♪ >> tucker: a fox news alert, president donald trump wrapped up a rally in louisville after doing tough talk about illegal immigration. here is part of it. >> one by one, they are being cracked down and thrown the hell out of our country and we will not let them back in.d >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we will hear more from the. president in a minute. one thing you won't hear there was any t mention of fbi directr james comey testifying on capitol hill. this testimony may have dominated cable television day, but the president did not mention it. we will have more on director comey's testimony. more than five hours on capitol hill, taking questions. it was a long hearing coveredpi

breathlessly around the world. for the end of it we learned -- what did we learn? pretty much what we already knew in november. russia has a decade-long havoc of international troublemaking. russia makes up stories, it was them who dreamed up that the moon landing was faked almost 60 years ago. no one doubts their capacity for mischief. but after months of probing, there is precisely zero evidence that the russians had any effect on election outcomes. much less let russian saboteurs collaborated with donald trump or with his staff. but that doesn't mean we did not learn anything today. we did. fbi director comey is obviously selective about which investigations he is willing to talk about. he confirmed that the bureau is investigating the trump campaign , that was news. and at the same time he refused to say whether it is investigating felony leaking by government officials who destroyed general michael flynn. >> i'm just asking -- can you

assure the american people, j you've already assured them that you take it very seriously. can you assure them that it is going to be investigated? >> i can't but we seriously take classified investigations very seriously. i don't want to confirm it by saying we are investigating it. >> tucker: we also learn something about director comey's political views. asked about brexit, comey had this to say. >> would they have a preference for candidate who had a preference for brexit? would they like to see more bricksre it's? >> yes. >> tucker: how can comey possibly know what the russian leadership believed about brexit? he couldn't without clairvoyant powers. opposing the european union is the same as being a russian stooge, that would be the implication. the current state of the democratic party. what is a clinical stage after hysteria but just before total loss of motor function and unconsciousness? that is what it was like for

hours today. consider this from danny heck of washington. >> our battleships weren't sunk and our towers did not collapse in 2011. make no mistake, 2016 is a year we should mark on our calendars. it is still going on, it didn't end on election day. >> tucker: keep in mind, pearlt harbor and 9/11 pulled this country into the world altering global wars that dragged on for years. did he overstate? no, not according to his colleague. she described russian's actions as an act of war. and vladimir putin is a tarantula who ensnares hapless americans in his web. >> in terms of trying to understand this, i think of a spider web with a tarantula inta the middle. and the tarantula in my view is vladimir putin. who is entrapping many people tw

do his bidding and to engage with him. >> tucker: [laughs] never mind don't actually catch their prey in a web. putin is evil personified. the number one super villain and almost certainly our next adversary on the battlefield. texas got so worked up about this that he read the buzzfeed dossier like it was a real document. what should we make of all of this? how close are we to war with putin? member of the house intelligence committee, who is all day there at the hearings, which he w declared, we were attacked by russia. thank you for joining us. we were attacked by russia. how do we respond? let's get specific. do you think we should use long-range or short-range icbms? >> we should expand the sanctions we have and continue to investigate what they did and today we learned from the fbi director contrary to what you said, there was new information

that there are members of the trump team who are under criminal and counterintelligence investigations. >> tucker: i was aware of that. hold on, i want to take what you say seriously. i absolutely do. you said we were attacked by russia. that is not a small thing. an attack doesn't just invite a counterattack, it demands one. lc reveal your fundamental weakness and get attacked again. my question is, a carrier strike group nine is the closest right now. it should they mobilized immediately? should we notify our european allies? what is our next step in our counter attack? >> it should not be a warmer embrace of russia the president clearly said he wanted to do. this sanction should get tougher. we should expand nato's role, not contracted. we should talk tough with russia. right now, we have a secretary of state whose received an order of friendship from russia.

