point out that there is snow on the ground. again, thank you for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly, please remember the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." despite a total lack of evidence, people continue to suggest the presidential campaign was co-opted by the government of vladimir putin. in lieu of actual proof, those pushing those theories have arrived at innuendos. evidence of a grand conspiracy. a hit on some sort when a spokesman claimed that hillary clinton's presidential campaign also met with the russian government multiple times. >> well, if you look at some people connected with

hillary clinton, during her campaign, you will probably see that he had lots of meetings of that kind. but there were no meetings about elections -- electoral processes. there was no way it should be perceived as interference of an electoral process. there are lots of specialists, people working in think tanks, advising hillary or devising people, working for people. >> tucker: former clinton campaign spokesperson denied this, sort of. saying probably is my guess. it looks like the media narrative could be in big trouble. what's going on here, exactly? bob beckel -- night after night we talk about russia. if you were to ask me, put a dossier together, russia would

not be on the list. what is this about, really? >> we have to keep in mind here, you are going to get people who are going to come representing campaigns. they can only say well i am with so and so. it is not unusual, first of all. unless you are doing business on behalf of the united states government, in trump's case -- i think there is some issue of intercepts. that may actually prove to be evidence. in clinton's case, who cares now? secondly, there is enough of the russian connection with trump that you can draw a pretty easy on evidence narrative about it. that's the way i see it. the intelligence community it's saying that they have information that has trump campaign people talking to the russians. i get -- i'd don't find that a

problem, myself. and the whole scheme of things it sounds like a problem. >> tucker: people all across washington on the other cable channels, going wall-to-wall with the russia connection. here is what we know, at the very beginning from the u.s. intel community. the russians tried to break into various email accounts, republican and especially the democratic side starting in march of 2015. that was before trump announced -- before anyone took him seriously. did the russian somehow know that he was going to run and get the republican nomination and then be elected president? >> the whole thing is just -- it's amateur hour all the way around. people do not understand the game of presidential politics. every presidential candidate has 1,000 representatives. on the payroll or not. it would be frankly a little bit of a problem if you did not try

to make some contact with major foreign powers around the world when you are running for president of the united states. everyone goes to israel. i'm not easy on trump. i am pretty tough on him but the one thing i know is not true is that barack obama taking his phones. but on the russian thing -- there are 70 pieces of this russian thing. before that, the business organization was involved with russian businesses and oligarchs. so what? that's their business. >> tucker: sure, and lots of people people were involved with business or satellite states in russia. including the clinton campaign's manager's brother. at the point of this is to delegitimize the electoral result and the trump campaign.

russia is a real country, there are geopolitical consequences. an act of war, what is an act of war require? inappropriate response. more. it seems like we are moving towards conflict with russia? >> whenever you get people in politics who do not understand foreign policy and geopolitics forget to talk about it in a political context? they are out of their league and it leaves behind a trail -- if you do not pick it up and run with it -- the problem here is there's only one issue. i assume the intelligence communities are looking into this. was there anything with russia having to do with suppression of votes or getting into campaign computers. we do know this, the russians had conversations and dealt with wikileaks but outside of that, i

can as a democrat and liberal, i can't stand up there and say trumps administration was involved with russia. because i do not know. >> tucker: you wrote about people's lives blowing up and rebuilding. you have to come to terms with what went wrong before you can rebuild. i wonder if all of this is in addition to being a political exercise kind of a psychological symptom of a party not a willing to face what actually happened? >> in your mind, which is always -- you could probably reach out to that. i don't think anybody in my party has that kind of depth who could figure something like that out. hillary clinton clearly is somebody that has a lot of thinking to do about what happened. if you look back on that campaign, clearly -- for the first time, the democrats forgot

about rural america. what is behind all of this? it seems to be a little bit of a reach to see that you are going to rebuild yourself by stepping on trump and the russians. there is probably a faster lane to get there. >> tucker: it seems that way. is there a single voter who voted for trump or set up this election who is thinking, vladimir putin hacked the election? i am voting democrat next time? why didn't people who voted democrat for generations vote democrat in this election? >> there's always something about presidential campaigns. you want to justify what you have done if you lose. it wasn't just us, it was not our strategy or candidate, there are forces out there that we cannot deal with. in some cases, that is true. the economy and other things but when you start putting together an international intrigue, worthy of a bad book, you are

reaching just too far. i don't think every voter would make that connection anyway. i mean, did anyone get a call from the russians? >> tucker: it is so bewildering, do donors play a role in this? people spend hundreds of millions of dollars in the spirit is there an easy way to explain this to them? >> i know i did that myself, when i dealt with our donors. these guys are getting smarter and smarter now. they understand what goes wrong with a campaign. it was a real problem for clinton, a well-run on target campaign up until election nigh night. and then all of a sudden, you look at the holes in it. in trump's case it was a badly run badly messaged campaign but it happened to be the right message at the right time. all these exercises, every date you get away from the election

