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out of time. >> it's okay. >> bret: that's it from us, everyone. 9:00 a.m. through noon, varney business. i will see you tomorrow. "the five" is next. >> dana: i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, eric bolling, bob beckel, and greg gutfeld, it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five" ." how much is the republican plan to replace obamacare going to cost? we just found out what the cbo estimates, congressional budget office released a report on the american health care act short while ago. john roberts has it and joins us now from the white house. to speak we are expected to hear from the omb director mick
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mulvaney and hhs secretary tom price outside the west wing and a couple minutes. three big numbers to keep in mind from the new cbo estimate. three or $37 billion, that's the amount of money that will be saved between 2017 and 2027 by ending obamacare subsidies. here's the bad numbers, at least for the republicans, you will hear democrats talk a lot about this. because of an end to medicaid expansion and caps of my cbo estimate 14 million more people will be without health insurance in 2018 and by 2026, that number will grow to 24 million. in total, 52 million people will not have health insurance by 2026, compared with 28 million if obamacare stayed in place. premium increases, cbo estimates a single person not in a group, that means a person is not paying in through a group health insurance at their employer or something like that, they will
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see premiums rise in 2018 and 2019 by 15 to 20%. the cbo also says because of provisions to pay insurance companies for people in my high-risk pool, premiums will go down. paul ryan saying positive things about the cbo estimate. we will see what the omb director and hhs second have to say. the caveat that the republicans are putting out there is this is phase one and a lot of a lot of the cost-saving items will not come in till phase two and phase three. doing things to lower the cost of health care in total. we will be hearing more about it in the next couple minutes. >> health and human services secretary tom price has the plan won't cost americans more out-of-pocket. >> i firmly believe no one will be worse off financially in the process we are going through, understanding they will have choices that they can select the
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kind of coverage they want for themselves and their family, not the government forces them to buy. there are costs that need to come down we believe are going to be able to do it through this system. >> dana: president address the replacement effort at the white house earlier today. >> the press is making obamacare look so good all good all of a sudden. i am watching the news. looks so good. they are showing these reports, and the republicans frankly are putting themselves in a very bad position. i tell this to tom price all the time. by appealing -- repealing obamacare. people aren't going to see the devastating effects of obamacare so that presses making it look so wonderful so that if we ended everyone is going to say oh, remember how great obamacare used to be. remember how great it used to be? it was so great. the fact is, obamacare is a disaster and i say this to the republicans all the time, by repealing it, getting rid of it, ending it, everyone is going to say it used to be so great, but it wasn't great.
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>> dana: i was in africa for a week. i came back, this issue is still on the front page. i want to ask you, eric. if i can set it up with more of what john roberts was saying. he added, paul ryan did, that when people have more choices, costs go down. that's what this report shows. as we have long said, there will be a stable transition so no one has the rug pulled out from under them. this is a tough number for them in terms of the headline but do you think they will be able to drive home this message that they want people to hear? phase one and we believe competition will drive down the price. >> eric: i think they need to scrap it. paul ryan and the leadership pulled the wool over president trump size. they said it was going to be better, cheaper, ensure the same amount of people and it's not. it's basically the same price. $33.7 billion a year. one of the things, the ways we
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showed obamacare was imploding, fewer people were going to be insured in 2026. that is true. 28 million fewer people would've been insured under obamacare. the problem is, 52 million people are going to be uninsured under this plan according to the cbo right now. is there a plan out there can work? yeah. but go back, start over, and come back with a plan that works. free-market plan takes into account competitiveness across state lines, tort reform. who is talking about tort reform? malpractice insurance is killing doctors. here's a good one, how about making medical providers post the costs of what they do online? do know how much it cost to have, i don't know, an mri? do you know how much it costs to have any sort of procedure? >> dana: not the doctor so much as the insurance companies. >> eric: it is both.
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>> dana: let me ask kimberly. the president is sticking by them, but republicans and what they would say is this is not taking into account the things he can do from the oval office as part of administrative actions to try to deal with some of this obamacare plan that was in place. a lot of it had to wait until tom price got in position. now he's there. there are amendments they can work through to try to improve upon the bill to get to the point where eric is saying. >> kimberly: taking for his word but also you would like to see what the recipe is and know exactly what you're going to put in the crockpot. people want him to say, we rejected what the democrats put forward an obamacare. how about something markedly different, how is it markedly different? there has to be competition across state lines. to me, that should be step one, not stage two, three, or some kind of amendment or order from the oval office. i think people want to know up front.
