>> we'd always fight. me and my brothers would flight and thought we were like bruce lee back in the day. >> and you survived? >> it toughens you up. it needs to be -- tag is not rough. >> good morning everybody. two pages of donald trump's taxes leaked in the end what did we learn? maybe not a whole lot as we say good morning on a wednesday. i'm bill hemmer. we survived the storm. >> at the white house it's beautiful. i'm shannon bream in for martha mac callum around last night the report revealed the president

paid $38 million on taxes on $150 million on income. >> the president tweeting does anyone really believe a reporter no one heard of went to his mailbox and found my tax at nbc news fake news. >> john roberts is live braving the subfreezing futures at the white house. how are they reacting? >> they're professing white house but this plays well for the president. you mentioned the partial returns and overall he paid $38 million on taxes on $153 million. he paid $5 million in regular income tax and $31 million in alternative tax and self-employment tax for $1,887,596 and that puts him at

a tax rate of 23.5% and the average is 24.8% and barack obama paid 17.8% and bernie sanders paid 13.5%. the reaction from the white house pretty sharp. a senior administration official said you know you're desperate for ratings when you're willing to violate the law for tax returns before being elected president. mr. trump was one of the most successful business men with a responsibility to his company, family and employees to pay no more tax than legally requires. the taxes were placed on a website and the writer said he received them in the mail monday and one suggestion said that the tax returns were given by mr. trump himself to prove he pays

taxes. the white house dismissed the motion saying it's illegal to steal and publish tax returns and the media continue to be make this a part of their agenda and the president will focus on his including tax reform to benefit all americans. the white house position the president made a lot of money and paid a lot of money in taxes. >> well, a lot of folks say that's what we learned and others are looking at writeoffs the president may have taken. legal? what do we know about that? >> he took a lot of write-offs about $105 million in business tax write-offs that could have been left over from the $918 million famously reported in the 1985 tax return and eligible for a charitable deduction of $39.1 million in the form of what's called a conservation easement for promising he would not develop the property where his golf course is. it doesn't appear there's

anything improper let alone illegal. the president by the way off to michigan where he'll talk about fuel, economy and emission standards with automakers and in nashville tonight for a big campaign type appearance which he'll talk about the new american health care act. >> we know how much he those. john, thanks so much. >> you may remember hillary clinton repeatedly hitting candidate trump during the debate and we remember this one. >> first, maybe he's not as rich as he says he is. second, maybe he's not as charitable as he claims to be or maybe he doesn't want the american people all of you watching tonight to know he's paid nothing in federal taxes. >> so then what do the two pages of 11-year-old tax returns tell us we'll talk to newt gingrich in 27 minutes. stay tuned for that.

meanwhile, president trump will make a push on health care reform during a rally in tennessee and speaker paul ryan urging the rest of the republican party to fall in line. >> we have to make sure to hit the sweet spot for consensus and get it done. we don't want an endless, dragged out thing. we have to make good on our promises. the bill is modelled after tom price's bill he had introduced as recently as december which had like a dozen freedom caucus members as a co-sponsor. i feel we're in a good place but we want to listen to members and make improvements to the bill so long as it doesn't make it harder to pass. >> one is senator rand paul from kentucky. welcome back. you speak as if the house bill's going nowhere. are you the one republican that can ensure it's dead on arrival? >> i think conservatives are unhappy with ryan's plan because

it looks a lot like obamacare and the best description is obamacare lite and it keeps mandates and subsidies and keeps large bailouts for the insurance company. it's important to emphasize the reason they're keeping the bailouts is the market's so broken it doesn't work without bailouts. the bill isn't going to fix the health care problem. obamacare created the problem and this bill doesn't fix it and acknowledges it doesn't fix it because they keep the subsidies for insurance companies. now, i have an idea that would fix the insurance market. what i would do is let every individual buy a group plan and all of a sudden the individual becomes king and the patient would be king again and instead of bowing to insurance companies they'd have to negotiate for our business and we'll have leverage for lower prices and would also have the ability to get better terms where they can't kick us

off insurance or kick us off if we get sick. >> maybe in the end you get the fix you're talking about. and maybe you don't but if obamacare is so broken are you willing to allow it to collapse under its own weight that would force your democratic colleagues to come in with their own fix? >> i think after six years we ought to fix it not a band-aid. i predict if ryan's plans passes as-is, insurance rates will still skyrocket the individual market will still be screwed up and guess what, the insurance companies will still get rich. so nothing will change. >> again, are you willing to allow it to collapse under its own weight and force the other side to come forward with a solution? >> my thought would be to fix it and i spent a lot of time putting forward a replacement bill that i think fixes it and

instead of fighting among republicans we ought to be promoting a replacement bill to fix it. ryan calls his bill repeal and replace and it fixes nothing and the disaster of obamacare will continue after ryan-care is put in. >> when is the last time you spoke to president donald trump? >> it's been a few days. i was at the white house yesterday and i met with officials on the policy and ten other senators and still my impression is the president is willing to negotiate. what i'm seeing in the house is they keep winning their committee votes and my prediction is if they keep winning committee votes they won't negotiate and conservatives have to bring down the rule to get a seat at the table and that means vote against the initial rule on debating on the obamacare lite bill. if that do that that's when the real negotiations begin.

