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he's very much having a hearty laugh. >> great to be with you, will be back together tomorrow morning. looking forward to it. >> we now know an american citizen was among the four people killed in yesterday's terror attack in london. hello everybody, i'm jenna lee. >> leland: kurt cochran died, his wife was injured as a terrorist drove his car onto the sidewalk and drove down as many pedestrians as he could. he then stabbed a police officer, officers open fired and killed the radical before he could reach parliament. isis says that terrorist is now a soldier of the state. >> jenna: we are joined by greg from the westminster bridge
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in london. what are we learning about the victim, what are we learning about the attack? >> it is just 24 hours since the terrible attack and here, westminster bridge were a lot of the carnage occurred is reopened for business. i can ask my cameraman to swing around and show you what happen. an assailant in an suv came up that road there and then he hopped to this curb and went down the sidewalk the west side of the bridge, plowing through pedestrians at 30, 40, may be more of miles an hour, killing and injuring and then ending up at the base of big ben there, smashing his vehicle into the perimeter. going in with a knife, killing a policeman, he was then killed by policeman shot dead. this very spot holds a lot of significance. we believe it's very important because kurt cochran, the american that you just mentioned could very well have died right here. he and his wife, we believe,
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were standing here when they were hit by the car. he was then thrown over the sludge and landed on that landing down there. he would later die of his wound wounds. his wife was injured there and was brought to one of the hospitals. he was one of the 29 people -- she was one of the 29 people who were injured seriously. this as rates happened overnight throughout the u.k. in birmingham and we understand here in london. eight were arrested we believe linked to this attack. isis, as you say, claiming responsibility for the attack. prime minister teresa may sing the assailant was known to intelligence authorities here, that he was on the radar from hostile acts you missed violence in the past, but he was peripheral. what happened here was anything but aside from the fact. what happened here is now being
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closely studied. forensic teams are going through all of the details, trying to find out whether he was a lone wolf or if he was assisted, helped by other people. they are also trying to figure out how exactly this went down and how security could be improved. finally, a lot of words also being said and support that prey policeman, unarmed standing at the gate to the permanent grounds, he's the one that went face-to-face with this killer and he is the one who in died. he attributes him, attributes from the cities around the world, especially in europe i was seeing this kind of terror. this is the first time in about 12 years at this city has seen this kind of carnage and they are really determined to continue to carry on. this is the scene, one more time. look at the bridge, it was like this, you can see a crowded scene of pedestrians now. this is the way it was and our
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latest understanding is that car that he was driving at 30, 40, may be more miles an hour, slamming down people and we believe the american who died in this attack happened right here. back to you. >> jenna: it really brings it back home yesterday as the news broke. we are seeing the helicopter shots alive of the bridge that you are now on completely shut down. i have to say, quite remarkable that is already open back up again after what happened yesterday. didn't just reopen? are they allowing pedestrians to walk freely? all things considered, one thing you see on the bridge as there is nowhere to go if someone is driving up on the sidewalk. >> exactly, i just reopened in the last hour or so. number one, i think first and foremost, it's a sign that the british people do not want to seem held down by this terror. theresa may said this morning in
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the house of commons, she said we are not afraid. this is a sign of showing that the british people are not afraid. you have the double-decker red buses, you got the cabs coming about tourists and you've got the police presence here still. but again, this area open for business. this area and all of england showing defiance in the face of this terror. >> jenna: thank you very much to you and your cameraman. we appreciate it. >> leland: the vote on the gop's health care reform bill could be just hours away in the house, but is still very unclear if a speaker ryan has the votes to pass it. this, as we await a crucial closed-door meeting between president trump and members of the house freedom cochran's who are, shall we say, skeptical perhaps, of the bill itself. john roberts, live for all the
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arm-twisting will take place at the white house. >> good morning to you. whether the vote will happen tonight depends on the man in the oval office today. republican leaders sing the whole thing depends on whether or not the president can make a deal. he took to twitter this morning suggesting that it people had been sold a bill of goods with obamacare. he said they were lied to and their need to be a change. >> go with our plan, it's going to be terrific. you're going to be very, very happy. call your local representative, call your senator, let them know that you are behind our plan. >> a big stumbling block of course is the opposition from the freedom caucus. they want big changes to the regulatory framework of the american health care act, including so-called essential benefits that were mandated by
