starts now. >> take it or leave it. president trump is demanding republic answer get onboard with the party's healthcare plan. or he says he will leave obamacare in place. house members are getting set to vote in what could be a make or break moment on capitol hill, we're watching it closely. this is "outnumbered." megan mccain, former security staffer under president bush and obama, gillian turner. former speech writer for president george w. bush at fellow at the american enterprise institute. we are glad to welcome you for the first time as our

#oneluckyguy, outnumbered. >> thank you for having me. >> this is a huge day. >> you picked a slow news day. [ laughing ] >> we do what we can. glad to have you in the house, marc. >> thank you. >> president trump is telling his fellow republicans, enough is enough. and that the negotiations are over. vote for the healthcare plan that is on the table in the house or be stuck with obamacare. wlous press secretary sean spicer told fox news the time is now to get upboard. >> this is the only train league the station that will be repealing obamacare and giving us an alternative to replace it. this is the train that's leaving the station. this is the choice that we've been waiting for, this is the pledge we've made to the american peep. >> we're hearing from president trump who was asked a short time ago if speaker paul ryan still has his backing if today's bill fails. the president says yes. we're also hearing from a key architect of obamacare, dr. zeke emmanuel. he admits fixes are in order he

faults republicans for not bringing democrats onguard. >> -- onboard. >> i've long said we need to move not to a partisan place as the speaker has tried to do, ram through a bill that has only republican support, but get to a bipartisan bill that's good for america. >> let's get the news joining us from the hill, chief congressional correspondent make emmanuel. this changes seconds by seconds. >> harris, i saw 30 people go into an office behind me, perhaps they're trying to get a better sense of whether they're with this bill or against it. we will keep you posted. counting heads at this point. this is the final debate in the house of representatives of the bill is on the floor, on this deadline day. top trump administration officials have been up here a lot in recent days including last night telling lawmakers that the president wanted a vote on this healthcare package today. there's been a lot of consultation between the administration and various groups of lawmakers.

the message, if this fails the white house is prepared to move on to tax form and obamacare stays in place. now they're counting votes a lot of pressure on the conservative house freedom caucus. >> there's going to be at least five, there could be nine, and there could be more, that vote no. and there's going to, i'm told as of last night, there's 17 moderates that are no. some of them may flip and vote yes. >> let's take to you the house floor, the final debate is underway after the rule setting the parameters was passed this morning after a lot of discussion in recent weeks, about repealing and replacing obamacare, a key republican said it's time to get it done. >> i appreciate the input of the administration, i appreciate the fact that the directive to us last night was to put our pencils down and turn our papers in. it is time, mr. speaker. this is a good bill, the rule deserves our support, the

underlying bill deserves our support. >> no surprise democrats are fighting efforts to repeal and replace obamacare and taking aim at republicans. >> what does the gop stand for? get old people. that's what this bill does. that's what people are going to vote yes for today. we have an obligation. >> leadership aids say they believe the pressure of this being deadline day after so much discussion and consultation is convincing some republicans to get onboard with voting yes. but it is believed that the final votes may be the toughest to get. >> all right, mike emmanuel, thank you very much. as we bring it out to you, mark, what we're hearing from the president is if you like your obamacare you can keep your obamacare if they can't get it done. >> exactly what it's going to be. with the politician, they would not be doing. this the american people voted in this election, to send somebody different to washington, who is going to shake things up and do things differently.

that's what president trump is doing here a politician would do what paul ryan is doing, pull the bill, we have to negotiate. trump says no, we're going to vote, come hell or high water and you will be responsible if it doesn't happen. >> not to put too fine a point on it, but this is relatively the beginning of the process. >> sure. >> it has to go to the senate. so i want to ask you about the strategy now with the president. >> i mean, what the president -- the president has nothing to lose. if this passes today, then -- and he succeeds he's the guy who came in at at the last minute and issuing an ultimatum. if he loses it's paul ryan and the republican's fault on the hill. if it succeeds, everybody wins. the house freedom caucus can say we made this bill better, we added -- we improved it, negotiated with trump, made it better. then all you do is vote to send on it to the senate. they're going to amend it and go to conference and fix it. >> gillian, as we watched the sausage being made today, one of the things is people shift from a no to a yes.