>> a few weeks ago he was headed for louisville, kentucky your home state and that changed somehow, somewhere. i don't know if you had influence but now he's going to nashville, tennessee. how would you rate how engaged the president is right now in getting this done? >> you know, i think very much so but we all want repeal so we are unified on repeal. we're just not unified on the replacement part. i'm with the president. i want repeal and i'm with every republican that says obamacare is a disaster and let's repeal it but what was passed in congress was clean repeal. i won't vote to bail out the insurance company. i'm a physician. i care about the patient. i do not care about the profits of the insurance company and i'm not going to have the taxpayer ensuring the profit of the insurance company. >> speaking of taxpayer what do

you think of the story that broke last night? >> i think someone broke the law and committed a felony to reveal someone's tax return. that's number one. two, since senator sanders is such a good socialist i think he'd want to pay his fair share and expecting news he'll send a couple hundred thousand into the irs. >> senator, thank you for your time. rand paul, good talk to you. shannon. >> we'll hear what president trump has to say on all the topics tonight when he sits down with a one-on-one interview with tucker carlson on fox news. there's procedural rules and we are used to seeing them use them against each other and now they'll take the logjam and bring down the rule and let the negotiation begin. i like it. >> we're looking for the flow chart. a big president for president

trump what do you do about north korea. the rogue nation continues to antagonize the west and the secretary of state is on way to the region just arriving and a big meeting with china in a few days. how do you deal with kim jung un. >> and is james comey about to drop another bombshell? the fbi director set to tell lawmakers what he knows about the wiretapping claims and russia. senator joe manchin is here on new questions from his colleague lindsey graham. >> if it's not true then just tell us it's not true. why's it taking so long to get the answer? i have no evidence of it. i'm suspicious of it but now i'm getting concerned because it's taking so long to answer my letter. de to go from kid-friendly to kid-free.

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wild claim. i don't know. if it's not true just tell me it's not true. give the the answer. i'm suspicious but now i'm getting concerned because it's taking so long to answer my letter. >> bill: senator joe manchin joining us. do you think we'll get to the bottom of this? >> we're having a come to jesus meeting and i understand lindsey's frustration. i admire him for speaking out the way he does always in a non-partisan way. we have to get on with the business of this great country and can't have this smeared as it is. the nsa, fbi have to agree if there's information and if there isn't information state it to us so we can go forward. >> bill: i think we all want to figure out whether there's anything there then. sean spicer said there'll be

vindication. he also suggested he's extremely confident can based on what the president has said there's nothing going on here. where does that lead you? >> i understand accusations were made and if as the true it must have gone through a fisa court and if it wasn't the american people need to know and we need to move forward and get to the bottom of it and move on. the intel will bring us the facts. we're not getting the facts from the intel community the way we need to make the determination which way we go. the facts should take you to the truth and the truth should basically direct you on what actions need to be taken. we're not there. >> earlier this week, james comey apparently had a meeting with senators and the word was a clear explanation will be

provided. so maybe today is the day. >> today could be the day. i hope it is because we've been waiting for this day for quite a while. >> bill: what i'm trying to figure out in your answer whether the white house is not being forthcoming or the intel community doesn't have its act together. which is it? >> i've had no connections with the white house. they don't need to do any more than that. if they believe there's reasons for them to say what's been said or the president believes it it's out there it's up to the intel community to prove it's true or false. >> bill: the intelligence community has the information, right? >> we'll find out today. they better have the information if they don't seas -- it's a sorry state. >> bill: i don't believe they're privy to the evidence the intelligence committees is so what's it all about? >> we can only reveal what's up

to a classified level. the thing you all report on the info you get and the intel you are able to gather and we're able to talk about that. what we can't talk about is anything on a classified level and higher. that's where we need to get and the intel committee can get. if we can't get there and if lindsey's as upset as he is a select committee will be called for and special prosecutors if we're getting blocked. >> bill: the last point, senator, the frustration i think we're hearing from you and others around viewers frankly and those who participated in the election of last november are looking for facts and right now there's not a lot out there. >> there's not, bill. and me in the position i'm in i should be able to say with confidence this warrants us to go deeper into this or not it's hogwash. i can't give you any clarity to this because i don't know. this is what's frustrating to us

on the intel committee. we'll get the information today hopefully knows there's something and there's a reason for it and we'll do more investigation to clear it up. >> bill: what's your hunch? you heard you say,"i don't know" several times do you think there's smoke? >> there's a lot of smoke around the whole thing. we know russia and you reported and we know under a classified level that russia has done more to be involved in this election than ever before. we also know that basically it didn't have any direction as far as an outcome. it did make make a difference. what they tried to do we know that and will they be successful the next time we want to prevent that from happening but the past election they did not and in west virginia donald trump won by 69% versus 26%. they did not alter any of that outcome. >> bill: when did you talk to

president trump last, senator? >> it's been a couple weeks. >> bill: did you ask him about this? i did not. >> bill: thank you for your time. come back anytime. thank you from west virginia. shannon. >> shannon: well, the justice department is ready to bring charges related to one of thet u.s. company and a russian hackers could be the target this time. check this out. the future king of england doing something we don't always associate with fancy royal behavior. >> bill: what's going on there, kid? >> shannon: busting a move. ♪ you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.

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>> bill: there's your future king of england spotted busting a move in a swiss village nightclub resort looking good i would say, huh? >> shannon: i have the very same video of you and the move are surprisingly similar. do you guys party together? >> bill: well, as a matter of fact i've been watching for a while trying to pick up what he's putting down. prince william having a good time in switzerland. >> shannon: he lives in the public eye. he has to live it up. it's better than my dancing. >> bill: we have issues here. >> shannon: all right. russian hackers making headlines again. this time a possible connection with a massive data breach that surfaced last year at yahoo. the names, user names and pass words of more than a billion accounts were stolen.

