>> jon: heather and i will be back with more in one hour. outnumbered starts now. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. president trump says a federal judge in hawaii just went too far with unprecedented overreach. that judge put a temporary hold nationwide on the president's new executive order on vetting people coming into this country. this as another federal judge in maryland is also blocking the ban. this is "outnumbered": here melissa francis and fbn first timer glad she is here anchor of the intelligence report trish rebegin is here, ladies and gentlemen. welcome one lucky guy. fox news contributor and nationally syndicated fox news host kevin jackson with his hot, hot, tie. look at you popping the color wheel. >> what can i do? i'm here with beautiful

women. i have got to bring something. >> harris: you did. and you match the background too, that helps a lot. so good to have you. >> i'm glad to be here. >> harris: bring in the intelligence. >> good to be here. we have a great show. >> harris: two federal courts blocking president trump's revised ban restricting travel from six mostly muslim countries. a federal judge in maryland halted the executive order this morning. a federal judge in hawaii did the same thing yesterday. that judge arguing the government's revised travel ban is not about national security but instead about discrimination. his ruling said this, in part. a reasonable objective observer, enlightened by the specific historical context contemporaneous public statements and specific consequence of events leading to its issuance would conclude that the executive order was issued with a purpose to disfavor a particular religion, in spite of its stated

religiously neutral purpose, end quote. president trump tore into the decision at a rally last night. watch. >> you don't think this was done by a judge for political reasons, do you? no. this ruling makes us look weak. which, by the way, we no longer are. we're going to fight this terrible ruling. we're going to take our case as far as it needs to go, including all the way up to the supreme court. [cheers] we're going to win. we're going to keep our citizens safe. and regardless, we're going to keep our citizens safe. believe me. >> harris: well, the president didn't stop there. he said he wishes he had stuck to the first, more stringent order. >> the order he blocked was a watered down version of the first order. that was also blocked by

another judge. and should have never been blocked to start with. this new order was tailored to the dictates of the ninth circuits in my opinion, flawed ruling. and let me tell you something, i think we ought to go back to the first one and go all the way, which is what i wanted to do in the first place. >> harris: he does not mince word. noted constitutional law professor jonathan turley believes the trump administration has very strong grounds for an appeal. >> i do feel that this decision is not well-analyzed. i think that the basis is not there. the case law is not there. i think the court spends too much time on these sort of atmospherics of campaign rhetoric there is a lot of case law there supporting the president. i think the judge wrote this in a way that makes it quite vulnerable on appeal even in the ninth circuit. >> harris: all right. i stumbled on the word a

little bit contemporaneous public statements. what that means is it goes back to what the president said on the campaign trail. that's what these judges are really looking at, kevin. it's not what is in this actual ban, necessarily but whether or not those statements cloud the issue. cekev>> let's go back what the left is living on is muscle memory. they believe they have won. i think what you are seeing is the judges are sort of racking to the leftist policies that got, you know, hillary clinton not elected. and there is an old saying in the country careful is the naked man who tries to scale the barb wired fence. >> harris: that's quite an image. >> i believe trump will win this in the end because the populist view of this is this is the right thing to do. we can brush over the idea that the muslims are not causingems but this is a worldwide issue. it's not going to go away. i think most of americans believe that we do have a problem that's around islam.

now, that's not condemning the entire, you know, religion but i think many people believe this is a real problem. >> harris: you know what's interesting, trish, when you hear the president say i should go back to the first one. part of the criticism about the second eo is some of the language that the judges are hanging their hat on actually didn't change in the second executive order. >> i think he is also doing this for reasons that appeal to his base. so, in the first one, when it came to visas that people from these countries, these originally seven countries, they would be affected by, he basically made it all retroactive, right? and that became a sticking point because once the u.s. issues a visa, the thinking is okay it's good to go. you can't change that that was one of the big things he changed. i think this second version is pretty ironclad and it should do just fine. but i think there is an aspect to this where he is out there trying to get the base on board and so he is saying no, no, no. i need to go back to what we did originally because it

