on the 5. have a great weekend. guess who is next? tucker carlson. monday. and tucker carlson is next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to tucker carlson tonight. president trump's new budget includes a proposal to eliminate $148 million in federal funding for the national endowment for the arts. the n.e.a. along with hundreds of millions more for other arts and entertainment programs including pba and npr. the notion artists won't get millions in taxpayer cash has many he irate. -- many irate. an old friend of mine joins us now. robin, great to see you tonight. >> an old young friend of yours. >> tucker: i dais greed with you for many years and continue to

disagree with you on it now. the that's for rich liberal elites. that's who consumes the products they produce. why should a time of budget deficits, taxpayers should subsidize entertainment for rich people? >> it really stumps me you would think the n.e.a. subsidizes programs for the rich and elite. you're so smart and sculpted and global, tucker. you know the ns. e.a. has grants -- n.e.a. has granted to every congressional district in the united states. i know you know for every dollar the n.e.a. puts into a community $10 comes back. so even if you don't believe in the arts, which i know you do, i know that you believe in the right to bear arts which is a campaign that was initiated by our president -- well, the creative coalition president, tim daly, to ensure every citizen has that right to bear

arts. but -- . >> tucker: but i'm confused. i love that name, the right to bear arts. as long as i can put arts in a holster, i'm totally for it but we live in a time when there's more rich people than any time in world history. so just for example, jeff bezos, mark zuckerberg and warren buffett together have more than $200 billion. n.e.a. gets what? $150 million a year? this is funded like that. >> n.e.a. gets zero, zero, zero. 000.4%. that's 1,000th of a percent of the federal budget and it brings in 10 times that amount. let's forget about the arts. let's forget the arts is what keeps america great. let's look at economic development. i mean, i would assume you're for economic development, tucker? uck tuck come on! come on! i mean, look, there are lots of ways to fund economic development but you can't tell me this is the most efficient way. more to the point, i don't understand why if rich people in this country like the

arts -- and they do and i'm glad they do -- you're telling me -- >> you're telling me middle-class people don't like the parts and the arts don't serve middle-class and the military? >> tucker: there are people that like art that aren't rich. i'll concede that my only point is when you have people running around with fortunes of $40-$60 billion, why not ask them to pay for public art? why should middle-class and poor taxpayers pay for it? i don't get it. >> why is it mutually exclusive? why wouldn't our government? our great nation invest in something that brings back $10 for every $1 invested? that helps the military? that makes sure underserved populations get to college? that makes for a better work force? i mean, we have all of the data. and it absolutely stumps me as to why anyone would be against such a small investment that brings back such a big return. >> tucker: if it's such an

investment, we should spend trillions of dollars on it. what role did the n.e.a. play in say the battle of fallujah? >> let's look at the n.e.a. in what role it plays. let's look at what role it plays. let's look at what role the n.e.a. plays in making america great. are we for, you're on one team and i'm on another team, are we both for economic development in this country? yeah, i'd say so. >> tucker: yes. iare we both here to -- are we trying to make sure that the next generation is a leading generation? you have kids. i have kids. do we want them to be complete and full citizens working to their maximum potential? >> tucker: uh-huh. >> i'm on the blue team. i do. >> tucker: i agree with you. we also don't want our kids to be addicted to heroin which is the single most common death for people in 30 states. why not take that money and fund drug rehabilitation programs. >> perfect. perfect. perfect.

n.e.a. grants do fund programs that keep kids away from drugs. away from the streets. that's what is so perfect. >> tucker: they're not working that well in kentucky that much right now. why would an artist want to take government money. i'm a journalist. i wouldn't want to take government money or else i'd be a puppet of the state producing propaganda. journalists are supposed to be independent-minded. why in the world would they want to be pawns of government? basically dmv workers with shabby efforts? what's that about? >> my hope is the integrity of the national endowment of the arts stays and that it's not shackled upon an artist but rather gives an artist seed money to create work and to create programs to not only enrich the lives of others and their community but to make money. but what i want -- . >> tucker: is that the purpose of art? to make money? isn't that an oxymoron?

