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thanks for joining us. do remember, varney and company on the fox business network tomorrow, 9:00 a.m. eastern all the way until noon. that's it from me for now. "the five" is next. >> greg: i am greg gutfeld with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, and dana perino, "the five" ." at a dinner with the press, the ambassador from afghanistan was asked about donald trump. he said he was warned to keep it short when talking to mr. trump because of his short attention span. when they did finally speak, he was delightfully shocked. donald trump asked three questions that president obama never did. one, how can you win and his fight against terror? two, what do you need to be financially independent and
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three, how can american business invest in your country? the investors conclusion, donald trump wanted to win where as before, president obama just didn't want to lose. the hesitancy over commitment was gone but trump listened to his answers. funny how this flies in the face of the media's portrayal of trump, always ballistic. president obama, he so much more giving, he looks fantastic even when he's losing his shirt. meanwhile, trump is going full salesman as he fixes obamacare, meeting with congressional leaders, working the phone, holding listening sessions, it's in his blood, sales. trump has something to sell but it's way more complex than a lie about keeping your doctor. trump is feisty but flexible. obama, cool but rigid. he had no reason to bend. the media already bought into his schtick. obamacare was a lemon but the
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media were his lemonheads. in a surprising turn amount, it is trump was listening and critics who refused to hear. the press won't notice but somehow the economy has. guess which one you should care about? eric, this article in the independent journalism review. betty johnson. he was at this dinner and hang it offers a unique insight to the people we are claiming to help, the afghans. >> eric: a love the fact that you pointed out the three questions president trump asked. they were all business related. this is the thing, the whole primary, election season, give the businessman is a chance because may be doing things differently might work. he asked, what do you need to win? what you need to be financially independent, and how can businesses invest in your country? three important questions maybe they had never heard. doing foreign policy a little
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bit differently and clearly it resonated. >> greg: , do you think the investor said those things because of the new guy or did he mean it? >> dana: seems they wouldn't have any incentive to say it if it wasn't true and if they didn't believe it. i also think that while the business aspect is interesting, i believe president trump is asking those questions because it's in america's national interest for afghanistan to be successful. a good and growing economy means they are less likely to become a safe haven for terrorism again. the question becomes what does success look like? you can't have success militarily if you don't have the soft power that comes from diplomacy and a growing economy. it will be interesting to see if president trump will accept the recommendation from the pentagon for more troops because i do think that request is probably coming. i think there's good reason for them to consider it.
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>> greg: kimberly, you look fantastic and white. >> kimberly: thank you so much. >> dana: what am i, chopped liver? >> greg: everybody looks good. i find it interesting that the most abrasive president of the one who relies on personal tax, coming from real estate deals. he has to get in front of the person and work it out. obama was like, already know the answers. don't need to talk to you. >> kimberly: he has the professorial elitism that he thinks he knows better than everyone else. that was one of the criticisms of his presidency. he was lecturing to the american people. i know better, you do not. you are impulsive and petulant and i'm going to show you the way. part of it was it the way he handled afghanistan and other geopolitical areas we came into. with afghanistan, his plan to withdraw. when he saw that wasn't going to be a good idea and there were ongoing problems, what did he
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do? he punted it to the next presidency and said i'm going to let them handle it. he made the most restrictive rules of engagement that cost american lives. 3 out of 4 of the lives lost in afghanistan were under barack obama's presidency. that's a fact. it is, bob. well, the point is, now president trump is going to have to go in there and fix it. one of the first things he did was turn the rules of engagement back to what they were before. ask anybody who's involved in the theater there militarily, special ops forces, that was the thing that hurts them the most. not having the resources but being so restricted they weren't able to take the fight to the tele- band to begin with which led to this abysmal failure we are seeing in afghanistan. >> greg: here's an easy question. has president obama ever admitted he was wrong about anything? trump seems more willing to
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change his mind. >> bob: that's for sure. [laughter] we agree on that. let me say in the nicest way possible, usually when people don't know anything, they ask a lot of questions. >> kimberly: oh, my god. >> bob: i have to listen to you. >> eric: they never asked the question, otherwise they would know things. >> bob: do you think he knows anything about afghanistan? >> eric: i don't know if he does but i think it's amazing and perfect that he asked. >> greg: it's important to know what you don't know. >> bob: i understand that. it's a parked asked the questions and i understand that but somehow that we give him credit for this being diplomacy on his part. if you ask him about the health care bill, he would know nothing about it. afghanistan has a very complicated history. it's driven out the biggest powers in the world and it's not going to get fixed. it's not going to get fixed by
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us. the soviets went home, and we are going to go home. >> eric: are you done? >> greg: bob, you didn't answer my question. has obama ever admitted he was wrong about anything, including isis? >> bob: most of the time he wasn't wrong. >> eric: what dana pointed out out, will president trump listen to the generals and send ground troops and if needed? >> dana: i said more troops. >> eric: we found out today they did -- the generals recommended sending troops to syria and he went with it. this is something he said he wasn't in favor of but he's listening to the generals. bob, it's important to listen. if you don't exactly have a full understanding of what's going on on the ground in syria and every foreign theater, it's good to hear and listen to the generals.