representative tom mcarthur was saying to one of the networks how he got there through cost-cutting for seniors. this is interesting. but there are some votes that are flipping. we could see some movement today. >> yes. and just to piggy bag on what mark was saying, we were talking about this earlier in the green room, i had a couple of minutes to digest your point. i was thinking about, yes, it's a win-win for the president. however, he is now saying it's today or bust, we're moving on, moving forward. but the downside for the president is that moving forward looks a whole lot different if he doesn't get it done. as we know, the stuff is set up like legos or dominos, we're looking to move on to tax reform next. that will be a lot more difficult without getting this done first. >> you haven't seen competing narratives. there are a lot of other things. the keystone pipeline pushed through, you saw the president talking about that today. i want to get your response, megan, to this.

president trump tweeted earlier, the irony is that we -- if we can pop it on the screen -- the freedom caucus which is a pro-life and against planned parenthood allowed p.p., planned parenthood, to continue if they stop this plan. >> i was surprised by this tweet. i thought paul rye on would take the fall for this hot mess sandwich. but it is going to be the freedom caucus apparently. home state of arizona, premiums up at 125%. 125%. okay, think about that much so, people who got outvoted, voted -- i know people that voted specifically on this issue, specifically on repealing obamacare are going to say, sorry, the freedom caucus and moderates can't find anything to unify over, we'll let you continue with this hot mess sandwich that. 's not good enough. what kind of politics is this, we can't make it happen so you're up you know what creek without a paddle. i am deeply embarrassed. i was trying to explain to it my friends last night, they're like i don't understand. i voted for this, this should be

going through. whatever political capital. trump thinks he will have, all i know is he is not the dealmaker he claims he is. >> to that point, nancy pelosi is using that same attack, republicans looking amateurish with the timing of this. she said it's a rookie's error to bring legislation to vote so early, mark. as she urged fellow democrats krats to oppose the legislation. timing is everything. >> yes, but it's not a rookie error. the freedom caucus and congressional republicans are learning the difference between being in the opposition and governing. two-thirds of the republican caucus as been elected since 2010, only known bay area rack obama. when you're in the -- barack owe bam. a. when you have the responsibility of dpoverning you have to make compromises, win the people over, never get your pure victory. what the free come caucus needs on decide, they went in, took a hard line, negotiated with trump, got improvements to the bill, it's not everything they

wanted. can they declare victory, accept that they won and made it better and push the process forward and make it better as it goes through. >> i want to drill down into some of the finer points of what would change underneath this bill. i want to get to one of the moments of color in the room. you know, you look at how serious this issue is. it touches every american. and they are kind of quibbling over things like sabotaging microphones. this is democrat representative of ohio. you have to watch this. >> i want to ask why the democratic microphone is turned off. this happened to me the other day when the republican microphone was on over there, the last two speakers we've not been able to hear as well as we heard miss cheney. i want to know why in that is. i hope some one will hear my plea and the parliament tearian will take action. this is too important. >> they need to adjust this?

>>. [laughing] >> sounds plenty loud to me. >> sounds like my mom, you're here for dinner not to do -- sit down, eat, where are your manners. >> keep it in perspective. people are getting totally, you know, screwed but they can't hear your mike? [ laughing ] >> between that and that sign with that lady. it's political theatrics at its worst. people are really hurting right now in a lot of different ways and we'll turn nightside show circus. >> this point about watching this ugly, disgusting you a saj being made is exactly why the american people have zero faith in the conflict and why they have not cracked a 30% approval rating for something like five years. that is atrocious. i think everything that's happening the last few days on capitol hill underscores this. this is bringing out the worst partisan shades in everybody. both sides of the aisle. people are losing their minds as evidenced by -- >> but they're having pizza, we saw 32 pizzas getting delivered.

>> if you're home sick to put a fine point on this, and you're watching this play out and you have got an illness and want to know what is going to shift. you're cap day vated right now by the pizzas coming in and everything else. this really does affect all of us. >> it hits my home state the worst. >> they've gone from 116 to 125% increases. they're going in the wrong direction. >> just keep in mind what the freedom caucus is pushing for, they want to get rifd the part of the bill that has -- gets rid of lifetime caps and pre-existing conditions. that's not what you want to sfak your fight on. >> there -- stake your fight on. >> the story is happening as we speak. house intelligence committee chairman meanwhile devon nunes has made some new announcements about his equipment i's investigation into russia and the presidential elections. after house minority leader nancy pelosi called him a stooge for the president. democrats want him investigated.