we're joined live outside the headquarters. let's back up and refresh our memory about this big hack. >> it was unprecedented shannon when it was announced back in december in terms of its scope and yahoo announced the security was breached up with yards of a billion accounts and hackers were not believed to have gained access to financial records or any banking accounts. it was the second breach of yahoo's system in 206 announced in 2016. the first affecting 100 million users. it dated back to a three-year window where a lot of damage could have been done. yahoo said in a statement we believe an unauthorized third party stole data associated with more than a billion user

accounts. we've not been able to identify the intrusion associated with the theft. the obama administration through a spokesman was suddenly hinting they were hot on the trail of the alleged abusers. >> we'd want to be sure that before we indicate publicly who we believe or the intelligence community has concluded as responsible for the breach we'd want to make sure the revealing the information doesn't undermine the ability of investigators to learn what had happened. >> it culminates with the announcement of the indictment and charges against the alleged hackers. we expect that to come at a press conference at 11:30 this morning, shannon. >> shannon: we'll be standing by. thank you very much. >> bill: so president trump hits the road to replace obamacare but some members of his own party are not sold.

jim jordan a member of the freedom caucus is live and we'll get his reaction and there is this today. >> what i have hear is a copy of donald trump's tax return. for the record the first amendment gives us the right to public this return. it's not illegally published nor are we fake. pinch me, i'm real. >> shannon: rachel maddow going after president trump and his taxes. newt gingrich weighs in and joins us live next. >> the democrats are always on yesterday's story line than invariably concocted. they have to keep beating the drum otherwise what do they do? talk about how great our foreign policy was under obama or how hilary had all the answers?

>> bill: 9:31 now. senate confirmation hearing for senator dan koets is expected to

be the next director of national intelligence. a very important position. he will likely face questions about russia's interference in the election but if confirmed he'll be the president's top intelligence official. well watch that. >> shannon: a portion of president trump's 2005 tax return leaked to the media. rachel maddow spent a lot of time hyping up the news and made serious allegations along the way. listen to this. >> the big existential worry and the greater concern, the worry this president may be financially beholden to an individual, to an institution, to a country. we can't know that without getting his tax returns. couldn't the tax returns sort this out for us? if there are inexplicable dumps of foreign money into the president's coffers that cannot

be explained in normal business terms that's potentially a huge problem for somebody serving as president of the united states. >> shannon: when all was said and done the tax return revealed none of that. just what it should reveal president trump made money and paid taxes and he blasted it calling it fake news. mr. speaker, newt gingrich with us. >> good to be with you. >> shannon: there weren't massive unexplained foreign dumps of money but there was certainly a lot of speculation. >> first of all the release of that tax return is a felony and panel a grand jury and find out who released it and that person ought to go to jail. the city is filled with people who think they can break the law as long as their liberals because it morally right to do

anything you can to hurt donald trump. that's wrong. the law requires civil servants obey the law and when they dump something that's illegal they should be prosecutored as criminals. maddow is fake news so the attack shouldn't surprise anybody. the material turns out, guess what, donald trump is rich. as a rich person he makes a lot of money. as a smart rich money he uses lawyers and accountants to minimize his tax liability and still paid 25% of his income in taxes which for a wealthy person is a pretty high number. i think it's proof, look, he is a remarkably successful guy who has played by the rules and that particular tax return proves the "new york times" is wrong all along and president trump is

genuinely a successful man. >> shannon: donald trump tax race 25% and president obama paid 18.7% and bernie sanders paid 13.1% and comcast paid 24% in 2014. mr. speaker he had a higher effective tax rate than any of those critics. >> right. as trump himself said at one point nobody volunteers to pay extra taxes. it's perfectly reasonable and ironic bernie sanders is so successful at avoiding taxes but it's also a good argument for speaker paul ryan's efforts to get tax return. if we had a simpler tax code with a lower rate but one that made more sense i'd rather have people pay taxes than lawyers

and accountants to get out of paying taxes and i get a low enough rate they say let's just pay it and get it over with and do the paper work and maneuvering but your case is good. we have a famous socialist anti-rich person paying the lowest rate of any of the people you mentioned. there's a certain amount of egg on bernie's face for that fact. >> i want to go back to what you said earlier that there's a lot of leakers in washington. saying the ends justifies the means. you talk about the rule of law. do you think that's been eroded a lot in the last eight to ten years because a lot of critics have said how handling information has changed and if they think they have the moral high ground to release it for the greater good. >> first of all, president obama was a radical and brought the

anti-middle class and rule of law mind set of olinski and you look at the irs under obama it was clearly a law-breaking institution. you can go case after case. you look at the way they handled benghazi they were clearly lying in ways that were illegalal. -- illegal. the left has decided they're in a civil war win trump and will make heroes of people who break the law in order to hurt donald trump. well, you cannot have a civil servant to decide they'll release someone's tax returns. does that mean you're next or i'm next and what right do they have as an individual to make that decision. they'll have to panel grand juries and have to have people go after these folks and frankly when you have 97% of the political donations in the justice department given to hillary clinton they may have to bring in a whole new generation of lawyers to have people willing to enforce the law

rather than enforce their political ideology. >> shannon: i'm not going to lie, like a lot of people last night i was getting ready for bed as it went on and the data presented $150 million and $38 million in taxes it dawned on me that this could not have gone better for the president and leads me to the conspiracy theory and the reporter who said the president or the white house is behind the leaking their tax return. >> i doubt that very much. not because it was good for tru trump. look, when have you a genuinely honest guy and successful the picture turns out to be positive for him. and the white house and i talk to several people this morning, the white house is very upset about the degree to which illegal leaks and let's be clear, illegal leaks are

breaking the law and setting an environment where you can't plan and have meetings and can't have memorandum because you have no idea where it will show up next. it's important we reassert these behaviors are felonies and people don't just lose their jobs, they go to jail. once you start being serious about it the leaks will dry up rapidly. >> shannon: i think the release of the tax information i believe is up to five years in jail so it will be interesting now to see if the reporter is put in the hot seat about revealing he may know about how i landed in his mailbox. mr. speaker, always good to see you. thanks for visiting. >> good to be with you. >> bill: an interesting conversation and was the tax story real news or a rating stunt? we're looking at all sides of the story with howard kurtz. >> shannon: and a new report that rex tillerson is putting the human rights council on notice.