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obamacare and other regulatory items, which the current version of this bill leaves intact. you can see there jim jordan, he was on our air just a short time ago. here's what he said about it. >> never forget about what obamacare did. it mandated that bunch of -- where trying to get rid of the mandates. were trying to bring down the cost of insurance and bring back affordable insurance. if that happens, we'll support it, if it doesn't, we won't. >> caucus chair mark meadows sounding a lot more optimistic late last night that he did earlier in the day. he was suggested that he and the president had the framework of a deal. >> the president and i came to an agreement in principle. i think what we're trying to do now is make sure that our agreement is something that can be executed in a way that passes the senate. >> it really is one of the
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crucial parts of this deal. there is a something in senate called the byrd rule which limits the amount of changes you can make and what's called the reconciliation bill, and this is a reconciliation bill. if people in the house were to take out all the regulatory framework, some say you can't get it through the senate. ted cruz has been working very closely with the white house to figure out way around that. he thinks he has a plan. they might be able to get it passed the senate. >> leland: this on the seventh anniversary of president obama signing obamacare into law. john roberts, thank you. >> jenna: we're going to talk to you more about all this. i'd like to remind our viewers that we could be related, we are not sure. in the meantime, we're going to talk about health care. what is your sense of where everything stands today at 11:00 eastern time? >> it's very much up in the air.
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there's a lot going on. you have a lot of meetings on capitol hill, you have the president who who is still doia lot of arm-twisting. i was talking to an official who says he is constantly on the phone. he's with his staff in the oval office. he's meeting, he's really putting a lot of effort into this. they're supposed to take a vote later today, but it's unclear if they'll be able to get all the pieces together and give everybody something that they want in order to get a bill passed. this is been really interesting to watch just because we haven't seen this president but what he's proclaimed as is very good dealmaking skills to practice in terms of passing legislation. we've seen a lot of executive action, but not him trying to get legislation passed. he has pulled out all the stops and is really in the last week or so been working this. >> jenna: quite frankly, it is
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the first big legislate of effort. as the first time to see his leadership and perhaps a style we might see over the next four years or so. the description is very important that you just gave. it seems there is an interesting pace as to how many calls are being placed, how many members he's been able to talk to you. you have any sense of the numbers or whose me he's been able to reach? >> he's been reaching dozens of lawmakers. he's doing things -- we look at the different tax that he is taking and he had a bill signing earlier and he is pressing the republicans in the office to pass the health care. he met with republicans on capitol hill were part of his message was you have to repeal obamacare dozens and dozens of time and now we really have the opportunity to do this. you're worried about if there's
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a small detail here are there. he has to get conservatives on board along with moderate republicans and that's just in the house. if he's a successful they are, you have to go over to the senate where it's going to get even tougher for him. >> jenna: i'm sure as a writer you can understand the significance of the grammar. even though it may not matter. the timing is not lost on any of us. we're going to show our viewers video from six years ago today almost the exact same time. president obama signing the health care into law. there is symbolism for today. as far as the timing of having to get this bill done today in the house, is it arbitrary? is it necessary? how do you see it? >> this is something that republicans have been promising to do since 2010. we are looking at almost seven
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years. for them to not be successful in this would be politically damaging for them. particularly when you now have -- is going to be very hard for them to come up with an excuse for why it failed because you have the house and the senate and now the white house all republican-controlled. the stakes are really high for not just the president, but for republican leaders in congress. i think that you are going to see them not give up on this. if it doesn't come up for a vote today, that means that this process is over. they have a lot riding on this and they need to be able to show that they can deliver on a promise that they have been making for elections. the other thing is you have president obama and democrats who watched republicans campaign against this health care plan and try to repeal it over and over and over again, and they're kind of enjoying watching the struggle here.