was stronger, it was tougher and i agree. i think a lot of americans, they will come around to this. >> harris: all right. real quickly because i want to throw this up. we have breaking news. before we get there, i want to show what trish was just talking about. that was the travel ban slightly more popular, the original travel order than the new one. that brings credence to what you were saying. >> yeah. i think part of the reason why people have gotten a little nervous in recent days is because of the backlash. and so he is going to confront that. that's what he was doing there last night head on. and so he is saying let's go back to the beginning. let's make this what it was and as you said and as this poll shows it was successful in terms of the overall appeal. >> what i like about it is he has gone back -- sorry, melissa, he has gone back to the people and making a case that look, folks, first of all, it's not a ban because the majority of muslims are still able to come into the country. so the idea that it's a religious ban is wrong. it's actually a ban of the countries that are causing us problems.

>> melissa: if you actually look at the numbers we have on the screen of the most recent travel ban people did disprove of it 54%. going in the wrong direction. >> harris: excuse me i'm going to step in here. take that live picture full if we can you see house speaker live there with what looked like a glass of begin necessary. this is the friends of ireland luncheon. is he only set to speak for a couple of minutes. then we are going to see president trump and then vice president pence and the prime minister of ireland kinney. and the reason we are showing you this is they are set to speak so briefly the raburn reception room in the u.s. house of representatives they are welcoming him. it looks like he may talk longer. when we see the president get ready to step up, we will come right back to this. i wanted to at least acknowledge this inside of a short warning. >> come back melissa so you can complete your thought. >thought. >> melissa: our latest fox news poll showed of the folks that they asked 54%

actually did disapprove of the revised ban. i don't know about getting hung up on the idea of this being a muslim ban and this is the second judge that's come out and like you said the language didn't change, then why aren't we targeting countries like saudi arabia. if it was really religion meg countries broken downstate. >> meghan: all about messaging. donald trump the onus is on him and his administration to prove this is about national security and not about discrimination. at the beginning of the show you brought up muslim countries and people who worship in islam. i think there is complete and utter misunderstanding of what this is and what the are. mayor giuliani go back on tv and say it's a muslim ban. i think the rollout was so choppy in the beginning that they need to do a lot of pick-up work in the meantime to show the american public this is really about keeping us safe. >> harris: that's an interesting point because you look at the numbers that you just brought forth of people how they feel about it on one hand. if you compare the two bans they prefer the first one

first. i mean i guess because there is not thatch difference to them. >> i don't know what the difference. >> melissa: the pr. that's a great observation. how they are questioning. >> people are more upset about the fact that he backed down. they prefer -- do you know what i'm saying? >> harris: i do want to bring up something though, trish. the president said the urgency of this will to do with national security. you heard this judge in hawaii and, you know, maybe the judge in maryland would make the same argument, since it seems to be effective for them right now as it's halted. it wasn't about national security. what do they think this is about? >> what do they know? what do they know? the president is privy to a whole lot more national security information than a judge in hawaii. or a judge in maryland or a judge originalfully washington? and, the ninth circuit? so, in other words, our president, the president of the united states is having regular intelligence meetings with officials who are telling him something his job, his entire job is

to keep this country safe. so if the president of the united states feels for whatever reason these six countries cannot control their populations, he needs to react and do whatever he thinks is best. >> harris: and they have. i mean, if you look at what is happening in yemen and somalia, they have failed government issues in those countries. do you know what i did this morning? i printed off the second eo just because i had read it when it first came out but i wanted to get the wording. executive order protecting the nation from foreign terrorist entry into the united states. and then it starts by the authority vested in me as president by the constitution and the laws of the united states of america, including the immigration and nationality act, and it gives the number of that act. so, as you say, this is not like he went and he penned a second order just because he could. i mean, he knows that it's going to be challenged. it's acknowledged in the first, you know, any time a president puts these words in something. he know he is it's going to be challenged. but it's within his purview to do so. >> sure. i think there probably is