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packed with goodness. >> shannon: this is a fox news alert. two deadly bomb attacks going off in the syrian capital. reports saying at least 30 people were killed after an attacker detonated an explosive vest in the courthouse in the city of damascus. the attacks come after twin bombings over the weekend. so far no one has claimed responsibility for today's bombings. >> bill: and secretary of state rex tillerson arriving in japan. japan is stop number one and china this weekend. lieutena lieutenant colonel ralph peters. there's no consensus as to what to do about north korea.

is there any way to move that forward on a trip like this? >> no, i don't think so. all the serious north korea watchers do agree on one thing only beijing and china has any serious leverage over north korea and you'll hear a rationalization and they're accurate that china fears a collapsed korea. they fear a wave of refugees after a regime collapse. all true. bill, the crucial point everyone is missing is that china still sees north korea as an extremely useful military ally. in a war north korea would tie down an enormous proportion of u.s. assets. china is not ready to give up

and want a more rational leader but can't get rid of kim jong-un because he has the lineage authority. they take a long-term view and see north korea as valuable. >> bill: so when they say we could have 8 million to 12 million refugees you're saying it's an excuse. you're making the case from a military standpoint beijing sees them as an ally. >> it's evident. why would they give that up the adjacent waters would give china greater freedom of action. the chinese are real strategic

thinkers. our enemies play chess and we play jail bird checkers. >> bill: rex tillerson is the man on the job now. what is your expectation for him? is he still a question mark as how effective he can be? >> it's a question mark. he's a man with a great deal of international background and savvy and very persuasive and good negotiator and highly intelligent. as a ceo he had to worry about the bottom line. the secretary of state has to juggle a lot of balls and we will have to see. i want him to succeed. we should all want him to succeed and i think he's wise by not getting out front until he learns how our state department

and diplomacy works but at some point he'll have to emerge and frankly there'll be real battles within the trump administration between what i expect from tillerson a pragmatic approach and an ideologue. >> bill: he fired off a letter to the human rights group and said we may not share a common view on this while it may be the only such organization devote to human rights the council requires considerable reform for us to continue to participate. is this an american administration despite threats in the past would act on its words? >> it's dishonest and anti-american and yet i see it

valuable if not essential. it's not just a talking shop but ideas can be raised short of violent conflict and has done a lot of good from peace-keeping to feeding children and it's extremely valuable for the trump administration to stop using carrots and use a stick as well. funding. we provide a disproportionate measure of funding and should use that as a lthrottle. >> bill: you can threaten reform but whether you get any change is an open question. will you get something from this or not? >> i don't think we'll get a lot of this from the human rights council. when have you a human rights council for decades cuba and other players were involved and now you have saudi arabia it's a

human rights abuser and you have and despite that if we walk away from the human rights council they're voices are the only ones heard. we have to be the big boys. the grown ups and sometimes you have to fight back and hone they up the rhetoric on israel be a human rights abuser we have to hit back rhetorically and financially by the throttle of our funding. >> bill: thank you colonel for your time. ralph peters there in washington, d.c. shannon. >> shannon: hawaii taking its case against president trump's travel ban to court saying it hurts the feelings of muslims

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>> shannon: a legal battle over president trump's revised travel ban is heating up in courtroom in hawaii and maryland before it's supposed to go into effect. hawaii became the first state to file a lawsuit against the travel ban and four other states have joined that suit. we're joined live from seattle. what's the latest. dan, what do we expect today? >> shannon, we'll have hearings in three different states and that's because the travel ban is supposed to go into effect at midnight tonight and the states want to get in under the deadline and get some order. much of the focus on hawaii because that state is trying to block this order by getting restraining order today. federal district judge watson will hear oral arguments at 3:00 eastern time and likely to make his ruling at the end of the hearing. the state of hawaii is a plaintiff and has a plaintiff. he's an american mayor rid --

married to a syrian and claim they're harmed by not having her family visit and the travel ban allows for waivers and singles out citizens with family in the countries. >> the second draft is narrower and creates a waiver or exemption and you can still get in. >> in its response the justice department claims they cannot claim to be a victim yesterday because he hasn't even applied for a waiver to bring his mother-in-law into the u.s. >> shannon: does the suit amount to religious discrimination? >> yes, there's not the same problems with due process and

whether this seems to disfavor one religion. the first order put religious minorities in the front of the line when applying for refugee status and critics said it favored non-muslim. the second executive order does not convey any religious message or reference religion at all. the countries represent only a small fraction of the world's 50 muslim nation and home to less than 9% of the global muslim population. will that be persuasive in court today we'll know this afternoon. >> shannon: dan springer, thank you very much. >> bill: some in the media getting hold of president trump's tax return from 2005. was the leak of a private irs document legal and settle the ongoing allegations and why are some still not convinced. live reaction coming up next.