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i don't think the cbo numbers really help. it's hard, paul ryan is trying to sell it all day long but this shouldn't be that type of -- that tough of a sale. republicans need to deliver. this is catastrophic for the party if they don't get this pushed through in time, 2018. >> dana: greg, i was thinking earlier today about obviously there's pressure on any president. particular pressure on president trump because he can communicate to people like nobody else, but as he said last week, health care is extremely complicated. they are asking him to shoulder a lot of it. >> greg: cbo stands for congratulations, barack obama. the hero walks away in slow motion, that is barack obama and the explosion was obamacare. he left that behind because he knows that an entitlement, once you put it in there, it doesn't have to be any good, you are
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stuck with it. at this point, did donald trump could make this into a won by saying barack obama made obamacare but he's going to make obamacare great. not again because it never was great. back to my original metaphor, government program is bubblegum in your hair. you can't get it out. you need to cut the whole thing out. then you have a big blank spot there. obama knows that. he knows it's there forever. we have to be fair about this, they are talking about competition. it comes later. they are doing it because of reconciliation. they are not going "we better not do competition." they are trying to figure out a way through reconciliation. >> dana: bob, i don't mean to cut you off but they are saying it's a live press conference with mick mulvaney. >> bob: thank you very much. >> why not do it all at once so
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we understand the whole package? >> the fact of the matter is, we are working on the regulations right now. we had a proposed rule out there to narrow the windows of the insurers are able to stay in markets they are having to pull out. one-third of the counties in the country, over 1,000 counties, only have one insurer offering coverage on the exchangers. five states only have one insurer offering coverage on the exchanges. the fact is, those folks have no choice whatsoever. federal government has destine them to only have one opportunity to purchase coverage. if that's not what they want, then tough lock. that's not our plan. allowing individuals the opportunity to purchase coverage they want for themselves and their family in a market that offers them an array of choices. >> are you encouraging lawmakers to disregard this report?
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>> no. we will read the report, look into the report be on the top lines and have further comment tomorrow and talk with our colleagues about why we believe the entire plan we have recommended moving forward and adopting is one that will provide greater opportunity for folks to purchase the kind of coverage they want and put patients and families and doctors in charge of health car health care. thank you all. >> dana: i love a person that can calm his own press conference. that's it. usually it is left of the press person to be the bad guy. i'm sorry i was the bad guy and had to cut you off. bob, the cbo says fewer covered, more expensive. >> greg: wait a second. i am hearing is a press conference. we have to go to nasa. >> bob: weather report. the real problem is 58 million. it is not just for democrats.
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republican governors, they want to cut medicaid off, expanded in states, they are going to be upset because they are going to have a lot uninsured people in their hands. in some ways, that's obama's curse. expanded medicaid like that. now you're saying they want to cut it. conservatives want to cut it in 2018. that is real politics, real votes. budget deficit, that's a drop in the bucket. i -- i don't know if it's a campaign issue but 58 million people do. >> eric: there's a great opportunity for president trump to say you guys promise something, you promise that you are going to deliver to the american people something better. this is not better. we are not ready yet. stay with obamacare and let people eat obamacare for another year, year and half insane in the meantime are going to find something better. politically, the worst thing in the world to do is push it through and have it be equal or worse than obamacare.