something that allows him to make a complete national security issue and overrule the judges. but i think that. >> harris: why don't they give deference to that? you don't hear them even mentioning it? >> who can speak to the mind of leftism, what i would say and i certainly don't wish this on anybody. trump has had a enact for getting things happening at the time he needs it to happen. go back and look at the campaign and things that occurred. i would hate that a terrorist attack would occur in the united states. don't be surprised if something like that does occur to sort of reinforce what he has been talking about. >> harris: let's go back to the friends of ireland luncheon now live on the house. the president is getting ready to step up to the lecturn. you are looking right now at speaker paul ryan. he picked up his glass of guiness for a second time. people this is saint patrick's week as you know. and the president of the united states is hosting the prime minister of ireland and others in this room. let's watch and listen to his remarks together.

[applause] [applause] >> thank you very much, speaker ryan. a wonderful toast. although i have heard better jokes. [laughter] and thank you to all of our friends and distinguished members of congress for joining us here today. great honor. and a really great honor to be with you, vice president pence. have you been terrific. [applause] and all of our friends welcoming t shook. that's my new friend. great guy. and thieola.

we sat and talked and we are friends now, too right? and it's really an honor. thank you, thank you. [applause] thanks. appreciate it. also the delegates members, very, very special. why spent some time together and we are going to have a very, very great long-term relationship as we would with ireland anyway. but this is a very special group. so i very much appreciate it. we're here today to celebrate america's commitment to ireland and the tremendous contributions, and i know it well, the irish immigrants and their descendents have made right here in the united states and throughout the world. the very first saint patrick's day parade, i spent a lot of time at saint patrick's days parades over the years was held in my

hometown in new york city on march 17th, 1762. with each subsequent year, the irish people marched, passed another accomplishment, and celebrated another very hard earned success. and they have had tremendous success all over the world but in this country they have had tremendous success. over the years they marched past the beautiful saint patrick's cathedral now immorality monument to the faith of irish catholics in america. they celebrated their shared success in american society, with the election of john f. kennedy. [applause] they fought for america in war and combat and their battlefield courage has earned admiration and acclaim throughout the world. they have great courage. the proud tradition that

started in 1762 has flourished and is now celebrated by americans of all faiths and background all across our very beautiful and very special land. as we stand together with our irish friends, i'm reminded of that proverb and this is a good one. this is one i like. i have heard it for many, many years and i love it: always remember to forget the friends that proved untrue. but never forget to remember those that have stuck by you. we know that politically speaking. [laughter] a lot of us know that. we know it well. it's a great phrase. the people of ireland and the people of the united states have stuck together through good times and bad times over many centuries we have built a bond that

thrives, inspires and endures and with us it's going to be closer than ever before. i can tell you that. [applause] so as we celebrate our shared history, and our enduring friendship, let us commit ourselves to working together as we will to build on that bond to the benefit of our citizens for many more generations to come. thank you, god bless you, and may god always bless our deep and lasting friendship and relationship. we love ireland and we love the people of ireland. thank you very much for being here. [applause] >> harris: the president hosting today at the raburn reception room the united states house of representatives hall there, the country of ireland and its leadership.

and he actually went on to talk about how the first saint patrick's day in his hometown of course new york, march 17th, 1762 gave us a bit of history there. the house speaker is there too, the prime minister of ireland getting ready to speak. this is the friends of ireland luncheon that we are bringing you live so you can see parties of that he did get political for just a second with the proverb he said always remember the friends who proved untrue but never forget to remember those who stuck by you. so that was kind of an interesting little nugget from the president. president trump is laying out his america first budget proposal. it calls for domestic cuts to finance. a big boost in military spending and cover a down payment on the border wall whether he is sticking to his campaign promises and what his plan says about his governing philosophy. and we're going to pop-up online for the very first time with trish regan.