>> it's to make a rich and cultured population. if you're all about making money and economic development, that's what is so great. the arts could do that, too. >> tucker: i didn't know what a great money-making scheme it was. i should have become an artist. >> we need you to become part of the right to bear arts. >> tucker: that's funny that artist that has are against the grain and thinking for themselves, all of a sudden they're queuing up for handouts for taxpayers. never been a national referendum on this! the average person doesn't know what his money's going to. why wouldn't artists strike out on their own and be independent like they're supposed to. they're artists! >> n.e.a. grant's are designed to be -- grants are designed to be seed money, to grow the artist. to grow whatever product that art sift creating to better help society. i do want you to understand this why wouldn't we want to invest in something, the arts, that we know makes us a first-world power? that's what is so great to me.

>> tucker: depends what you're talking about art. are with you talking about dogs playing poke in greenwood. if it's crucifixions in urine, not for it. >> come on! your brain -- what do you think that arts in the community, whether it's helping wounded warriors or -- whether it's medical treatment -- i mean, that's what is so great about the arts. the arts is the love the every man issue. and i'm so happy and you're an artist. >> tucker: robin, we're out of time but in art, we say good night. thanks a lot. on this show we do our best to expose fake scandals covered by the press or a lot of them. tons of reporters including many white house correspondents try to push conspiracies rather than ask about the real issues. they don't like it when other reporters enter their safe space. one reporter dissidents in the white house briefing room are bullied for not reverting to a certain line. kaitlyn collins is a white house

correspondent and she's new to the beat and joins us now. kaitlyn, thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: there was this amazing moment in january. sean spicer, the new secretary, asked a question to the reporter to the new york post. all of a sudden there was this uproar on twitter, reporters that weren't born when barack obama was elected were complaining about the breech of tradition. why the precedent? >> the press is having a royal tan drum -- tantrum. they can't control what the country is talking about. for the last eight years, they asked the same questions. now that they're not being called on they can't control what the use this is about. it's driving them -- what the news is about. it's driving them crazy. >> tucker: you showed up after the inauguration. you never covered the white house before. you don't work at the "boston globe" or "new york times". what kind of reception did you get? >> it's tense. i'm not there to -- i ask what my readers want me to ask.

outside in the real world where the other 300 million people live, they don't care about personnel issues that msnbc is asking. >> tucker: you took heat from other reporters you at a press conference at the moment when mike flynn was having all of his troubles, national security adviser, you asked a question to the podium about what the foreign policy challenges facing this country are. and what was the response to that? >> it was very ate heated. i -- it was very heated. i got a lot of criticism on twitter. i asked a big-picture question about national security and who we're going to get into a war with next and that matters more to real people than a personnel question of who is working in the white house. no one will remember mike flynn's name by next year. >> tucker: i think that's totally fair. you're obviously pretty immuned to the criticism of your peers. what affect does that group thing have, that forced conformity have on other reporters there? >> not a good mix of that. other people feel pressured to ask what others are asking.

they look up to someone on their left. they're asking about wiretapping. they ask about wiretapping as well. but the point of 75 reporters being in that briefing room is we all ask different questions. if we all go in there and ask the same question 10 different ways, what's that accomplish? who's that serve? >> tucker: the president attacked the press intensely like no other president has gone after the press like this. what's that do to the reporters covering the briefing every day? >> people are hysterical about his criticism. yes, he hates the press. yes, he's vocal about it. what president hasn't hated the press? we make their lives harder. they all hate us. they all may not talk about it. but they definitely hate us. people are taking it really personally. you shouldn't take the president's criticism personally. shouldn't affect your reporting. you can tell when you read the "new york times" and cnn, it affects their reporting. that's not what should happen. i don't take my cues from the president. i report on him, i don't report to him. >> tucker: you think there's a personal element to this? >> definitely. >> tucker: they don't like that he criticized. >> he calls them out by their

names. they don't like that. they get heat on twitter. makes him recent him for who he is as a person. that's not your job. your job is not to get your feelings hurt. >> tucker: that's exactly right. twitter seems to play a huge role in the attitudes of white house reporters. >> it feeds their egos. they want to know who is following them and who is praising them. you shouldn't pay attention to anything that people say on twitter. >> tucker: do you see people checking twitter? >> constantly. the president uses twitter a lot. it's a new medium everyone is fascinated with donald trump income the white house. >> tucker: boy, i'm or is revement i don't like the president and reporters using twitter. think that's weird. i guess i'm not in charge. kaitlyn collins thank you for joining us of the daily caller, a new reporter. remember donna brazil? last fall, dnc e-mails published