russia is not our friend, and not just for cold war atrocities but for what they are doing in ukraine and what they are doing in syria. >> tucker: i do not think they are a friend. i don't think anyone thinks that they are our friend. but we should talk tough in response to an act of war? i can't imagine a more irresponsible response to an act of war than talking tough. or doubling down on sanctions already in place or expanding nato. we need a realist response, don't you agree? how can we do otherwise? >> not every action requires a military response.o there are cyber warfare as you can conduct. but tucker, take a step back.ar never in the history of our elections has a country attacked us the way that russia has. it was an electronic o attack. it was not by a bomb or through a missile or bullet. they attacked us and try to influence the outcome of our campaign. o i will be the first to say they did not change any vote tallies. >> tucker: i'm taking you seriously. they attacked us and you say it does not require militaryot defense. what counterattack is really

necessary? what would that look like? what should we do to them, strengthens, nato, which are we really do? >> we can squeeze their economy. their economy is in a free fall. we should isolate russia from the rest of the world. >> tucker: will that hurt putin really badly? will he run out of vodka or move into a hotel or something? >> that's why we had a hearing today. when i go home and talk to our constituents, they want to know if we are going to do anything or if the next election will see two, three, four of our adversaries try to influence and get their preferred candidates? >> tucker: i'm speaking half and just because i think this description of an act of war is hysterical. you are a sitting congressman, one of your colleagues is a

senator -- calling it an act of war.an the russians are listening to this, i don't know how you can describe something as an act of war and recommended in response tepid moves like i don't know, o sanctions. really? >>'t there's nothing that we hae more sacred than our democracy. a free election. >> tucker: you are saying this is war and you do want to do anything about it. >> i don't want to do what you want me to do. >> tucker: let's be really specific. what should we do? i'm taking you seriously. >> should increase the work with our allies in nato sanctions against russia. so they are also not as dependent on russia for the liquid, natural gas. one of the main sources for a lot of eastern european -- russia is. >> tucker: so we shouldur ship -- you just said you want to make europe less dependent on russian energy. that sounds wise. we are the largest natural gas

producer in the world. why wouldn't we want to fast-track those ports to make it possible for american natural gas producers to sell their gas to europe? are you for that? i know the natural resource defense fund is against that. >> for helping our european allies --rc >> tucker: i'm laughing at your response. do you really believe what you are saying? you are saying we should help europe become energy independent but we should not sell them natural gas? >> of course we should. we should help others do the same. people at home, they take serious, our elections. these points belong to us. republicans and democrats can go at it back and forth, but as an outside meddler comes in, that's off limits. both parties should say we wills not tolerate it. it's an opportunity for republicans and democrats to unify and say never again will we allow ourselves to be in this mess. this is a mess.

>> tucker: as soon as you define the effects of russian meddling, hacking, warmaking, whatever you are calling it, on our election, i think you will have a chance of bringing people to your side. what was the effect exactly, and i know you have asked this many times and you cannot provide an answer. >> i can. russia sought to tear down hillary clinton and lift up donald trump. our intelligence agencies have concluded that. i believe them, do you? >> tucker: i don't know,ve sometimes. i have a right to know more about how they reach their conclusions but they sort of missed 9/11 and the fall of the soviet union so i think it's fair to be skeptical.on i'm not lacking patriotism. >> there's no counter evidence. >> tucker: you heard the fbi director today say that vladimir putin hated hillary clinton. hated her. he personally hated her. and that's what he sought to defeat her in the election. >> do you think he made that up? >> tucker: how would he know something like that? i don't know what i think about things. we don't even know ourselves. how would he know the innermostw thoughts of --

why would he allege something like that? how could he possibly know that? >> because of intelligence reporting. through electronic sources that are in the public report that the intelligence community put out. >> tucker: there is nono indication of how we could note vladimir putin's most innermost thoughts about hillary clinton. you were asking me -- >> should we trust the people who collect intelligence? >> tucker: declaring war against a sovereign country as you are attempting to do, we have a right to know on what basis you are doing that. if you are telling me you know what vladimir putin believes, i think it's fair to ask, how the hell would you know that? >> we have an electronic source and that call between michael flynn and the ambassador. >> tucker: he said today, i know that he sought her demise because he hates her personally. he said that. >> i asked for evidence, i've received it. >> tucker: on that very specific question? you were satisfied that he would

