premiums and it shows our reforms bring premiums down and the can't score what tom price is going to do to further bring market competition or bring prices down. we're very confident this bill which already shows will lower premiums combined with the things that price will do and also state-based >> let me go back to one thing and it's hard to quantify. we had a good risk pool in wisconsin. utah had a very good risk pool. when have you a risk pool that covers the catastrophic cost of people are catastrophic illnesses, the rest of the insurers, the rest of the insurance pool don't have to pay for those costs. so by directly helping support the people who have preexisting conditions, with their catastrophic costs, all other insurance products don't have to price that into their insurance and you dramatically stabilize and lower the price of

insurance. now cbo can't quantify that right now because they haven't looked at the new risk pool wisconsin will be setting up as a result of this law. so we are very confident that we are moving the ball in the right direction. we are restoring market freedom. we think this approach is just much smarter and better on how to deal with getting costs down, improving access, including people with preexisting conditions. you are the one i was pointing to earlier. sorry. >> reporter: the repeal is silent on where members should get health insurance. where do you think members should get their insurance. >> i haven't given thought to that. when you don't have obamacare, you don't have obamacare. if we wouldn't have obamacare, we wouldn't have obamacare. i haven't given any thought to that. >> thank you, mr. speaker. realizing you are the speaker of the house and not the leader of the senate, senate republicans have really dismissed this bill. it seems all but dead on arrival over in the senate. how successful will you be

as speaker if your bill passes here and kind of makes it through the house and then sort of start from scratch over there realizing this is a legislative process but you have got a lot on your plate. how successful is that? >> i'm the speaker of the house. i'm not the majority leader of the senate. so my job is to move bills through the house. let me describe to you in one word what all this is about and what is happening. legislating. this is legislating. this is going to the regular order process. here in the house we are going through four committees. we constantly get feedback. we constantly get suggestions from members. and we are working at bridging those gaps to get, to make improvements in the bill so that members -- so we have a bill that can pass. and we feel like we're making great strides and great progress on getting a bill that can pass because it incorporates the kinds of feedbacks from members from all walks of life in our conference. i have not heard from those senators. the senators who have been critical of the house bill, none of them have called me, so i'm not sure what exactly

their concerns are. all i would say is senators are not helpless with respect to the house. the house passes its bill. it sends it to the senate, and then they get to take it from there. senators, if they have a concern, or an issue are free to amend that bill when it goes over there. that's part of the legislative process. so i can't speak to why a senator doesn't want a bill to pass here or what, but, they will have every opportunity to make a change to this legislation because that's how legislation is written. house passes a bill. house amends a bill, sends it to the senate. the senate brings up a bill and the senate can amend a bill and then we go to conference. that's the legislative process. >> on the president's budget, some of your republican colleagues have voiced serious concerns about cuts to the state department. even the president's own defense secretary in the past raised some concerns. are you concerned about the consequences of slashing the state department budget? >> honestly, i haven't looked at the budget function. that's function 150. i haven't looked closely at

what they are proposing in function 150. this is the beginning of the budget process. this is the thing i have immersed myself in two decades here. when a president submits a budget, that is the beginning of the budget process. then it goes to the budget committees. and then it goes to the appropriation committees and we have a full hearing about how priorities will be met but do i think i can cut spending and get waste out of government? absolutely. how and when and numbers that's something that will go as time goes on. that's the beginning of this process. thank you. >> reporter: guaranteed you will pass healthcare bill? >> jon: one of the headlines here as you heard the speaker of the house he says that president trump has been very involved in getting the replacement bill for obamacare passed, trying to do some negotiating and some head knocking, if you will. there had been suggestions earlier this week that there is some bad blood between the speaker and the president over some remarks the speaker made back during the campaign season. but he says that's all water

under the bridge. he and the president are working hand in glove, he says, to try to come up with a bill that will pass both the house as well as the senate. ♪ ♪ >> jon: so reaction pouring in now after president trump unveils his very first budget. good morning, welcome to "happening now" i'm jon scott let let i'm heather childers in for jenna lee. head knocking. >> arm twisting, head knocking. the president calling trillion-dollar plus proposal america first. budget blueprint to make america great again. this budget calls for the broadest cuts since world war ii. $54 billion of cuts to pay for bigger military with the e.p.a., foreign aid and cultural programs among those taking the biggest hits. and mr. trump's budget plan