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>> bob: he doesn't know what he's doing. >> kimberly: we didn't say that. >> bob: do you think he knows something about syria? >> kimberly: if you know anything about donald trump a yu know him personally for many years, like i do, he's going to a equip himself to be able to succeed. he's not going to go into the presidency and say sorry, i didn't do a good job. he's going to try to get it right and if he is relying heavily on the advice of generals and people in his cabinet because he wants that strength and intelligence and previous success from people who know what they're doing so he can incorporate that into his foreign policy plan. following up by asking questions so that he can learn and make good decisions. that's what a president should do. >> bob: what do you think he was talking about, how do you do business in afghanistan? if he said that to me. >> eric: every foreign leader should be asking that question.
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how can we get business investment to come to our country? when you have that coming of growth and when you have growth you solve your economic problem problems. >> bob: what are you going to do in afghanistan? mining. >> eric: agriculture. >> kimberly: you want them to have a good economy to stabilize the region. that's a very important piece of the puzzle that a lot of people don't think about. when you see the what's happeng with isis and the rest of them, they don't have jobs. >> eric: you liberals said that half the reason for terrorism and isis was economic reasons. he said what's it going to take to bring business investment to afghanistan so these people have an option, an alternative to joining isis. they can start a business. >> greg: a trump hotel in afghanistan. >> bob: you are assuming that george bush and barack obama didn't encourage business to go to afghanistan?
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>> eric: did i say that? greg pointed out the guy said no one ever asked me that question before. >> dana: how long has he been in office? >> greg: the other thing he brought up was the thing we talked about that president obama would say what he was going to do before he would do it that would drive afghans crazy. >> dana: he said we're leaving and so that created a vacuum. president trump has shown some willingness in the media has picked up on it to change a viewpoint based on meetings he's had. leading up to the joint session of congress speech he had two weeks worth of meetings with ceos and on that day of the joint session speech, he said -- he floated the idea that maybe was going to change his approach on the immigration bill. that is true. presidents are allowed to change their minds. president obama, after the push
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back, he kept the bush tax cuts. if i could down one last thing about the ambassador, one of the ways you develop good relationships is by showing an interest in somebody else. maybe ask their opinion about something. doesn't happen all the time. frankly, for a lot of people. from his business perspective, that's a way you can establish a relationship. probably be able to pick up the phone and call each other and that's good. >> kimberly: that helps with your soft diplomacy, what you were talking about. good relationships. >> bob: maybe trump can do something that no one's been able to do for 300 years. i doubt it. >> greg: i get bob's point. nothing seems to work in afghanistan but it looks like he's listening. >> dana: the purpose of it is not just because he wants a good economy in afghanistan. it is in america's national interests. >> greg: on that note, coming up, top democrats in the house and senate are urging
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some democrats have resorted to scare tactics on the american people. >> if legislation is passed and millions of people are thrown off health insurance, not able to get care when they must, thousands of americans will die. speaker in terms of insurance coverage, it's immoral. in terms of giving money to the rich at the expense of working families, it's indecent and wrong. >> trumpcare would be a nightmare for the american people, causing tens of millions to lose coverage. millions more to see the costs of health care go way up. to >> eric: white house announced its working with lawmakers to shape an amendment. the g.o.p. has two options. jam this allows a bill through and watch it fail, then you own it, mr. speaker. or fix it now and of emma kratz
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voted down, they are going to eat the mess. k.g., the white house said they're going to work with some republicans to see if they can add amendments. it >> kimberly: i think that's a reasonable reaction to some of the, i guess, evaluation of it, people who are studying the bil bill. does this have the ingredients in it that we need to make it successful? that's what you do. that shows a healthy interest in doing your best and putting forward policy was going to help the american people. if they were being close minded and saying we are not open to anything, it would be a problem. take that, don't just say you're going to do it. incorporate it to make the best it can be. they were very vocal in terms of criticizing obama here to begin when the -- to begin with. gives people a reason to choose it and wanted. not just take the medicine with a grimace on their face.