by wikileaks published while brazil working as a television contributor helped rig the democratic primary by forwarding debate questions to the hillary clinton campaign. now at the time, brazil refused to admit her complicity. she suggests the e-mails were furged in a famous back-and-forth with megyn kelly you may remember. today with an essay for the "l.a. times", she admitted she's guilty. doesn't mean she's taking full responsibility. in her essay, she says the leaked questions weren't such a big deal and the real scandal is that russian hackers, of course, could sway the election by exposing a perfectly innocent action. some people are just never guilty apparently. well, up next, writer says donald trump needs to ditch paul ryan's health care plan or he'll irreversibly ruin his own presidency before spring turns to summer. also, we'll update you on hypocrisy at nbc news for yet another night. we have a new name to add to the list of those complicity in the

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>> tucker: president trump has embraced house speaker paul ryan's proposal to replace obamacare. one writer says the plan is catastrophically bad and if trump keeps following it he'll destroy his own career for good. in a recent piece, he wrote the american health care act would particularly hurt lower and middle-class people, the very voting block that handed donald trump the presidency, meanwhile, it'll help the wealthy by cutting their taxes.

trump ought to reject the bill post-haste, he says. thank you for coming on. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: you said there's a broad gulf between what trump ran on and the ideological agenda of the republican leadership in the congress? is that kind of where it starts? >> i'm going to tell you a secret, tucker, there were a lot of republicans, paul ryan included, who didn't want donald trump to win. it'll be shocking news to you. why is that? it's because donald trump challenged many of the core beliefs of folks like paul ryan on issues like immigration, of course, on national security but also on the safety net. donald trump said i'm going to defend the safety net for ordinary americans, not because i believe in big government but because nationalism isn't just divisiveness. nationalism is also saying we're all in this together and we're going to look out for the weakest among us. that was a compelling message. >> tucker: that is so undercovered. the access hollywood tape, his views on the wall. those took up all the ink but his economic program was basically ignored as was the gap

between his beliefs and those of the reagan protege still running the republican caucus. >> you have to wonder, why is it that donald trump who said a lot of controversial things, why is it that he won the votes of almost 30% of latinos? that surprised a lot of people. why is it that won the votes of a lot of lower and middle-class and work class folks who never would have dreamed of voting for a republican before? that's because he was a different kind of republican. donald trump isn't perfect but one thing he definitely got right is there's a big audience for that "we're in this together" policy. >> tucker: yes, the health care bill doesn't reflect that? >> it doesn't. even in this interview with you, earlier this week, you can tell donald trump knows that. he's saying that, look, i'm going to want to protect our people, but the problem is that this bill as it stands right now here's what it does, i might believe, you might believe medicaid is a program that's flawed, i absolutely believe that, but you're going to cut 880 billion dollars in medicaid

funding and you're going to cut taxes for rich people by 880 billion? it's one thing to say we're going to fix this program to make it more sustainable to make sure it serves people and what have you, but if in the same legislation you're also eliminating taxes for mostly rich folks by exactly that same amount that doesn't send a good signal. you need to win people's trust. and that's what donald trump needs to do if he's going to build on his distinctive national agenda. >> tucker: so a lot of people i know assumes this won't get the through the senate. it won't become law and won't reach his desk. let's assume that's true. even if that's not true, what does the president need to do with this bill? >> look, we need to start over again and go back to the drawing board to make sure we have a program that's going to win broad support and that's going to be sure that vulnerable folks aren't harmed first. >> tucker: and if he doesn't do that? >> if he doesn't do that, he's going to be in trouble. here's the thing, again, trust