includes 1.5 billion-dollar down payment for the u.s./mexico border wall. chief correspondent john roberts is live for us with more on that story. hi, john. >> heather, good morning to you. we talked to mick mulvaney he said what it did the office of management and budget went through everything the president talked about on the campaign trail and developed a budget policy for it that's what we see out today. some spending increases, but slashing spending elsewhere. a couple of the big ticket items, first of all, an additional $54 billion in defense spending. 52 of that will go to the department of defense. another 2 billion for other departments. dhs will see an increase of 6.8%. that's about $3 billion. veterans affairs, their budget will go up 6%. that's about $4.4 billion. now, in order to pay for all of this, without increasing the deficit, because that's one of the lines that the president wanted to hold here, those spending increases have to be offset with spending decreases elsewhere. so here's some of the departments that are seeing the biggest cuts in

spending. first of all, the state department, its budget is going to go down 28%. they are cutting $10.1 billion from the state department budget. e.p.a. will see a 31% decrease, which will include the eventual elimination of 3200 jobs. hhs will see a 15.1 billion-dollars reduction that's 17.9%. that will include a dramatic reorganization of the national institutes of health. the president also proposes to end funding for the national endowment for the arts and corporation for public broadcasting among other agencies. and then as well other doubts funding, the global climate change initiative will go away and united states will end payments to the u.n. green climate fund. the omb director mick mulvaney said it's what the president ran on and what the president got elected on and what they are delivering today. here he is. >> you had an america first candidate. america first president and now america first budget. more money to defend the

country. more money to enforce the laws and secure the borders. more money to take care of our vets. more money for school choice and less money for things like foreign aid. that's exactly what the president said he was going to do. that's what the budget is. >> reporter: what the president says he is also going to do is fight this new court order from this judge in hawaii judge derek watson blocking his new immigration order on ban taking effect. he says regardless what the white house says it's a muslim ban in another form, actually taking. so statements that people at the white house and people associated with the white house, including rudy giuliani said about the potential for a muslim ban and walking it back later and said, no, i'm going to look at what they said, not what they did. the president last night clearly riled by the action saying that he's not going to back down. >> we're going to fight this terrible ruling. we're going to take our case as far as it needs to go, including all the way up to the supreme court. [cheers]

we're going to win. we're going to keep our citizens safe. and, regardless, we're going to keep our citizens safe. believe me. >> reporter: close advisor to the president told me wasn't surprised by the court action in hawaii. they will take it to appeal. of course, heather, that's going to put them back in the ninth circuit of appeals the liberal ninth circuit where they lost the last time around. they think that they are on much better legal footing this time than they were the last time but we will see because this will get heard on appeal very soon. heather? >> we will talk to legal experts and get their opinion later. thanks, john. >> jon: thanks, heather. >> jon: for more on the proposal and that is what it is correspondent for the "wall street journal." it would appear that president trump already may be in some trouble with this. because, first of all, the congress sets the budget. and the majority leader in the senate mitch mcconnell has said this thing is dead on arrival at least when it comes for the cuts intended for the state department and

agency for international development. so, what exactly is the president up to here, carol? >> this is typically how things go. this is a blueprint. the president is laying out his priorities. youou know, it's never really the case that the president gets everything he wants in a budget. what it does do is tell us, you know, what the president's priorities are. how he would in an ideal world put some of his campaign promises in to practice in terms of, you know, actually funding them or defunding them. and we learned kind of where he thinks that, you know, things should be cut and where they shouldn't be cut and among them the president, this is a budget that's clearly leans on hard power, meaning beefing up the military and diminishing soft power by cutting foreign aid in the state department and other programs. and so we see that we see he is moving forward or ideally would with his promise to build a border wall and to beef up immigration.

and, yet, you know, one of the interesting things about this is that we have seen a lot of very early and very stiff resistance from members in the president's own party. particularly on some of these cuts to the state department. >> jon: well, and for instance the e.p.a., a cut of 30%, that is actually bigger than his own e.p.a. administrator wanted. >> right. and, you know, this is -- this is a president who has been critical of the e.p.a. he has promised to roll back regulations. so it's not necessarily surprising. i think that he will not get everything that he wants, including possibly those large -- a cut that large to that organization. but, also, that agency. also, you know, there is contradictions in his budget a president who said that he wants to eliminate all disease and, yet, is he cutting the national institutes of health by or proposing to cut some 20%. there are some things that would potentially hurt some of his supporters. there is a provision in there that would cut subsidies for airports in rural areas.