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>> eric: is there a way for republicans to win with this bill? >> dana: sure. i think the president has said they are inextricable link. i appreciate you are trying to call it ryan care. there are attempts to branded as ryan care. the republicans had to put something on the table and i thought sean spicer today was very much in line of what you would want in terms of the beginning of the negotiation. talking to people, meaning both -- meeting with people. i think something like senator sanders is being so ridiculous. he said thousands of people will die. health insurance doesn't mean less care, whether you have it or not. people get care if they don't have health insurance. they can get it under medicaid. may not be the best, may not be what you want but it's not like
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people are going to die if this bill passes. >> eric: my biggest problem with the bill is they want us to wait for phase two and phase three. >> dana: that's what the president said. >> eric: here's the problem. if you don't get 60 votes in your putting the easy stuff up front to have most of the majority, you're never going to get 60 votes for phase two or phase three. we are never going to get the promises made down the road. let the democrats eat this. let's own this thing. >> greg: any time you try to reform government, the left shouts three words: people will die. while in cities actually run by liberals, people do die. in most cities where there is high crime, liberal policies. liberal policies kill more people than conservative principles ever will. i find it hypocritical they are shouting about hypothetical deaths when there is death in chicago every day. it >> bob: that's a good points. >> kimberly: i like that
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point. >> bob: i listen to you talk about death panels for three years. democrats. you've got to be kidding me. hypocrites. you say stuff about obama that was much more scary about this. the people on the hill did and they were stupid and they couldn't do it right. >> eric: what about the idea -- >> kimberly: there was a compliment in there somewhere. >> eric: put the phases together and say this is the bill. democrats vote for it or obamacare is for you to eat. >> bob: legislatively, it's not that well negotiated. medicaid expansion. >> eric: let the democrats eat it. >> dana: the president has already said that would be the responsible thing to do. he said i could do that. it would be politically expedient but i wouldn't do it. i don't think it's easy for him to backtrack on it. >> eric: also paul ryan and the whip, they said they were going to be will to deliver a
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bill that would be able to pass the house, and they didn't. >> dana: there hasn't been a vote yet. >> bob: i don't see how you can put together something, negotiate a deal, with the positions where they are. medicaid is a central part of it. >> eric: we are talking about health coverage. nothing in these bills. they need to tackle health costs and get the health costs to come down. >> bob: this is an insurance bill. >> kimberly: bob, just so you know. bernie sanders is really working his best magic to try to split the democratic party and make a new faction. >> dana: unfortunately for the democrats, he's been successful. >> kimberly: he has been in the election was proof positive. a lot of people supported him and were enjoying and embracing the policies of donald trump. >> bob: we have had that split since --
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♪ >> dana: a powerful nor'easter is pummeling much of the countr country. major cities have gotten clobbered. shepard smith joins us with the latest. sort of felt like ice pellets shot into your face. >> like on a boat that's going too fast in the rain. very uncomfortable. forecasters predicted the blizzard and that's what we got. it hit further inland than they expected. new york city, d.c., philly dodged the worst of it. other areas got nearly two feet of snow. here's a look in boston.