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>> shannon: a leaked irs tax return revealing how much donald trump made and paid in federal taxes. surprise, surprise he gave a lot of money to uncle sam. welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom" i'm shannon bream in for martha maccallum. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. the first two pages of the president's tax return obtained by a website released with great fanfare by rachel maddow on msnbc. the document shows mr. trump reported $153 million of income and paid $36.5 million in federal taxes that year. the president tweeting a bit earlier today does anyone believe a reporter who nobody ever heard of went to his mailbox and found my tax returns? at nbc fake news. we are live in washington. good morning to you. during the campaign this was a

big deal. what does it do to a key charge from the clinton campaign of 2016? >> hillary clinton made all kinds of allegations maybe perhaps he wasn't as rich as he was claiming to the public and the other charge from hillary clinton is it appeared to her donald trump simply did not pay any taxes at all and that's why he was hiding something. but now we see this leak and from 2005 it turns out donald trump had $150 million in income that we're. the first part about not being rich not true but also he paid $38 million in taxes. $5.3 million in regular income taxes. if you look at the breakdown, $31 million in the alternative minimum tax and self-employment tax of $1.8 million. almost $2 million. the point is in 2005 he paid over $38 million in taxes so the

claim from hillary clinton that claims went by where he paid no taxes at all simply not true, bill. >> bill: how does this compare to other prominent politicians? >> well, remember the whole argument about paying your fair share back in the 2012 campaign and president obama was saying that mitt romney didn't pay his fair share based on the percentage rate of taxes. here's how donald trump stacks up based on the graphic we just showed. the president in 2005 paid a rate of 25.3%. the average for someone with similar income was less than that, 22.48% and president obama paid less 18.7% and bernie sanders 13.5% in the tax year 2014. that's why rand paul last hour had this to say. >> since senator sanders is such a good socialist i think he'd want to pay his fair share.

i expect news he'll send a couple hundred thousand into the irs to pay his fair share. >> we'll see if the check comes in and some supporters will wonder why he didn't put it out sooner. >> bill: ed henry in washington and shannon with more. >> shannon: we bring in charles payne the host of making money on the fox business network. >> good morning. >> shannon: the president made some money. >> a little bit. >> shannon: and he paid some of taxes. >> and i have to tell you that royalty income, $67 million from that is absolutely amazing. that's based on the power of the trump brand. that's recurring revenue. you get it every year. people clamoring to attach properties to your name. it's something if you look at it this is something $42 million business and taxable income and s

salary almost $2 million. the thing i think we all wish we could achieve. i think we all know rachel maddow had something else in mind but it's the american dream come true. >> shannon: what will we see from a more extensive tax return? >> it's difficult to see what the left is trying to get to and where the revenue comes from. there's different ways of structuring corporations that make that a tough thing if you're trying to connect dots and phantom russian income or whatever. >> shannon: they spent a lot of time in the lead-up trying to connect the dots. 20 minutes of that. >> and came up with nothing except donald trump paid a lot of taxes. the only angle i think you'll see from the more reasonable folks on the left is they'll argue maybe we shouldn't abolish a and c for certain rich people.

as the $31 million. they're saying hey, if donald trump didn't have that his effective tax rate would have been substantially less and far less than the average person out there. that's the political spin on it. the bottom line as we see now in 2005 the president paid a lot of more taxes and a higher tax rate than a lot of people in the same bracket. >> shannon: the allegations was that for years he didn't pay taxes and 25% and you said he paid more than a lot of people in the bracket. it begs the question he said of course i'll pay as little as possible. anyone who makes that kind of money will have team of accountants and lawyers. it's all legal. >> it's all legal. you can debate what may be fair and unfair and what changes we need to make. right now we want taxes to be lower for everyone. that's one of the big things. yesterday we were at the business roundtable and 100 ceos

from the biggest company and jamie dimon the ceo of citi said if we get tax reform it would be the single biggest driver of the economy and repatriation at a lower tax rate. that would be a major boost to the economy, by the way we'd all benefit from it. >> shannon: and do better from better branding and licensing. >> if you can't afford trump a building isn't bad. >> shannon: good to see you. >> bill: more reaction from the great northeast now. former massachusetts center senator brown and fox news contributor. good morning to you. how is this being received where you are today? >> well, another attempted hatchet job and rachel maddow and what it tells me and what

others new we paid more in one year than we pay in a life time. the fact he paid obviously on a percentage basis higher than bernie sanders and obama and clinton and everybody else goes to point out once again that he was write and they were wrong. so another attempt to discredit the president which frankly backfired big time because it confirmed in fact he paid taxes. then you throw in the payroll taxes his businesses did and the other ancillary taxes through his businesses. he's paid a tremendous amount. i think charles is right, the best way to continue lowering people's taxes is the repatriation and lowering corporate tax rates to stimulate the economy. >> bill: i don't know how much you know about tax law but making it public? >> i am a lawyer. i remember my tax law and my first amendment law. listen, there's obviously a first amendment to allow for this type of thing but it's a

felony of federal that prohibits this type of disclosure. the question comes how did they get it. they got it anonymously. i'm not sure i believe that. i think it's worth an inquiry we the justice department because people have the right to keep their tax records private and the fact that rachel maddow and others at msnbc disregard that is inappropriate. >> bill: you think there's a felony? >> it comes down to how did they get it and it comes to a question of a fact and that's up to the attorney general. >> bill: you took the seat of senator ted kennedy. what a big deal that was in january of 2010. seven years now down the road from that election, what do you think the white house is in for and what paul ryan is in for?