-- it becomes less and less important in the scheme of things. hillary clinton, the real question is democrats -- who do you have on your bench to run the next time? right now, i do not know who that is. the republicans by the way, if trump gets through four years, he is going to have primaries. it used to be, you and i both know, you were in line to get the next person in line. no more. >> tucker: no more. the market is open, always. happy where i am. good to see you, bob. we have a fox news alert. right now a dangerous snowstorm moving across united states. a powerful late season's norm s. mid-atlantic and the northeast are getting ready for a full-blown storms.

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>> tucker: what makes a nation? it's at anyone who lives within the borders of a country or is there something more to it? we are debating that question right now in the netherlands, holding an election on wednesday. at the for freedom, geert wilders -- steve king of iowa recently started a debate here in this country tweeted in support of wilder's. he wrote this, culture and demographics are our destiny. we can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies. the comment was denounced as bigoted, including the speaker of the house. congressman king explains now. >> thank you for having me on, tucker.

>> tucker: you have seen the reviews of your tweet. the left was merciless. some were unbelievable. john lewis called you bigoted and racist. an embarrassment to the human race. he would like to believe that you misspoke. what did you mean when you wrote that? >> no, tucker, i did not misspeak at all. i said exactly what i meant. this is a message over and over to europe, the netherlands -- who does understand this. all of western civilization have gone down below the replacement rate, with the exception of israel, the only western civilization -- in first world country that has a birth rate above the death rate. we have to do something to increase our birth rate or the vacuum that is created will be filled by people who do not believe in our values here in western civilization.

you're seeing it happen in the netherlands and across europe. that is what this race is about. >> tucker: to support people from other countries, that increases the population despite the fact that the birth rate is pretty low. that is not an adequate solution, why? >> i say not because a country, a nation state needs to have a sense of common history, common culture, a common civilization. common experiences that bind us together. we went through a real assimilation. from about 1924 until the mid-'60s because our leadership in congress understood we needed to have a time to bond back together and become americans together again because of the high immigration that we had in the previous 20-30-40 years. we are at this place now where we people marching in the

streets, pushing back against american culture and civilization. it is troubling to me that over the last 25 years, we have essentially phased out the promotion of assimilation and promoted instead of multiculturalism and diversity as if it were our strength. they're using it now to divide us and that is what barack obama did throughout his presidency. >> tucker: everything he said is defensible and probably right, the problem with the tweet was it suggested there is a racial component to american identity. do you think there is? >> there is a racial component and all of our discussions here in america. it must be that because the left is constantly pointing to the differences we have. race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, prosperity versus poverty. we are all god's children. we are all created in his image. in america, it has been the most successful nation in merging these distinctions together on the common foundation of rights that come from god.

what i should have done, if i had more characters in that tweet, just re-added you cannot rebuild our civilization with somebody else's babies unless we adopt them. >> tucker: the idea is it does not matter what ethnic group people come from as long as they share the same culture and language and shared history? i do not want to lead you to that or is that what you're saying? >> that is what i am saying. if we are bound together -- by the way, language is the most powerful unifying force known throughout all of history. having a common language. if we share those things, then we can communicate with each other and to do it instinctively. on top of that, language is essentially a carrier of libert liberty. we are so fortunate to have english as a common language. >> tucker: i mentioned a minute ago that the speaker of the house paul ryan was asked earlier about your tweet. i wanted to play it for our viewers.

>> i do not think that statement reflects what is special about this country. i would like to think -- i have not spoken to steve about this. i would like to think he was misspoke and it didn't mean the way it sounded. >> tucker: was it a misunderstanding between you or is there a deep philosophical gulf between you? >> there is no personal friction between us. yeah. i think how we address our borders, he shares different views, he certainly argues that increases our economy -- he is more of an open borders advocate, i am on the opposite. we should restored the respect for the rule of law or become a third world country. there's a philosophical difference but i think he misunderstands what i said. it was characterized by the left as having a race component to

it. but you can look down through the words and language, there is nothing in my statement that references race in any way. but i do reference culture and civilization. that is what we have to restore. western civilization for the world, tucker. >> tucker: it sounds fair to me. up next, president trump held his first full cabinet meeting. what happened? we will tell you. the largest abortion provider is upset about a prospective loss of half a billion dollars in annual taxpayer subsidies. we will talk to a representative from planned parenthood after the break. of doctors and pharmas for their own frequent heartburn. for all day and all night protection... banish the burn... with nexium 24hr.