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a wintry mix there. forecasters say it will most likely turn to rain very soon. looks like it may already have. utility companies reporting the storm knocked out power to nearly a quarter million people. they are doing a good job getting a lot of his backup. bedford, massachusetts. at one point, more than 90% of all customers were without power. now down to four. they have done a whale of a job. other problems associated with the system. two systems converged over the northeast at the same time. new jersey, this is one of the coastal towns, stone harbor, new jersey. right on the southern tip of jersey. water taking over the streets and people wandering in boats today. starting to get some snow totals. looks like d.c. is going to finish up with just a couple inches. parts of the new jersey shore with about half a foot. new york city, about 8 inches. a little less in central park, little less down around jfk
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airport. a little bit more in boston, and to the west of boston, worcester, massachusetts, about a foot and half. 18 inches as we go far west in bethlehem, pennsylvania. want to show you the current radar loop. this is come right up the coast. snow totals we are expecting from now until it's all over. less than an inch here, less than an inch in boston but in burlington, another ten to 16 inches. that would put them around 30 inches. don't tell anyone in burlington this wasn't a big storm. forecasters say the storm could drop more than a foot in burlington, vermont. i want to show you here, for travelers, it's been a nightmare. this is in dallas and washingto washington. think starting to get back to normal at dulles international. the delays could ripple for
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days. there was some fun, case in point. pennsylvania, this woman snowboarding down a hill in her backyard. nice work. she was about 65 miles north and west of philly. dana, america's dog makes a cameo here we happened to spot jasper. she was in central park today. was she there unattended? >> dana: she is a he. i've got to get you a calendar and it will be very clear it's a he. just ask kimberly. the dogs were having a good time. kimberly and i have a secret thing. going to take it around the table. let's start with kimberly. >> kimberly: super cute. let's talk about the cherry bloom. apparently they are encased in ice and it's a big problem for
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the festival because i don't think they are going to survive. >> they think they may not, some of them. so many of the cherry blossoms in d.c. had bloomed early. they have the blooms and they were open and the ones that were open, they are iced over. those most likely will fall off. they are still telling us there will be plenty of cherry blossoms to see. >> kimberly: that affects the tourism. >> bob: it's a good thing, because i will stay home. the japanese got equal with us because they put them around there. everyone stops. traffic accidents. do you think if we had better microwaves up and down the coast we would have better weather control. >> we can see it through microwave cameras. >> dana: great question, bob. >> eric: how is the weather in palm beach, florida. >> it was 72 earlier. today they had a high of about 84. i had a live cameron palm beach earlier. i would've dialed it up for you,
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eric, if i had known you were interested. >> dana: i have a question to people who are critical. because the storm shifted and didn't hit d.c. and philly and new york as they thought, there's criticism of the national weather service. i don't think it's warranted but what do you think? >> i don't think so at all. you can't tell exactly where weather is going to go. we talk about hurricanes. they were originally predicting this be 50 miles off coast. if it had been 50 miles off coast, they warm water from the atlantic wouldn't have come into boston and new york and philadelphia. it would have been in the mid-20s instead of the low 30s. this freezing rain would've been snow. we would've had to inches in boston, new york, two feet in boston, two feet in new york just like they projected. instead it moves 40 miles of the west so they got it inland. they can't be perfect. they were close. >> bob: people upset when they
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say there's a big storm and it doesn't happen. they should be happy. >> dana: i'm not going to ask what you're doing up at 4:00 in the morning but greg needs to get in here. >> greg: the neuro- government offices were closed today. did anybody notice? -- new york government offices. >> greg, you are a one-trick pony. >> bob: he is one one trick. >> dana: you said new york couldn't handle two feet of snow. i've been here for a couple big storms but you have me a little nervous. >> they were predicting one to r six hours. blizzard like conditions. winds above 25, 30 miles an hour and gusts to 50. no matter how good they are getting rid of the snow and they are good at it, if an overrun view, it overruns you. mother nature can eventually beat you. didn't happen this time.
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so our engineers can solve problems with the most precise data at their fingertips. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. ♪ >> kimberly: president trump turning up the heat in the fight against radical islamic terror. "wall street journal" reports that president has given the cia new authority to conduct drone strikes against isis and other terrorists. the move is a departure from the obama-era policy. retired four-star general
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jack keane explains the potential change in strategy. >> i think the trump administration is largely going back, not because one agency does it better than the other, but because it's covert, classified, and it doesn't get discussed. when the military is conducting an operation, its more open, more public. i think this is fine. this is about keeping it secret i doing it covertly and doing it in places we may not want to talk about. >> kimberly: i agree spot on. >> dana: he went on to say it doesn't mean there wouldn't still be oversight from congress or involvement by the pentagon. doesn't mean that the cia is now some rogue operation doing drone strikes. it means if the cia has a target, they can take it. doesn't have to be disclosed publicly. i think this also shows there's probably a better relationship between the white house and the cia than we've been led to believe in the last few weeks.