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>> the floor of the house of representatives is a hot place. the rye placement for owe xwam a care is being discussed. our producer extraordinairre said i haven't seen a vote in the house where no one knows how it will turn out since the epic failed vote on the economic emergency package in september of 2008. he said teetering on the edge could go either way. no indication. that's kind of on this precipice of where we've been for a while, at least since yesterday. now into friday afternoon. we will watch the news as it happens. if there's movement on the into we'll bring it to you live. >> i've been very clear for many weeks. there was no wire tapping of

trump tower. that didn't happen. >> that was house intelligence committee chairman devon nunes. speaking to reporters a short while ago. he said paul manafort has volunteered to speak with his fanl panel as part of the ongoing investigation, whether russia meddled in the election. narm nunes has additional unmasking of names, he said he doesn't know how many were involved. the nsa is expected to respond today or early next week on the committee request on how many names were revealed in the intel report in the last half of 2016 and whether members of the trump and clinton teams were identified. the hearing scheduled on russia for tooled is now postponed. nunes says he's putting it off to make time for fbi director james comey and mike rogers to testify again. he says he wants more information from them that can only be addressed in a closed session. all this as democrats want an investigation into chairman nunes because he went to the white house and the press about his sur vile lance findings

before briefing his committee. some say he lost credibility to lead that probe into russia. here's house minority director nancy pe lossie. >> the director in chief created a scenario where he downed or the dharm of the committee was a willing stooge, being a stooge for the president of the united states, going to him, going to the speaker, and going to the press before he went to the ranking member of the committee. i think he has demonstrated very clearly there's no way there can be an impartial investigation under his leadership on that committee. >> chairman nunes is defending himself. listen to what he called shawn hannity last night. . it's clear that i would be concerned if i was the president. that's why i wanted him to negotiation and i felt like i had a duty and obligation to tell him. as you know he's been taking a lot of heat in the news media. there are things he should look at to see whether or not he thinks the collection was proper or not. >> last hour the ranking

democrat on the committee weighing in on how the information was obtained by the chairman and how he handled the whole thing. watch. >> i am concerned that the chair has been unwilling to rule out that the documents came, either from the white house or coordination with the white house. >> the events of this week are not encouraging. anyone watching them has very legitimate profound concerns about whether this congress, indeed, can do a credible investigation. >> mark, i want to go to you first. this is a lot to sift through. can you break down what is going with chairman nunes. >> first of all, chairman nunes calling him a stooge is ridiculous. should he have preefed the democrats on the committee first, yes. but he stood there and said there's no evidence to back up what donald frump said. doing cover for the democrats. why does it take chierm nunes to tell president trump what happened. he's president of the united states. the fbi director works for him.

director of national intelligence works for him. he should pick up the phone -- >> the fact he's under investigation. >> they work for him. if he wants to know what happened, did anyone wire tap trump tower, how did it happen, they have to tell him. he's the. the united states. the fact that he has to learn this information for chairman nunes is a really bad reflection on the people in the administration who are keeping information -- >> i assume that's why republicans want to see james comey and others back up on the hill. particularly, in closed session, so they can try and get at something that apparently they must have not gotten before. >> what chierm nunes has revealed is not -- chairman nunes is not backing up what donald trump said. there was intelligence collection on foreign targets. peter king fox this morning and say be it was intercept of foreigner to foreigner talking about their conversations with people in the trump administration. this is not apparently collection of people that have been listening to a foreign