that's obviously a place where president trump did very well. so, it's kind of a mixed bag, but it's our first real glimpse at how this president is going to take or would take awful his campaign promises and the rhetoric and put it down on paper and ideally into practice. is he going to have to get through congress. >> jon: i mean, these are the things that he campaigned on. he said more money for defense. let's build a wall with mexico. let's cut some of these federal programs that aren't doing their jobs. this is a budget that reflects his campaign promises. >> it absolutely does. and that's what the white house said. the white house is unapologetic about it. this is what the president said he would do. he is putting these forward. as you heard the house speaker ryan say in his press conference, you know, this is just the very beginning of a process in which congress will come in and actually set the numbers and all that you know, it's no surprise in the

president's budget really gave based on how he campaigned. he has a long way to go before he sees a lot of these things actually put in practice. >> jon: mentioned paul ryan we saw him address with regard to the obamacare replacement bill. charles krauthammer talked about that and the president's relations to it last night on bill o'reilly's program. listen to this. >> i think trump has decided that he is tied to the mast of this ryan ship. that's the vehicle which is he going to prevai fail or succ. >> jon: does this bill stand a chance? >> it is definitely a very unlikely that this is a bill that's going to come out the way it came in. there needs to be changes he needs to get a number of votes. one interesting thing i thought about what paul ryan said when he was asked about this rift between the president and the speaker, he said there is no rift

between the two of us personally, but maybe our staff and our supporters. lower level folks. so there is some tension there if not between the two principles then at least between the two camps. >> jon: carol lee from the "wall street journal." you're going to have an interesting couple of months ahead i imagine. >> sure will. >> jon: thank you for joining us. >> thank you, always a pleasure. >> coming up, an explosion rocks paris as france is locked in a state of emergency after a string of deadly terror attacks. what police say about the cause of this blast. we're live with the breaking developments. plus, a kidnapping victim's dramatic escape. wait until you see this. how she made it out of a moving car alive. you're here to buy a car.

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>> jon: a fox news alert on an explosion at the international monetary fund offices in paris. french police say it was a letter bomb. and one person is slightly

injured. ben gentleman palestinian hall is following thiben benjam. >> we think back to the terrible terror attacks we have seen in that country. i must stress we don't know who is responsible for this one. it's a reminder how on edge the country is. how quick to respond the police are to any sort of explosive device like this. the attack took place this morning at the office of the international monetary fund the imf when letter bomb exploded in the face of a secretary. the victim was injured on her hands and face. police and armed soldiers immediately locked down the building and surrounding streets. they have now confirmed the package was sent by post and explosion was probably caused by homemade device. they are also saying there will been telephone threats at the imf over the last few days. it's not clear if they're connected. one possible connection though is that the german finance minister received a similar bomb yesterday. that was claimed by a far left greek organization

opposed to austerity. so police are very much looking at that connection there. but this was not the only attack in france today. further south near the city of niche, in a place called grass. there was a shooting at a high school which left 8 injured. the shooter who has now been arrested is a 17-year-old student heavily armed with a rifle, two handguns and grenades. is he unidentified. his target appears to have been the head master of that school. in response to that the french government sent out terror alert via a nationwide app. implemented by the french authorities just after the deadly november 2015 attacks in paris. all these attacks come just six weeks before the french hold elections. it's widely expected any attacks like this will push voters further to the right okay have impact on not only france but europe. back to you. >> jon: benjamin hall obviously a very time there.

>> heather: lucky to be alive jumping out of moving car to escape her abduct tore. the president sending a good chunk of his nashville rally berating the press calling them bad people. accusing thed me afterrunning a smear campaign against him. howie kurtz is here to weigh in. >> it's the fake, fake media. fake news, folks. a lot of fakes. hers. breathe right. experience exciting offers on sales event is here. our most elevated suvs ever. get up to $2,500 customer cash on select 2017 models for these terms. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. with e*trade's powerful trading tools, right at your fingertips,

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>> jon: right now, police in alabama are searching for a kidnapper after the victim escaped by jumping out of a car trunk and it was all caught on surveillance video. look at this. she was able to escape when the driver pulled into a gas station, unlatching the trunk from the inside, imagininmanaging to jump from te car as it starts to pull away.