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prepared to handle the severe winter storm warning that is now threatening the entire northeas northeast. >> tucker: trace gallagher, thank you. the american health care act does not just repeal parts of obamacare, it would also fulfilled the gop's campaign promise to defund planned parenthood. for at least one year, anyway. planned parenthood provides more than 300,000 abortions a year it also gets 40% of its budget from the federal government. the impending derailment has abortion supporters upset. we're joined now. thank you for coming on. >> good evening, tucker. >> tucker: i talked to a lot of planned parenthood people and they say it is not just about abortion, we have these health care related services for women. defunding us would be a terrible thing. the republicans say that's fine, just don't include abortion in your services. planned parenthood comes back and says no, abortion is too important to exclude.

i wonder what the reasoning is there. why's it so-so important to planned parenthood that you will forgo half a billion? >> planned parenthood believes in the wisdom and power of the individual to decide what care is right for them. no one is going to bully, threaten, or bribe planned parenthood to not have that vie view. 1.5 million people are at risk of losing access to cancer screenings, std testing and treatment and birth control because of this plan by paul ryan and donald trump to take that care away. of course people do not -- they come to planned parenthood and we get reimbursed for providing preventative health care. we do not get a budget item, a line item and we do not get a big check. we get reimbursed like any hospital for providing a pap test or breast cancer screening. >> tucker: that does not change the question which is, why include abortion if the

services provided are necessary? why don't you take that out? a lot of people think it is murder. then taxpayers can feel good about subsidizing the rest of your services. >> taxpayers do not pay for abortion services. they help reimbursed things like pap test and cancer screenings. women deserve access to the full range of reproductive health care and that includes safe, legal abortion. planned parenthood is going to let women make the choices they want to make about their care and go to the doctor they want to go to. >> tucker: i've always wondered this, the most common cancer among women is breast cancer. the majority of breath cancers are discovered in mammograms -- while controversial i think they are still widely agreed upon the screening. i do not think planned parenthood offers any mammograms? >> most cancers are not initially discovered in mammograms, they are discovered in breast cancer screenings done by gynecologists all over the

country. including those at planned parenthood. like any gynecologist, what we do is we refer people to a mammogram at a radiologist office which is what every woman american would tell you. they get a breath exam, something is found, and then they get referred to go get a mammogram. if something is found there, they go to get a biopsy. that is how it works. >> tucker: planned parenthood does provide an awful lot of abortions every year. over 300,000. i think that is right. in that range. the majority of them are after 5.5 weeks, where a fetal heart beat can be detected. i'm wondering, what do you think of that? what is being aborted? if you can hear the heartbeat, what is being aborted? >> abortion is a right in this country, women have their own views on whether or not they

want to be pregnant. that is not a viable fetus at 5.5 weeks, anyone knows that. what you would do is make your own choice. that is all planned parenthood has every ever said. >> tucker: what specifically do you think? you work for the biggest abortion provider, if you can hear the heartbeat of this fetus, what is it? is it a piece of tissue or is it to a separate being? >> that is up to each individual to decide what they believe. women in this country, one in three women have an abortion during their lifetime. obviously they are making their own choice. >> tucker: what do you think? >> i'm here to talk about today is that the pentz/ryan plan will take away cancer screenings and birth control for millions of women in this country. >> tucker: you said that. i think health screeningst.

planned parenthood probably do some good work but the reason it is a controversial place is because it is the biggest abortion provider and you are one of the people that run it. what do you think? if you can hear the fetal heartbeat and it is extinguished, is that a big deal or not to you? >> i take seriously all of the health care work that we provide, i believe in safe, legal abortion. i believe it it's up to each woman and individual. i'm not going to make a judgment. >> tucker: why can you not give me a straight answer? it's not like you have not thought of this. >> i would say that it is a fetus. it is up to each woman to decide -- you and i can differ on this all day, tucker. >> tucker: you are not telling me what you think. is it a separate being or is it a piece of flesh? >> 70% of americans believe that

roe vs. wade should be the law of the land. that women should each individually have their choices about what they want to do in their pregnancy. they definitely believe that women are at risk for losing care under the plan the donald trump -- >> tucker: i get your talking points. i've heard your talking points 1,000 times. i want to take it a level deeper because i think it is worth it. people say look, this is killing a life. a heart is beating. you can hear it. at the majority of your abortions take place after 5.5 weeks. does that bother you at all? differ stop and think, wow, what is happening here? >> i personally favor safe and legal abortion in this country. decided by each individual woman and her doctor to decide for themselves. i personally do not believe that that is a viable fetus at that

