiny and so far i don't think the american people gotten all the answers. i think there's a lot more shoes to drop from this feed. >> jon: that was arizona senator john mccain who has been an aggressive voice in countering russian influence in the u.s. mccain wants trump administration to show evidence for the president's claim that president obama ordered him wiretapped. joining us now greg garrett. can congress legally force president trump to turn over evidence to back up his claims?

>> no the intelligence committee submitted a request by letter. they didn't issue a subpoena. which brings back visions of richard nixon and the tapes of the white house and there was subpoena. he fought it. it went to the u.s. supreme court. here it's a request. it has no legal force and effect. even if there was a subpoena, he could invoke executive privilege, which is a broad protection of white house communications. none of that is likely going to happen. here's why. week from today, the intelligence committee opens a hearing. among the first witnesses the director of the fbi. the fbi are the one who conduct wiretaps domestically. the question will be asked did you wiretap the trump campaign. the answer that we know of so far is no. that's what james comb me comeyy to say. he met with gang of eight. afterwards paul ryan said, i've

seen no evidence of wiretaps. >> jon: senator mccain is asking for more information saying the president can provide it. here's more from the senator. >> i have no reason to believe that the charge is true. i also believe that the president of the united states could clear this up in a minute. all he has to do is pick up the phone, call the director of the cia, director of national intelligence and say okay, what happened? >> jon: could he clear it up a minute? >> he could. he has power to eclassify any wiretap documents including fisa warrants. otherwise pick up the telephone and ask the questions the intelligence community and the fbi and the department of justice. all of this seems to emanate from inauguration day story by the "new york times." which was wiretapped data used in inquiry of trump aides.

it seems to suggest that trump aides were wiretapped when in the body of the story makes it pretty clear that their conversations were heard on wiretaps of other individuals. like we know the fbi routinely wiretaps russian agents including the russian ambassador sergei -- was anything wrong or criminal when trump aides had conversation with russian government officials. we no the answer from james clapper the head of dni under president obama, he said there's no evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and russian government. >> jon: there's another controversy bubbling that people might have heard about. jeff sessions fired number of u.s. attorneys including the u.s. attorney in new york preet bharara over the weekend. bharara did not go quietly.

this isn't surprising at all. what surprising is bharara decided to make political theory of it all by refusing to submit his resignation when asked and forcing the trump administration, attorney general jeff session to fire him. he takes to twitter to make hay over the whole thing. it's all lot of nonsense because this happens routinely in every administration. >> because they want to own appointees in office. these guys are political appointees. president bill clinton fired all of them at once. there's always outrage by the opposing party. it's all just manufactured outrage. nothing unusual here. >> jon: what happens to the cases that bharara is working on? >> these are huge offices that handle much of the important cases. u.s. attorney actually never prosecutes a case in court himself. they simply oversee it.

the oversight continues with the prosecutors pull all the case -- all the cases involving wall street all the cases bharara had look into the democratic governor of new york andrew cuomo and bill de blasio, those will likely continue under the leadership of the acting u.s. attorney until new one is seated. >> jon: he will likely be able to find work elsewhere. >> he's going to make a lot of money in private industry. >> jon: greg jarrett, fox news anchor editorring. >> heather: it maybe your money. it's covering you -- costing you more to get it. atm fees hit all time highs. that's not only thing costing you more at the banks. new fears about north korea kim jong-un after the nuclear fest. we'll go in-depth.

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nuclear war. joining us now retired lieutenant colonel michael waltz. preparing for nuclear war. is that over stating the danger. >> reporter: i don't think it's overstating the danger at all. with these missile tests that north korea just launched, they really cross the line from kim jong-un just trying to grab international headlines and pay attendance to me to a serious threat. here's why, one, i think a lot of the naturals are right -- analysts are right that north korea is practicing a capability. they used to be able -- formally they were launching from a single site. now they're launching from multiple sites and conducting a normal series of exercises. then the third piece is that if you look at the ranges, these missiles are flying into the ocean. if you map the ranges out, they

correspond to u.s. military bases and ports where we would bring reinforcement. if you put those pieces together, i'm very concerned. at the same time, the u.s. is conducting a series of exercises with the south koreans called foul eagle. that's first strike. >> heather: this is their response to that? >> reporter: we have both sides racing to who can strike w.h.o.o first. >> heather: case who brinks first. the secretary of state tillerson is headed to that area to meet with counterparts in china and south korea. why they need him. what does he hope will come of this? >> reporter: the chinese don't necessarily control north korea but they're really only folks north korean regime will long to. from diplomatic standpoint

that's really our only hope. at the same time we have a lot of issues with china. we kind of rattled their cage between militarizing south china sea ramping up its escalation with japan, cyberattacks. we have a lot of issues to deal with with the chinese. that's with we need overarching strategy. i understand the administration maybe hosting the chinese premier to get these things on the table. >> heather: in terms of the trump administration, what positive steps do you see them taking in terms of not allowing this to happen with north korea? >> reporter: we're in the middle of deploying. the administration has moved forward with the deployment of the thad terminal high altitude missile defense. they're putting it in south korea. it has incredibly long range and

could hit these missiles as they're coming off the launch pad. the chinese are upset about it. the russians are upset about it because it can reach into their territory. we've been working with the chinese since the clinton administration to try to turn north korea's missile program and nuclear program off. it hasn't worked. i'm glad to see us moving forward. the other thing i wanted to mention, also the leaks from snowden, the cia cyber packing tools just leaked, that represents an important middle ground to where we could have really delayed and attacked covertly this program and now these folks who think they're worried about privacy and other concerns have put all our tools out on the table. now we've lost that option. since we have the diplomatic option with the chinese and the military option, which is really kind of scary.