can they get this done or not against the resistance of those in their own party? >> first of all it's a mess. seven years and some states have one insurer and it's driving up costs, driving up deductibles lowering care and coverage. what i've suggest the to the white house and others get everybody opposed to it with the senate and house parliamentians and the counsel and secretary price and the president and sit down and say rand, what's your issue. make sure it falls within reconciliation to do it in the first round. if you can't do the first round, mr. secretary can you take care of rand's concerns? yes, i can. do that with every member and get a legal ruling from the senate and house counsels and make sure the parliamentians feel it calls within reconciliation and get a commitment from the secretary price and president of the united states they'll address

those concerns in the second and third phase. that's the only way you get it done and i'm hopeful they'll take my advice. >> bill: i'd mark you down as confident. we'll see if that's the case or not. sir, thank you. >> it will be a lot of work. great to see you. >> bill: shannon. >> shannon: president trump taking his pitch for health care on the road heading for michigan and tennessee. later tonight he'll join tucker carlson for an exclusive to air on tucker carlson tonight at 9:00 p.m. a lot of questions to answer. you know -- >> bill: that's tonight. usa today, today. >> shannon: 9:00 eastern. the president and tucker sit down and hash it out. >> bill: so rachel maddow's announcement of the so-called announcement started with tay tweet and quickly learned twitter giveth and taketh away. the backlash on that and plus

there's this today. >> shannon: is that going too far. snoop dogg pretending to shoot a man dressed as president trump. we'll debate. >> bill: and paul ryan is pushing the health care bill hard and some supporters say it s breaking promises to voters. house caucus member jim jordan is our guest next. >> it's a band-aid for insurance company bailouts and doesn't fix the system.

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jim jordan is a member house freedom caucus and joining us. thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> shannon: you had lunch with the president last week and the weather canceled the bowling summit. how do you feel about the lines of communication? >> it's been very open. we talked to the vice president and secretary and president and staff. they've been open. the problem is the legislation itself. it doesn't repeal -- bill said in the previous segment there's a risk it doesn't repeal obamacare. there's not a risk. it does not repeal obamacare. that's the problem. >> shannon: you said there's been no substantive chances at an amendment. do you think it will change in the process? what happens procedurally? >> hopefully it will for the sake of the american people and the sake of the folks of those

who sent to us repeal it. we didn't tell the people we'd bring back the cadillac tax or repeal it but take medicaid expansion and extend it and repeal but provide insurance subsidies in the legislature. let's hope there's amendment. it was rolled out and went to mark-up and no amendments were allowed to be offered in the committee and in the budget that's not how american democracy is supposed to work. hopefully we'll get a chance to offer some amendments and changes in a fundamental way. >> shannon: you talked about having good communication with the white house the lines being open and conversations ongoing. here's what sean spicer said from the white house yesterday. >> the president was going to engage with members to hear their ideas and welcomed them and director mulvaney stated it and secretary price and the vice president. this has never been a take it or

leave it. i said it from this podium and this is an opportunity to hear from individuals and groups and insurance and victims of obamacare. >> shannon: the white house, sean spicer, saying it's never been a take it or leave it and some critics saying the message is this is a binary choice. essentially it is take it or leave it. what is it? >> that's the speaker's words. it's a binary choice. that's not the message from the white house and don't want it to continue to be a binary choice and want the process open like it's supposed to be. shannon, there's a reason why every organization is opposed to it and policy experts are opposed to it and why five conservative senators and conservatives in the house are oppose to the legislation. it doesn't do what we told the voters it would do and why it has to change.

>> shannon: if you don't get a chance to change it through anything substantive we're hearing a manager's amendment. maybe the white house can make changes and how that would work and where input you're giving the president would show up. >> we haven't seen the manager's amendment. that's typically offered by the committee chair and an amendment that could cover a number of issues. we haven't seen that. we don't know. what we know is we have to bring down the cost of premiums and you have to go after the insurance regulations that have driven up the costs and that's what we've been pushing for because that keeps our promise with the american people. >> shannon: what's worse for you not keeping the promise and facing the mid terms with a base that didn't get what you have campaigned on since 2010, 2012, 2014 or something gets passed that does not go well and the gop owns it? >> i think the choice should be this, let's do what we told the

voters we'd do and what they sent us to do. that's what i'm focussed on. nothing else. what did we tell the american people we'd accomplish. we said we'd repeal obamacare and bring down the cost of premiums for working class and middle class families who right now can't afford the insurance being offered to them today. >> shannon: it sounds like though if you don't get an extreme makeover soon a number of people will not vote yes and it will die in the house? >> then you pick it back up and get back to negotiating. that's sometimes how things work. if the legislation can't get the votes, time to change it. if that happens then i welcome that opportunity to put things back together and accomplish again what they sent us to accomplish. >> shannon: congressman jim jordan. always great to have you. >> thank you. >> bill: more to come on that. twenty past the hour. chaos tearing through a fireworks factory. this went on for some time and

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>> bill: things slowly getting back to normal in the east and a late-season blizzard and some got walloped. washington, d.c. getting less snow than expected. the storm weakened yesterday morning. actually it weakened so much as

it shifted a little bit and areas to the north and west saw more than a foot of snow. some places saw two feet of snow. that form is being blamed for six deaths and grounding thousand of flights and closing schools and businesses. now falling temperatures causing icy conditions on roads and sidewalks as people go back to work and school. some areas are 10 to 25 degrees colder than normal today. we did not get the worst of it here. >> shannon: it was no joke for some people. it was serious. >> bill: and with the chilly temperatures it will stick around so winter is still here. >> shannon: be careful. fbi director james comey expected to go on the record today and confirm whether or not his agency is investigating possible ties between president trump's campaign and russia. >> i don't want to bump into a criminal investigation if there

is one and the country need to know if there's something there and i wasn't an answer. >> shannon: catherine herridge is live in washington. good morning. will we get answers today? >> the issue is coming to a head. in an hour from now we'll have a news conference and we expect confirmation of the witnesses for the first public hearing next monday. in the meantime senator graham have asked whether there's evidence to support the wiretapping allegations and they expect an answer as early as today from the fbi director. yesterday another critic of the president weighed in. >> it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. it can be handled with a phone call. our intelligence agencies know whether trump tower was tapped