matters a whole heck of a plot to politics. there were a lot of people who rat recalled -- rattled by donald trump. they thought he was erratic here and there fundamentally in their gut, he thought they were on his side. they trusted him. how do you establish trust? the way you establish trust is with the first action you take. if the first action you take is cutting medicaid while cutting taxes for the rich, who's going to believe you when you say, hey i want to be sure that everyone's taken care of -- and you're right, i might want to cut taxes but that's not my first and highest priority. my first and highest priority is protecting vulnerable americans. >> tucker: we're almost out of time, but the how did this happen? >> you know, i think partly it's because donald trump had a vision and it's a vision that won him the presidency but he doesn't have a lot of people around him who fully share that vision. he's got a lot of people who are basically old-school republicans the kind of people a lot of voters rejected in the republican primaries, who are the ones he's relying on. now, he's a guy who thinks for

himself, but he's also someone who needs to think harder about a disciplined plan to implement his agenda, not someone else's agenda. >> tucker: if this fails, it's going to be tough. it'll be really tough. >> definitely will. >> tucker: reihan. that was really interesting. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: there was a hearing in the senate. we'll talk to the republican who says the senator's rap is not out of line. wait until you see the tape. it's remarkable actually.

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>> tucker: yesterday we reminded you nbc news deliberately leaked the nbc hollywood tape to the "washington post" in an effort to shut down the 2016 trump campaign before the debate. andrew lack was fully aware of that effort. he lied about it later. tonight we can add another name to the list. according to the sources it appears nbc president phil griffin knew about the decision to leak the tape. we gave a shout out to griffin today for comment but we've not heard back. despite being complicity in an attempt to throw the election, griffin's news effort continues to pursue the russian hacking story which produced no evidence at all russian agents swayed the outcome of last fall's election. we'll continue to follow this story and let you know every time nbc declines to comment. we'll keep up it. senator kristen jillbrand of new york came out polltively unglued on tuesday barking at the commoneddant of the marine corps for two minutes for

blaming him for not stopping sexual harassment in the court. here is some of it. >> when you say to us, "it's got to be different," that rings hollow. i don't know what you mean when you say that. why does it have to be different? because you all of a sudden decide it has to be different? who has to be held accountable? i align myself with senator fisher's comments? who has to be held responsible? have you investigated and found guilty anybody? if we can't crack facebook, how are we supposed to confront russian aggression and cyber hacking throughout our military? it's a serious problem when we have members of our military denigrating female marines who will give their life to this country in the way they have with no response from leadership! i can tell you your answers today are unsatisfactory. they do not go far enough and i would like to know what do you intend to do for the commanders who are responsible for good

order and discipline? all of this behavior is in violation of article 120 and article 34 as so stated. they are violating the code of criminal justice. why are commanders who have asked for all responsibility to deal with sexual assault and these behaviors for the five years this committee has been focused on this issue? you have demanded you maintain control of all of these issues, but where's the accountability for failure? who is being held accountable for doing nothing since 2013? who? which commander? i'm very -- . >> tucker: she's a republican representing the state of new york. he's a veteran and joins us now. congressman, thank you very much for coming on. this seemed out of proportion for one given the crime she was talking about which is marines putting up nude pictures of women they had dated who were also marines. awful. i would never defend that. i think that's cruel. but for, i think by most accounts the least impressive

senator to scream at a man who served for 42 years as a marine officer is out of line, what do you think? >> senator jillbrand was fired up. there are different ways to approach that questioning of the marine general. i do believe that the general handled that interaction with outstanding leadership. he did not make any excuses. he took full ownership and responsibility over the entire situation. i don't know if i would have approached it the same way that senator gillibrand did. she was genuinely emotional and speaking out on behalf of those victims and wanting to see the marine corps and all branches of our military take action to ensure this doesn't continue. that goal is one i certainly agree with. >> tucker: sure, no one wants to see that kind of stuff. purpose of the marine corps is to fight and win wars. i didn't see any mention of that but i guess it's the proportion here, so general is not

responsible for putting those pictures up. there's no evidence he favors it or he's gone lightly on it, and this is clearly grandstanding! it's something she's engaged in repeatedly. anyone who has followed her career knows she's had all kinds of totally outrageous, nonsupportable things over the years on this topic. i think it's inappropriate to do that to someone like the general would you say? >> watching the entire exchange and seeing the general's handling of it, knowing who is sitting in that chair, knowing he's someone who wants there to be accountability, that he would want there to be an investigation that yields to wherever crimes could be identified for people to be prosecuted for nonjudicial punishment, for corrective training, to improve the culture of the marine corps, knowing that the general is in that chair over the course of decades of service, he's been through a whole lot the where he's not going to be rattled by any one senator's questioning for that particular exchange, i think on