know what vladimir putin felt?ut intelligence committee. >> tucker: are you further convinced that vladimir putin believed hillary clinton would lose? >> yes, yes. >> tucker: so not only is michael flynn clairvoyant, vladimir putin is as well. he's the only one in the world... the thought hillary clinton was going to lose. >> the desired outcome was -- to undermine hillary clinton thick figure and she was going to win and go into office so badly. >> tucker: doesn't all of this undercut that theory?? the effect is to badly undercut the administration of donald trump. this weakens trump. >> if hillary clinton had won,ni would still -- want to punish the russians for what they did. >> tucker: why would he be behind a gambit like this? that winds up weakening a guy he

supposedly loves. why would he want to do that? >> he has a guy in there right now who wants to roll back sanctions. t and reverse the role of nato. putin is celebrating right now. >> tucker: if he said i believe you, congressman, i'm going after russia with long-range bombers. what would you say? >> i would say ratchet up the sanctions. isolate russia. make putin pay for this. in 2021, i don't want to be sitting with you and talking about a different country that has been attacking our elections. >> tucker: i will not take it searcy without evidence. when he declares war against russia will bring dng you on. thank you, congressman. president trump had a lot to say tonight during a rally in louisville. we go to kristin fisher who is in louisville. nice to see you. >> hey, this was quite a rally. president trump said multiple times tonight this place is packed. and it was. he started out with greatest hits, promises made and promises kept.

the biggest applause line was the night of the issue that started it all all, building a border wall. >> to be a rich nation, we must also be a safe nation.n. that's why i'm following through on my promise to secure, protect, and defend the borders of the united states. >> it that is what supporters here wanted to hear about, republicans on capitol hill wanted to hear about another campaign promise. repealing and replacing obamacare.s >> as we move toward the crucial house vote on thursday, the seventh anniversary of obamacare is very painful passage -- this is our long-awaited chance to finally get rid of obamacare. the long-awaited chance, we are going to do it. we're going to do it.

>> one of the house bills biggest critics is kentucky senator rand paul, tonight, president trump had this message for him. >> i happen to like a lot senator rand paul. i do. i do, i like him. he's good. he is a good guy.. and i look forward to working with him so we can get this bill passed in some form, so that we can pass massive tax reform. >> the key word there, pass in some form, leaving the door wide open to some big negotiations if and when that bill gets to the senate. the other big question heading into tonight is does president trump bring up the two big hearings today that happened on capitol hill? in the end, he only talked about one of them. judge neil gorsuch's hearing is

now underway in the senate. i urge members of both parties to swiftly approve his nomination. he is an outstanding man from an outstanding family with an unbelievably wonderful wife. >> president trump talked aboutl the judge gorsuch hearing but no mention tonight of the bombshell testimony from fbi director james comey confirming itt ongoing investigation on whether or not there was anyny collusion between the trump campaign and russia. tucker. >> tucker: in some form. the line of the night. >> in some form. >> tucker: fbi director comey is not the only big name to appear on the hill today. a confirmation hearing for judge neil gorsuch, a full 47 days after the president nominated him to the supreme court. a lot happened, for more in details we to trace gallagher. >> hey, several democratic senators have already vowed to oppose neil gorsuch and block

his nomination from coming to a final vote in their opening statement, they tried to tie gorsuch to president trump -- billing him as a threat to workers and women. they also made it crystal clear that they remained furious over republicans refusal to hold hearings for president obama supreme court nominee merrick garland. listen. >> the senate should -- selected by extreme interest groups and nominated by a president who wants the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes. >> during their 10 minutes of opening statements, republican senators applauded neil gorsuchg calling him an extraordinarily talented with the highest levels of professional qualification, including integrity, competence, and temperament. they left out patient but that was evident by the three hours gorsuch waited to speak on his own behalf. here he is. >> i have ruled for disabled students, prisoners, the accused.