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put this on the democrats. you guys are the one who wanted obamacare, you pushed it through. now we have it's and it's going to take us a little bit longer to replace it with something better. in the meantime, it's yours. if you kick it down the road and you don't fix it, you're going to get destroyed in 2018. >> bob: that would be better politics all the way around as they were just not going to go forward. trump against his own republicans. >> dana: he has been very thoughtful for month saying it would be politically expedient for me, to say hands off. he said it again today. >> eric: leadership said they were going to deliver the complete house and senate with this replacement bill and they didn't have it. they thought they had it for whatever reason but they never had it. >> dana: if he does that, what you are suggesting, how do you put the blame on the democrats if he is saying the republicans
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tricked me? >> eric: in the meantime you have obamacare which we know is in the process of imploding anyway. let's not bail them out by turning the blame to obamacare to trumpcare when it's not. >> eric: ryan's argument was if we don't do it now, were going to get killed. we promise the base. ryan care. if you're going to say that, you need something that works. he can force it as much as he wants but we are not too far off from the elections and i will tell you. senator cooper from kentucky is right. you don't want to walk this plank right now. take it back, take some time, think about it. >> dana: then you end up with, what greg was saying, probably nothing. >> greg: it is the car on blocks in your front yard and everybody has to tinker with it. it's not going away. i don't see this as an apocalypse for the republicans. it comes in phases were jumping all over them because they didn't put it all out. the reason they didn't is they
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wouldn't get it through. >> bob: 58 million is an apocalypse. >> greg: if you are counting on nothing else happening. that is like saying we are all going to starve to death that we don't eat dinner. >> bob: the most expedient political number for the democrats. >> eric: most expedient political number, forget 58 million. next year, 14 million people they will lose their health care under the plan. >> bob: what percentages medicaid? >> eric: half. >> dana: we are going to have more on this later on fox news. speakers for speaker ryan will n bret baier. past administrations -- why is there so much outrage in the justices? whoa, this thing is crazy.
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♪ >> kimberly: friday, president trump announced 46
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u.s. attorneys to step down. common practice for new administrations but it sent the mainstream media into mass hysteria. >> and abrupt changing of the guard at the justice department. >> 46 u.s. attorneys to resign. >> kimberly: former clinton and obama did the same thing. clinton had jeff sessions fired in 1983 when he took office. there only seems to be outrage when it's a republican president who makes this kind of move. look at politicos headline. "obama to replace bush u.s. attorney." political referring to it now is in ousting. but the verbal gymnastics began. dana, you have some experience in this. and you've talked a lot about four when this went on during the administration you are part of. >> dana: slightly different with me and i think the trump
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administration has handled it better than we did in 20006. the difference being it's not uncommon for the president when they first come into make the decision and clinton did it. everybody seemed to have forgotten that. obama did it. the news media wrote it as if it was a release. i don't give the white house any style points, no bonus for that but i do think one thing that was a big deal in this case was preet bharara had a meeting with president trump, came out to the cameras and said he was asked to stay. he probably didn't think he was going to be asked to stay so who knows what he gave up in order to stay. that he finds out the rug is pulled out from under him. where the trump administration did better than we did, after the midterm election the president had decided to remove a handful of u.s. attorneys, i think it was seven. instead of saying they serve at the pleasure of the president and we're not going to answer any more questions about it,
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walk away. instead the attorney general at the time said it was based on an appraisal of the performance and we went down that rabbit hole over and over again. huge scandal, people got subpoenaed. i was asked question by u.s. attorney in connecticut about eight under oath after i left the white house. they did a lot better job. i would say this, if you fire all 46. that means that what comes up behind her usually first assistance, very qualified but they are not political appointees. these are career civil servants where the goal of the administration would be how do you a .46 u.s. attorneys to be in there that are your appointees? it takes a while. >> kimberly: takes some time. eric, obviously this is something that happens politically. what's your opinion on whether or not it's the right thing to do and you should be able to bring your own people in? >> eric: maxine waters in 20009 said i can't believe we haven't fired all of the u.s. attorneys. changing of the guard. taking her example, they said
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let's get rid of all 46. move those people out. the issue is that preet bharara is a high-profile attorney, brings a lot of cases. at one point he had a meeting with president trump. nobody knows what they talked about. when he was asked to tender his resignation, he said no. when he said fire me, the implication is that he wants to run for governor of new york and he is going to use this fight with the trump administration as part of a profile raising situation. >> kimberly: it's going to be tough because there is also cuomo still involved. >> bob: he said now i know what it feels like to be, the commission that was investigating corruption in new york and they were fired by cuomo. the two things that got him in trouble, there was no reason for anybody to be absent. it happens every time they change administrations. they should ask for them all on
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the same day. in this case, you've got a guy hanging out. he's got a case someone connected to trump's business. does it on a friday, why do you want to give her the weekend? >> dana: that used to be a good time to do it. >> kimberly: it was on all weekend, the coverage of it, so it seems like a political grandstanding. he says you're going to have to fire me. but seems to be aggrieved because he claims he was told to say with them and was pushed back from the administration, saying it's a misunderstanding. >> greg: i don't care. i honestly don't care about him. >> bob: your investigation goes away. it >> greg: the alarming reaction over the firings is nothing but good news for trump. what is their alarm about? they are upset that lawyers were fired. somehow i don't think america is going to get behind you over that same outrage.