>> heather: we have the whole cyberwarfare option versus knocking one physicalle the how the sky. we don't know how kim jong-un will respond to that. >> reporter: first time we launched one of the ballistic missile defenses and knocked his missiles out, how is someone that unstable respond? he has enough artillery maps on the border he could obliterate south korea's capital of seoul. that's why having these covert options was so important. whomever thinks they're doing the world a favor exposing them, endangering the world. >> heather: appreciate your insight. >> jon: news outlooks firing back against president trump calling his actions and attacks on the media unprecedented. one baltimore sun media writer said the obama administration was worse. our media panel weighs in.

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>> heather: quick look what is still to come this hour of "happening now." iraqi troops making big gains in the fight against isis. another middle east crisis is on the way for the u.s.

tampa police launching major investigation in this woman. plus this flying at the nascar 400 after kyle bush spun out on the track. the argument after race that left bush with a bloody forehead. >> jon: president trump catching some criticism for his comments about the press sense taking office. some news outlet calls his attacks on mainstream media unprecedented. baltimore sun media critics said not so fast. former president have done worse. >> with trump, the thing is people have taken it to this extreme thing. almost gotten hysterical about it. if i was him, i'd say, every time we engage the press, we are attacked. we're shredded. let's let the press go on its own and see how they like it. why engage at that level if we're going to get pounded.

that's a reasonable thing for him to say. you know this thing when we say, he's the worst war on the press ever. i wrote about that last week. it's not the worst war on the press. he hasn't done what obama done. not yet. >> jon: what do you think he had to say. let's bring in -- let's start with you. his point, the obama administration, although it might have been a little smoother in its relationship with the press, was much more under handed in dealing with the press. >> it's a really good point. words are different than actions. obama talked a lot about being one of the most traitor presidents ever. he was anything but that. he was very tough on reporters and whistleblowers using subpoenas, lawsuits.

meanwhile trump is essentially talking like a latin american strong man. using language like enemies of the people for the reporters. this is tough language. don't forget that during the campaign, he essentially had a blacklist where some reporters were not media outlets were not allowed on the campaign. these are serious actions. i do wonder about the significance about all of it. i think both president have hurt very important institution. >> jon: let's go to the twitter. the president tweeted out something earlier this morning. that relates to all this. he wrote, it is amazing how rude much of the media is to my very hard working representatives. be nice. you will do much better. ellen, is that appropriate advice for the media covering his presidency? >> i suppose it is. whatever kind of advice the president wants to give.

remember, it's not a matter of who is worse president obama and he went after fox's james rosen or president trump. i think that both are bad and you got to take a look at both of them. >> jon: the way this president refers to the media, ellen, referring to the media as enemy of the people. does he just sort of ask for some of the bad coverage that he gets? >> well, i don't think it's a very wise move to refer to the media that way. nor do i think it's okay for this white house or any white house, the other white house did it too, to go around the way the journalists credential each other pen that goes to the white house. the white house both under obama often trump have issued direct passes to media without going to the capital.

>> jon: the president has been described having this unprecedented war on the media. he disagrees. is there anything comparable that you can point to? >> i think -- certainly the language that he has used has been -- unprecedented is early to say. i think his point was there's a difference between words and action. obama used a lot of action with lawsuits going after james rosen at the "new york times" and holding subpoenas. trump used a lot of language. he has used action as well barring certain media outlets from the campaign. we had incident few weeks ago where certain outlets were not allowed -- informal briefing. there is a difference. both presidents were bad and let's put things in context. both are really hurting this

really key and important institution. >> jon: when he can reach out to the people the way he does by a twitter and get his message out there and drive the news coverage of the day. is it any wonder that he seems to have such disdain for traditional media? >> i think that we have to remember, even though we're called the fourth of state as news media, whatever we have done, when i first got to the white house, i was told having free press is essential to democracy. that's what we need to do. >> jon: i'm not obviously disagreeing with you. the free press needs to be doing its job. when the president can go straight to the people via twitter as he's so capable doing, i just wonder if is it surprising that he has such

disdain for traditional media? >> i don't know whether it's surprisingeing or not. he better start not having disdain for the traditional media. we are an important part of democracy. the sooner the best recognized by this white house, the better it is for all of us and democracy. >> jon: i talked to people met president trump. they say despite all the public bluster when you are behind closed doors with the man, he's very charming. very level headed -- not at all like he is in public. i wonder if the same thing might apply to his relationships with the media. >> he's definitely a personable guy. he has that. we've all seen him in the different press conferences where he does not mince words. he is strong. just back to ellen's point. every president that has had a bit of disdain relationship with

the press. every president felt that the press didn't treat them fairly. this is part what is about the fourth of state. that's a healthy thing. >> jon: our media panel today. we'll keep an eye on it. thank you. >> heather: florida woman missing after witness see her forced into her car with her hands tie and screaming for help. who the police think abducted her. what happens to isis after terrorists forced from strongholds in iraq and syria. a. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts.