for workers alleging civil rights. undocumented immigrants. sometimes i ruled against such persons. >> the showdown begins as democrats get their first chance to question judge gorsuch, chuck grassley was a committee vote on gorsuch by april 3rd in the full vote in the senate later that same week. >> tucker: trace gallagher. thank you. national communications director for the working families party, a progressive third party -- hostile to the nomination of judge gorsuch. he joins us now. thank you for coming on. >> thank you so much for having me on tonight, thank you for something you said last week. you and i may not agree on a tremendous amount but last week you were interviewing trump about the health care bill, and you pointed out that if centerpiece was a massive tax cut for investors, the other

side of the coin was millions of people who are going to actually lose their health care coverage. >> tucker: i don't know if the tax cut is the centerpiece. it certainly component. >> it's an odd place to put the tax credit in my view. >> tucker: i appreciate that, joe. let me ask you about the judge here. there always think i agree with people on. i'm sure you have lots of reasons to bring it up, but let me into the week mack meat of what i want to talk to you and that is the supreme court nomination. i am sure you do not agree with a lot of the beliefs the judge has but the core question is, can he interpret the constitution faithfully? i'm figuring out what exactly your problem is with this guy. here's a letter that you sent to democratic members of the senate. you said he has an extreme ideological agenda supported by some of the most dangerous ultraconservative and white nationalist groups. what does that even mean? >> i think this means that neil

gorsuch is someone who is shown through his long record that every act he has taken, wheneves given the chance between siding with a corporation or a working-class person, every single time he has picked the other side than i would've picked. i don't know if you're following -- >> tucker: so you are saying white supremacist organizations. you have every right to disagree with his decisions, but you are trying to tar him with the brush of white supremacy, and my question is, on the basis of what evidence did you say that? >> gorsuch -- trump has this muslim ban he is trying to pass, it has been swatted down by judges twice. the supreme court is just one justice away from someone who overruled those lower court decisions and make a muslim than the law of america. i thought america with the land that believed in religious freedom for all people and i have not heard gorsuch forcefully denounce a

muslim ban. >> tucker: [laughs] because gorsuch has not come out during the nomination process -a i think is what you are saying -- during his own nomination process and attacked trump's travel ban, you call him a white supremacist? that's so unfair, it's hard to believe you're actually saying that. >> it's one of the core questions of public policy right now, whether or not our country is one that has a place for people of all religions or p whether trump should be allowedo to pass a ban. >> tucker: he began four days of his hearings where he could be asked that, by the way, a supreme court justice job is not to formulate public policy, is to interpret the constitution. t it's not to make laws. and determine whether it is constitutional or not. >> and he has fallen way short of the standard of saying -- i >> tucker: you tried to tie him to white supremacists. i just want you to -- that is an

unfair thing to say and you should not think things like that unless you have reasons for saying that. >> not denouncing trump's muslim ban becomes close to that line. >> tucker: is that the standard? >> there are a lot of problems with the nomination of gorsuch. >> tucker: you said something appalling and unfair. >> let's move on. >> tucker: i think our viewers understand and you understand that something that's indefensible and you should concede it. your point is that he is against working people. right? >> choosing between corporations and a working person, he chooses the wrong side. this case he was a judge on with a truck driver, going through illinois -- a truck driver had to pull over and the brakes on his trailer were frozen on a freezing cold subzero day.ve

to protect his own safety and maybe even save his life, he disconnected his trailer, drove away to safety. in the end, his employers fired him for doing that. the court sided with the truck driver. he said the only way he could have protected his job was to sit in a freezing cold subzero truck and risk his life. think about, tucker what would you have done sitting in the truck. >> tucker: i'm not sure you understand what the>>uc supreme court is or how it works. i agree with you, every personr watching, you should not be fired for leaving a freezing cold truck. >> neil gorsuch does not agreeho with that. >> tucker: his job is to interpret the law as passed by the congress, not the court. the court does not make laws, the congress does. if the actions are consistent with the law, there's nothing you can do about it. that is what the job is.