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>> jenna: quite rightly, we are all watching to see what happens hour by hour. i want to ask you quickly about another very big story. you have president trump, he's talking about the potential ties between his campaign in russia. you have the fbi director confirming an investigation saying that he's seen circumstantial evidence. you have devin nunes, the top republican lawmaker saying there wasn't surveillance surveillance that included trump and his team. there's a lot being said, but what are the facts as you see them to any of these stories at this moment? >> the fact is that the fbi are conducting an investigation to determine whether or not there were collusion between members of the trump campaign and russian government to undermine the election, particularly
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against hillary clinton. that's a fact. we know some of those people who have been looked at so far, but we don't know where this investigation is going. we also know that intelligence committees are looking at russia related investigations. what we saw yesterday was the chairman of the house intelligence committee raised more questions than answers by going to the white house and saying that he had reviewed these documents that disclosed names of officials and incidentally, legally, gathered intelligence and conversation. these conversations were by trump officials. that added a level of confusion. >> jenna: we have lawmakers saying a lot of things and not presenting the facts to reporters yet of the documents that are supporting what they're
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>> jenna: the security chief of the e.u. today suggesting it is no coincidence the isis claimed terror attacks came exactly one year after the suicide bombs in brussels. at least eight arrests and six overnight raids across england. in the meantime, you just saw that westminster bridge for the attack began has reopened and we are now joined by an eyewitness to the salt. kevin show field is the editor. it's great to have you on the program and we appreciate your perspective. at the beginning of all this, can you set the scene for us about where exactly where when
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the attack began? >> i was in the part of parliament called the press gallery which is where all the press of the parliament work and i was sitting at my desk when i heard a loud crash like a car crash on westminster bridge road which is several yards from where my office is. i looked out the window and it was unclear exactly what had happened. i noticed a few seconds later some commotion and a man rushed through the security gates and attacked a police officer and they both went down to the ground and another police officer appeared and approached that incident. my view is obscured a couple
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seconds later so i couldn't exactly see what happened after he stabbed the officer. i heard gunfire and that's when i realized that something serious had happened. >> jenna: what a scene to witness. one went through your mind as you are watching all this? >> my brain couldn't quite get on board with what was happening. it all seemed so surreal that this guy had possibly busted through the security gate and then he got to a police officer. at that time, i didn't know he was armed. that was quite shocking. it all happened very, very quickly. we had the gunfire. at that point, i didn't know whether the attacker had the gun or whether someone else managed to get into the gate who was
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armed as well. subsequently, we found out that it was the police shooting the man. >> jenna: understandable confusion, especially in light of what happened. you mentioned how head how heavily fortified the area is with security already. has anyone alerted you that additional security changes in light of what happened 24 hours ago? >> nothing obvious thus far. the prime minister has said security is always kept in constant review. they are trying to make that particular part of parliament even more secure. for some reason, the police on that specific gate were taken off and they were not armed.
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>> jenna: that's a really interesting twist and one that we should probably look more into. we appreciate you taking the time to share your story with us, thank you very much. we'll be right back with more happening now bp developed new, industry-leading software to monitor drilling operations in real-time, so our engineers can solve problems with the most precise data at their fingertips. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. youthat's why you drink ensure. sidelined. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. of a duracell c-cell and the tips on how to calm a baby
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today, we meet with normal. as generations before us have done and generations after us will continue to do. we deliver a simple message, we are not afraid in our result will never waver in the face of terrorism. >> jenna: on the phone now, former fbi deputy director and hostage rescue team commander. dani, good to talk to you as always. sadly, it always seems to be under these circumstances. >> it was very interesting with the prime minister had to say. she says we shouldn't be afraid, while we should be afraid. a policeman was unarmed and murdered and they need to address these situations where policeman can't wear their uniforms in london. >> leland: we heard from an eyewitness that jenna talked to who was a member of the press before this happened and talk to a couple of the guards there
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parliament and said that the armed officers who would normally be on duty where this confrontation took place with the attacker had recently had their weapons taken away. >> that's lunacy. that's absolutely crazy. the political correctness is going to destroy civilization. we don't understand that we are at war with people who want to and have the capability of killing us. >> leland: let's get it back to what happened here in terms of what we've missed. as you see the way this happened and you look at westminster bridge, the car is driving on the left rather than the right like any bridge in america. you get the sense that this attack could have transpired in the very same way in washington, miami beach, orlando, on sunset boulevard.