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it's like oh, my god. you fired lawyers? what's next? did you fire cockroaches? people don't have a positive view of lawyers. >> kimberly: cockroaches that's a little much. >> greg: i am sorry, you were a prosecutor. you are one of the good ones. prosecutors getting fired in d.c., i think they're going to find work. every story is more outrageous than the next. then you look at the story and say it's not a big deal. they did this under bush. they are exhausting their outrage muscles and marginalizing their sincere outrage. something big happens, no one will listen to you because you've cried wolf. >> bob: these guys will start cases right before the election, big time profile cases. >> kimberly: they are all going to get jobs and white-collar law firms and become partners in make
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>> eric: welcome back. time for the fastest 7 minutes on television. first up, she is the first daughter. she is beautiful, successful, brilliant. according to "saturday night live," she is this. >> she doesn't crave the spotlight but we see her. oh, how we see her. a feminist, and advocate, a champion for women. she is loyal, devoted but probably should have bounced after the whole "access hollywood" thing.
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also available in a cologne for jerrod. >> eric: k.g., your thoughts. >> kimberly: not nice. weird. scarlett looked pretty but i don't know what else to say about it. why are they taking hits at her. she's the best thing going. >> greg: that's what you do. she is a target. she is politically out there. lorne michaels and "saturday night live" must be so thrilled president trump won because if you look at their ratings. trump saved "saturday night live"'s jobs. it wasn't for donald trump, those hacks would be doing open mic night in scranton. >> dana: i didn't think it was funny. during one of the interviews she said i am a daughter, not a clone. that was one of her more effective and genuine explanations for her role.
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if the white house could highlight a little bit more some of the things she does. a couple weeks ago she hosted a meeting, encouraged her father to come, and he did. human trafficking, and issue a lot of people care about. it got swallowed up in the other news of the day but she's doing some good things everyone could agree on. >> kimberly: good point. >> bob: "saturday night live" lives again. they moved the whole show around it. >> eric: making waves today, the video is unremarkable through much of it until towards the end where the character assassinates the trump-like character. ♪
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>> eric: all right. >> kimberly: that's horrible. >> eric: greg, you are a first amendment protector. >> greg: even if you bring up the corollary, people will be upset. kid rock pulling a gun on president obama. how about doing that? could you imagine somebody doing that? may be i don't know ted nugent pulling a gun on hillary clinton. imagine that. where is the liberal outrage when it comes to civility. remember when sarah palin did her emblem, looked like a target and they said it encouraged shooting. i get art but i'm just pointing out the hypocrisy is pretty obvious. >> bob: you don't get art for you don't like being in scranton. >> greg: i love scranton. >> bob: i had a drug dealer
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named snoop dogg. he was arrested. >> dana: so did i. >> bob: you did? i didn't think so. shouldn't be making fun of shooting anybody, especially the president of the united states. >> greg: especially when you were acquitted for murder and some wonder why. >> eric: dana, some kids. they watch this, they look up to snoop. talk about deceptive sizing. >> dana: they say politics flows from culture and their wonder why there's an incivility problem. >> kimberly: i didn't like at all. i liked the dog thing, >> eric: van jones and i did a celebrity thing for boxing. we flew to vegas. i am in the red gloves because i am a red state guide. i got them in the corner, i'm hitting him. he kicks me and knocks me out.
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>> bob: did he really kick you? >> eric: i'm just kidding. people are in an outrage about training the orangutans. >> dana: i don't like this. >> eric: anyone? >> bob: i don't like using animals. i did a political commercial wants and all they did was rip up the sets. >> greg: the problem is not what you are seeing in the flight. it's the training. what did they do to make things do the things they are doing. they get whipped, they get hit. in the shopping list of human outrage and world injustice, this is a little bit below isis, i would think. and christians being massacred, women being executed or stoned. gays being thrown off buildings. i would have my outrage up there. >> eric: does it look like me and van jones?