>> every time he is asked to make a decision, he always chooses the side of corporations. >> tucker: why are you complaining to your friends -- up in the senate, the one you're writing letters to about white supremacy? hey, pass a law protecting people whose trucks break down? >> the court sided with thee driver in that case. it's a funny thing, about gorsuch's -- >> tucker: there are democrats siding with gorsuch. is the question of interpreting the law. it's the same thing with the hobby lobby case. >> same with the hobby lobby case.ob where he said the right of corporations' religious beliefs are more important than the person working there. >> tucker: i have it right in front of me. the green family that owns hobby lobby, their religious beliefs were sincere. you may find them repugnant, all you need to know is that they were sincere and therefore protected by the religious freedom restoration act of 1993.

>> as an evenhanded observer, he was protecting the law? siding with the less powerful side than the powerful corporate entity? >> tucker: he did side with the less powerful person. the greens as you know are reviled by most people. if you were to do a poll saying are you sympathetic to hobby lobby or the federal government? i bet it would be 90/10, there's no more unfashionable person than the plaintiffs in this case. >> who has the power to fire him who? if you think the employers and ceos are the less powerful people in a comparison with thep people who work for them, and i've got news for you -- c they are not as -- >> tucker: i don't think that.r these disparities are addressed in the legislative branch.

that is what democracy is. if you want something, you change it through legislation. that is the whole system. but you don't bother doing that, you try to put judges in who will do what you want. affect the outcome you desire and thatat is not constitutional and it is also antidemocratic. people don't get a chance to vote on that stuff. >> that's not right. when you have a person who evern single time has to make the choice choosing the side of the corporation, he is someone who thinks the huge unlimited amounts of money that are currently flooding our electoral system are not enough. the reason i connect this to health care is because i think it's part of a pattern where you see the trump administration and their appointees over and over again siding with the wealthy and powerful at the expense of everybody else whether it is their desire to roll back wall street, their desire to --e >> tucker: i just lived through eight years of the most massive wealth disparity build up in my lifetime.

under the obama administration. where the overwhelming majority of the spoils were at the top 1%. if he does make it worse, i will be the first to complain. >> is that true? i will be emailing to find out about that one. every single thing trump has proposed so far. >> tucker: joe, thank you for joining us. up next, what if we try to being friendly with russia instead of treating them like a comic book villain all the time? describing the possible advantages of that course, stay tuned. advantages of that coursey here's to the heroes -- america's small business owners. and here's to the heroes behind the heroes, who use their expertise to keep those businesses covered. and here's to the heroes behind the heroes behind the heroes, who brought us delicious gyros. actually, the gyro hero owns vero's gyros, so he should have been with those first heroes. ha ha! that's better. so, to recap -- small business owners are heroes,

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i understand the political component to it, i get what this is about hurting the trump people, fine. but there does seem to be something genuine at the court here. democrats seem actually mad in a way that i cannot remember them being. why? >> they are mad at russia because they to believe that they did not lose the election, that somebody stole it from t them. that's why what we saw today with frankly nuts. the democrats as you said, they they are two sound bites insisting that they are going to build a new want and have brush and pay for it. this is going nowhere for them. it's a mess and, and if you did subscribe seriously to the theory that putin was trying to mess with america, what do we have now? we have been internal

investigation that is designed to drag down the united states government. this investigation, this is doing putin's bidding more thanr having some cabinet secretary in his pocket wood. today's hearing was bizarre in a very particular way. when someone like comey says vladimir putin absolutely hates hillary clinton, what business is that of a domestic law enforcement agency? why the hell is the fbi trying to figure out what vladimir putin thinks of a washed up had-been presidential candidate? >> tucker: what should our posture towards russia be? what should we think of russia, those of us were not caught up? i'm kind of agnostic. what should i think about russia? >> i think rush is fundamentally -- once you strip away a century of communism -- russia is