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>> it's a usual technique, it's one that isis uses because anyone can get a car, anybody that wants to can mow people down and do it. it's a fact of life. it's coming to america. we should be really concerned about that. i have fear about this escalating and coming over here and we'll have to deal with it over here just like they are over there. the differences we are armed. >> leland: we've heard from analysts from the united kingdom talking about the fact that this happened in central london, they were able to respond so quickly because there are armed officers and response teams next to parliament, but if it happened in another city, it very easily could have been a much different response because there wouldn't have been a policeman finally able to step in and shoot this guy.
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>> that's exactly right. that's why they need to arm their policeman. it's crazy to not. they have to understand -- and frankly, an unarmed policeman is just an usher. i hate to say that. >> leland: in this case, a very brave usher, as you might say, who stepped in. he knew he was unarmed when he took us attacker on. he paid with his life. >> they have to have the tools to respond to these attacks. >> leland: we have to leave it there. thanks so much and we'll talk to you sometime soon, hopefully under better circumstances. >> jenna: it looks like we're getting a little more information by the way as far as the profile of the london attacker. we're going to look in those and pass them along to you and confirm them ourselves. the story is gathering someone information at this point. the meantime, back here at home, a huge step in the republicans
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>> jenna: we have breaking news from scotland yard about the terrorist and the terror attack in london that we've been covering over the last 24 hours and i'm going to read a few of the headlines we are receiving at this time including confirmation of the terrorists name. he was 52 years old and he was known to police, however, police say he was not the subject of any current investigation and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to commit a terrorist attack. however, he was known to law enforcement for a myriad of different reasons. he had previous convictions including assault, possession of offensive weapons, and public order offenses as well. apparently, his rap sheet, if you will, dates back to 1983. a known entity, although the police backing off saying there wasn't anything known about him
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intending to commit this terrorist attack as he did yesterday. he has not been convicted for any terrorism offenses. he was known by a number of different aliases, 52 years old, the first information we have about this attacker as we get more, we will bring it to you. >> leland: back to domestic news, there's a big showdown that looms over the g.o.p. a word or that the houseboat may not even happen today. house speaker paul ryan has delayed his weekly press briefing from 11:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. eastern. he is in g.o.p. lawmakers hard to keep their campaign promise and repeal and replace obamacar obamacare. he wrote "the bill effectively cuts obamacare, all its taxes, mandates, and spending. ed initiates a stable without
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pulling the rug out from anyone and it puts in place good conservative health care policies." more on this, former howard dean campaign manager. gentlemen, nice to see you. you have to think that paul ryan and for that matter, and president trump were thinking today was going to be a victory lap, rather than delay his press having to twist arms with the freedom caucus meeting that scheduled for right now at the white house. >> i don't think anybody thought this would happen. it's always going to be a tough road when you have conservatives trying to push it in one direction and the moderates in the other. it's expected that there is a tough here, but my experience is that when you have these kinds of really tough make or break votes, the majority generally
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prevails. >> leland: do you agree with this? do you think they'll pull this out whether it be at the 11th hour tonight or perhaps tomorrow? >> i think that's the only way they'll pull it out, it will be at the 11th hour, either very late tonight or the next day or so. these votes are really tough ones. it takes a lot of arm-twisting by the president to get them over. i've seen this before. >> leland: what do you make of the fact that this bill is really being sold on its political necessities when you listen to either donald trump or paul ryan talk about it or other members of the house republicans leadership. we must pass this, we promised it. they're talking a lot about the political necessities, not often about the merits of the bill. >> that's because they're so much disagreement within the republican party about the merits of the bill. they just can agree on it. i don't think they're going to get much agreement, they have to
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pass it and that's part of the problem. the house will have to pass this knowing full well the senate will change dramatically and walk the plank for a bill that's not going to be law and they have to face the voters back home about some of the things that are in this thing. it's the political necessity of the party that's claiming we promised this, we have to pass it. actually, that's one of the best leverage as they have. >> leland: you just talked about facing voters back home. listen to this sound bite from tuesday. sean spicer the white house podium. >> let's get through the vote. i think one of the things we made clear this morning was that he is going to make sure the people who don't support this, he would be out there supporting them. i'm not going to focus on the negatives and he made it clear to members that those of you who go out and keep your word and support it, will make sure that we remember those who stood by us. >> leland: i get the idea that
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sean spicer doesn't want to focus on the negative, but you listen to that sound bite, there is an implied threat there. you're there with the president or you're against him. if you're against them, air force ones makes a lot of noise. >> that's obviously part of it, but it's so important to the president's agenda going forward. you want to get infrastructure through nfp want to get tax reform through, you need to show it getting through the house even if there is disagreement among members. >> leland: is also a referendum? >> if he loses this vote, it's very detrimental to the rest of his presidency. i think that's why he's likely to get the majority to go along with him. this reminds me of a lot of the 1993 budget reconciliation vote that clinton badly needed. at past the house by one vote.