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>> fox news alert. president trump delivering blueprint to congress and how he thinks washington should be run. calling for massive cuts to domestic spending by slashing funding to the e.p.a., the arts, and medical research. these cuts are to fund a big increase in military spending and to make a down payment on the border wall. chief white house correspondent john roberts is live at the white house. hi, john. >> megan, good afternoon to you. according to the omb director this is about hard power not soft power that's why we see increase in spending at the n. defense spendings in the department of defense and couple of other areas as well. the department of homeland security gets an increase of $3 billion. the department of veterans affairs gets an increase of $4 billion. but there are commensurate cuts across the rest of the discretionary budget including the state department gets whacked for 28%, e.p.a. 31% reduction and then there is a reduction of 17% in health

and human services. there is budget for the border wall. $1.5 billi construction this year. 2.6 billion earmarked for 2018. and then there is those cuts in the state department as well as e.p.a. and the department of health and human services. by the way, 3200 people at the e.p.a. may lose their jobs. the omb director mick mulvaney told us yesterday basically what he did was go through all the president's speeches and put together a budget that reflects all of the budget priorities that the president talked about. here is the omb director. >> you had an american first candidate. have you american first president and now american first budget. more money to enforce the laws, more money to secure the borders. more money to take care of our vets. more money for school choice and less money for things like foreign aid. that's exactly what the president said he was going to do. that's what the budget is. >> reporter: this thing could run into a bring wall like some republicans in congress. some think the cuts are too severe, happening too

quickly and a lot could change between now and the time that the budget is finally passed by congress. listen to how the speaker of the house paul ryan put it just a short time ago. >> when a president submits a budget, that is the beginning of the budget process. then it goes to the budget committees. then it goes to the appropriations committees and we will a full hearing about how priorities will be met. but do i think we can cut spending and get waste out of government? absolutely. where and how and what numbers? that's something we will be figuring out as time goes on this. is just the very beginning of that process. >> reporter: not surprisingly democrats are up in arms over that proposal. do not like it one bit. nancy pelosi said a short time ago. >> this budget is not a statement of values that president trump has shown that he does not value the future of our children and working families. it fails to recognize that the health of america, the strength of america does not just depend on our military might. >> jon: there are some things, megan that

conservatives will like about this budget. they like the fact it increases defense spending and cut the foreign aid budget. what they will not like is the fact that while it does not increase the deficit, the deficit for next year will still be in the neighborhood of a half a trillion dollars. but, really, there is nothing much you can do about that until you start to reform entitlements and there is nothing in this budget that goes one inch towards that. that's probably for future years as many other administrations have done, meghan they will likely kick that can down the road a little further. >> meghan: thank you so much, john. stay warm. i want to go to you first, trish. i'm a person who votes number one first and foremost national security and the military. so the fact that he is adding budgets to the homeland security, defense spending, and the v.a., the v.a. in particular is music to my ears. t. if you care about the environment mental protection agency the budget being cut 31%. pa maybe not your favorite day today. what do you make of that. >> trish: i'm with you. i'm a hawk as well. security you can never have quite enough of that this is

good he is adding to the pentagon's budget. look, i actually have a background in classical music, i studied opera. i look at the national endowment for the arts. in some ways you think i would have mixed feelings about that but no, meghan. there are certain things that are electives, unfortunately the arts are part of that if you want to support the arts, go out and support it i will buy a ticket to the opera. i don't think as a taxpayer anybody else should have to support that. so there are pockets here where we can be very aggressive. the arts is one. e.p.a., unfortunately, the e.p.a. rather than, you know, adding to our economic growth drew all of its regulation has really pushed some of that growth to the background. and so i think you can get rid of certain things here and be strategic. we need to think about what matters to our future. and right now it's security. >> harris: it's interesting when you hear the democrats, you know, kind of skirting the issue of a showdown, a shutdown, shut down the

government over. this which person among the democratic party that was paying attention didn't know that this is where the president was going to go? >> trish: i know. >> harris: if their only argument in far in after the election we are going to shut down the government, how does that make them taking the high road as hillary clinton said that everybody should be on in her party, how does that make that palatable for them? don't they have any other options? >> meghan: the v.a. is so important. he ran on this. do you remember donald trump had a special event during one of the debates poor our veterans. >> kevin: of course. >> meghan: the v.a. scandal has been historically one of the most embarrassing and dark moments in our history and the fact that he has committed with money to fixing it. i think americans should be applauding this. >> kevin: americans, let me tell you the joker couldn't have a bigger smile that's on my face. and i think i speak for a lot of americans. i'm happier than the hippy who made it through customs. this is an amazing budget. it goes right down the line with everything.