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>> kimberly: fantastic. >> eric: in general, he said in the interview later on, here's the deal. one its military, by nature, there's going to be more light shed on it. the cia would be able to keep it quieter. president obama first started with the drone strikes, unilateral drone strikes. and then later on he got pushed back and we said hey, he's not going through proper channels. then they changed the strategy in the last year or so to the drones being used for intelligence gathering and then they would send in the military to clean up the mess. this is going back to the original obama drone strike, wipes out everything. >> kimberly: i think this is smart militarily, much in keeping with one of the criticism's candidate trump was making about president obama, he was telegraphing too much. telling the bad guys what we were going to do. this allows more covert
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operations and a more secretive nature which i think it's going to be more effective, plus the new drones. >> bob: didn't trump a saying about the generals -- why doesn't he controlled the drones himself? this is, you guys sat around this table and criticized barack obama every day about drone strikes. >> kimberly: i liked it. i didn't criticize president obama about that. >> dana: that they should capture more so you could gather intel. >> eric: we are agreeing with you. >> bob: it's all going to go this way. electronic. >> kimberly: don't eat up the block on my killing segment. >> greg: as the bad guys get worse, always seems that as we progress, evil gets even more
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evil. isis is worse than a nazi. i believe that's the case. as they become worse, our killing becomes more humane. we'll never repeat the world wars were re-sent waves of waves of men to their deaths. now the droning is purely surgical. puts the equivalent of a prostate surgery. we do our best not to hurt the innocent. collateral damage. i think it's important we are more concerned with how to kill them what to call the very refreshing return to common sense. it's interesting, this is the way it's going to be. it's going to be technology, fewer men on the ground, and we are going to be eliminating them. >> bob: by the way, isis is about to be blown out of mosul, which means they are out of iraq
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altogether. you have to credit trump on match. >> dana: okay. >> bob: has to be trump. >> eric: was president obama responsible for bin laden's killing? so we can credit president trump with this. >> bob: give credit about mosul. ask him where it is and will find out. >> kimberly: i'm not going to let you ruin my nice mood about this. cia in charge, new drones. snow angel white. senate democrats led by chuck schumer are threatening a government shutdown over funding of the border wall. details next on "the five" ." what's going on here? our insurance company may not have a name your price tool [ shouting ] but we got disses for days! your mother is so lame, she never put any notes in your lunch bag. sandwiches o-o-only. yeah!
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some government agencies to fund the wall. >> it would be inappropriate to insist on the inclusion of such funding and a must-pass appropriations bill that's needed for the republican majority and control of congress to avert a government shutdown. it's truly a poison pill. we would urge our colleagues not to allow the president to include this in a a must-pass l bill. that avoids shutdown of the government. >> bob: spending deadline is april 28th. if the bill doesn't pass, the government could shutdown on april 29. what do you think trump says after he campaigned? >> eric: it is $12 billion. over the course of -- you want to talk about -- remember yesterday when we talked about the health care savings? $337 billion per year. this is a third of a drop in the bucket. it's like 0.0045%.
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>> bob: he said they were going to pay for it. >> eric: they will find somewhere else. dana, can they find 12 billion? >> dana: especially if the rumors are true they are going to ask more people from epa. kidding. no, really. i think the idea of a government shutdown is terrible and i have always felt that way and i also think, remember chuck schumer another democrat said when republicans tried this few years ago that it would hurt people who were dependent on government services. do the democrats no longer believe shutting down the government would hurt people who depend on government services? if they can't figure out a way to stop the funding from being in the bill, then figure out a way to stop it from actually being appropriated in the budget. >> bob: both parties are hypocritical on this. they use it every time.