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information to dial 911. man accused of jumping the white house fence is expected in court today. 26-year-old jonathan tram was carrying two cans of mace and backpack with a letter for the president. salt lake city, utah police asking for help locating 14-year-old emily who went missing over the weekend. she arrived from north carolina saturday to receive mental health treatment. >> heather: moving now to the middle east where u.s. backed iraqi troops are making some major gains against isis fighters in mosul. this head sign said the coming middle east crisis after isis is gone, the new york post reporting that the islamic state caliphate is dying well deserved death. what used to be syria will fall.

remaining outpost will be purged. isolated terror attacks will continue but the physical caliphate will be erased. after isis itselfed biggest loser will be the united states. joining me now lieutenant colonel ralph peters. thank you very much for joining us. once the caliphate is no longer, what happens? >> after the caliphate is defeated, after isis has been essentially crushed as a military organization, the russians win, the iranians win, assad wins in syria. militias wins in iraq. turkey may win temporarily. we're gone. we're being used as tools to defeat while russians are crushing the opposition fighters we supported in syria.

the fundamental problem is this, we have not had a wise forward-looking policy towards middle east since the truman administration. egotten it wrong time after time. we're really getting this one wrong. washington doesn't grip the future. it clings to the past. states design -- dysfunctional borders, artificial states create by dead europeans for their own interest. we pretend iraq and syria will magically become healthy states. >> heather: that's what i wanted to ask you. let's not cling to the past in this segment. what do we need to do to move forward? >> the first thi do is stop doing stupid things. like trying to force these resurrect these dead border. the border between iraq and

syria is gone. it may -- what happened with the border drawn by dead europeans, they force people together who didn't want to be together. or they drove people apart like the kurds, syria, iraq and turkey. we're seeing in this multilayered silver -- civil war, middle east trying to fighter's way back to some sort of organic help, to borders make sense to ministates that really reflect the will of the local people. we are standing in the way. i'm not advocating an aggressive policy towards the middle east. we tried to fix things. we can't. i'm saying -- >> heather: who's role is it to determine those boundaries? >> the local people allly have to decide.

-- ultimately have to decide. i going to be bloody. it is bloody. it will be bloody. we can't fix it but we need to do is concentrate on denying our enemies such as iran. iran is emerging from this crisis with a new empire. iran is now on the tour of eastern mediterranean for the first time in two millennial. russia is back in the middle east in a powerful way. >> heather: which is a huge concern. russia and iran are together. >> yes they are. we have alliance to get isis. russia is nuts. we indulge in fantasies here. don't cling to the past. don't spend american blood trying to resurrect the past. >> heather: what d do we do with

bashar assad? >> we will not do anything. we blew our chance. obama administration blew great chance to get rid of assad. in the first eight to six months, assad was doomed. we did nothing. we didn't give it that extra push. as a result of which half million people died. syria is not going to be restored. isis grew up in the vacuum. now it's up to the trump administration. bottom line is this, can the trump administration look forward instead of backward and forge a working pragmatic realistic policy that works to the advantage of the united states and the middle east? >> heather: it is complicated for sure. thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it. thanks. >> jon: the fight over the president' revised executive order on travel and immigration what several state states are dg just days before the ban goes

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>> jon: six minutes away from top of the hour. >> i lo the count down. any time the congressional budget office is expected to show us what the gop plan will cost. already some republicans are down playing that report. what does that mean? what can we expect? >> plus the aclu offering resistance training for anti-trump protesting. >> we're going to ask our lucky guy. he's funny. it's great "outnumbered" top of the hour. >> i'm going to sit in this chair while he's on your show.

>> jon: thank you. >> heather: there's some new information on legal challenges to the president's revised executive order on travel and immigration. with about half a dozen states including washington looking to stop the ban from going into effect, just days from now. dan springers live for us from seattle. >> reporter: president trump's travel ban is scheduled to take effect on thursday but two major legal challenges stand in the way. now wednesday shaping up as a big day in federal court. the state of hawaii seeking a temporary restraining order to block the travel ban. the state has to show it would be harmed by the executive order and likely to win with merit of case. american citizens who's married to a woman from syria. they argue travel ban would prevent all of her relatives from coming to the u.s. and suit plays on emotions. it reads in part, president trump's executive order is

subjecting a portion of hawaii's population to discrimination second class treatment a violation of the constitution and immigration and nationality act. oral argument will take place wednesday in front of federal judge darrell watson who was appointed by president obama. the other legal challenges taking place in washington state where the travel ban was blocked by a federal judge. that ruling was upheld by court of appeal. attorney general filed a brief arguing the injunction is still in effect and should remain in effect because there's little difference between the first executive order and the second executive order. >> heather: we'll be right back. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine.

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