she received minor injuries. the woman told police the armed man forced her into the trunk during a robbery attempt after she said she didn't have any money. police are still searching for this man. he was seen on surveillance tape from inside the gas station. >> heather: president trump once again taking on the media and his speech in nashville last night. calling journalists bad people for peddling what he calls fake news and predicting that his words would be twisted once again, taken out of context in a smear campaign by the press. >> you just booed obamacare. they will say trump god booed when he mentioned. [laughter] they're bad people, folks. they're bad people. tonight i will go home and i will turn on and i will say, listen, i will turn on that television. my wife will say, darling, it's too bad you got booed. i say i didn't get booed. this was a love fest. no, no, they were booing obamacare. watch. a couple of them will

actually do it almost guaranteed. but when we call them out, it makes it harder for them to do it. so we will see. it's the fake, fake media we want americans to be able to purchase the health insurance plans they want. not the plans forced of on them by our government. >> heather: howard kurtz is the fox news media analyst and host of media buzz right here on the fox news channel. he joins us to talk a little bit more about it. how are you doing today? >> great, heather. >> heather: bad media. he is back at it. he is not entirely wrong though. some the mainstream media they have spun things before and i remember the inauguration specifically somebody called it dark and militant. dark because it was raining. it wasn't militant that i saw. >> well, by donald trump standards, those were just jabs. he was just having a good time doing. so greatest hits. kind of being playful compared to. so harder shots he has taken like enemy of the american people and that sort of thing. ford o. for the record i don't think anybody reported that donald trump got booed

at that rally. i thought he actually used much stronger language when the president sat down with tucker carlson as we saw last night. there he called nbc, in particular, despicable. he threw in cbs, abc and a couple other networks, not fox by the way. he recounted how he had produced the apprentice, a hit show for nbc. then he said it was a disaster after he left indirect shot at arnold schwarzenegger. for trump, i think, some of this is personal. >> heather: he is right though. he did do a lot for nbc. it was highly rated show and it wasn't doing as great when arnold schwarzenegger was there, which is why he probably isn't going to there any more. he wasn't wrong about it. >> no. arnold's ratings nose dived and trump is has been about that. sure, that's a fair point. >> heather: let's talk about rachel maddow and her trump tax dud. today she is blaming people saying they expected too much. this is what donald trump had to say about it he tweeted out does anybody really believe that a reporter who nobody ever heard of went to his mailbox

and found my tax returns @ nbc fake news. >> well, first of all, it wasn't fake news in this sense. the white house, because rachel maddow took so long and so overexcited in her tweeting and her touting and her hyping up of the news about trump's tax returns which we will give you after the next commercial break, the white house actually got a statement out first confirming the figures, that, in fact, it actually helps donald trump, he paid 25% tax rate in 2005, so people thought he wasn't paying anything are wrong. but the reference there about the reporter, this is david k. johnston a former "new york times" reporter who brought the story to rachel maddow who says that the two-page summary of the trump tax returns just showed up in his mailbox and the president is saying he doesn't believe that. where i had a problem was when johnston and maddow speculating that maybe it was donald trump or one of his team that had leaked this to david k. johnston, impossible to believe because this guy is pretty anti-trump, wrote a book

about trump last year, called trump b.t. barnum and worse. if they were going to leak it, which i don't believe by the way, that he would be the guy to get the special delivery in the mailbox. >> heather: should he continue along this line? i mean, people tend to love to have someone to hate and so the people kind of come on board and hate the mainstream media. is it working for him? >> well, you know, trump has clearly made a decision. of the president has that the press is so negative toward him. there has been an avalanche of negative press that started with the general election and continued toward the transition and seeing it very much now in the first 50 or so days that he is going to treat the press as the opposition party as he put it, as the enemy. i sometimes wonder whether he spends too much time and energy on that. we know that the press is not very popular. we know his base does not trust the media but i'm not sure how much that helps him pass an obamacare replacement, gets tax cuts through congress, deal with

an infrastructure program. it certainly makes him feel good. sometimes we deserve it. but i don't know whether it makes sense to continue with this level of intensity. >> heather: yeah. sometimes reporters seem to ask for it if you listen to sean spicer's briefings every day some of the questions that are asked. howie, thank you so much for joining us. >> good to see you. >> heather: good to see you. >> jon: signs of life for crippled u.s.s. cole industry. companies putting out help wanted signs after the president blocked e.p.a. restrictions. is it too late to revive the u.s.s. cole industry? and two more judges deal a blow to the president's travel ban in what the white house is calling unprecedented judicial overreach? our panel debates next. ♪ chanting even though i'm here. it's almost like the virtual reality of business communications.