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once in a while it ends up in the government shutdown. >> greg: i believe schumer is an obstructionist parade we are talking about thousands of shovel-ready jobs. i would think you would want to create more jobs. building a wall should create more jobs. therefore he's a communist and should be thrown in jail forever. >> kimberly: yay! >> bob: doesn't bother you we are spending tax dollars on the wall? >> kimberly: why not have the job. why not put it forward? i think it's necessary because clearly what we've been doing in the past has not been working. this is going to help in terms of national security, public safety. it's going to help in terms of the economy. it's a win-win situation. people are looking to find fault with trump and i agree schumer is an obstructionist parade he's the head of the failed state known as the democratic party. he wants to try and do this for
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supreme court justice hearings. chuck schumer, responsible for the longest presidential transition in history. blocking president trump. he's a bad actor, ineffective leader. well, let me tell you something. i think they brought out merrick garland, nothing against him but they brought it up the last minute which was very different in terms of president obama's term. that's not going to work. the next president, they should have made sure hillary clinton got elected and took the white house because then they wouldn't be crying about it. >> bob: if this wall is so important, i drove through the lincoln tunnel on saturday. for an hour and half i sat there. there are a lot of things that seriously need to be fixed. >> kimberly: that is infrastructure jobs that he's going to do that too. >> eric: that is going to be the tough hurdle, not the $12 billion for the wall that mexico is going to end up paying for. the trillion dollars. going to have to come up with
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the way to get public-private partnership going where companies get involved. >> bob: you are still going to need cash flow. you're going to spend 13 billion. >> eric: do you think the wall is built in the year? it's probably going to take two, three years. they will figure out a way to appropriate some money and get mexico to pay them back. it will happen. will happen. >> bob: okay. >> kimberly: say it nicely. >> bob: if we rented from the chinese, we could get it done. "one more thing" is up next. where's frank? it's league night! 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico! goin' up the country. bowl without me. frank.' i'm going to get nachos. snack bar's closed. gah! ah, ah ah. ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪
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♪ >> greg: "one more thing." i will go first, i guess. i hate these people. do you know who i hate? people who tweet pictures of beaches on rainy or snowy days. do i send pictures of smooth roads to places where there are earthquakes? this makes no sense. everybody is on the west coast tweeting pictures of sunsets and beaches. do i tweet pictures of jobs to the unemployed? i would never do that. do i tweet a picture of love to rosie o'donnell? i wouldn't do that. >> eric: shepard, how's the weather in palm beach? >> greg: there you go. dana perino. >> dana: news to announce. you can now download this show as a podcast while you are on
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the go. "the five" podcast available on itunes, tune in, google play and more. it's free. worth every penny. go to fox news podcast.com. if you are on the go, you can listen to it on the commute or the next day. and i also have a book to promote. a new book called "the shroud conspiracy" out today. by john hi bush. much accomplished man, executive director of the ronald reagan presidential institute. greg is a tough critic and he liked it >> greg: i said i hate it when people give me books because they are usually bad writers. he's an amazing writer. incredible writer. >> dana: high praise. >> dana: i look forward to reading it on not hope everyone takes a look at it. >> bob: i was going to dump on paul ryan but the producer made me stop doing it.
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will get equal opportunity. i want to say something about the president. i gave in the other day, i said except it. i remember distinctly once, not twice, probably 150 times that president reagan, excuse me. president trump on the trail said this. >> this is an un-republican thing for me to say. universal health care, i'm going to take care of everybody. >> bob: here's the problem. i know you trump stores are to forgive this guy. >> kimberly: oh, bob. >> kimberly: >> bob: he says 24n people will be without health care insurance thanks to donald trump and the dude from wisconsin. whose long legacy stretches back. anyway, also the wall.
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we weren't going to pay a dime for the wall. now we just had a discussion 13 billion. once again, donald trump gets away with it. it it's microwave ovens. i've been on for 40 seconds. >> eric: i will take over. ryan care, i don't think donald trump should put his name on this. it is paul ryan's bill. >> greg: you are saying the president really isn't the president? >> eric: i'm saying he should stop and send this bill back for fixing. under this bill, and i'm not sure if we realize it. two categories. if you are 50 to 64 years old, now these two groups, over 65, two of trump's highest voter total groups. if you make $26,500 or less, under obamacare in 2026, you
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would be paying $1700 per year. under ryan care, you're going to end up paying $14,600. you're going to pay more than 50% of your income to have care under this plan. that's why the cbo numbers show 52 million people because it's too expensive for older people. >> greg: you have to explain the math. i have 106%. 53 and 53. >> eric: 53% of 50 to 64. the two highest categories. >> dana: i think paul ryan is on martha's show tonight. >> kimberly: check out the 7:00 p.m. eastern. dana, i'm going to follow in your footsteps and do some recommendations in terms of reading. "wall street journal," great publication. michael bender has a fantastic article. steve bannon, the making of an economic nationalist where you get a lot of insight into his political mind and background on where he came from.
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it's very fascinating. last thing is, there's a great video about self-defense. kelly huron took a self-defense class and fought off her attacker, saved her life. >> bret: president trump and his administration tried to shore up republicans while democrats try to stir the pot from the sidelines. this is "special report" ." welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. 24 hours after the report on the republican plan to replace obamacare, white house official said the cbo report just does not add up. much of the talk focused on health care, aides insisted president trump is confident there will be evidence he was wiretapped during the 2016 election.
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