or not. it should be very simple. >> in a statement last night the chairman chuck grassley said he would hold up the confirmation of a deputy attorney general until he gets an answer from the fbi one way or the other. shannon. >> shannon: we're learning more how the information was collected, right? >> a key issue is what's called incidental intelligence collection and whether it was used lawfully and appropriately. it happens when a foreign target such as the russian ambassador is tracked and the phone calls and text messages of an american are picked up and based on our reporting we believe the former national security adviser mike flin was flagged in this way. a member of the senior intelligence committee also investigating russia explained the issue to fox news. >> all the allegations of the campaign and who it was done

with and what surveillance was done and if u.s. persons were wrapped in that is part of the broader investigation but we're eager to get that. >> and that rugs were -- russians were tag have >> shannon: catherine, thanks so much. >> you're welcome. >> bill: we have president trump heading out on a two-city tour focuses on jobs and the economy and later repealing obamacare. we'll follow all of that throughout the day, shannon. >> shannon: and it was supposed to be a tax return bombshell and turned out to be a dud. was it all about ratings? sean hannity calls it corporate jihad against the white house. >> here's what the scandal is tonight. we've been reporting on the deep

state acters in detail for weeks. they've been working tireless since november the 8 behind the scenes, why? they want to create a false narrative that president trump included with the russians.

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nashville and a lot of universities here. president trump earlier today said on twitter, quote, looking forward to a big rally in nashville and big crowds expect. will be fun. the thing to watch for is how hard did president trump push. the house republican health care bill since so many supporters said recently perhaps he should back out. tonight will we see a full-throated endorsement from president trump or more lukewarm support? shannon, i think his tone on health care is going to be everything. >> shannon: yeah, that will be key. before the rally though we understand he'll stop by the home of former president andrew jackson? >> that's right. it's the 250th anniversary of jackson's birth and he's also a president president trump feels a real connection willing five days after his presidency he

hung a portrait of jackson in the oval office. both men were outsiders who many people initially dismissed and represented a threat to the elite and both loved a fight. mr. jackson in real fights with real guns and president trump with twitter. it's about choice and today has symbolic significance as well. >> shannon: we'll tune in for your coverage. kristen, thank you. >> i believe this is the only set of the federal taxes reporters have ever gotten a hold of and the first amendment gives us the right to public the return. it's not illegal published. nor are we fake. pinch me, i'm real. >> bill: that's part of the report from last night and the white house and the president personally pushing back on that report from msnbc. it chose two pages of an old tax

return filed in 2005. the white house blasting the network saying the following, quote, you know you are desperate for ratings when you're willing to violate the law to push a story about two pages of tax returns from over a decade ago, end quote. there's more to that too. host of media buzz jay sekulow and the american center of law and justice. what's they -- the law say about making it public? >> as a former employee of the internal revenue service or working in concert distribute and put out to the public tax returns or tax return information that actually under the criminal code and internal revenue code is a felony, bill. when i was an irs lawyer and

started in the office of chief counsel we had a specific provision that stated without any question do not disclose taxpayer information. it's not just the return but the information return. if do you you're subject to indictment and felony prosecution and you can go to jail. it's very serious when you distribute. >> bill: and is this a reporter or rachel maddow or other executives on msnbc and they get the information doesn't the first question have to be if they understand the law who gave it out, who gave this to us and how did we get it? >> that's correct. the media will claim and i've argued many of these first amendment cases to the supreme court and they'll say they were for the first amendment of the broadcast. it probably is true depending upon and the factor will be did

they ask for this information? they're saying it just showed up with this reporter. if the reporter was involved in obtaining it that can be problematic. it wouldn't be problematic for rachel maddow for the reporter though the underlying aspect is if the informing was leaked from the internal revenue service it's very serious. it's a felony and people should be prosecutored. >> bill: jay, -- prosecuted. >> bill: it was filed on the drudge report and the reaction was it was something else. you watched it and you saw it and you're gauging the fallout now and how do you see it? >> will, this was a big-time blunder by rachel maddow because the way in which she dragged it out two things happened. one is she had a news story but

she turned it into a partisan spectacle with a 20-minute monologue before she produced the news and was so gleeful of it and by hyping it she gave the white house time to put out a statement to criticize the media and confirming the fact that president trump paid $38 million in taxes and so she fumbled away the scoop. >> bill: sean hannity reacted off the air and he is lumping her in with the corporate organization when he said the following. >> the corporate jihad being waged by nbc news against president trump. they're part of the propaganda to destroy trump at all costs and releasing his 2005 tax return proves they'll spin any

conspiracy to destroy the commander-in-chief including working with people who have clearly broken the law. >> bill: a lot of people will agree with him and looked at the media coverage of the administration since it took office as you have as well. what does this story do if nothing changes based on what we've seen and do to the arguments on the right and left. >> i'm troubled by the illegal leak and invasion of privacy but this particular story does indict nbc because i think most news organizations had this dropped in their lap would have published it but the way maddow presented it and hyped it up they started speculating where it came from. maybe trump or one of his people leaked it. according to david k. johnson who just wrote an anti-trump book last year it showed up in

his mailbox they don't know. but to play the game a little bit if someone on donald trump's behalf wanted to leak it i doubt it would be this reporter. >> bill: howard kurtz and jay sekulow. thank you. shannon. >> shannon: rachel maddow started the hype on social media and teasing the audience on a tweet 90 minutes before the hort report and then the twitter backlash. and new controversy over what many call a taste music video. snoop dogg shooting a clown dressed like president trump. we'll debate it.