point. there are rules we follow -- >> tucker: i'm asking you a human question. i'm not saying it is viable but you can hear the heartbeat. is that a human being or not? is it separate from the mother or not? it does not seem like a tumor or something that is connected to the woman holy. what does that mean? i would think you have thought about it. >> i've thought about it very much for myself but i'm not going to project onto other women what i believe. what i believe is that women have the right and the choice and we will leave it up to them. at planned parenthood -- we do help them make a choice. i did not help them personally make the choice. they get to make it. whether it is what their minister or their doctor or

partner or husband. >> tucker: i know you are smart but you are giving me a very childish answers. i would think that you would have grappled with this. wow it, this is a profound thing, do you ever pause and say what are they doing? there is another agenda here. a real agenda. >> i look at those protesters and i wonder how they can be so heartless to be yelling the things that they do at women in their lives when they know nothing about what is going on in that woman's life. they have no idea what service she might be there for. but that is not stopping them. the shame and stigma that is being forced on women. >> tucker: why would they want to do that? that was a uniquely shallow conversation. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, anytime. >> tucker: the battle for

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>> tucker: the culture wars in america are over and the bad guys won. a provocative argument, the author of a new book wrote, the benedict option, a strategy for christians in a post-christian nation. the money may say in god we trust but cultural christianity is practically extinguished and in many way, americans are now hostile to christian religious beliefs. it's rod, thank you for coming on. a post-christian america, people look at the demographics and to say wait a second, it's like 75%

professed christians. >> most americans identify as christians but christianity as it has been historically understood is no longer at the center of our nation and how we think of ourselves. if you look at the numbers in the united states, of the people who are following away from christianity especially in the millennial generation, it is catastrophic. we have never seen anything like it. the content of the belief that christians have is very far from historic orthodox christianity. the notre dame sociologist has talked about we believe now this total feel good, squishy, christianity that is not biblical christianity. this is what i mean. we are in a post-christian situation in that sense. we have forgotten what it means to be christian. >> tucker: i should point out to our viewers, you are

christian and you are not applauding this trend. but you have a prescription for sincere christians in america on how to respond to this. >> i am a conservative christian myself. i think this is a terrible thing that is happening in our countr country. i think we have to wake up as christians and realize the situation where in. we have to get back to traditional christianity. we have to go back and rediscover our roots in terms of what we believe but also in terms of the faith we practice. we've got to place our church and faith above everything else right now. and really dig deep. benedict the 16th said we are living in a time that it's the fall of the roman empire in terms of our spiritual crisis. i think he is right and i think we have to respond radically to the situation. >> tucker: evangelical christians basically have been saying for 30 years that the country is deeply sympathetic to

us. there's a majority out there somewhere, once they hear our message they will join with us. we say that is not true, we need to figure out how to engage differently in politics? >> that is right. when i was coming up in the '70s and '80s, the belief among christian conservatives without the country was basically with us but we were ruled by a liberal elite who kept us down. that is how we perceived it. if we just won the political offices and judiciaries, we would renew the country. that is no longer our operative. that's not true and we have to operate on the basis of reality, not just what we wish was happening. we have got to stay involved politically, if only to protect religious liberty but i think we have to return to localism and building our local churches and schools and local institutions as a sort of arc to get us across this dark age. it >> tucker: that sounds a little bit like withdrawal from

mainstream society. is it? >> yes and no. we have to withdraw some want to rebuild who we are in our own sense of identity, in the bible. but we have to withdraw so we can continue to go out into the world and present the face of christ as he really is. if we do not withdraw and study and pray and build our practices, we cannot bring the world the gospel. we have to withdraw from the world so we can be for the world that christ wants. >> tucker: you can tell when someone is sincere and rooted in his faith. you know who the phonies are. the book, it is blowing up. the christian portions of the internet anyway. up next, what is really happening on capitol hill? not a lot it looks like. our congressman ready to work

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>> tucker: it has been two and a half months since congress convened but republicans have not accomplished much. especially now the congressional budget office says it will take away health care from 24 million people. that is the headline tomorrow. is it right? steve scalise of louisiana joins us now, the republican majority whip. thank you for coming on. 24 million people will be dropped from a health coverage in the next ten years.