both sides, senator gillibrand's comments and general neler's commands comments -- neller's comments, it sends a message. we need to find out which females -- maybe there's a picture out there where a female consented. maybe they didn't consent. maybe there was access to a particular database for posting a photo that was illegal, so it's not like there's just one particular crime that might have been committed or the stories might have been the same. >> tucker: yeah, i mean, there are a lot of things to worry about with the u.s. armed forces especially the marine corps. most are involved around their capacity to defend the united states of america. i'm not sure why congress would be involved in something like this for the first place. for the third time, not make anything defense of this, it's bad, but let's be real here. here is the real agenda. this is part of what senator gillibrand says and gets to what she's really after. watch this. >> i'm very concerned this is part of a culture that's resulting in the high levels of

sexual assault. >> tucker: ah! the old culture of the military line. here is what it's really about -- and you know this as well as i -- you're a veteran, is it many on the left, the cultural left, the frirvls cultural -- the frifllous cultural left that senator gillibrand represents hates this culture because it's war-like and masculine. is this what it's really about? >> when i first started army r.o.t.c., president clinton was hrough bush president and president obama, i served in the army reserves. i feel over the course of the years, there's been a more of a social engineering of the military. i recently had army reserve training where the entire sunday morning was spent on transgender training and what we should be focusing on most importantly for our servicemembers is ensuring they're best prepared for combat to protect and defend our country, the number one only

actually mandatory function of our federal government constitutionally is to provide for the common defense. so that should be priority number one and we need to make sure that with the new administration and with the general that our department of defense goes away from social engineering and more toward keeping americans safe primarily and only. >> tucker: yeah, you think? i mean, that's all that matters! we're in a really silly stage in american history right now. congressman, thanks a lot for all of that. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: we spend a lot of time on this show talking about day-to-day political affairs. up next, we welcome a thinker who says we're wasting our time because the looming debt crisis is going to make the red versus blue arguments irrelevant and not in a good way. plus the president had an awkward meet-up today with german chancellor angela merkel. we'll give you every awkward detail. stay tuned. and the urinary symptoms of bph.

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more contentious than they've ever been. just because the arguments are fierce doesn't mean they matter. james howard writes a popular blog whose name we can't tell you because it's a family-friendly channel but it's really smart. the two major parties are just playing a game of capture the flag in the deck of the titanic. it'll make our current policy debates seem pointless. james howard joins us now on. long-time lift neng -- listener. first-time caller. i am a fan of your blog. i'm reading recently your warnings to the country about the coming debt crisis. our politics are so crazy because it's a way of ignoring the underlying problems which are real. can you summarize your point? >> we have a basic problem with our economic dynamic. a lot of it has to do with our

energy. in the heyday of american industrialism, we got 100 barrels of oil out of the ground for every barrel equivalent we put in. and now with stuff like shale, it's more like 5 to 1. and the aggregate average is about 17 to 1 and we can't really run our industrial economy and all of its luxuries, accessories and furnishings at the that ratio. so we've been trying to compensate for that by ramping up a lot of debt. basically borrowing from the future in order to pay for the way we live now. >> tucker: and you said basically our political establishment -- i want to put on the screen a quote from you because i think it's really smart -- but our political establishment is intentionally not paying attention. halloween is coming super early, you write, it'll be a shocking. currently busy looking for russians behind every potted plant in washington, d.c. first accept the premise your country has lost its mind. that's what happens when societies and individuals can't

face the true kwan drees of a particular moment in their history. all of their attention gets channeled into fantasy, spooks, sexual freakry, conspiracies, perversion narratives, save your fairy tales. it's been quite a cavalcade of unreality the past six months from great values of the connoisseur of the bizarre until you are reminded a fate of a nation is at stake. what happens when we hit the debt wall, what's that like? >> when we hit the debt wall, we can't borrow from the future to pay for what we're doing now. we can't pay the invoices that are going to be coming into the treasury and we can't pay the entitlements we're obligated to pay and we can't pay back the interest on the previous debt. one of the problems with having ramped up all of this debt is that we now have to borrow more money to pay back the interest on the debt. and, you know, that implies that we can't really generate a whole lot of new debt because it's got