intelligence target talking to trump officials, it's two foreign targets talking to each other. this doesn't back up what donald trump says. this information was then disseminated, obama administration took, this unmasked the names of americans, if you're an american and your name is mentioned in a foreign intercept it's supposed to be minimized. officials can ask now that information that name to be revealed. but then they disseminated it widely, lowered the classification level. >> some politicians on that list. >> with the goal of getting it to leak. >> are you working off the premise that he, nunes, as he said, he had an obligation to take this directly to the white house to the president? i know gillian is going to disagree. is that where are you? >> i think that he should have told the democrats on the committee, done three things at once. told democrats on the committee what he found. gone to the -- he did it publicly, didn't quietly go to trump, he went to the press and said i found this information. he didn't reveal sources and methods. and went to the president and toll him. >> gillian. >> >> this more than a process foul. this is an i like to kind of

strip politics out of interest where can i on the national security issues. this is a matter of congressional committee that's actively investigating the president and his administration. so it's not a matter of i had an obligation, a member of congress, to the share this information with the president. you had an obligation to not communicate with the president at this time. that's what i mean. it's more than a process foul. he went above and beyond to reach out to the president. and marc you make a good point, where's the fbi, where is the intelligence community keeping the president up to speed. that doesn't make what chierm nunes said. >> he's telling the presidentior ee wrong. >> doesn't matter. that's politics. >> whether it supports or doesn't support the president. he should not be communicating directly with him on the investigation while it's going on. >> who are you? >> every time i think i have a handle on this story something else happens. our fox news' james rosen said there's a bombshell smoking gun

coming. that came out this morning. i'm sitting here waiting, well, what is the next tentacle that's going to come out. what does some one else know that i don't. and i've said it from the beginning, not that i don't think president obama it's beneath him to do this. but i need concrete evidence than it was, quote, incidentally collected information on members of trump's transition team. >> incidental. >> not unmasking the name. >> no, incidentally collecting the information. >> what's interesting, just quickly, about this is that some critics of the republicans are comparing it to loretta lynch on the plane with bill clinton when hillary clinton was being investigated. i see you nodding. is that a leap? >> they weren't upset about at the time. >> fair, fair. [ laughing ] >> a little hypocrisy. that was fine but it's not okay for him to go to the president. >> interesting. let's break in with this. speaker paul ryan arriving at the white house moments ago. got a little shaky camera there

as we try to grab the optics on this one. we think that this -- going to get wild, i can't control it, people. when the speaker of the house goes to see the president at the white house, when all that's going on right now on the house floor with repealing and replacing obamacare, and the closeness, remember our producer said, teepterring on the edge, don't know which way it's going to go. the closeness of this. when the speaker of houts shows up at the white house -- speaker of the house shows up at the white house. if he emerges from the wlous and has anything to say we're at the red quay with our reporters and cameras to ask good questions. this could get really interesting, more so in the next couple of minutes. and also, this, president trump is warning republicans holdouts he will be watching who's request him on the healthcare bill and who's against him. is a loyalty test the best strategy? the senate top democrat chuck schumer, we never see him, megan, is voiing to filibuster

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awaiting a vote in the house on the gop bill to repeal and replace obamacare. right now, there's no indication which way it will go as president trump warns republicans he will be watching. a source telling fox news white house officials alerted lawmakers last night, mr. trump will take careful note of who's with him on the bill and who notes against it. alabama congressman bradley burn echoing that sentiment. watch. >> time to make a decision, gentlemen and ladies. time to make a decision. and this is one of those moments where you've got to say who you really are deep inside of you. are you for president trump and repealing and replacing obamacare or are you against president trump and you're

against repealing and replace owing bam a care? it's that simple. when you get down to making it that simple it's a pretty easy decision. >> it doesn't seem that simple. considering where we're at at this moment. [laughing] >> e ee like the sopranos, you're in the family or you're gone. >> it's being viewed as a threat. do threats work? >> they do. they do work. [laughing] i mean -- >> against congress? >> yeah. i if i was a republican i wouldn't want donald trump going into my district saying i wanted to repeal and replace obamacare and i had a bill to do it and this guy stopped me. >> interesting. . the question, does that mike rand paul, sanford, donald trump calling them out on twitter, he says i was trying to get things done but the freedom caucus stopped me. >> some people are in safe districts where they're very strong. and other people are in districts that trump won overwhelmingly in the last election and people wanted for them because they wanted unified