[laughter] >> kevin: goes right down the line with everything that donald trump says. you know what? i think it was a little bit of a gotcha to your point, trish. that he went after some of these things that were really rounding errors in terms of the budget. they were more is emblematic. >> harris: do you think democrats will try to shut the government down over this. >> i wouldn't be surprised. >> harris: unpopular if they do that. >> melissa: before they start crying i went back and pulled the numbers how much these agencies grew under the obama administration. before we cry about health and human services lose 17%. they expanded almost 40% under president obama. they are still way ahead. the state department down 28%. well, guess what? also expanded 37.4% under president obama. >> trish: other side of that is military spending cut. >> harris: i'm organizing a girl's weekend in vegas trish regan sing opera.

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compare anything to because obamacare won't be around for a year or two. it's gone. >> harris: trump in tennessee last night selling the republican plan to replace obamacare. senate minority leader chuck schumer disagrees that obamacare is failing. but says he is willing to work with the president to fix it but only if the g.o.p. scraps the replacement effort. >> once president trump and speaker ryan, leader mcconnell say they're no longer going to repeal, of course we want to make aca better and we will work with them to improve it. but if you repeal it, you can't do it. have you nothing. and they're having great deal of trouble, quote, replacing it. >> melissa: in the meantime questions remain on whether there will be enough support, even from republicans to get the repeal plan passed. house speaker paul ryan says he will get the votes if needed and he dismissed concerns just minutes ago. listen. >> this president is getting deeply involved. he is helping bridge gaps in

our conference. he is a constructive force to help us get to a resolution so that we get consensus on how to repeal and replace obamacare. it's been very helpful. so we are working hand in glove, listening to the concerns of our members. as you know, now that we have our score, we can start making improvements and refinements. >> melissa: the healthcare bill clearing a big hurdle in the house. the budget committee voted in favor of moving it forward despite two republicans voting against it. so, kevin, i have talked to a number of democrats over the past couple days who want to stick with obamacare. and when i asked them how do you deal with the fact that the health insurance companies are leaving and it that there is either one or no choices, they say the answer is simple, premiums have to go up and you pay for that with more subsidies. so more taxpayer dollars, working people transfer money from working people to healthcare companies. and they are not even embarrassed to give me that answer. i have got than answer straight up from so many

democrats. it's amazing to me. what do you think? >> kevin: well, as i said earlier, i think the democrats are still under the delusion that they won. and they are not used to somebody who is really willing to attack this thing head on, not worry about the brings or as they say in d.c. the optics of this and that's donald trump. so i think they are going to be in for a very rude awakening as to how this goes. i also believe this is true of the republicans. i think paul ryan and these guys are going to find out that donald trump's not going to take any prisoners when it comes to this. a lot of the constructionism that occurs in washington are things that donald trump as a businessman works around. as a former management consultant, i will tell you he sees all these nos and obstacles look, this is lint on my suit. is he going to be brushing these things off. i think politically it's going to be hoot button your for while. nobody liked obamacare. i shouldn't say that the majority of people were not for obamacare in the beginning. i don't believe there was this overwhelming thing for it now it's just a sell of

can we make people believe that they still love this thing. nobody really loved it from the beginning. >> melissa: megan, going to the g.o.p. plan. do you think they have the votes? what's going to happen? it's going to be a very tough negotiation. >> meghan: i look forward to seeing the art of the deal. if you can get rand paul and the so-called establishment on the same page then he deserves a medal and he 100 percent proved himself to be the capable president that he was elected to be. >> melissa: but have you doubt though? >> meghan: it's not on president trump's fault. i think the freedom calculation is willing to -- cai think sit on ideological replace and repeal in order to have ideological pure is i intact instead of doing what's good not only for the republican party but what's good for the country as well. i would like these people to started working together i think president trump deserves to have the republican party work together. and if they do him this