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>> heather: welcome back. mining companies are hiring new workers as the coal industry looks to make a come back under the trump administration. senior correspondent mike tobin reporting live for us from hazard, kentucky. how are you doing, mike? >> reporter: good, heather. behind me is the e 14 mine part of perry county coal. it was shut down during the obama years. if you hear background noise that's because this mine is up and running again. the people here in coal country make no bones about it a new president with new attitude toward coal means new jobs. carlos sturtle kentucky coal

miner, doing something he hasn't done in three years. he is mining coal. >> thank youful to have a job again. >> reporter: bounce in the economy created demand for steel. you need coal to make it adversary moved out of the house and president moved in started rolling back regulations that crippled mining. here at the mine since 2012 they have laid off 460 guys. in the last two months they have hired back 90. as technology advances, equipment becomes more efficient requiring less manpower. in the obama years some coal fired plants shut down or infrastructure to burn natural gas. that put coal in competition with fracking and cheap fossil fuel. >> coal is coming back and there will be employment in the future. but whether it will not unlikely go back to where it was 10, 15 years ago. >> reporter: we tail business people in little

coal towns like hazard, kentucky are happy for any come back but know they will never come all the way back. >> when they started doing all the layoffs my business went down tremendously. >> reporter: now the question is are the new jobs related to something tangible the president has done like rolling back the regulations or a sense of optimism because, instead of an adversary in the white house, they have a coal proponent there? the people we spoke to from the university experts to miners to people in the center of the town say it's all about the optimism. heather? >> heather: more jobs, better for everyone. thank you so much, mike. >> you got it. >> a watered down version of the first order. that was also blocked by another judge. and should have never been blocked to start with. this new order was tailored to the dictates of the ninth

circuits, in my opinion, flawed ruling. [cheers] this is the opinion of many, an unprecedented judicial overreach. this is a watered down version of the first one. this is a watered down version. and let me tell you something, i think we ought to go back to the first one and go all the way which is what i wanted to do in the first place. [cheers] the danger is clear. the law is clear. the need for my executive order is clear. i was elected to change our broken and dangerous system and thinking in government that has weakened and endangered our country and left our people defenseless. >> jon: well, you heard him there, a fired up president trump slamming a federal

court decision blocking his revised travel ban. let's bring in julia epstein the counsel for the judiciary committee and former staff director on the house reform committee. brad blakeman former deputy assistant to george w. bush, among many other things. welcome to both of you. >> thanks. >> jon: so you might have heard julian in that speech president trump said the law and the constitution give the president power to suspend immigration when he deems it necessary. so, if he has deemed it necessary, why did the court shoot this one down? >> that's an excellent question, jon. i agree with that the president has enormous power on immigration, particularly when it effects national security. but this administration has been so incompetent, so understaffed and so overheated in the rhetoric that it has managed to accomplish in the courts a roll back executive power

and just extraordinary ways. you would just never think that a president's order would be checked like this by the courts but because the president's rhetoric has been so strong. he was out saying he wants the original muslim ban, which was struck down as unconstitutional, then is he attacking the courts. he has become his own worst enemy. this should have never -- this should have never been gotten to the point that it got to. the president should have this ability to control immigration, but this has been so badly managed that this administration has now been slapped down four separate times in the federal courts as trying to do something as unconstitutional. this is embarrassment to this administration that has accomplished very little in its first 50 days. >> jon: we can get to the politics of it in a minute, brad. but a judge should not be ruling on rhetoric, right? a judge should be looking at the law as it is written and determining whether or not that law passes the constitutional tests. >> right. and article 2 gives the president broad powers in the president's own sworn

oath to us is to preserve, protect, and defend the united states. that's exactly what the president is doing in this order. it doesn't matter what a candidate says. it matters what a president does. and the four corners of this executive order are what judges should have ruled on constitutionally. they went beyond that they read things into the order. and they also inferred the president's intent as a candidate in the order. which is unheard of. look, this is why we have a supreme court, a court of last resort. and when it gets there, i believe even a four-four court will determine that the president acted within his powers to keep us safe and to restrict those of questionable intent and background of coming to america. >> i largely agree with what brad just said. i think when it comes to the supreme court there is at least a 50-50 chance that this order will survive. and i agree with brad when he said you shouldn't look at campaign rhetoric to determine what's in the four corners of a particular action on the part of a president. but even after this president was elected, him and those around him kept referring to this as a