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>> kimberly: i can't. i am not touching that. >> eric: next time, i am picking the stories for fastest seven. preparing huge budget cuts to drain the swamp. that's next.
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contraction? it is like trump is a tornado having a baby on the government's head. the numbers that aren't out but my guess is the proposal targets the edge of the budget. it's like ordering the extra-large meat lovers pizza with four cheeses but holding the olives because you're on a diet. the federal government never shrinks. the interest is killing us. when you are running out of anything, like toilet paper, you notice you start using less. but you never run out of the budget. it is the giant invisible wallet in the sky. bureaucracy turned into an episode of hoarders, the mess keeps growing and all we can do is remove one glad bag full of toenail clippings. if we are going to spend, let's spend it on the stuff that guarantees the rest. new technologies, the stuff that protects us from cyber, bio, nuclear terror. for going to go into debt, let's do it on the stuff that matters. more protection, less pbs.
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no one likes to do the hard work of cutting entitlements. >> bob: i am still on toenails. >> kimberly: or toilet paper. >> bob: every administration tries to do something. members of congress protect them. it's not a partisan thing. they're going to try to do this. it's not going to work. they are starting to cut things like the coast guard. you've got to be careful with this bread you talk about the war on drugs and the new cut the coast guard. i don't get it. >> greg: eric, any surprises? stuff in there that might be -- i'm only predicting on what i think might happen on the edges but do you think there will be something else going on? >> eric: republicans and conservatives have pointed out that under president obama, he
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doubled the national debt from $10 trillion to $20 trillion print all of the presidents combined up until obama had $10 trillion and obama had another $10 trillion. if you look at the rate at which the debt is increasing, you have to slow that down. otherwise in another eight years under trump when you could have 40 billion. not an additional ten but doubling. he doubled the debt. if you do it again, you are talking $40 trillion. at some point it becomes unsustainable. they need to be finding ways to cut the deficit we have. >> bob: how much interest? >> eric: 2.5%. pushing $450 billion in interes interest. 26 largest economy in the world. >> kimberly: exception to this, cutback, immigration judges and border patrol. keep those, add some more because that's also fulfilling a
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campaign promise. >> greg: there is no way you can be reversed santa claus. >> dana: the federal government, the actual workforce, has been flat for the last 20 years. to bob's point, it's hard to make additional cuts. one thing that will definitely end up with fewer people is the number of federal employees that will retire in the coming years is high but that means they will get their pensions. then you have to figure out, make sure you're funding it. a good solution for some of these jobs could be your favorite topic. robots. automation. when i came through immigration, go through with the passport thing. like an ipad, done. it was so much more efficient. >> greg: imagine if your congressmen were robots, if your senators were robots. >> kimberly: imagine if your husband was a robot. i saw this on tv this weekend. >> dana: what were you watching? >> greg: i think that was a
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♪ >> bob: nine days ago, our president recklessly claimed his predecessor wiretapped trump tower. he only has a few hours left to prove it. if mr. trump has any evidence, it must be turned over to the house intelligence committee today. vladimir putin is hoping to diffuse all this by sending out his spokesman saying team clinton was tied to moscow too. >> clinton campaign officials. i don't know of any. >> well, if you look at some people connected with hillary clinton during her campaign, you would probably see that he had lots of meetings of that kind. >> bob: every russian sounds the same. >> kimberly: helpful, isn't he? >> bob: the other thing is i said a week ago that that one phone call could get the answer.
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john mccain said the same thing over the weekend. you want to resolve it? pick up the phone and ask if there was a warrant. he hasn't done man spread by tomorrow, it's going to prove it was an untruth. >> kimberly: "one more thing" is next. >> greg: i thought kellyanne conway had a great idea. a microwave that turns into a camera. saves the instagram for one lasagna. >> dana: can i tell you a funny story? >> kimberly: going well. >> dana: the other day, a young lineal was serving another young lineal, boy to girl, as he was going through the food he said would you like some extra parsley for instagram? he was flirting with her. it was very cute. millennials in love. >> bob: lost control of the segment. say something about wiretapping.