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the idea that democrats are suddenly prepared to launch world war iii over crimea -- it's completely preposterous. where were they almost 40 years ago?ri >> tucker: in a very different place. a little weird to hear people who lionize hugo chavez. they complain about a strong man. trump's position, he said it out loud, we share a common enemy in radical islam. with the russian government and we can make common cause to fight it. is that a tenable plan? >> i think so. at his rally tonight, he wast emphasizing american plans, make america great again. putin wants to make russia great again. and so far as those objectives do not conflict, we should think strategically. russia has had a much better track record in syria. they've kept their strongman in place, we spent 15 years in a

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>> tucker: mark was just on and he made the point that america being safe doesn't mean you have to be at war wi >> tucker: mark was just on and he made the point that america being safe doesn't mean you have to be at war with russia. some lawmakers determined to make that country an enemy, perhaps a military foe. what can we learn from reagan's example? as it happens, a ragged biographer is here with us. he has written another book

called "reagan rising," just before reagan came back to become president. great to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: you have written a lot on this president and this period. did you ever think you would grow old enough to see democrats pushing for a new world order? >> no, i didn't. it's a new world order.in >> tucker: the debate in the '80s, it was democrats are too soft on russia. that was reagan's position, wasn't it? >> yes, on arms control. soviet expansionist. they are always soft on the soviets. going back to the famous -- excommunicate. >> tucker: reagan obviously hated soviet communism.. how did he feel about the russians? >> there was no animosity toward the russian people. he really knew -- he abhorred the idea of nuclear war but he was obsessed with defeating the soviet union in the cold war but

he knew to beat an idea with a better idea -- she was once flying over the suburbs on his way to an air force base. he was looking out the window and he said mr. president, what do you see down there?he he says, i've got to getai gorbachev to see what we have here. we have a better idea for governance, prosperity and freedom and opportunity here than they have there. >> tucker: your book is about the years between reagan's t attempt to become the republican nominee and then his victory in 1980. r what did he do to make that possible? what's the lesson? >> that's what the book is about, of course. he took advantage of everyib political opportunity that was handed to him.m. it was a time of almost a conservative enlightenment, coming into fold. flowering in the 1970s, we

were rejecting the new deal, the great society, the panama canal treaties, tax cuts, afghanistan, the left was being proven wrong at every level. you can't win an election just by being against something, you have to be for something. reagan is evolving as a conservative. in 1964 he speaks for goldwater. it was a great, great speech but reagan is often angry in the speech. he's angry at the antiwar protesters, the great society, lbj, by 1977, he is now electing a much more hopeful message -- the answer is conservative, not just antiliberalism, it's pro-conservatism. that's what he's doing, evolving as a conservative to a much more optimistic one. >> tucker: you have to be for something. >> everything is centered on

human freedom. personal, private freedom. >> tucker: the framework, all of it hung on being for something. thank you a lot. up next, a dreadful story from the d.c. suburbs.. an adult d illegal immigrant arrived here from guatemala and a set of being sent home he was sent to high school and was put in ninth grade, for some reason. and now he is charged with rating a fellow student in the bathroom. we have an update just ahead. work with awesome people, and we get to make great games. ( ♪ ) what i like about the area, feels like everybody knows each other. and i can go to my local coffee shop and they know who i am. it's really cool. new york state is filled with bright minds like lisa's. to find the companies and talent of tomorrow, search for our page, jobsinnewyorkstate on linkedin. even if you're trying your best.be a daily struggle,age,

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>> tucker: a horrifying news this weekend from rockville, maryland. according to police, a 14-year-old high school student was raped in the bathroom by two boys. that's bad enough but it gets worse. sanchez is an illegal alien here, he has been here seven months and has not been reported.