republican government and help donald trump enact his agenda. he can make the case my whole agenda is on the line. it's not just repeal and replace obamacare. then we can't do tax reform. then we can't do all of these other things you elected me to document i would be worried. >> the leg odom know. >> i want to -- lego-domino. >> if the executive branch tells the legislative branch when to vote, how to vote, and what it will be allowed to work on if the vote fails, is that a republic? >> my answer to that is this is a really interesting quandry or challenge to watch president trump grapple with. what we're really seeing is a whole new kind of test for him to pass. we know that he can put together unilaterally a compelling agenda and get people onboard with it. he can issue executive orders to get things done. we know he can be heavy handed as the executive. but we haven't seen him do yet,

get down on his hand and knees in the sand box and work out these nitty-gritty issues with the congress. the real, this is being a politician, it's not just about leadership style. it's about how well you can actually play with the others. and we're seeing this, we're seeing this here. i think this is a really big test for him. >> what you're seeing on your screen is now we've got the house floor and the little screen and the white house in the big screen because right now, mark, we know that president trump is meeting with speaker paul ryan on this healthcare bill as we await this vote. just wish you were a fly on the wall. what is the conversation in there? >> i think they're doing whip counts and talking about who the president needs to call and make that threaten more explicit in a private phone call than he has in public. this is where the publisher hits the road. donald trump is shaking things up. it is unusual for a house

speaker to call off the vote then call it back on. that's what they elected trump to do, take them by the collar and say you're going to do it differently. >> historical moment. you have taught us so much. one of the things you talk about, was the states where medicaid issing? they need. that's got to be -- medicaid is what they need. you want to be on the side with the president. but if this messes with medicaid what do you do? >> so there are 15 red states donald trump won which took the medicaid expansion. if you are a congressman from one of those districts or senator from one of those states, if you cut off medicaid suddenly and repeal obamacare like the house free come caucus wants to do millions of people get pushed off healthcare. this is where the openoid crisis is happening. substance abuse is one of the biggest things, the opioid crisis. when is where the rubber meets the road on healthcare. >> all right. let's move on. they did not wait until the hearings were over.

senate democrats led by minority leader chuck schumer void to fill i burnter judge neil gorsuch's supreme court nomination. that signaled an imminent partisan showdown that could change the way the senate confirms nominees for the highest court. batch. >> to my republicans friends who think if judge gorsuch fails to reach 60 votes we ought to change the rule. if he can't earn 60 votes a bar met by each of president obama's nominees, and george bush's last two nominees, the answer isn't to change the rules, it's to change the nominee. >> senator lindsey graham who sits on the judiciary committee said he will do whatever it takes to get judge gorsuch confirmed even if it means going nuclear. earlier the south carolina republican reminded democrats it was actually them, it was them, who changed the senate rules under president obama.

>> the democrats changed the rules in 2013 to jam the circuit court with a bunch of obama nominees disallowing republicans to have any input. if they filibuster this man, we will have no other option but to change the rules f we don't that means this president trump can't make a selection to the supreme court and i won't allow that to happen. >> on the rare occasion that we quote a guest, i kind of want to do this first. you were talking about democrats not being interested in bipartisanship. this is something that you wrote about in the "washington post." so i want to put it up on the screen. this is just a few days ago. here it is. so, they want to destroy trump, conservatives should be thrilled by this. schumer is not only pushing trump on the right but also helping republicans consolidate and grow their congressional majority. by further alienating once reliably democrats blue collar voters who abandoned the party in the last election.

if republicans don't blow the opportunity the results will be legislation that is more conservative. quoting the man sitting next to me, as i mentioned before, educates us all the time. >> thank you. the chuck schumer is the republican's best friend. >> we see him a lot. >> he is the best thing that happened to the republican party. donald trump is a negotiator, not an ideologue. if chuck shumer had started out saying, i know donald trump, he's given me more money than any other senator in the united states senate, we agree on a lot of things. healthcare, trade, we agree on this and going to work together on the things we agree on, donald trump would have cut deals left, right and center. he's taking the resistance mode, opposing everything that donald trump does much it's pushing trump to the right because he only has to work with the republicans to get it done. and second, all those voters, there are 700 counties in america where voted for bay area rack obama twice, one-third