muslim ban. so the courts do have the ability to look beyond the written language, the text and look at the context and if they make the determination that this is really motivated as a religious test, then they have the ability to strike it down. this, again, should have never gotten to this point. if it was better handled by this administration, we would have a new policy in place right now. >> jon: brad, i'm sorry, well, brad, the past presidents have made rulings on immigration. they have, you know, blocked certain classes of people or people from certain countries from getting in to this country. why does this judge or these judges now say this president doesn't have that option, that ability? >> well, unfortunately, i think judges are now emboldened to do things that other judges wouldn't even think of doing. it's become a politicization of the bench. and that's puts a cancer on our judicial system. they should only be doing what they are required to do under the constitution and go no further. they also see this

president, unfortunately some judges, as illegitimate. they bought into the argue. that he is a weak president as julian said, disorganized. when he is not. he is doing what he believes is in the power of the presidency. i happen to believe he is doing the right thing. it doesn't matter what his rhetoric is. it matters what the -- again, to go to the just what is written in the executive order. and if you go by that then certainly the president has acted within his constitutional authority. his rhetoric means nothing. his words mean everything. and those words that are in the executive order. >> well, there is disagreement about whether the words can go to the motivation. and there is disagreement in the judicial circles about whether you can look at the motivation. here the courts said yes. there is nothing so unusual about this. this is no more unusual than a court going after obamacare and declaring that would be unconstitutional. the right can't have it both ways on this question. look, if this administration were a college basketball team they would not even make it into the tournament. they have been struck down

now four times by the federal courts on immigration. healthcare is in disarray and imploding quickly. they have done nothing on jobs. this kind of administration has been all hat and no paddle. they have delivered almost nothing in the first 55, 60 days. >> haven't you read the executive orders in this guy has done more in 50 days than president obama has managed to do in eight years. >> jon: given that report from mike tobin about the coal industry. >> i'm not sure about that. >> jon: there are jobs. you have got to say there are jobs. >> automobile jobs. >> jon: jobs coming back. we will have to leave it there. julian epstein and brad blakeman. >> heather: how congress can end the gridlock over healthcare reform. stay with us. let's take a look at some numbers:

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>> heather: the doctor is in. with g.o.p. infighting increasing over a replacement for obamacare, as the house budget committee gears up for a vote on the plan which comes just days after a harsh

assessment by the congressional budget office on the house version of the american healthcare act, our next guest is now sharing some of his thoughts on who to end the gridlock in congress in healthcare reform. joining me now is dr. marc siegel fox news medical a team member and professor of medicine at nyu medical center. thank you for joining us. >> nice to see you, he had heather. >> heather: gone through the budget committee. take a look at some of the key plans right now. key parts, individual and employer mandates. those would be repealed immediately. subsidies would be repealed and monthly tax credits. it would preserve protections for those with preexisting conditions. young people can stay on the plan. and also calls for a transition away from the current medicaid expansion, which i know you want to talk about. but, before we get to that, let's talk about repealing the mandates. you think that's a good idea. why? >> i actually think it's courageous and not that i'm

against mandates. it depends what you are mandating. with obamacare you are mandating insurance that doesn't necessarily give you axis to what i offer in the doctor's office. premiums are very high. deductibles are very high. narrow networks of doctors available. so president trump is right when he says that obamacare is not working and patients should have access to the insurance that works for them. that makes total sense. why should we mandate that people get insurance that doesn't necessarily work, doesn't give them actual healthcare? >> heather: still there will be this 30% surcharge on people that fail to have continuous coverage. that is part of it. why are the healthcare coverage out of control. >> two reasons. essential benefit package where the government sticks its nose in and makes sure that co-pay for colonoscopy. co-pays covered for mammograms. i want the government to play its proper role which is to make sure that patients stay out of emergency rooms and make sure vaccine coverage.

antibiotic, opioid coverage is huge addiction coverage. >> that's important too. the problem now the way it is under obamacare, we are not sweden. we have many desperate people in the population. 5% of the people in america have 50% of the healthcare. that's hugely disproportionate. that's why you just saw paul ryan talk about risk pools. people that have a lot of disease very sick and using insurance a lot should be in a separate area where the government subsidizes them. >> heather: let's listen to what he has to say. top of the hour when we had speaker ryan speaking. >> remember we said we are not going to pull the rug out from under people. not going to end it tomorrow and nobody has anything it will take time for markets to stand themselves up and offer new products in the new deregulated market setting. not only are you going to be stabilizing the market in the meantime. not only going to have catastrophic double digit premiums again. bringing those down. just wait. when your reforms kick, in premiums go down.