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al gore had to break the tie in the u.s. senate to pass it. one year later, 54 members of democrats in the house went out the window and lost their seat and lost the majority. these kinds of votes is where the president's credibility is on the line. if it doesn't work out, it's a disaster. >> leland: in 1983, they didn't have twitter. jenna has more in the london terror attack. >> jenna: breaking news comes into our newsroom about the identity of the attacker. in the meantime, isis is claiming responsibility for the deadly attack in london. has supporters of the group of cheering the carnage on line. that could suggest that the attack was somehow retaliation. we'll get to that more in a moment. in the meantime, british
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prime minister speaking to the parliament and her nation. >> mr. speaker, we know the threat from terrorism is very real, but while the public should remain utterly vigilant, they should not and will not be cowered by this threat. >> jenna: joining me now is a senior editor for the long word journal. i want to talk to you little bit about this breaking news that we had moments ago. the profile of the attacker, something that strikes me, he's 52, was known to law enforcement, not necessarily for terror offensives. >> i think you bodies tend to be younger, but it's not surprising to see people a little older. i see guys with graybeards, white beards. they had a propaganda shot from a guy from western china who came to fight in iraq and syria
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who is an elderly gentleman. this doesn't appeal to just the demographic, but younger guys are attracted to it. >> jenna: there are other arrests that have been made, we don't know why quite yet. what questions do you have at this point? >> there's a lot i don't know, i'm just getting basic details about this guy. i want to know when it does make a difference whether or not the guy was inspired or was receiving some sort of guidance and was communicate with somebody or if there's something more going on here. the reason for that is beat throughout europe, we discovered remote-control attacks where terrorists who appeared to be lone wolves are nothing of the sort. there talking to isis operatives in iraq who are guiding them through their terror. in the u.s., there are been attempts to control terrorism in
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the u.s. we don't know a lot about what this guy is or what his relationship is. >> jenna: that's interesting and i know you've talked about that in relation to germany, for example the remote control part. in the meantime, there has been this question about whether or not the pressure on isis is going to and will produce and has produced more attacks in europe. i want to talk to a little bit more about that. we have to take a quick break. is this just the beginning of the wave of attacks? we'll talk about that in just a moment
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syria. what do you think about theory? >> i think the security services are already on overload. no matter where you go, they're trying to track down threats. even as isis is under pressure, they've already been trying for months now to launch attacks across europe. the question is are we going to find that there are more foreign fighters returning from a battlefield that can attack? you'll see something through the security notes for that. they're also losing a lot of security. my theory is the threat is pretty close to peak, they're already trying to come at us from every point you can think of. i don't think there will be any major shift in strategy. >> jenna: one can't help but wonder about the coincidence of the timing of the ban on electronics coming from certain airports in the middle east and otherwise. do you think there's any sort of crossover? is it a coincidence? why are we hearing about that now we have a terror attack this week? >> there are two different streams here. the attack in london is the attacker that isis and al qaeda
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have tried to inspire to commit attacks. that's a small scale operation. the electronics band, i think, is much more geared toward a larger scale by a qaeda and particular. they've been experimenting with laptop based explosive. they want to sneak these onto planes and blow them up at once. this is an idea that has been around since 1994. they keep updating and experimenting with it and they basically have not decided to go forward with us for some time, but they've been extremity with these explosives. february of last year, and al qaeda operative blew a hole in a plane using this type of explosive. >> jenna: i remember that, he blew himself out of the plane. >> individuals i've talked to are very suspicious that may have been a test flight. they may have been experimenting to see how it would perform in