switched to trump in the last election. blue collar democrats. he's pushing them into the republican column. >> and the blue dogs as they're called, something that megan talks about. before we move on i want to get your thought on this nuclear option and what it really means politically. >> it's great. >> push gorsuch through? >> he's going to get confirmed no matter what the democrats do. when they fill burnter they're holding a gun to their own head and saying don't make me pull the trigger. >> wow. >> they have no negotiating position whatsoever. he is going to be -- they are the ones who did the nuclear option initially to pass all these federal judges. and can you imagine if last year, if the democrats had been in charge of the senate, and republicans tried to filibuster merritt garland, you think they wouldn't have gone nuclear? the nuclear option -- >> they wanted a bite at the apple. >> supreme court justice, only a matter of time when it happens. let them go ahead, filibuster, no one has ever fill burntered a

supreme court history of the country. >> i'm imagining that was a water gun. >> okay, move on. stunning numbers on illegal immigration, sfat advertise particulars from the justice department showed how bad it is. whether it's time to embrace president trump's policies, we'll talk about it.

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simultaneously as we are wont to do and bring you up to speed as developments are made. sandra? >> stunning new numbers on illegal immigration. justice department saying there were nearly 82,000 immigration arernlts made in 2014. that's one-half of all federal arrests that year. that's in 2014, five federal judicial districts along the u.s.-mexico border accounted for 40% of offenders sentenced to federal prison. meantime, los angeles mayor signed an executive director this week forbidding firefighters, harbor police, and airport police from cooperating with federal immigration agents. something lapd officers have been prohibited from doing for years. here's the mayor. >> in los angeles we don't separate children from their families because it's unhumane. in los angeles we don't demonize our hard working neighbors because they speak a different language or come from a different country. that's unamerican. >> as i was sharing that news i could see you reacting out of

the corner of my eyes. it really is an unbelievable story. >> it is. to say you're not going to cooperate in any way with federal authorities trying to take out criminal aliens, we have a terrible story of a rape in rockville, maryland. >> of a 14-year-old girl. >> a 14-year-old girl. everybody, whether you're for normalization or against normalization of illegal immigrants we should be for deporting criminal aliens. the idea that any city in america would not cooperate with the deportation of criminal aimens -- >> it seems so simple, megan, but cities are reacting like this. >> as the story, marc just brought up, is really disgusting and mor riffic, when you -- horrific. i don't agree where he get the chutzpah, as you said, that they don't have to stand by the hard stance on immigration. that the president won on. it got him elected, building the

wall was the first thing he said when he came down the trump is could laytor, to say los angeles is a different city, if i was a taxpayer there, i would be infuriated. i can start my own section of new york city where i don't pay taxes and i don't to have abide by normal laws. there are real life ramifications. talk to the family if you have an opinion on this. i hate the sort of theatrics of this. that i'm inhumane i think people who come here illegally should pay different consequences than people who come legally. >> let me repeat that, this is the justice department, half of all arrests made by federal authorities in 2014 were immigration related. even for some one like me who favors a pass forward, for people to be able to stay here, that's a horrific statistic. it's also a statistic that no country could su shain stain. if half of a nation's arrests

are folks who are made for people who are here illegally in the first place, that to me, that's really something to chew over. >> i think that's an entirely different issue than the process of legal immigration seeking legal refugee status in this country. i do think that, i always caution people to keep the two channels separate and distinct. on its own this is horrific. >> it's interesting, identify not found a lot of democrats who embrace the idea that if you're here illegally you've committed a crime. so when i hear you say that, it seems enlightening. when you look at the fact that statistic that you just mention exists how can you ignore the fact that was the only crime. then i guess, the question becomes are you interested in getting criminals or only interested in getting certain types of criminals? that's not to be heartless, it's just a question. >> arizona, new mexico, california and texas have 60.9% of the arrests, 0% in arizona. there is a special burden -- 20%

in arizona. there is a different perspective in border states. >> new york being one of them with canada. >> the four states i said are the combined almost 60.9% of arrests. i've always found it arrogant when people outside of border cities pontificate on what you should do with border arrests. >> all of those arrests took place under barack obama, he deported more people than all of the presidents in the 20th century combined. >> it wasn't publicized much. >> right. >> and the key, if you do want to deport illegals how do do you that. no one wants i.c.e. walking door-to-door and rounding up people on bus. >> you don't want a spotlight on that. what he was doing. >> as you hear on this couch and continue to be illegal immigration is a huge issue facing the country. top priority on the president's agenda. so, be sure to tune in to a special tucker carlson tonight. tucker host "catch and release,"

criminal illegals on u.s. soil. at 9:00 eastern on the fox news channel. >> the media can't get enough of the clintons apparently. chelsea clinton with a prestigious award, could be eyeing a future run for office. could the establishment be propping up her potential political prospects? more on that next.