this is before we get to phase two or phase three. >> heather: some of what he is talking about in that cbo report although the good part of it said that $337 billion in a reduction in the federal deficit over the next 10 years but it predicted that 24 million fewer people would have coverage for a decade from now if the aca stays intact. uninsured jump to 14 million after the first year a lot of those on medicaid. >> offer more choice. catastrophic options. maybe more young people will buy. in 45% right now are taking the penalty. in terms of medicaid, i want to keep the expansion. i would like to see the republicans throw that as an olive branch. that will get rid of a democratic talking point 24 million are losing their insurance. the head for medicaid and medicare services the medicaid czar she has efficiency programs that have worked in indiana, bridge to jobs programs. premium pay. more efficient. >> heather: how do you pay for it? >> pay less if it's more efficient.

1.3 million people could lose their addiction or opioid coverage if the medicaid expansion is killed. i don't see to see it killed. i think if the republicans come back and say let's keep it, let's make it more efficient, let's make it more topdown with our medicaid czar, i think they will win over some democratic votes and this thing will pass. >> heather: probably 70 million americans on medicaid as well. >> in the senate where have you 20 republican senators in 31 states that have medicaid expansion, then you will get everybody on board. >> heather: well, we have to wrap it up. i also like what have you to say healthcare insurance is not healthcare, very important. >> very important. thank you for pointing that out. >> heather: jon? >> jon: new developments to tell you about in the fight against isis. [explosion] >> jon: you are looking at iraqi troops pushing further in one the strongholds. details on their strategic gains ahead. bp engineered a fleet of 32 brand new ships

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♪ >> jon: you know what time it is. time to find out what's ahead on outbound at the top of the hour. what do you have. >> president trump slams the hawaii judge who blocked new travel ban vowing to fight it all the way to the supreme court and saying he should have stuck with first ban. what will he do now? >> the crowd at the president's nashville rally chanted lock her up last night the clinton dynasty may not be done yet. look who is ready to run next. will this be good for the democrats? >> meghan: wait for the show. all that plus our #one lucky guy outnumbered top of the hour. >> jon: i don't think you can get that in want to program. >> harris: we will get it in. >> jon: we will watch you try.

>> heather: right now iraqi forces gaining more ground in the battle to retake western mosul from isis. authorities say troops have taken control of the key bridge and advancing toward a mosque where isis once made a declaration about their caliphate. john huddy is live for us in jerusalem with more. john? >> reporter: within range of the grand morph where al baghdadi declared himself in 2014. that would be symbolic victory. they captured what's called the iron bridge this week. strategic victory as it connects eastern mosul to the old city. at this point iraqi troops are essentially trying to surround the old city and basically push in and squeeze in the remaining isis militants. but, bad weather has hampered efforts or at least it held up some efforts today. rain, wind, low clouds for those advancing troops along with mosul's complicated terrain. we are talking about very narrow streets that provide

cover and hideouts for isis fighters and also poses logistical issues for those advancing forces because of the urban, you know, street-to-street, urban combat and also getting armored vehicles and those troops into some of those very tight, congested areas. isis fighters have also been attacking those iraqi troops with any and all means possible. snipers, ieds, car bombs, suicide attacks. so it's been grueling. it's been a difficult fight. and sir series concerns remain with more than 100,000 people displaced. having said all that, iraqi commanders say they are holding their positions. they are holding their ground. they have are gaining more ground burning. in this battle is in the final stages. so we will see. heather? >> heather: that's at least partly good news. good to hear. thank you, john. >> jon: next hour of happening now. secretary of state rex tillerson saying today a different approach is needed to deal with north korea.

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>> jon: heather and i will be back with more in one hour. outnumbered starts now. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. president trump says a federal judge in hawaii just went too far with unprecedented overreach. that judge put a temporary hold nationwide on the president's new executive order on vetting people coming into this country. this as another federal judge in maryland is also blocking the ban. this is "outnumbered": here melissa francis and fbn first timer glad she is here anchor of the intelligence report trish rebegin is here, ladies and gentlemen. welcome one lucky guy. fox news contributor and nationally syndicated fox news host kevin jackson with his hot, hot, tie. look at you popping the