very poor prospects of ever being paid back. we took -- . >> tucker: tell me the time line here though. when is this going to happen? 100 years from now? 200 years from now? >> no, i think it'll be happening in the next few months. what happened in the fall was that the treasury built up a kind of a war chest of about $400 billion and the idea was that that would be available for hillary clinton, president hillary clinton to use to get through the debt ceiling problem. and they managed to burn through about $90 billion a month since then. and there's about -- there's less than $100 billion left in the treasury for walking around money. and it's going to run out around memorial day. the debt ceiling suspension that was negotiated between speaker john boehner and president obama a couple of years ago, that just ran out yesterday meaning the

government cannot borrow more money without new authorization from congress, and that requires the resolution of the members of congress to come to some agreement about it. there's very little prospect they're going to be able to do that. on the democrats, they really just want to use this as a liefer to make -- a lever to make president trump twist slo slowly -- to make president trump twist slowly, slowly in the wind as the old saying goes. >> tucker: yes. >> they're going to do everything they can to make him back off unless he backs off repealing obamacare or lays off of the enforcement of deportation of illegal aliens. and the republicans, of course, have their own historic aversion to raising the debt ceiling. >> tucker: right. >> they more or less have been forced to go along with it, but

there are enough of them who really have an ideological opposition to it, so that it's really not likely to get resolved. >> tucker: i guess what cracks me up is i've not read any of this on the front page of the paper this week. that proves your thesis in the first place. put james howard kunstler into google and you'll find his blog. thank you for finding us. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: diversity lags as students are matched with city schools. the article concerns new york's eight most competitive high schools whose admissions are based exclusively on a stad standardized test. "only 10% of offers were extended to black and latino students though those students make up 68% of the school system." the unspoken assumption in this piece is sinister institutional racism, perhaps even white

supremacy is keeping minorities out of good schools. only one problem, the students in new york's elite schools aren't white. they're asian. whopping 52.5% of admitted students in the city's top public schools are asian, many of them poor or children of immigrants but you would never know that from reading this piece in the "new york times." the piece never uses the word asian. not once. why? because it's dishonest. up next, 2015, president trump called german chancellor angela merkel insane for letting in muslim immigrants. today, he's got an awkward meeting with her. we'll tell you what happened in that meeting. plus, james rosen may be the most talented man at fox news, a lot more talent than i am. a friend shows off that talent, one that's got nothing do with television. this'll be great. don't miss this. >> yes.

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>> tucker: president trump met with german chancellor angela merkel today. it's friday. i'm sure you know the drill by now. after the meeting, he traveled to mar-a-lago, florida, for the weekend. kristen is in palm beach tonight pulling this assignment. hi! >> reporter: this is by far the most awkward and contentious face-to-face meeting president trump has had with another world leader. it started with this incredibly uncomfortable moment in the oval office. reporters asking him to do a handshake, handshake and president trump refusing to shake the german chancellor's hand. then during what two sources describe as a very contentious private meeting, president trump reportedly pressed hard for chancellor americale to increase her country's tricks on nato. at the beginning of their joint press -- contributions to nato. at the beginning of their joint press conference, the chancellor committed to doing just that. it was another moment that stole the spotlight.

president trump doubling down on his unsubstantiated wiretapping claim that reminding merkel and the world her phones were tapped during the obama administration. >> as far as wiretapping, i guess by, you know, this past administration, at least we have something in common perhaps. [ laughter ] and just to finish your question we said nothing. all we did was "a certain very talented legal mind who was the one responsible for saying that on television." >> reporter: now, the talented legal mind he was referring to was fox's senior judicial analystdge napolitano. he claimed that the british electronic intelligence agency helped obama wiretap then candidate trump. the fox news division can't