what does this mean? >> the problem is, they got it wrong if you look at that headline. what cbo said, if given the option -- our bill gives people freedom. if you do not have to get on obamacare. you can get off of obamacare. what cbo is estimating even with taxpayer subsidies, they think 14 million people just next year will get off of obamacare if given the choice. you can still stay on it but if they want to get off, they have the freedom to do it. 14 million well. that is not lost coverage but cbo called that loss coverage. to me that means you had the freedom to say that i don't want to be on obamacare anymore. now you have better options because there is going to be a competitive marketplace where you can go buy back whatever you want for your family at a lower cost and cbo most importantly at the fact that when our plan is implemented, it will lower cost dramatically. >> tucker: so when the cbo

says there will be a massive decreased number of people covered, they mean by obamacare, not by any insurance policy at all? >> what we are doing is getting rid of obamacare and letting families make the choice of what they want to do for their health care. they get to pick their own plan which is the opposite of obamacare. obamacare said no matter what you think, if you like what you have, you can keep it only if this is the plan you can have. >> tucker: here is what i do not get. there is no mandate in this bill. if you do not have to buy health and insurance. but you keep in the requirements that health insurances need to cover people with pre-existing conditions. it also means health care insurers cannot turn me down if i show up to buy a policy. why would i bother to buy insurance? >> what you would need to have

continuous coverage but the other thing is, there will be real options for you. one of the things it has done, it has led to monopolies in about a third of the marketplaces across the country. even if you are out buying insurance and obamacare, use literally only have one choice. that is why costs are up. all the mandates are so unworkable in that companies to stop writing policies. a lot of these insurance companies, under your plan we will actually be able to come in and write policies for people that they want to buy. if you like what you have, can truly go and buy it for your family. >> tucker: what happens if you do not want to buy? it is expensive. it's your choice but the insurance companies are required to take me, they have to take me. congress is forcing them to. i will they be sustainable? >> it is not as simple as gaming the system. people can literally get on the system for months and if they

get sick they can jump right back in. that is not how it will work. you will have to be in the system if you want to have a plan. ultimately you get to choose the plan. that's the most important thing. their tax credits for people that are low income working people and have the ability -- you get a tax break if you get your insurance from your employer. about 61% of the people get their health care from their employer. what happens if your employer does not provide health care? what if you are a small business owner? we are giving the same tax break that employers get to families that cannot get it through their employer. they can go buy would they want for their family. we obamacare and health care was hsa. that lowered cost and gave people more options. under obamacare they literally obliterated the hsa market. families can actually work through hsa's and get the ability to buy lower cost health care, what they want for their family, it's their choice.

not a government bureaucrat. >> tucker: we get a ton of emails and 1 out of 3 is along these lines. i voted for trump, i voted for republican and they have not done anything in washington. why are democrats so much better at obstructing the republicans? >> this is not getting a lot of attention -- one of the most high-profile was getting rid of the extreme buffer rule. in one stroke of a pen, we saved over 70,000 jobs in the coal industry. president trump had coal miners at the bill signing. he did not give a bill to a member of congress who helped write the bill. he gave the bill to a coal miner. bill johnson from ohio. this was a bill congress passed. >> tucker: so you are satisfied with the pace? >> we had a 27.5 hour committee

meeting. the longest committee meeting in congress where we passed the bill to cut obamacare. longest committee meeting. democrats modest every bought p of the way. every democrat voted against it because they know it replaces it. when you really get down to the bottom of it, the legislative process take some time but we are getting a bill that is ready to go to the house floor in about a week and then it will get to the president's desk and president trump wants to sign it because he will follow through on his promise. >> tucker: congressman, thank you for coming on. coming up, gangster rap snoop dogg is trying to overthrow the nation. managing my diabetes

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>> tucker: snoop dogg the permanently high gangster rapper is back in his new video where he promotes the murder or at least overthrow of president trump. the song, lavender, snoop dog is sent to a world of clowns. a prop gun at a cloud version of president trump and pulling the trigger. the person playing the president does not die, he just gets chained up. while knoop dog smokes weed as he so often does. but nobody can say that snoop dogg sits on the sidelines of this political battle. that's it for us tonight. go to "tucker carlson tonight"

on our facebook page. tweet @tuckercarlson. see you tomorrow. >> sean: the left is working overtime to destroy president trump while enduring a bombshell about the campaign. and then. >> i'm not saying it didn't happen. >> sean: the obama administration spied on president trump? sara carter is here to weigh in. >> whether we do it or not, president trump moves i had to repeal and replace obamacare. >> sean: republican saboteurs continue to undermine the president's agenda. monica crowley, geraldo rivera have reaction. "hannity" starts right here, right now. reportin