>> by our count it's been almost 30 minutes since the president and house speaker paul ryan became huddled inside the white house. what you are watching on the right side is the white house press briefing. when sean spicer steps up, if we haven't heard from house speaker ryan coming out and emerging from his meeting on healthcare with the president. sean spicer will likely be first asked about that. that is the big news right now. they likely as our guest marc thesen has said, are trying to whip the votes. the president may be picking up the phone to call the holdouts. on the left side is capitol hill, debating that healthcare bill on the house floor right now. it is happening. and we will bring it to you as it makes news. >> trying to keep myself in

check for you, harris. [laughing] chelsea clinton at the ripe old age of 32 is set to re a lifetime impact work for humane tearian work. variety nag en magazine and lifetime television network honoring the former first daughter and five other women in new york city next month. they will be featured on the cover of the upcoming issue of the magazine, variety releasing the following statement. at the heart of new york city is a vibrant community of strong women in entertainment, media and politics whose commitment to if i lon to tlo pi is instrumental. okay. so, i know when i think of people who are fill an tlopic and added to our culture, i don't think about the women who serve overseas, all of the people who, you know, serve the homeless in new york city, i think chelsea clinton has made an impact, quote, in media.

this is going to prop her up for a political run. >> i've never asked you, have you ever met chelsea clinton? >> oh, yes. that's all i'll say. >> what is it like? >> i really -- [ laughing ]. i really, i mean, she's not my favorite person. this is why. i do think that she has gotten a complete free media pass her entire life and career. 37 years old, getting not a lifetime achievement award -- it's by lifetime and variety, impact award. >> the one thing i look forward to, marc back me up, if she runs for something she might have to answer some tough questions in an interview which i've never seen. i could think if i had to predict it would be like caroline kennedy when she tried to run for mayor and her interviews were horrible. and that race didn't happen. >> exactly. this is probably the most undeserved award since barack obama prize for not being george

w. bush. life time ingt pact award? >> lifetime the magazine not the span of life. >> i thought it was lifetime achievement award. >> in the company of blake lively, so good in goss ep girl, that it over -- gossip girl. >> and jessica chastain, "zero dpashg 30." >> it's an impact -- if i understand it's lifetime the television network and variety the magazine. as i understand the list, i'm familiar with it, it's kind of what they have done in their field. then the question becomes what is chelsea's field. i think that's a fair question. >> part of this, too, the media continues to prop her up. she's going to be on the cover of the magazine. i think she will ultimately run for something. and will the democratic party as a collective hold, which needs these democrats to come to the middle, are the clintons really the future of the party. i say this as a politician's daughter, i think the era of the

political scion is over and can really hurt you. i don't understand why she's continued to be propped up like some one -- >> i think we're giving a lot of credibility to something nobody understands. this award is odd. these are for women who have had a significant impact in entertainment and media. first of all. then to honor her for her contribution to alliance for healthier generation empowering kids for healthy habits. >> we will be right back. >> can you be somebody make sense of this? when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. youthat's why you drink ensure. sidelined. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.

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>> the fabulist joined us for an hour and we were better because of it, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me, i had a blast. >> guess what is next, "happening now" now. >> fox news alert as we are awaiting the daily white house press briefing that is set to start any minute. >> jenna: white house press secretary sean spicer will step to the podium less than 24 hours after president trump told republican lawmakers it is now or never when it comes to repealing and reprising obamacare. the stakes were high, we are covering the news "happening now." >> for seven and a half years, we have been promising the american people we will repeal and replace this broken law because it is collapsing on its failing families. >> jenna: republicans delivering on that promise, countdown for that vote today that could hurt or help the president's agenda.