substantiate that claim. the british government says the claims are ridiculous and they should be ignored. today, the department of justice finally complied with the house intelligence committee's request to hand over any evidence it might have to back up the president's claims and tonight, the committee's chairman said he's satisfied with the documents but he wouldn't say if those documents contained anything that would validate the claims that president trump made exactly two weeks ago from tomorrow. tucker? >> tucker: we'll be watching. kristin fisher, thanks. time now for the friends zone. we invite one of our friends from inside the building here at fox news. tonight, we welcome fox chief washington correspondent james rosen. he's a legitimately talented man. he's an author, a comedian, a journalist, so good the obama administration hassled him in a pretty big way. he's got another big talent. he's a legitimate artist. james rosen joins us tonight. >> you're saying my skill as a legitimate reporter was i hidden

talent? >> -- was a hidden talent? >> tucker: you've done drawings for people around the building but this began -- i didn't know until tonight that you actually had a sideline as a kid at weddings and bar mitzvahs? >> that's right, $100 an hour. i began with my favorites which were snoopy and charlie brown. i'm not sure which -- you know, which one you want to see. then i moved onto doonesbury, another one of my favorites. i worshiped several different artists and slavishly copied them. i did that in broadcast journalist as well. here is a little doonesbury for you. ok? right? all right. then i moved onto batman and my idol of idols neil adams who is still around and still the greatest comic book artist of all time. >> tucker: i agree with that. >> and, um, we can do batman for you very quickly. >> tucker: doonesbury has to be

pretty easy? >> they're highly stylized and require their own sort of just depth touch if you will. >> tucker: you'd go to parties as a kid or events, bar mitzvahs and weddings and do this? you character ra -- caricatured people in the office? who is that? >> that's a caricature of brittany hums. that's from my think 2008 or thereabouts, him sort of as fdr. there's fidel castro leaving death in the dust runing away from death. frank lloyd wright action. fallen water. who else do we got? there's the earliest drawing of mine i still have which is from when i was seven and copying neil adams at the outset there. jamie rozen is what my parents called me.

there's a spielberg with some friends of his. i figured what i might do on this occasion, you have a springsteen and a tale two of madonnas. um, i figured what i would do is draw you on the air. ok, right now. >> tucker: you can do that in 90 seconds? >> let's do something very quickly then. the fact is, you're kind of a nightmare for a caricature artist because you have essential 46cal -- smet trickcal features -- symmetrical featur features. >> tucker: i don't look on the mirror very much. i don't know. ask the makeup artist. >> i will. >> tucker: i hope you will. ask debby defrank. i don't look in the mirror enough. do you do this because you like it? would you do it for free? >> i've done it professionally. i used to do weddings, bar mitzvahs and sweet 16's. mostly at this point, i'm doing it to savage my friends on plane

rides. >> tucker: you have 35 seconds to finish your assault on my appearance. >> just for old time's sake, going to put you in a bow tie. >> tucker: that's harsh! can you take 20 pounds off? pretty good. james rozen! that's amazing. >> there you go. a little bit. a little bit. >> tucker: you're good enough for six flags. we put on the screen what you could do with a finer-point pen. it's remarkable. i mean that with total sinceri sincerity. you're truly the most talented artist i know personally. >> i'm still in the friends zone? >> tucker: you've ascended to the top of the friends zone. james rozen, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: coming up next, the left is eating its own yet once more. a top figure on january's march on washington says you can't be a feminist if you don't also reject israel. her rival fem knits -- feminists including a star actress are steaming.

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>> tucker: the seasons may change. civil wars on the left always remain the same. this time the subject is feminism and it's pitting a television star against an activity. linda is an activity -- activist that cochaired the muslim march in washington this january. she said a person can't support israel and be a feminist because you "stand up for the rights of all women including palestinians or none." that's got several pro-feminist muslims irate. the left needs to reexamine the microscope they need to look at israel, for sure. comedian rowzan barr tweeted this, is it possible to be a pro-palestinian feminist? in january, she said ex-muslim feminist ian should have her genitalia taken away from her for criticizing islam. she's a victim of female

genitalia mutilation. you couldn't make that up. that's horrible. the show that's a sworn enemy of [ indiscernible ] new studio coming up. tonight, "hannity" is next. "han. >> sean: welcome to "hannity," esiden >> sean: anne coulter, david clarke, geraldo rivera, sara carter is joining us tonight. america could learn from europe's many failures. that's tonight's opening monologue. president trump and chancellor merkel capped off their first visit earlier today by holding a joint press conference. president trump made it very clear where we stand on protecting this country. watch this.