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>> greg: who taps wires anymore? is there a new way to do it now? >> bob: samsung tvs. they got busted on the idea you could have in your house. >> kimberly: mind turns on. it's very strange. you have to cover it because otherwise they can see you. it will turn. >> greg: have you ever seen the movie "the ring"? women come out of the tv. >> dana: the stage manager has has. >> eric: i don't think they are going to turn over any information. i think the investigation is ongoing to find out who called for the wiretaps. they were too requested, one in june, one and october. whatever data they got, hopefully they prove who they were tapping and who else got implicated. >> kimberly: kellyanne said
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♪ >> dana: i'm going to go first. i have a new thing called dana's question to the group. i have a question for you. if you are on an overseas flight and you are with your partner, your spouse, and you are awake. that spouse is sleeping and
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snoring very loudly for a long period of time, would you as a spouse wake them up so that they stop bothering everybody else in the cabin? >> greg: you draw on them. get a sharpie. >> dana: this happened to me. >> kimberly: kimberly, would yoe spouse? >> kimberly: i would kiss him until he woke up. >> dana: that didn't happen today either. bob? >> bob: >> eric: everyone has got a video camera. >> dana: i think they were from france and they wouldn't have cared. that's a good first exercise. >> greg: facebook friday, i will let it go. too late, dana. >> kimberly: mind is amazing.
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after 21 years of service to the u.s. armed forces, the predator drone is said to be retired from service. it is going to cease flying completely by july 1st. good news out there because the american military will then begin to rely heavily on the more advanced, more lethal mq9. the more modern one is better equipped, has overall superior operational capabilities, more accuracy. very excited. this is amazing. your friend obama, predator drones. we've got a new and improved one for president trump to unleash on isis. >> greg: time for greg's disgusting news. this is terrible. if you have children in the room, leave. this is at the cincinnati zoo. you have three rare tiger cubs
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rejected by their mother and so blake, the australian shepard. blakely, i'm sorry. provided snuggly and comforts. blakely does this for all animals that are rejected, including warthogs, skunks, foxes. sometimes bob beckel. in six months, that tiger will eat that dog. >> dana: pretty cute. when you say have children leave the room. a >> greg: i just like watching children leave the roo. >> eric: earlier i alluded to this. give me a couple seconds. this is really important. the gdp versus the debt. gd per, the last ten years, gdp increased to $18.9 trillion.
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this is what we have or make and this is what we owe. over the same period of time, gdp up 34%. over the same period of time, the debt increased 130%. this is ten years, not just the obama years but the interest on the debt, 450 $450 billion. interest on the debt. here's a fun fact. apple has $246 billion in cash on hand in their bank account. microsoft has $123 billion. google has $86 billion. do you know what we have as of today in the united states government? $34 billion. we have an eighth of what apple has. >> dana: which number do you want to increase or decrease? >> eric: you want growth to go up. they wanted to keep this number. $19.998 trillion per they wanted to keep it under 20 before they go to the debt ceiling increase.
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>> bob: the budget in the carter administration was 110 billion paired whole budget. >> dana: all all right, bob. >> bob: i've heard from a lot of you about my anger at donald trump. it ain't going away. i did the five stages of grief. i went through denial. i still don't believe it. >> kimberly: i think you sweated on it. >> bob: anger. still angry. bargaining, no bargain. depression. it completely. acceptance. for those of you out there who joined me and not liking this guy, you've got to accept it. i've come to accept it. otherwise i would probably be dead in another 30 days from a heart attack. cool down. stay in his way, trip him up. when people say to me don't you want the president to be successful? my answer is no. i don't. >> eric: yes, you do. >> bob: no, i don't.
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people said this about obama and it didn't bother me. the way you go about governing. if he gets away with doing something he's doing. >> dana: set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." that's it. "special report" is next. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. i am bret baier. welcome to washington. republican plan to repeal and replace obamacare is being put to its first test and now lawmakers are going to have to sell results that the congressional budget office has put out. being characterized as pretty rough. the reports on the house health care plan at some of the numbers are giving fuel to critics, but the white house says the house bill actually ensure more people than currently covered. were going to go over the numbers and just a few minutes, house speaker paul ryan will join us live with his reaction to the congressional budget office reports. we begin with chief congressional correspondent

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