disservice by not coming together, not compromising on this one way or another, it will have ramifications throughout the entire republican party especially in the midterm election he is. >> trish: megan, don't you think you run the risk if you are not one of those republicans get on board here of having your voters very upset because effective li, you know, this is one or the other. you're just voting for more obamacare. >> i think their ideological purity may be more important for them than what's good for the country. i'm concerned right now. i really am. i don't think paul ryan has done a great job with his messaging as we have discussed at length on the couch. i think we have to come together and make this work. i think president trump is the person to come together and make this work. some of these politicians have got to understand repeal and replace we have ran on for the past six years. if we blow this. they will have no more faith in the republican party. >> harris: i would quickly say this about the president and echos what i have been saying all along, he is the only one with enough

political mojo at this point to cover everybody. if he should want to push through those things he promised on the campaign trail, he has got to stand up and do that. i fully expect him to. we are watching the sausage be made. he is the guy in the room right now who can get it done. >> melissa: we will see. president trump is defending his claims that he was wiretapped. he says the word wiretap was in quotes, my goodness. and that he meant all kinds of surveillance. whether we will ever see any evidence coming up. ♪

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find some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks. >> harris: meanwhile, leaders of the house intelligence committee say they have not seen any evidence supporting the president's allegations. they are seeking more information from the justice department as well as from the fbi director james comey. meanwhile, here's what house speaker paul ryan said just today about those wiretapping claims. >> the point is the intelligence committees continuing ongoing investigation of all things russia got to the bottom at least so far with respect to our intelligence community that know noe such wiretapping existed. >> do you believe the president when he said he was wiretapped? when he said he was -- when he says that president obama ordered wiretap of trump tower? do you believe that? >> no, that's what i said. we have cleared that up. we have seen no evidence of that. >> harris: oh, so he cleared it up. [laughter] wow, but it is interesting. you talk about the quotations that you and i were just mentioning this.

i want to get your thoughts on that. also this idea that wiretapping the way that the president understood it could be a whole host of electronic gathering. technically though, it's a very specific legal thing. >> melissa: no, absolutely. i hear what you are saying. at the same time i think at any given point in time there is one topic that he has a certain group off chasing and totally distracted with. i call them the shiny object. it's whether it's a tweet or whatever. i think it's brilliant marketing. i think he does this on purpose. i mean, if you look back in time at any one particular time there is this off-the-wall sort of story that a good portion of the media is chasing. >> harris: intentional. what does that deflect from? >> meghan: jeff sessions. >> melissa: on that day deflecting from jeff sessions and whatever normal business is going on. >> harris: obamacare? >> >> kevin: i agree with you that he does that. i agree with you that he does that i disagree that's what this was. i think when this came up he

had already been spied on. his conversations with the mexican president. >> harris: we knew those conversations they were leaks. >> kevin: for him it was this little tepid response to it. when it sunk in wait a minute, my private conversations are being monitored and i don't know what i'm going to be negotiating next. i think the serious nature of what happened kicked in. and i think that at that point trump said we got to get to the bottom of it. and then it became well, let's look at all the evidence. the evidence that paul ryan dismisses are things like what happened with the journalist and others other spying that the nsa has been doing on american regular citizens. when you put all that into context, trump is going, hey, this is beyond the pale. >> harris: you know, trish, what this speaks to is that deeper issue of leaks. i'm not sure who among us wouldn't want to get to the bottom of that because that's about national security. >> trish: right. >> harris: we know a whole host that we wouldn't know because of those leaks. >> trish: obama changed the rules right before he left

office so information could be shared and theoretically leaked right around the time that trump came. in i spoke to the head of the nsa keith alexander. donald trump did see something. he saw something that caused him to react. he thought perhaps he misinterpreted it, which could get to the wiretapping issue, maybe not being exactly wiretapping, but there was something that he saw that bothered him significantly enough. >> harris: so the president's response, if you have been watching to that is that well, i'm not going to go into detail and i'm pair phrasing him now because i don't want to basically stab at the efficacies of the agencies that are looking at this. they have to be affected. if you undercut that by saying what he saw, that's a problem. >> kevin: two things there, harris, first of all your point. second point is does he really know what to say? he has run pretty loose. >> harris: to be protective and be informational. that's an excellent question. >> kevin: not get himself in a pickle. part of this is he is being baited. tell us what it is and then