not only that, despite being the age of upperclassman, both alleged rapists were classified as freshman, who shared the samela grade as they are much younger victim.. a resident of rockville, campaigning against that city becoming a sanctuary city. thank you for coming on. the sadness of all of this iss that earlier this month, march, you wrote a letter to the mayor and city council of rockville saying this could potentially bt a problem. you obviously were horrified that this happened. >> we had a public hearing. 88 people signed up, ten left because it went too long. i submitted a petition against it because there was a petition to recommend to the mayor and council for it to become a sanctuary city but it really didn't use that language, they were actually saying they wanted to have policy on how the rockville police department should enforce the immigration law. of course we know thatar our county is very liberal.

i think the city is going to follow their suit, the other problem is that the state is going forth with making it a sanctuary state. quite a few of us are upset about this. >> tucker: you are an immigrant. you came to this country from europe as a child. you said our freedoms are in jeopardy, decided to enforce the laws they like.ed if you don't like a law, change it. that seems like a basic understanding the way our government is supposed to work. >> we had a lot of chinese people speak, they said they had to wait in line to come here and that they have issues with the fact that they came here for law and order and that these people who are coming here illegally are being protected and it is not right. >> tucker: they came here because they wanted to live in a place where law was takenhe seriously, people are treated equally. the bitter irony for them anden for you. is that how you feel as an immigrant? >> definitely so.

i am for law and order, i've been fighting this. when the situation in rockville happened, it made me upset because of the fact that a 14-year-old girl was not protected in high school and all all the money that we in montgomery county pay and our taxes that goes mostly to schools, they have a situation where they allow illegals to come into a high school, at 17 and 18, illegal, do not speak english, and have an opportunity to do this kind of crime to a 14-year-old is really very disheartening. >> tucker: there is one of the perpetrators right there. most people who come to this country legally or illegally are not like this. like this guy is alleged to be but the truth is, it does not improve your school, a lot of people come -- they should do better, shouldn't they? >> they should have had some remedial english class first. what i do not understand, how can two boys grab a 14-year-old girl and put her into the men's

room and rape her? if you look at the police report, it is ridiculous what they did. rape is one thing but it is just awful. they tried to hold her face to keep from screaming. this is in a school. how can 18-year-olds -- >> tucker: how do two 18 year-olds wind up in a ninth grade classroom? >> is the policy of the montgomeryin school district. >> tucker: really at that point we are saying we don't care about education, that is not our goal to educate kids.? if you are doing that is that the message? >> i don't think you need to put these kind of illegal kids and legal kids -- if you are here as an illegal, you are here against the law and that is a crime. that's the way i look at it. >> tucker: you have an old-fashioned view of that. the outcome of the promise when you camet here? >> all of the ones that are waiting in line to come here illegally, i just spoke with thn driver that brought me here. he said his father took eight years before he could bring hisr family here.

that is sad. you see what happens here. some illegals -- i don't know how they got here. it's very disheartening. >> tucker: you are an articulate spokesperson. thanks a lot. other immigration news, michigan becoming more vibrant by introducing a new sport there, cockfighting. that highly illegal and abhorrent practice remains popular in mexico, so it's not surprise at the feds uncovered a massive cockfighting ring ina mexico town, a neighborhood in southwest detroit. 86 people were arrested along with hundreds of chickens. no surprise, many of the people there were not here legally. deportation hearings now scheduled for roughly 50 people who were involved, welcome to your new country. i hope you are enjoying it. coming up, isn't just congress discrediting itself through the history about russia, we will highlight the most egregious hysterics from the press, if we can pronounce it. that's after the f break.

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>> sean: thank you so much, tucker. fox news alert, president trump just wrapped up his rally in louisville, kellyanne conway, speaker of the house paul ryan will join us in a few minutes but first here are some of the highlights of that speech.h. >> thursday is our chance to end obamacare and the obamacare catastrophe. and begin delivering the reforms are people deserve. i am confident that if we empower the american people, we will accomplish incredible things for our country. not just on health care. but all across our government. our struggling industries are going to be revitalized and ouro dying factories will come