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warehouse in central israel. this thing went on. it was all captured on camera on and on and when it was over two people were dead and seven others injured. this is north of tel aviv. the building collapsed and now investigators are trying to figure out what caused this explosion. >> shannon: president trump responding after rapper snoop dogg released a music video that shows the rapper shoot clown resembling the president with a toy gun. the president tweeting can you imagine what the outcry would be if snoop dogg failing career and all had aimed and fired the gun at president obama. jail time. here to talk about it is rachel campos-duffy and lis smith former campaign manager for martin o'mally. do you think this would be different during the president obama years. would it work with the

democratic president? >> look, i remember in 2012 working on president obama's campaign and ted nugent went out and made some comment could be perceived as threatening towards the president. the way the white house handled then i thought was smart was they weren't going to give it air time and give ted nugent a platform for the hateful language and i think that's the approach that would be smart to take towards what i think is an offensive and over-the-line video from snoop dogg. it's irresponsible to put images out there and don't think it will have defenders either democrats or republicans for this sort of stuff. as a democrat who really cares about having more civil discourse i would hope videos like this do not get replayed. ism

>> shannon: >> shannon: rachel we saw defense as and artistic view and have we changed how with we have public discourse with politicians we disagree with? >> i don't think anybody has put up with -- you mentioned barack obama dealing with ted nugent but we've never seen anything like this. i'm glad donald trump is tweeting about it because he's exposing the hypocrisy and the violence and the rallies where they accused conservatives and it was video showing it was liberals inciting the violence. i'm glad he's doing this. there's a lot of republican

politicians who know who snoop dogg is and the more liberals do this it's highly unlikable and who's is doing more to make black america great again? snoop dogg glamorizing drug and gang culture or donald trump making our economy better and making it easier for people to start businesses and get out of cycles and poverty and like the rally he's doing tonight bringing equality and justice and education to poor people. >> shannon: is this a smart move by snoop dogg. he's getting a ton of attention. it's probably going to be a positive thing for him for those who follow him and are critics of the president. he knows it's explosive and will get a ton of attention. >> it is going to get attention and i think it's incumbent upon us to not give it attention. the images are disturbing and we

need basic boundaries here where we do not depict violence against the president. especially just five years after a democratic congresswomanan being shot and i think the president has more to with his time than tweet about the video and there's a health care bill we're debating. >> shannon: let's not get side tracked. the supreme court is all about the first amendment and strongly protects groups. rachel, it's america, thank goodness it is and we're free to have our expression. >> you can express yourself but you know who has a lot of time on his hands is barack obama. he should sent a press release condemning snoop dogg and had this been done against barack

obama every member of republican congress would have had a microphone stuffed in their face asking them to weigh in. it's not fair the hypocrisy of this and the way it's treated differently when it's against a republican or a white man. >> shannon: we have to leave it there but rachel and lis we all agree this is tacky and potentially dangerous. should not be happening regardless of who the president is. thank you both. >> bill: jon scott is up next on "happening now" good morning to you. >> eleven minutes away we're waiting for the investigation into russia as we're hearing we'll get news from fbi director james comey as soon as today about russia and about the allegations that president trump and president obama -- sorry, president trump says president obama had him wire tapped and new charges of major hacks of

yahoo and the justice department believes russia was behind it. >> bill: see you jon. in the meantime a good example how to go viral in 140 characters or less and rachel maddow promising a scoop and when the bombshell fizzled guess who turned on her?

>> bill: stories break online and twitter was abuzz last night at 7:30 eastern time rachel maddow tweeted the following "breaking we have trump tax returns 9:00 p.m. eastern time, msnbc, seriously." it was not long before the social media tables were turned. a fox contributor was up last

night and saw it all unfold as many of us did and what happened? >> it started with the tweet from rachel maddow tweeting the story. the suspense and intrigue and people thought it would be a big bombshell and it turned out it wasn't. >> he paid $38 million in taxes and took a big write down of $103 million. more on that later. if you add up the lines for income he made more than $150 million in that year, mazeltov. >> bill: >> people were expecting more and were served a bore side dish. >> bill: they turned on her as

quickly. >> and you're offering a big thing and i think reporters felt similar to how the rest of america felt. let's look at a tweet from a man who summed it all up in a nutshell. he says, after that ridiculous speculative long-winded tin-foil hatted opening maddow had nothing. nothing, my god. >> bill: here is matt drudge. maddow will get huge ratings but so many saw the fail. andy lack runs nbc. >> others feel it was a gift to president trump handed on a silver platter because it showed he paid a quarter of his salary in taxes which is right on the money about $38 million he paid

in taxes. donald trump jr. chimed in saying thank you for proving to your trump-hating followers how successful donald trump is and he paid $40 million in taxes. >> bill: you wonder what happens today, right, carley? if that was last night you're watching more stuff roll in already today. >> that's right. i saw rachel maddow's name starting to trend and clicked on the story and said oh, my goodness and turned on the tv. >> bill: my hunch is people will watch tucker tonight when he sits down with the president. thank you, carley. shannon, what's next? >> shannon: brand new details on alleged russian interference in the race for the white house. lawmakers about to give an update on their investigation and fbi director james comey may shed some light today as well on president trump claims his phones were tapped during the campaign.

>> it's been a newsy kind of morning. [ laughter ] >> how did you survive your first snowfall here? >> i did not fall down yet. but today is another day. >> there's still time. we'll see you on the radio everybody. happening now starts right now. >> jon: we are awaiting to see air force one take off in just a few moments as the president heads to detroit while the white house punches back on a report about mr. trump's taxes. good morning. welcome to happening now. i'm jon scott. >> i'm heather childers, in for jenna scott. president trump is off to music city to meet with auto executives and union workers, he's expected to announce a roll back of rules. while law makers like lindsey graham depend answers on his allegations of wear tapping by president obama and his campaign ties to russia. all of this after a night of