suddenly he is in violation of some sort of act. >> harris: endanger or compromise one of those agencies. that's such an excellent question. call him. all right. we will move on. another public figure frequently taking to twitter. former first daughter chelsea clinton now fueling speculation of a political run. meghan mccain is already here. do voters want more much the clintons. meghan? do they? have you to wait for the commercial break. we'll be right back. ♪ you don't let anything keep you sidelined.

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♪ >> meghan: rumors swirling that chelsea clinton may be considering a run for political office. the "new york post" reported in november that the former first daughter could possibly replace 79-year-old new york congresswoman nita louie of new york. different report said clinton could potentially take kristin gillibrand's seat if she runs for president in 2020. yesterday the hill adding quote clinton has only stoked the rumor further particularly on twitter where she has gone after president trump and associates since inauguration day. critics caution the timing may not be right for chelsea personally. it may be time for fresh democratic faces and this familiar scene just happened last night at the president's nashville rally raising questions about how voters might feel about another clinton in office.

[chanting lock her up] >> meghan: oh my god. okay. what fresh hell am i living in where i'm going to have to sit through chelsea clinton running for offers? what do i have to do to make a clinton stop running for office? we don't like you. she has attempted to grow a personality on twitter since the election. could have gone for good use when her mother was running for president. only in loss are you going to get some attitude afterwards. i never had that problem. [laughter] >> kevin: look, chelsea clinton was raised by a single mom in the ghetto. she went to community college and then she worked her way up where -- she was on another tv station for a long time. doesn't she deserve it? oh, wait, i'm thinking about this black chick i knew. >> harris: wow.

>> meghan: raises a question about new fresh blood in the democratic party and if the clintons are going to keep this hold on power. >> harris: so much material here. oh, kevin jackson, that was interesting. but the reality of it is, yeah, the privilege gets in the way. the magazine covers, the so on and so forth. >> kevin: come on. >> harris: normally you want to improve silence when you speak. what is she stepping up to the plate to add to the political conversation. >> kevin: nothing. >> harris: after a dad in office 8 years as president. a mom who was a new york senator for equally as many, ran unsuccessfully more than once for the white house. what is the additive that chelsea clinton brings? because that's what makes you successful. if all there is to break the silence like we haven't heard from a clinton in a while, that's politically defunct. >> kevin: run as much as her mom did as a senator which is exactly nothing. >> harris: i'm curious to know what will she run on? what is the additive? >> meghan: i can't sit here and be a hypocrite if your parents are famous politicians you can't have a career that's fine. the media gives this grown woman with two children a

pass every step of the way. i have never seen her give a legitimate interview where i thought i gained anything new about her or her family. she has been given free pass her entire career and life. if he does end up running for some office one way or another. are they going to treat her the same way or ask her real questions. >> harris: they will not ask her real questions. can you speak to the fact just because daughter of two politicians does that necessarily mean she has that skill? does she have that acura men? she hasn't been outspoken. she hasn't been charismatic on the trail. it takes a lot to be a politician, right? >> harris: it also take as message. we saw her mother struggle with that for the presidential campaign. what was the message? >> trish: we all have strengths and weaknesses in life, right? part of being successful is recognizing where those are. her strength is not being a politician, nor, frankly, actuals her mother's strength. her father is outstanding. he connects with people. >> harris: right. >> trish: voters love him had hillary clinton been a

stronger candidate, she might have won. but she was very weak and unfortunately for chelsea clinton she lacks that style that you need in politics. >> kevin: people are sick of the clintons period. prove that my prediction she loses. >> meghan: oh really? yeah. way to go and take that one to vegas, kevin. okay. more outnumbered in just a moment. ♪

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