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an aircraft. i think electronic span is being generated by this intelligence that's been percolating for a while. it may be emphasized by the rate in january. the bottom line, the thing to my mind that worries me the most is i don't think al qaeda has had the go-ahead for a big plot and some time. i don't think they've even tried to attack us in some time. that's a calculation on their part. if they change the calculation, doesn't mean they'll succeed, it could fail for any number of reasons, but they will usually sneak something through as well and i thing that's part of what's driving this ban. >> jenna: briefly, what do you make of the fact that the government has made this move now, having known about the potential of this for decades? >> there's an update to the plot that they've gotten better at building these explosives. the original plot involved the quit bombs, they tried something similar in 2006. now they have something that is more sophisticated than they
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could shape like a laptop and sneak it through security. this type of extreme and tatian, they might detect and out across multiple battlefields. people are realizing that these guys are serious and there's a possibility that they will use these things on planes anytime now. >> jenna: thank you. >> leland: even before the hearings are over, democratic senators issuing their verdict on judge neil gorsuch. we'll tell you what republicans have his options to get him on the supreme court my bladder wake me up from my sweet dreams? thanks to tena, not tonight! only tena overnight underwear ...with its secure barrier system gives you.... ...triple protection from leaks, odor and moisture. tena lets you be you
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from the american bar association that called him "well-qualified" for the job. joining us now, former law clerks and supreme court -- we know that you went through the past two nominations. i know you don't like neil gorsuch very much, be a bigger republicans points for how they pulled one off. >> it's been a deeply cynical idea that so far, it's working for them. this story is not finished yet. as neil gorsuch shows record comes more to light, his record of being very strongly against the underlying reasons to support women's rights to make reproductive choices, his strong
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record against workers rights comes to light, the outlook is dim. >> leland: we are guessing you're into disagreed, but i want to get this idea about whether judge or gorsuch will become justice gorsuch. as i said, he will have to earn 60 votes from confirmation. speak out there not even finished with the hearings yet, but we have some democratic senators who promise to filibuster. it's no surprise, the democrats are gearing up for unprecedented obstruction. a filibuster has never been used to block a supreme court nominee with majority support as he has. everyone except for senate democrats, it looks like they will make the effort. it's clear he will be confirmed and we know harry reid has shown us how to change the rules on
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this topic. if you want except judges gorsuch, it's clear democrats will not accept any nominee. >> leland: 's is the right deal for democratic senators -- they said there may be some kind of deal on the table where democrats agree to vote for neil gorsuch which and get him over the 60 votes in return, republicans say if there is another supreme court vacancy for donald trump to fill, that they will not use the nuclear option the second time around. is that a fair deal or not? >> that sounds like that old cartoon of i will gladly pay you on tuesday for a hamburger toda today. i don't think that is a deal that democrats can make with any degree of confidence. >> leland: we heard from brian fallon, he thinks democrats should stop raising money if they make that deal. we appreciate your insight and time. we'll be right back.
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>> jenna: a busy news day and more to come, we'll see you back here in an hour. >> leland: the ladies of "outnumbered," take away. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. we have learned that a utah man was involved and killed in the terror attack yesterday. they were celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary. police are naming the london attacker as a 52-year-old khalid masood. isis is claiming responsibility, calling the attacker one of their soldiers. the killer plowed his car into people on london's westminster bridge. he stabbed a police officer outside parliament before being shot and killed by police. prime minister, theresa may says the attacker was british-born and known to authorities. overnight, british police
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